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jinx...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2019, 3:10:38 AM6/13/19
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You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.

Oh boo hoo, Amber alerts annoy you. Dave, you are a selfish, self centered jerk.

Maybe you don't realize that there is lots of truck traffic all night. People going to work or heading home from work. Others at gas stations. Some even shop in the middle of the night.

Not to mention you (as do I) live near an international border.

Your selfish view on Amber Alerts does not surprise. After all, the sun rises and sets just for you Dave. I am happy the are fewer assholes like you than good caring people. You make me sick.

Dave Smith

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Jun 13, 2019, 9:20:29 AM6/13/19
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On 2019-06-13 3:10 a.m., Jinx...@gmail.com wrote:
> You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.

Brilliant.

Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 3:57:59 PM6/13/19
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Her post was spot on.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 13, 2019, 4:36:27 PM6/13/19
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:57:55 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Yes, he admitted it was brilliant :)

Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 4:41:26 PM6/13/19
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At least Dave handled the criticism well :)

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 13, 2019, 5:33:37 PM6/13/19
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:41:22 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:36:58 -0300, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:57:55 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:23:11 -0400, Dave Smith
>>><adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2019-06-13 3:10 a.m., Jinx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.
>>>>
>>>>Brilliant.
>>>
>>>Her post was spot on.
>>
>>Yes, he admitted it was brilliant :)
>
>At least Dave handled the criticism well :)

Yes, I was surprised :)

Dave Smith

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Jun 13, 2019, 5:40:07 PM6/13/19
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Yes it was brilliant when she wrote " I usually just bore me" .
Brilliant, and you are equally brilliant. I always know you had a
reading comprehension problem and like to fly off the handle over your
personal interpretation. That's why you are so happy to insist that 10
million people should be awakened in the middle of the night over an
incident hundreds of miles away because you are just going to have warm
fuzzy thoughts about the family and then roll over and go back to sleep
after having done absolutely nothing to help.

Dave Smith

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Jun 13, 2019, 5:42:15 PM6/13/19
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I am not surprised that there is one who had trouble composing her
thoughts and two idiots who can't read well enough to notice that.

Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 5:44:21 PM6/13/19
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:42:48 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-06-13 4:36 p.m., lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:57:55 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:23:11 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-06-13 3:10 a.m., Jinx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant.
>>>
>>> Her post was spot on.
>>
>> Yes, he admitted it was brilliant :)
>
>Yes it was brilliant when she wrote " I usually just bore me" .

You're the last one to complain about a typo. You can barely string a
sentence together.

<snipped a text from Dave with only one mistake, damn!>

Hank Rogers

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Jun 13, 2019, 6:15:14 PM6/13/19
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Druce, yoose forgot to piss on yoose McBiddy woman.

Yoose used to be on her ass constantly. What happened?

Popeye didn't score, but yoose did?





lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 13, 2019, 7:03:05 PM6/13/19
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:44:57 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-06-13 5:34 p.m., lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:41:22 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:36:58 -0300, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:57:55 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:23:11 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-06-13 3:10 a.m., Jinx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brilliant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her post was spot on.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he admitted it was brilliant :)
>>>
>>> At least Dave handled the criticism well :)
>>
>> Yes, I was surprised :)
>>
>
>
>I am not surprised that there is one who had trouble composing her
>thoughts and two idiots who can't read well enough to notice that.

We win Bruce! He's really agitated now.

Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 7:10:17 PM6/13/19
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Yes, we must have pressed a button. One of many.

Dave Smith

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Jun 13, 2019, 8:29:12 PM6/13/19
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Really? I don't think there is too much that either of you could do to
agitate me. I just look at your little sisterhood of stupidity and chuckle.


Megatron

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Jun 13, 2019, 11:18:47 PM6/13/19
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Everybody knew what they were doing. Except you, Dave.

-sw

Big Mama

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Jun 13, 2019, 11:20:30 PM6/13/19
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:42:48 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2019-06-13 4:36 p.m., lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:57:55 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:23:11 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-06-13 3:10 a.m., Jinx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> You know Dave I usually just bore me, but this time you pissed me off.
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant.
>>>
>>> Her post was spot on.
>>
>> Yes, he admitted it was brilliant :)
>
> Yes it was brilliant when she wrote...

Can we just skip to the <cymbal crash>?

-sw

A Moose in Love

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Jun 14, 2019, 2:56:06 PM6/14/19
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smith is one of the most filthy people i've come across on usenet. nuff said.

Dave Smith

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:11:38 PM6/14/19
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On 2019-06-14 2:55 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:

>
> smith is one of the most filthy people i've come across on usenet. nuff said.
>

Poor little is upset because he got trashed in another group when he was
trying to defend his Nazi SS ancestors and keeps trying to blame WW II
on Britain for declaring war on poor innocent uncle Adolph.

Bruce

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:16:29 PM6/14/19
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:14:20 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-06-14 2:55 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>
>>
>> smith is one of the most filthy people i've come across on usenet. nuff said.
>>
>
>Poor little is upset

"I am not surprised that there is one who had trouble composing her
thoughts" (Dave Smith)

A Moose in Love

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:19:00 PM6/14/19
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poor little you is upset because i called you out when you stated it was ok to rape and murder innocent people; women and children. that's why you're filth. you called it 'a little payback'. and you know shit about the waffen ss. all you know is what your liar of a father told you. the fraud that jumped into the resistance(more like collaborators). you refuse to educate yourself, and you condone a grandmother getting nailed to a barn door because she committed the crime of being an ethnic german.

Dave Smith

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:45:06 PM6/14/19
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On 2019-06-14 5:18 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 5:11:38 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-06-14 2:55 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> smith is one of the most filthy people i've come across on
>>> usenet. nuff said.
>>>
>>
>> Poor little is upset because he got trashed in another group when
>> he was trying to defend his Nazi SS ancestors and keeps trying to
>> blame WW II on Britain for declaring war on poor innocent uncle
>> Adolph.
>
> poor little you is upset because i called you out when you stated it
> was ok to rape and murder innocent people; women and children.
> that's why you're filth. you called it 'a little payback'.

I didn't say that it was okay. I just said that it was payback for the
atrocities that Germans committed when they violated their non
aggression treaty and invaded the Soviet Union, murdering millions of
civilians.


> and you
> know shit about the waffen ss. all you know is what your liar of a
> father told you.

No, I told you my father never talked much about the war. I know about
about the Waffen SS from what I have read. Some branches of the German
armed forces were not political, but the Waffen SS was the Nazi army.




>the fraud that jumped into the resistance(more like
> collaborators). you refuse to educate yourself, and you condone a
> grandmother getting nailed to a barn door because she committed the
> crime of being an ethnic german.

Feel free to provide evidence that I ever said that. However, there are
millions of examples of people having been murdered by Nazis because
they were Jews, Gypsies, political opponents or homosexuals.


A Moose in Love

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:49:51 PM6/14/19
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there is evidence that millions of people were murdered by the allies. because they were german; and even 70K french who were murdered. and you still refuse to educate yourself because you are afraid of the truth. you filthy shite accused my grandfather of helping people into the showers. you are filth for saying that. there is no other word that best describes you. my grandfather was in combat and had the wounds to show.

Bruce

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Jun 14, 2019, 5:52:19 PM6/14/19
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Like in every war, both sides committed atrocities. But only the
Germans organized an industrial scale extermination program for Jews,
gypsies, gays and retards. That's why the Germans get the atrocity
award.

Dave Smith

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Jun 14, 2019, 6:27:20 PM6/14/19
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Dave Smith

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Jun 14, 2019, 6:31:58 PM6/14/19
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> allies. because they were german.
Yes, but as you were told, that so called evidence was discredited
because the author was a Nazi sympathizer whose claims had been discredited.

and even 70K french who were
> murdered. and you still refuse to educate yourself because you are
> afraid of the truth. you filthy shite accused my grandfather of
> helping people into the showers. you are filth for saying that.
> there is no other word that best describes you. my grandfather was
> in combat and had the wounds to show.

Wasn't he the guy who was in the Waffen SS? Do you really want to try
to discredit me in this group with claims about your grandfather's
charitable work in the Waffen SS?


A Moose in Love

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Jun 15, 2019, 5:24:57 AM6/15/19
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only the allies wiped out countless civilians with their bombing raids on innocents. that's why the allies get the atrocity award.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 15, 2019, 5:33:05 AM6/15/19
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once again you twist the truth. the author of 'other losses' was discredited by
stephen ambrose. at first though, ambrose praised the book, then recanted. i also mentioned two other books which were not discredited by any notable scholars. i also know that US run death camps were in existence at the time.
you should really read up on things and then make up your mind. but you're a bigot and there is no chance of that happening.
>
> and even 70K french who were
> > murdered. and you still refuse to educate yourself because you are
> > afraid of the truth. you filthy shite accused my grandfather of
> > helping people into the showers. you are filth for saying that.
> > there is no other word that best describes you. my grandfather was
> > in combat and had the wounds to show.
>
> Wasn't he the guy who was in the Waffen SS? Do you really want to try
> to discredit me in this group with claims about your grandfather's
> charitable work in the Waffen SS?

how you twist the truth. that makes you a filthy non person.

Bruce

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Jun 15, 2019, 5:41:44 AM6/15/19
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:24:53 -0700 (PDT), A Moose in Love
The Germans bombed Rotterdam and London, didn't they?

My home town was badly bombed too. By the Americans. They thought they
were in Germany.

Dave Smith

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Jun 15, 2019, 6:43:55 AM6/15/19
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I twist the truth??? You said he was in the Waffen SS.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 15, 2019, 7:01:13 AM6/15/19
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you twisted the truth again. i never said he did charitable work. you did. you don't get it. i post that relatives of mine were in the waffen ss because i want people to know that i'm not embarrassed by that fact, or ashamed. the wss were just another fighting force. they were no worse than any of the allied combat units. they were probably trained harsher than others, but their goal was to kill the enemy. killing the enemy was also the goal of other combat units.
you're also afraid to read anything that opposes your viewpoint which is that the allies were justified in committing atrocities, but the enemy weren't. my view is that no one should commit atrocities.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 15, 2019, 7:15:17 AM6/15/19
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:24:53 -0700 (PDT), A Moose in Love
That's odd, could have sworn after the siren went and we retired to
the shelter, it was bombs that came down. There was also the
unexploded bomb which arrived in my grandmothers asparagus bed, or the
one which completely wiped out my husbands home in Portsmouth.

graham

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Jun 15, 2019, 9:12:49 AM6/15/19
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Or the Doodlebug that flew over our house every morning like clockwork.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 15, 2019, 10:45:57 AM6/15/19
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My grandmothers house was quite a distance from the dockyard, so no
excuse. There was also a bomb that hit the pub where my future inlaws
were celebrating a wedding, killed them all except my MIL (who
couldn't go because she had just had her youngest and it was too much
effort to lug that iron lung like thing one used for baby's instead of
a gas mask) Two of her brothers survived because they were away in the
RN.

http://www.halinaking.co.uk/Location/Yorkshire/Frames/History/1939%20World%20War%20II/WWII%20Gas%20Masks.htm

I had one of the Mickey Mouse ones but you put the whole baby in the
ones on the right.

Dave Smith

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Jun 15, 2019, 5:51:15 PM6/15/19
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On 2019-06-15 7:01 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 6:43:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-06-15 5:33 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 6:31:58 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2019-06-14 5:49 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't he the guy who was in the Waffen SS? Do you really want
>>>> to try to discredit me in this group with claims about your
>>>> grandfather's charitable work in the Waffen SS?
>>>
>>> how you twist the truth. that makes you a filthy non person.
>>>
>>
>> I twist the truth??? You said he was in the Waffen SS.
>
> you twisted the truth again. i never said he did charitable work.
> you did. you don't get it. i post that relatives of mine were in
> the waffen ss because i want people to know that i'm not embarrassed
> by that fact, or ashamed.

Holy shit.You didn't see any sarcasm in my suggestion that your relative
in the SS was doing charitable work. Most people would be embarrassed to
have people know they are that dense.

> the wss were just another fighting force.
> they were no worse than any of the allied combat units. they were
> probably trained harsher than others, but their goal was to kill the
> enemy. killing the enemy was also the goal of other combat units.
> you're also afraid to read anything that opposes your viewpoint which
> is that the allies were justified in committing atrocities, but the
> enemy weren't. my view is that no one should commit atrocities.
>

Germany's enemies included the Poles, the Russians, the Gypsies, Jews,
political opponents, and homosexuals. The Western Allies did round up
civilians and send them to work camps and extermination camps. The did
not subject civilians in occupied territories to forced labour. Yes,
there were civilian casualties in air raids, just as there were British
civilians killed in the Blitz.

The Allies had tried to avoid war by appeasing German as it broke on
clause of the Treaty of Versailles after another. Perhaps they should
have just sent letters to the editor to express outrage over German
aggression..... that was sarcasm.


Dave Smith

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Jun 15, 2019, 5:56:15 PM6/15/19
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According to Moosie, it is all Britain's fault for declaring war on poor
old Germany.

>

jmcquown

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Jun 15, 2019, 9:00:55 PM6/15/19
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Yep, he's back to fight WWII all over again.

Jill

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 11:15:30 AM6/16/19
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On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 5:51:15 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-06-15 7:01 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 6:43:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2019-06-15 5:33 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 6:31:58 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> On 2019-06-14 5:49 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Wasn't he the guy who was in the Waffen SS? Do you really want
> >>>> to try to discredit me in this group with claims about your
> >>>> grandfather's charitable work in the Waffen SS?
> >>>
> >>> how you twist the truth. that makes you a filthy non person.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I twist the truth??? You said he was in the Waffen SS.
> >
> > you twisted the truth again. i never said he did charitable work.
> > you did. you don't get it. i post that relatives of mine were in
> > the waffen ss because i want people to know that i'm not embarrassed
> > by that fact, or ashamed.
>
> Holy shit.You didn't see any sarcasm in my suggestion that your relative
> in the SS was doing charitable work. Most people would be embarrassed to
> have people know they are that dense.

of course i saw sarcasm. and it was as dishonest as shit. that's usual coming from you as usual. you used your sarcastic wit to suggest that i somehow thought that the waffen ss was this glorious outfit that was only there to help the needy. i never came close to suggesting that. how fucked up you are, you filthy bigot. and liar!


>
> > the wss were just another fighting force.
> > they were no worse than any of the allied combat units. they were
> > probably trained harsher than others, but their goal was to kill the
> > enemy. killing the enemy was also the goal of other combat units.
> > you're also afraid to read anything that opposes your viewpoint which
> > is that the allies were justified in committing atrocities, but the
> > enemy weren't. my view is that no one should commit atrocities.
> >
>
> Germany's enemies included the Poles, the Russians, the Gypsies, Jews,
> political opponents, and homosexuals. The Western Allies did round up
> civilians and send them to work camps and extermination camps. The did
> not subject civilians in occupied territories to forced labour. Yes,
> there were civilian casualties in air raids, just as there were British
> civilians killed in the Blitz.
>
> The Allies had tried to avoid war by appeasing German as it broke on
> clause of the Treaty of Versailles after another. Perhaps they should
> have just sent letters to the editor to express outrage over German
> aggression..... that was sarcasm.

you're just a bigot. from a long line of bigots. you sat on your daddy's knee and listened to his bullshit about valour, honour, etc. he's a filthy murderer of children since he was in the allied luftwaffe. burning and maiming the innocent. how courageous!

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 11:18:07 AM6/16/19
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just after the truth. and fighting with the brainwashed like yourself. and britain did start ww2 by foolishly declaring war on germany. hitler thought that britain would not be so stupid. he overestimated britains intelligence.

graham

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Jun 16, 2019, 1:31:21 PM6/16/19
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No! The Krauts did that by invading Poland, hardly an act of friendship!

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 2:30:03 PM6/16/19
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He whines about the Allies starting the war by declaring war on Germany.
Just for the record, the US stayed out of the conflict for more than
two years until Japan launched a sneak attack on the US fleet at Pearl
Harbor. Hitler then declared war in the US.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 2:56:30 PM6/16/19
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> Harbor. Hitler then declared war in th us

we all know when the us came into the war. what is your point? hitler made mistakes. but churchill's error in declaring war on germany was a colossal error. all of the young lads he gleefully sent to their deaths. so fucking brilliant.

graham

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Jun 16, 2019, 3:26:25 PM6/16/19
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Churchill DID NOT declare war on krautland!!!!!!!
YOU APPEAR TO BE AN EVIL NAZI!!

graham

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Jun 16, 2019, 3:35:20 PM6/16/19
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Just to emphasise, he was not PM when your lot invaded Czechoslovakia
and Poland. He was in charge when our soldiers liberated death camps though.

dsi1

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Jun 16, 2019, 3:56:59 PM6/16/19
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I had to Google "Doodlebug." Here's some Brits monkeying around with a pulse engine. That's ironic considering your troubles with doodlebugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raT_8B7kP38

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:15:00 PM6/16/19
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i know. the krauts, it's all their fault. i am turning myself into the firing squad tomorrow morning so that you can get justice.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:16:36 PM6/16/19
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he pressed for war always. and you didn't fight the war in order to liberate the death camps. the war was about empire. none of the allies gave a rat's ass about the jews.

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:20:51 PM6/16/19
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Uh oh, Graham has had too much sugary food again.

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:34:41 PM6/16/19
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The worst thing the Allies did, was the bombing of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki. That makes Pearl Harbour look like child's play. But Moose
is so German-centric that he doesn't even mention it.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:46:30 PM6/16/19
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i may be german-centric, but that's because of the bigotry out there. i know that the allies did japan, and they did japan hard. the firebombing of tokyo was pretty bad. and i don't downplay any atrocities committed by the germans. it's just that sides are taken, lines are drawn and it's the white knights of the allies vs. the dark force of the krauts. if you wish to read a good work of fiction which starts with the firebombing of tokyo, read 'to the white sea'. by james dicky.

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 4:56:35 PM6/16/19
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I think that the biggest atrocities committed in recent western
history are 1-Holocaust and 2-Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

9/11 and Pearl Harbour are nothing compared to those 2.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:03:44 PM6/16/19
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Once again, the point should be obvious. You claimed that Britain
started the war because it declared war on German, as if it had nothing
to do with Britain and its allies enforcing the terms of the treaty in
which they defeated Germany in the war that its had started. The US did
not declare war on Germany at that time. It did not declare on Germany
until after German had declared war on the US.

You are a little confused about Churchill declaring war on Germany.
Chamberlain was PM of Britain when that happened, and remained PM until
May of 1940.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:05:24 PM6/16/19
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here's a review; man vs. man, man vs. nature:
first, an excerpt:
“‘We are going to bring it to him,’ the Colonel said with satisfaction. A lot more than usual. ‘Fire. This is what you've got to look forward to. This is what he's got to look forward to.’ He leaned into it, from the heels, you could say. I sat and waited, looking straight ahead. ‘We're going to bring it to him.’ He looked down the rows of us, but I didn't watch him do it; all this was like before. ‘To the enemy, you know. Up yonder, friends. Up yonder to the north.’ He pointed at the ceiling, n ...more
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/350300.To_the_White_Sea

jmcquown

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:15:18 PM6/16/19
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Moosie's got a very convenient view of history. Hitler was a
frustrated, inconsequential Austrian artist who was born out of wedlock.
He wound up disease riddled (syphilis) and took the cowards way out by
committing suicide in a bunker. What's not to admire? (laugh)

Jill

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:18:05 PM6/16/19
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churchill pushed and pushed for war. and he got more than he bargained for. all of those boys killed because of his lust for glory. what a shame.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:19:01 PM6/16/19
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i don't admire hitler. and i don't admire churchill, and i don't admire all war mongers. i never said i did.

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:20:29 PM6/16/19
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:15:10 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
LOL @ out of wedlock.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:26:27 PM6/16/19
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Ouch....So I am not the only one who knew about the death camps?
Just wanted to make sure that my father didn't tell me lies about that.

lucreti...@fl.it

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:20:49 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
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You clearly don't know your history or you would find it as
frustrating as Graham.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:28:37 PM6/16/19
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:34:39 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
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When we first went to Japan we went by train from Shimonoseki to Tokyo
and passed close to Hiroshima. Even though I was a child who had seen
all the bombing in Plymouth, England, even I could tell that Hiroshima
was very different.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:36:16 PM6/16/19
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Maybe he pressed for war because he had read Hitler's rants in Mein
Kamph and knew what the guy was planning to do. They didn't know about
the death camps before the war, or even in the early stages, but they
did know about the Nazi actions against Jews and others.


A Moose in Love

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:39:56 PM6/16/19
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your beloved churchill sent all those good boys to their deaths. and for what?

jmcquown

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Gotta love Moosie's flippant comment: "hitler made mistakes." Ya
think?! In his mind Hitler was apparently just misunderstood.

Jill

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:41:59 PM6/16/19
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Moose may be misinformed and very German-biased, but that doesn't make
him a Nazi. People use that word way too often and too quickly. They
clearly don't know their history.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 5:44:39 PM6/16/19
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Churchill, who was not Prime Minister, pushed and pushed for war, but,
after Chamberlain ceded Czechoslovakia to German and threatened war if
Germany invaded Poland, and Hitler went ahead and invaded Poland????
And that was Churchill's fault??

jmcquown

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:03:34 PM6/16/19
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He's delusional. The war was about expanding *Hitler's* empire. Hitler
was the one who was running around invading countries. Czech, Polish
and Austrian. (Also tried to wage a war in Africa, IIRC.) France,
Italy... The plan was to jump across the pond to England. Who the hell
wouldn't get involved when they knew that's what he was going to
attempt? His own little version of totalitarian rule. Setting himself
up as Ceasar clearing a path. Guess what, that didn't work, either.
The UK are a stubborn bunch. They don't much like the idea of a fanatic
taking over their country.

Jill

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:05:12 PM6/16/19
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Your beloved Germany sent 6 million Jews and countless Gypsies,
intellectuals, political opponents Russians and others to their
deaths.... and for what?

graham

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:05:35 PM6/16/19
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and your hero murdered 6 million Jews, gypsies et al.
I suppose you believe the ovens at Auschwitz were used to bake bread.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:13:16 PM6/16/19
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When I was a kid my best friend was German. His father had been in the
Luftwaffe. His family was my second family and my son was named after
his father. When my son was 5 we went to visit my friend's parents. He
had recently seen Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and was
fascinated by the Nazis and talked about them a lot. I asked him not to
talk about Nazis when we were there and explained that they were German
and had suffered through the war.

We took my friend's mother to the art gallery and to lunch and on the
way home he suddenly blurted out " I wish I could have met Hitler". She
said "I met Hitler". His jaw dropped and he asked "What was he like?"
She replied "He was a stupid man who ruined our country".



Hank Rogers

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:13:43 PM6/16/19
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/16/2019 5:27 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:20:49 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:26:20 -0600, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-06-16 12:56 p.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:30:03 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2019-06-16 1:31 p.m., graham wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2019-06-16 9:18 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:00:55 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, he's back to fight WWII all over again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just after the truth.  and fighting with the brainwashed like
>>>>>>>> yourself.  and britain did start ww2 by foolishly declaring
>>>>>>>> war on
>>>>>>>> germany.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No! The Krauts did that by invading Poland, hardly an act of
>>>>>>> friendship!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He whines about the Allies starting the war by declaring war
>>>>>> on Germany.
>>>>>>     Just for the record, the US stayed out of the conflict for
>>>>>> more than
>>>>>> two years until Japan launched a sneak attack on the US fleet
>>>>>> at Pearl
>>>>>> Harbor.  Hitler then declared war in th us
>>>>>
>>>>> we all know when the us came into the war.  what is your
>>>>> point?  hitler made mistakes.  but churchill's error in
>>>>> declaring war on germany was a colossal error.  all of the
>>>>> young lads he gleefully sent to their deaths.  so fucking
>>>>> brilliant.
>>>>>
>>>> Churchill DID NOT declare war on krautland!!!!!!!
>>>> YOU APPEAR TO BE AN EVIL NAZI!!
>>>
>>> Uh oh, Graham has had too much sugary food again.
>>
>> You clearly don't know your history or you would find it as
>> frustrating as Graham.
>>
> Gotta love Moosie's flippant comment: "hitler made mistakes."  Ya
> think?!  In his mind Hitler was apparently just misunderstood.
>
> Jill

Are they working forward or backward? Is WWI next, or Korean war?


Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:15:14 PM6/16/19
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Oh Christ. Now you have done it. Now he will say that you said those
ovens were for bread.



graham

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:30:48 PM6/16/19
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On 2019-06-16 4:16 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>
> We took my friend's mother to the art gallery and to lunch and on the
> way home  he suddenly blurted out " I wish I could have met Hitler". She
> said "I met Hitler". His jaw dropped and he asked "What was he like?"
> She replied "He was a stupid man who ruined our country".
>
>
>
Populists inevitably do!

Bruce

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Jun 16, 2019, 6:50:36 PM6/16/19
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 18:03:29 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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Nor did any of the other countries. But it's a bit harder if the
Germans can just walk in because you border on them, without any water
in between.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 16, 2019, 7:42:41 PM6/16/19
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It was Kennedy who wrote While England Slept and it clearly showed how
little he knew about anything. In 1935 my father was asked to leave
his merchant navy job and go and train on HMS Hood in preparation for
war. Although Chamberlain was full of 'peace in our time' other
players knew it wasn't going to be and one should be prepared.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Jun 16, 2019, 7:46:49 PM6/16/19
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I have two friends who were young girls in Germany at the time. Moose
would be quite surprised to know what they have to say and it's
nothing flattering about Hitler, they knew bombings and starvation. I
don't understand Mooses attitude, I have nothing against my German
friends, nothing was their fault, anymore than mine.

Dave Smith

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Jun 16, 2019, 8:06:41 PM6/16/19
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On 2019-06-16 7:47 p.m., lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 18:16:01 -0400, Dave Smith

>> We took my friend's mother to the art gallery and to lunch and on the
>> way home he suddenly blurted out " I wish I could have met Hitler". She
>> said "I met Hitler". His jaw dropped and he asked "What was he like?"
>> She replied "He was a stupid man who ruined our country".
>>
>>
> I have two friends who were young girls in Germany at the time. Moose
> would be quite surprised to know what they have to say and it's
> nothing flattering about Hitler, they knew bombings and starvation. I
> don't understand Mooses attitude, I have nothing against my German
> friends, nothing was their fault, anymore than mine.

He keeps accusing me of being anti German. My life long friend was born
in Germany. His family was my second family. Part of my family roots are
German. He had ancestors who were in the Waffen SS and he says I
don't know about them, but I have read enough to
know that, while other branches of the German armed forces were
apolitical, the Waffen SS were Nazis. He keeps saying that I heard too
many lies from my father, but he has been listening to his Nazi relatives.


>

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 17, 2019, 5:58:34 AM6/17/19
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Yeah. That was totally Hitler's fault.

Cindy Hamilton

A Moose in Love

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Jun 17, 2019, 8:08:39 AM6/17/19
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they weren't all nazis you ill informed moron. and you are a bigot. you said in a shitty way that my grandfather helped 'them' to the showers. what you use to inform yourself with is much crap written by the victors.

Dave Smith

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Jun 17, 2019, 10:07:32 AM6/17/19
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The Waffen SS was the armed wing of the Nazi Party.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 17, 2019, 10:40:08 AM6/17/19
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it doesn't matter. you are still ill informed... my grandfather was in combat against the cccp. he shot over their heads so as not to kill anyone. i know this to be true because not only did he tell me, but i know him as a peaceful man. he had to give up farming rabbits because he got tired of killing them. you can still say that he helped 'them' into the showers, but that just makes you a filthy liar.
you also don't know that himmler declared that all ethnic germans of proper age and health; would have to go into the waffen ss. this decree was aimed at hungarian citizens who were of german background. so in your pea brain, all of those draftees became nazis overnight. just by being members of a non-criminal organization? is that an example of your um 'critical' thinking skills?
i don't know what kind of german friends you had, but they're ill informed as well as are many germans. you even mentioned that you had a german friend who you used to eat liverwurst with. liver wurst on rottenbrot. now i've never heard of rotten brot, so i wonder if you meant rotten bread? brot = bread. with you, anything is possible. you just make it up as you go along.
and the waffen ss was not considered a criminal organization at nuremburg for those who were drafted into the units.
and fyi...there was also an indian regiment that was an ss regiment. and for your information, the waffen ss were part of the wehrmacht. the regular army is referred to as the 'heer'. pronounced pretty much like hair.

Dave Smith

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Jun 17, 2019, 12:28:29 PM6/17/19
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On 2019-06-17 10:40 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:

>>> they weren't all nazis you ill informed moron. and you are a
>>> bigot. you said in a shitty way that my grandfather helped 'them'
>>> to the showers. what you use to inform yourself with is much
>>> crap written by the victors.
>>>
>>
>> The Waffen SS was the armed wing of the Nazi Party.
>
> it doesn't matter. you are still ill informed... my grandfather was
> in combat against the cccp. he shot over their heads so as not to
> kill anyone.

Shooting over people's heads allows the shooter to fire without exposing
himself to return fire. The fact remains that, if he was in the Waffen
SS, as you said, he was a member of a Nazi organization. You had to be a
Nazi to get into it.


> you also don't know that himmler declared that all ethnic
> germans of proper age and health; would have to go into the waffen
> ss. this decree was aimed at hungarian citizens who were of german
> background. so in your pea brain, all of those draftees became nazis
> overnight.

There was conscription into the Wehrmacht. The Waffen SS was manned by
volunteers. In the early days it was open only to ethnic Germans.

A Moose in Love

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Jun 17, 2019, 4:22:02 PM6/17/19
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On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:28:29 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-06-17 10:40 a.m., A Moose in Love wrote:
> > On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>> they weren't all nazis you ill informed moron. and you are a
> >>> bigot. you said in a shitty way that my grandfather helped 'them'
> >>> to the showers. what you use to inform yourself with is much
> >>> crap written by the victors.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Waffen SS was the armed wing of the Nazi Party.
> >
> > it doesn't matter. you are still ill informed... my grandfather was
> > in combat against the cccp. he shot over their heads so as not to
> > kill anyone.
>
> Shooting over people's heads allows the shooter to fire without exposing
> himself to return fire. The fact remains that, if he was in the Waffen
> SS, as you said, he was a member of a Nazi organization. You had to be a
> Nazi to get into it.
>

you're a liar.

>
> > you also don't know that himmler declared that all ethnic
> > germans of proper age and health; would have to go into the waffen
> > ss. this decree was aimed at hungarian citizens who were of german
> > background. so in your pea brain, all of those draftees became nazis
> > overnight.
>
> There was conscription into the Wehrmacht. The Waffen SS was manned by
> volunteers. In the early days it was open only to ethnic Germans.

the waffen ss was not manned by only volunteers. you haven't even bothered to check your work. you lie, and lie, and lie. you're a fraud as is your old man.

jmcquown

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Jun 18, 2019, 6:23:39 PM6/18/19
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I only mentioned it because I suspect Hitler himself had a problem with it.

Conveniently snipped was the fact Hitler had syphilis which eats away at
the brain. He was clearly mentally ill.

Jill

Bruce

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:23:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
Cheer up, McBiddy.

A Moose in Love

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Hitler was a nazi. He also loved dogs. Therefore all dog lovers are nazis.
Hitler was also mentally ill. Therefore all dog loving mentally ill people are nazis.

dsi1

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What's scary to me is the rise of nationalism in the US
and other countries around the world. People think that
it can't happen here but we have a leader that boldly
claims "America first!" and is making the weak and
powerless in our country the enemy and a threat. We have
regular folks feeling empowered and emboldened to declare
that this is "my" country, not "yours." We have the
intellectuals confident that it'll all blow over and sanity
will prevail - just like they did back in the 30's. People
think that "it can't happen here" but I have no reason why
they would think something like that.
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