OT: Nashville Shooter, A Tranny FREAK, Kills SIX :-(

[GM]

These 'transgender' FREAKS should be locked up in cages, and the keys thrown away... they are disgusting TRASH...

"Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender..."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65092102

Nashville school shooting: Six killed by 28-year-old shooter in Tennessee

Six people have been killed in a school shooting in the US city of Nashville, Tennessee.

Three of the victims were pupils aged nine or under at Covenant School, a privately run Christian school.

They were named by police as Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs and William Kinney.

The adults victims were employees and named as Cynthia Peak, 61, Katherine Koonce, 60, and Mike Hill, 61.

Covenant School has about 200 students, and teaches pupils from three years old up to around 12.

Ms Peak was a substitute teacher working at the school that day. Mr Hill was a janitor and Ms Koonce is described as the Head of School on Covenant's website.

Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender.

Hale was armed with three guns, including a semi-automatic rifle, and was shot dead by police.

Nashville Police Chief John Drake said the shooter had conducted surveillance, and that maps of the building showing entry and exit points were found at a nearby home.

Police received the first call about the incident at 10:13 local time on Monday morning.

Police said the suspect got in by firing through one of the school doors, which were all locked.

Hale fired shots on the ground floor before moving to the building's second floor, and was shot dead in a confrontation with police at 10:27. One officer was injured by broken glass during the operation.

A search of a nearby parked car had led officers to "firmly believe" that Hale was a former student of the school.

Police have spoken with the attacker's father during a search of a nearby home that is listed as the shooter's address.

Chief Drake said investigators there found a manifesto and "a map of how all of this was going to play out".

In the hours that followed the shooting, parents gathered at a nearby church to be reunited with their children. As buses of children arrived, they hung their heads and hands out of the windows to wave to their parents, according to the Tennessean newspaper..."

[Thomas]

Maybe it was denied a spot on the swim team.

[GM]

"It" shoulda been drowned in the toilet at birth, lol...

--
GM

[GM]

Here's a pic of the UGLI tranny creature, "it" is on the left, lol...


https://postimg.cc/fVbFhggF

--
GM

[Thomas]

Is that how you really think?

[GM]

"It's a joke, son..."

;-D

--
GM

[Thomas]

I know.
Any humor on the topic is just a joke.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/27/2023 6:48 PM, GM wrote:
> These 'transgender' FREAKS should be locked up in cages, and the keys thrown away... they are disgusting TRASH...
>
> "Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender..."
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65092102
>
> Nashville school shooting: Six killed by 28-year-old shooter in Tennessee
>
> Six people have been killed in a school shooting in the US city of Nashville, Tennessee.
>

Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
to kill?

Please show the statistics that make this such a big deal for that reason.

Many think all gay people should be locked up as trash. Do you agree
with that too?

[Bruce]

Bull's eye. Thank you.

[Dave Smith]

I always figured that the people who commit mass shootings are off their
rockers. IMO, trannies are messed up. It shouldn't be a big stretch for
them to snap and go nuts like that, but given the number of mass
shootings committed by "normal" people.... thousands, and the number
where the shooter was a tranny.... 1, they are actually
disproportionately underrepresented in that particular type of crime.

British studies have shown rising numbers of prisoners are identifying
as trans, and close to half of them have at least one conviction for sex
offenses.


We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female inmates.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:40:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
> shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
> to kill?
>

What they're making a big deal is that she's a female shooter which is
extremely rare. Then it was revealed she was transexual.

[Bruce]

So what? Your state gives weapons to every mental patient who wants
one. Of course sooner or later the perp will be a transgender. They're
just like normal people. 1 in every so many will start shooting
people. Enjoy!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

No, we don't give weapons to every mental patient who wants one. I was
simply stating how rare it is to have a female doing a mass shooting. That
she was transexual is after the fact.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:26:22 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

Enjoy the Wild West!

[Ed Pawlowski]

According to some of our Congressmen it is a God given right. Don't take
my word, check with Moses or Adam & Eve.

Jeff Duncan, SC
The Second Amendment protects our God given right to keep and bear arms,
and these rights shall not be infringed upon like many states have
attempted to do. I support Concealed Carry Reciprocity because I believe
law abiding citizens should be able to exercise their rights across the
country,

[Bruce]

To me and to most people from the western world, that kind of thinking
sounds like it's coming from around the year 1840 or thereabouts.

[dsi1]

My wife was on the high school swim team when her family moved to Hawaii. The trans-gendered kids kind of freaked her out when they changed in the girl's locker room. OTOH, da Hawaiians will take it all in stride as will the Pacific islanders and Asians. The uproar on the mainland seems overblown from the middle of nowhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evox4sNgoCw

[Bruce]

Yeah right, ignorant Mr Asia. Chinese transgenders are having a ball!

[dsi1]

Point taken. They're commies so there's that...

[lucr...@florence.it]

My thoughts are with all the kids affected. The ones who witnessed
it, the siblings, the parents and teachers. It is time the USA took
control of the NRA!

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:17:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:40:51?PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
>> shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
>> to kill?
>>
>What they're making a big deal is that she's a female shooter which is
>extremely rare. Then it was revealed she was transexual.

What she was doesn't affect me, I think of all the lives affected by
her actions and the fact that someone like her could get their hands
on lethal weapons so readily.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:26:22 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 11:19:46?PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:17:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>

>> >On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:40:51?PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
>> >> shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
>> >> to kill?
>> >>
>> >What they're making a big deal is that she's a female shooter which is
>> >extremely rare. Then it was revealed she was transexual.
>> >
>> So what? Your state gives weapons to every mental patient who wants
>> one. Of course sooner or later the perp will be a transgender. They're
>> just like normal people. 1 in every so many will start shooting
>> people. Enjoy!
>>
>No, we don't give weapons to every mental patient who wants one. I was
>simply stating how rare it is to have a female doing a mass shooting. That
>she was transexual is after the fact.

Rare or not, I don't suppose that makes it easier for the parents et
al.

[Gary]

Well he/she's dead now. Problem solved.

[Gary]

McDonald's is destroying the earth, not mass shooters.

[Dave Smith]

So... it is not really a female shooter. It's just another messed up
person.

[Gary]

A male transexual is NOT a "her." Just some messed up guy.
Also, regulate all you want, you'll never get rid of lethal weapons.

[f...@sdf.org]

On 2023-03-27, GM <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Christian school, eh?

I wonder how many pedophiles are on their staff.

--
SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

That which does not kill you makes you stranger.
-- Trevor Goodchild - AEon Flux

[Graham]

Born female wanting to become a man.

[Graham]

Such tragedies are accepted by the US population as an acceptable price
to pay for the 2nd amendment.

[f...@sdf.org]

On 2023-03-28, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> The uproar on the mainland seems overblown from the middle of nowhere.

It's manufactured outrage from a very loud minority. Normal people are
too busy happily going about living their lives to care about the personal
choices others make.

[Dave Smith]

I was unable to find any site that confirmed male to female or vice
versa, only one that said the preferred pronouns were he/him.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-28 10:03 a.m., f...@sdf.org wrote:
> On 2023-03-28, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> The uproar on the mainland seems overblown from the middle of nowhere.
>
> It's manufactured outrage from a very loud minority. Normal people are
> too busy happily going about living their lives to care about the personal
> choices others make.
>

Manufactured outrage from a very loud minority???? The public who are
outraged over yet another mass killing at an elementary school?? Why on
Earth would anyone not be outraged?

[Graham]

131 mass shootings in 86 days. Way to go, USA!!!

[f...@sdf.org]

I trimmed too much quoted material out. Most of the current manufactured
outrage lately is whatever gets stuffed under the "woke" umbrella today.
LGBTQIA+ people, American citizens mind you, are literally under attack
in this rapidly becoming a third world shithole country, it is unsafe for
them to be in many places. This is largely due to all the outrage porn in
wingnut media, state legislatures, and US congress.

That's what I was referring to, people being irrationally angry about
things which actually should not concern them at all.

Dodging bullets in school is a rite of passage these days, like freshman
year initiation pranks were back in the day. It happens so much I'm numb
to it. All one can do is prepare for it to happen and teach others how
to also. My wife and I have taken several Active Shooter Survival courses
done by our local PD and passed as much of as possible of it on to our
family.

[Dave Smith]

We're Number One
We're Number One
We're Number One

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

If you have no criminal past and no documented health problems anyone
can purchase a gun. There are literally, and I do mean literally, millions of
gun owners in the USA that you never hear a peep out of. They don't do
mass shootings, take hostages, nor hold up banks or armored cars. A good
many times you don't even know they have guns at their house.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Of course it doesn't. It doesn't make it easier for the shooters parents
either.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:52:33 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Well he/she's dead now. Problem solved.
>

Yes. The taxpayers money won't be wasted on having her examined
by numerous psychiatrists, furnishing her with a public defender,
housing her in jail for at least a year then going to trial. Being found
guilty and then housing her for the rest of her life.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

She was female, born Audrey Elizabeth Hale but preferred male pronouns
and dressed as male and changed her name to Aiden. Was she transitioning
with hormones and surgery? I don't have a clue.

[Dave Smith]

It's a pretty sad day when you become numb to mass shootings. Up here
they are still so rare that they still outrage people.
I kinda feel sorry for trans people. They have to try so hard to play
some sort of gender role and so many of them are prone to the
outrageously flamboyant that makes normal <?> people cringe. I don't
know why transexuality seems to be almost epidemic these days.

It's gotta be tough for men transitioning to women. They try so hard to
demonstrate feminine appearances but just can't pull it off and usually
just end up looking like freaks with weird long hair. You get guys in
their 40s growing their hair long... female long... way fast the age
when women give up on long hair and get it cut shorter.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:51:54 AM UTC-5, f...@sdf.org wrote:
>
> Christian school, eh?
>
> I wonder how many pedophiles are on their staff.
>

What a stupid thing to say. It was a small, private Christian school with
about 209 students with around 40 or so teachers. One of the students
killed was the pastors 9-year-old daughter.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 9:00:45 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>
> Such tragedies are accepted by the US population as an acceptable price
> to pay for the 2nd amendment.
>

Do you have any idea of what the Second Amendment entails other than the
right to own guns?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/28/2023 1:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> It's gotta be tough for men transitioning to women. They try so hard to
> demonstrate feminine appearances but just can't pull it off and usually
> just end up looking like freaks with weird long hair.  You get guys in
> their 40s growing their hair long... female long... way fast the age
> when women give up on long hair and get it cut shorter.
>

Some time back there was an article from a news magazine and publish on
the web. They showed some before and after photos of both directions.
Now these may have been a rarity but they photos of before and after,
you'd not be able to tell.

On TV not long ago a woman had a nice beard and mustache. Not a very
big person but if you saw him/her you'd think male with no hesitation.

[Michael Trew]

On 3/27/2023 23:40, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 6:48 PM, GM wrote:
>> These 'transgender' FREAKS should be locked up in cages, and the keys
>> thrown away... they are disgusting TRASH...
>>
>> "Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who
>> identified as transgender..."
>

> Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
> shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely to
> kill?

I would have to speculate not. If you look at statistics, it's usually
mentally ill male incel-types who do these kind of random killings and
hate crime. This is an odd case, for sure.

I imagine this student felt some level of hatred toward the school, who
likely didn't accept the "trans-gender" student. "Yeah, blow off
people's heads, that will teach them..." I'm not sure what point was
proven to target innocent people or children at a school.

In all seriousness, mental illness knows no bounds; no one religion,
political affiliation, etc. "Trans-gender" is irrelevant here, but I
agree that the shooter (did she survive?) needs to be locked up...
there's no reforming the person once they've gone this far -- now a
menace to society.

[Michael Trew]

On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
> time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female inmates.

I've never heard of that; do you have a source? It sounds like that
person(s) was trying to avoid being in a rougher male prison. If what
you are saying is true... well, if that isn't a wake-up call for those
who believe that trans-gender "women" can compete in sports, share
locker rooms, etc... I don't know what would be. I don't care what you
"identify" as, your gender is in your physical characteristics.

[Michael Trew]

On 3/28/2023 9:51, f...@sdf.org wrote:
> On 2023-03-27, GM<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Christian school, eh?
>
> I wonder how many pedophiles are on their staff.

You seem to be confusing "Christian" and "Catholic". Either way, this
can be viewed as a hate crime, so this isn't a good look for you.

[Bruce]

Go Gary!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:30:37 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

You have by far the highest number of homicides per capita in the
western world. You must be doing something wrong.

[Bruce]

It's easy to talk when you don't know anything about a topic. Look at
me. First I became an expert on the US and THEN I started having
opinions about it. Not the other way around.

[S Viemeister]

There was a case like that in Scotland fairly recently. A male rapist
who self-identified as female was sent to Scotland's only female prison.
There was a major outcry, and he's now in a more appropriate facility.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:30:37 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

Don't you have a day in the year when retards get a 50% discount on
assault rifles? Retard Day?

[Bruce]

Team USA! Team USA! Team USA! Team USA!

[Bruce]

The right to eat discounted hamburgers?

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:25:54 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
>> time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female inmates.
>
>I've never heard of that; do you have a source?

I heard or read a similar story. Don't remember where. A rapist
claimed to be a woman, was transferred to the women's prison and raped
one of the female inmates.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:40:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 3/27/2023 6:48 PM, GM wrote:
>> These 'transgender' FREAKS should be locked up in cages, and the keys thrown away... they are disgusting TRASH...
>>
>> "Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender..."
>>

>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65092102
>>
>> Nashville school shooting: Six killed by 28-year-old shooter in Tennessee
>>
>> Six people have been killed in a school shooting in the US city of Nashville, Tennessee.
>>
>

>Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
>shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
>to kill?

It's a great opportunity for bigots like Dave Smith to go on an
anti-transgender rant.

If a Dave Smith commits a murder, is that a reason to mistrust all
Dave Smiths?

[Bruce]

The Christian brethren have had their share of cases too. It happens
any time creeps have power over children.

[Graham]

Of course. It must be the most quoted and analysed of your entire
constitution.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Wrong again, bozo. It's El Salvador that has the highest rate of homicides
per capita. But don't give up, you're bound to be right about something soon.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:43:22 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Don't you have a day in the year when retards get a 50% discount on
> assault rifles? Retard Day?
>

No, that discount day is only for Dutch immigrants living in Australia.
The rest of us have to undergo a background check and still have to
pay full price,

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Ignorance at its' finest. Thanks for proving me right.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Without running off and looking it up online, tell me what the Second Amendment
means. Be honest, don't go search it out and come back and tell me.

I will give you a small hint; it goes back to Roman times.

Remember, tell me what it is without researching it online.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:30:37 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >If you have no criminal past and no documented health problems anyone
>> >can purchase a gun. There are literally, and I do mean literally, millions of
>> >gun owners in the USA that you never hear a peep out of. They don't do
>> >mass shootings, take hostages, nor hold up banks or armored cars. A good
>> >many times you don't even know they have guns at their house.
>> >
>> You have by far the highest number of homicides per capita in the
>> western world. You must be doing something wrong.
>>
>Wrong again, bozo. It's El Salvador that has the highest rate of homicides
>per capita. But don't give up, you're bound to be right about something soon.

El Salvador's part of the western world now? :)

[Bruce]

A shame. It seemed like a great idea for a red state.

[jmcquown]

If the person has not undergone gender change surgery, i.e. still has a
penis, no way should they be sent to a female prison.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I was surprised that you said you had never heard of it so I Googled it.
There were so many results I am not going to bother linking any of them.
I am not going to waste my time if you are going to stick your head in
the sand.

[Dave Smith]

For some reason, a lof of people can quote that one pretty accurately
and be determines to protect it and yet be unaware of most of the rest
of the constitution and consider the courts that uphold them as rotten
communist lefties.

Personally, I question their interprtion of wording because to "bear
arms" used to mean to belong to a militia, and the preamble talks about
the importance of a well regulated militia.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-28, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> It's a pretty sad day when you become numb to mass shootings. Up here
> they are still so rare that they still outrage people.
> I kinda feel sorry for trans people. They have to try so hard to play
> some sort of gender role and so many of them are prone to the
> outrageously flamboyant that makes normal <?> people cringe. I don't
> know why transexuality seems to be almost epidemic these days.

Because we don't force them to be something they're not anymore.

Just like left-handed people. It's no longer a sign of the devil.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Nor should they be considered female or get to dictate (no pun intended
;-) what pronouns we can use for them. Maybe they need to learn that
if they are going to use their dicks to commit sex crimes they will be
serving time with the people who have dicks.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-28 4:45 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

[Cindy Hamilton]

About 1% of the population worlwide appears to be pedophiles. That
makes it 78 million people, regardless of religious orientation.

It's possible that pedophiles might choose professions or hobbies
that bring them into frequent contact with children.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

On 3/28/2023 2:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 1:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> It's gotta be tough for men transitioning to women. They try so hard
>> to demonstrate feminine appearances but just can't pull it off and
>> usually just end up looking like freaks with weird long hair.  You get
>> guys in their 40s growing their hair long... female long... way fast
>> the age when women give up on long hair and get it cut shorter.
>>
>
>
> Some time back there was an article from a news magazine and publish on
> the web. They showed some before and after photos of both directions.
> Now these may have been a rarity but they photos of before and after,
> you'd not be able to tell.
>
> On TV not long ago a woman had a nice beard and mustache.  Not a very
> big person but if you saw him/her you'd think male with no hesitation

I recently read the *appearance* of a transgender person (whether or not
they ever have sex reassignment surgery) depends on how young they start
taking hormones specific to the sex they identify with.

For example, a boy who feels he should have been born female must start
taking estrogen supplments, etc. prior to puberty to inhibit the
development of male characteristics such as an adams apple and to
prevent beard growth and to encourage breast development. Conversely, a
girl who feels she should have been born a boy would take testosterone
supplements, etc. to stop the development of breasts, menstruation,
allow beard growth, etc. If those things don't happen early on, the
trans person will not necessarily ever truly look like the gender they
feel they should have been.

Jill

[GM]

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:40:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 6:48 PM, GM wrote:
> > These 'transgender' FREAKS should be locked up in cages, and the keys thrown away... they are disgusting TRASH...
> >
> > "Police named the suspect as a 28-year-old woman, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender..."
> >
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65092102
> >
> > Nashville school shooting: Six killed by 28-year-old shooter in Tennessee
> >
> > Six people have been killed in a school shooting in the US city of Nashville, Tennessee.
> >
> Interesting that people are making a big deal of a tranny doing the
> shooting. Have all the others been the same? Are trannies more likely
> to kill?
>

> Please show the statistics that make this such a big deal for that reason.
>
> Many think all gay people should be locked up as trash. Do you agree
> with that too?


Transgender claims are nonsense and as in this tragedy can be dangerous, Ed...

The Democrats promote this dangerous fraud... their "scientific" claims are sheer claptrappery - along the lines of Lysenkoism, Aryan "racial superiority", or human - induced " global warming "...

Before banning guns …ban any promotion of this dangerous and vile nonsense...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

I really have to wonder about the ethics of the research that would be
dealing with hormone treatments. If I understand the situation here and
some other jurisdictions, it is illegal to use some forms of
psychological and drug therapy that would straight people out but legal
to use therapies that would push them to where they think they want to be.

[GM]

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:25:56 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
> > time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female inmates.
>
> I've never heard of that; do you have a source? It sounds like that
> person(s) was trying to avoid being in a rougher male prison. If what
> you are saying is true... well, if that isn't a wake-up call for those
> who believe that trans-gender "women" can compete in sports, share
> locker rooms, etc... I don't know what would be. I don't care what you
> "identify" as, your gender is in your physical characteristics.

Those who claim to be "transgender" should be required to undergo pre - frontal lobotomies - and then placed in a "safe space", where they can bother *no* one...

--
GM

[Bruce]

I'm sure one of America's shooters in the past was gay. I therefore
suggest to lock Greg up before it goes wrong. Clearly, he's a time
bomb waiting to go off.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:24:30 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I really have to wonder about the ethics of the research that would be
>dealing with hormone treatments. If I understand the situation here and
>some other jurisdictions, it is illegal to use some forms of
>psychological and drug therapy that would straight people out but legal
>to use therapies that would push them to where they think they want to be.

I think it's best if ignorant bigots don't comment on such matters.

[jmcquown]

Straighten people out? Oh, you mean like drugs and shock therapy on
someone who is gay? WTF? Dave, I don't pretend to know what it would
be like if I felt from a very young age I should have been born a boy.

I'm not sitting in judgement of trans people who have felt uncomfortable
in their own skin all their lives. You speak of medical ethics but I
doubt the medical community is trying to force transitioning down
anyone's throats without extensive interviews and parental consent. BTW,
we're not talking about cross-dressers or drag queens who are not
necessarily transgender.

Jill

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/28/2023 2:43 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

> On 28/03/2023 19:25, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
>>> time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female
>>> inmates.
>>
>> I've never heard of that; do you have a source?  It sounds like that
>> person(s) was trying to avoid being in a rougher male prison.  If what
>> you are saying is true... well, if that isn't a wake-up call for those
>> who believe that trans-gender "women" can compete in sports, share
>> locker rooms, etc...  I don't know what would be.  I don't care what
>> you "identify" as, your gender is in your physical characteristics.
>

> There was a case like that in Scotland fairly recently. A male rapist
> who self-identified as female was sent to Scotland's only female prison.
> There was a major outcry, and he's now in a more appropriate facility.

I have to wonder though. Did he have a history of being "female" or did
he just pull off one of the greatest ruse of all time.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/28/2023 2:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 9:51, f...@sdf.org wrote:
>> On 2023-03-27, GM<gregorymorr...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Christian school, eh?
>>
>> I wonder how many pedophiles are on their staff.
>
> You seem to be confusing "Christian" and "Catholic".  Either way, this
> can be viewed as a hate crime, so this isn't a good look for you.

Either way, they both have had their share of pedophiles, and sex deviates.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/28/2023 2:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:30:37 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:11:30 AM UTC-5, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:17:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What they're making a big deal is that she's a female shooter which is
>>>> extremely rare. Then it was revealed she was transexual.
>>>>
>>> What she was doesn't affect me, I think of all the lives affected by
>>> her actions and the fact that someone like her could get their hands
>>> on lethal weapons so readily.

>>>
>> If you have no criminal past and no documented health problems anyone
>> can purchase a gun. There are literally, and I do mean literally, millions of
>> gun owners in the USA that you never hear a peep out of. They don't do
>> mass shootings, take hostages, nor hold up banks or armored cars. A good
>> many times you don't even know they have guns at their house.
>

> Don't you have a day in the year when retards get a 50% discount on
> assault rifles? Retard Day?

Our county just became a sanctuary county for guns. According to the
commissioner that announced it we have a God-given constitutional right
to own guns.

Evidently God thinks guns are OK. If they had them years ago, Judas
would have been taken out early on.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Correct, but in some states, soon here, there is no permit required or
safety training required to carry concealed.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/28/2023 5:13 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Because we don't force them to be something they're not anymore.
>
> Just like left-handed people. It's no longer a sign of the devil.
>

That's disappointing. I thought it made me and the devil special. I
guess no more. Damn.

[jmcquown]

I don't care about the pronouns people use; the criminal justice system
should use is common sense. If the convicted person has a penis they
don't belong in a woman's prison. Period, end of story.

It doesn't matter if they were merely arrested for shoplifting and would
never think of raping anyone. Physically and technically they are still
male, therefore do not belong in a woman's prison. It's a legal tactic
to try to make the sentence and landing place softer somehow. Doesn't work!

Jill

[Ed Pawlowski]

Can you prove it fraud? Gay people must be fraud too. That is not
normal either, only straight people should be out in public. Uganda may
have it right with the death penalty

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/21/africa/uganda-lgbtq-law-passes-intl/index.html

Do you agree?

[jmcquown]

On 3/28/2023 7:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 2:43 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 28/03/2023 19:25, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
>>>> time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female
>>>> inmates.
>>>
>>> I've never heard of that; do you have a source?  It sounds like that
>>> person(s) was trying to avoid being in a rougher male prison.

(snippage)

>>
>> There was a case like that in Scotland fairly recently. A male rapist
>> who self-identified as female was sent to Scotland's only female
>> prison. There was a major outcry, and he's now in a more appropriate
>> facility.
>
> I have to wonder though.  Did he have a history of being "female" or did
> he just pull off one of the greatest ruse of all time.

Sounds to me (without specific citations) he was using it as an excuse
to be put in a female prison to avoid perhaps more harsh locale. But it
wasn't really up to him, it was up to the judge/jury. Not a good idea.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I'm pretty darn sure public schools have had their fair share of all
sorts of things. When I was in the 9th grade we had a music teacher
(Mr. London) who didn't show up for class one day. Not that he ever did
much when he was there. One day another teacher came in and said it
would be a study hall. Mr. London had been arrested and was later
convicted of armed robbery and dealing cocaine. You don't have to be in
a Christian school nor have it be a sex scandal to have a teacher who
f'd up and all the students soon knew about it.

Jill

[GM]

Well, it's *Africa* fer chrissakes, lol...!!! They slaughter even Christians there...

Anyways, I salute your Governor Ron DeSantis, Ed, for taking the "moral high ground"... he's gonna run those
Pervy Pukes RIGHT outta Dodge:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/28/florida-gop-lgbtq-bills-00089099

From drag shows to pronouns: Florida GOP takes aim at LGBTQ issues
Florida Republicans say they’re protecting children.

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The GOP-controlled Florida Legislature last year approved a contentious law on gender
identity and sexual orientation in school — but this year it aims to go further.

Florida’s Republican-controlled Legislature is now moving ahead with a second round of proposals that are
alarming LGBTQ advocates who say they are being demonized to help GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis’ likely presidential
campaign. The bills include prohibiting pronouns in schools, banning children from drag shows and outlawing
gender-affirming care for transgender minors and expanding the state’s Parental Rights in Education law,
known throughout the country as “Don’t Say Gay...

The moves come after the DeSantis administration enacted similar policies or actions over the last year. During
the fall, two state medical boards approved rules that forbid trans minors from receiving gender-affirming care
such as hormone therapies or, in rare cases, surgery. And last December, the state’s liquor and business licensing
agencies investigated two separate holiday-themed drag performances out of concerns that young children
attended the events or the performances were “lewd.”..."

[Dave Smith]

It is not entirely impossible to get a carry permit here, but close to
it. There are some licensed trappers and people working in remote areas
are have permits to carry side arms and people like armored car guards
who are licensed to carry. Apparently there are a very small number of
people who have carry licenses, so few that most people don't even
realize they exist.


As for ordinary people.... for get it. If you are licensed to acquire
and own restricted firearms like hand guns you can get a transport
permit that allows you to transport handguns from your residence to a
recognized gun club. They have to be unloaded, trigger locked and in a
locked case, and ammunition has to be in another locked case. You
absolutely cannot carry a loaded handgun in public for personal protection.

[S Viemeister]

On 29/03/2023 01:17, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 7:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/28/2023 2:43 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 28/03/2023 19:25, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2023 0:07, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> We have had cases here of transexual convicts getting to serve their
>>>>> time in women's prisons and then sexually assaulting real female
>>>>> inmates.
>>>> I've never heard of that; do you have a source?  It sounds like that
>>>> person(s) was trying to avoid being in a rougher male prison.

>>> There was a case like that in Scotland fairly recently. A male rapist
>>> who self-identified as female was sent to Scotland's only female
>>> prison. There was a major outcry, and he's now in a more appropriate
>>> facility.
>> I have to wonder though.  Did he have a history of being "female" or
>> did he just pull off one of the greatest ruse of all time.
>
> Sounds to me (without specific citations) he was using it as an excuse
> to be put in a female prison to avoid perhaps more harsh locale.  But it
> wasn't really up to him, it was up to the judge/jury.  Not a good idea.
>

The whole thing was very political, rather than just a legal problem.
Scotland now has a new First Minister...

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, he'd kick your gay ass out of town. You are not wanted here.

Most of his Hitleresque laws are tied up in the courts.

Dictator DeSantis is making freedom by restricting the First Amendment.

Did I mention the Ethics Committee investigations?

Yes, you make me laugh as you glorify him and he considers you one of
the pervy pukes.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-28 7:55 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 5:17 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-03-28 4:45 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2023 2:43 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 28/03/2023 19:25, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>>> There was a case like that in Scotland fairly recently. A male
>>>> rapist who self-identified as female was sent to Scotland's only
>>>> female prison. There was a major outcry, and he's now in a more
>>>> appropriate facility.
>>>
>>>
>>> If the person has not undergone gender change surgery, i.e. still has
>>> a penis, no way should they be sent to a female prison.
>>
>> Nor should they be considered female or get to dictate (no pun
>> intended ;-)  what pronouns we can use for them.  Maybe they need to
>> learn that if they are going to use their dicks to commit sex crimes
>> they will be serving time with the people who have dicks.
>>
> I don't care about the pronouns people use; the criminal justice system
> should use is common sense.  If the convicted person has a penis they
> don't belong in a woman's prison.  Period, end of story.

I fully agree, but that's not the way it works here. Even convicted
rapists can identify as female and do their time in a women's prison.

>
> It doesn't matter if they were merely arrested for shoplifting and would
> never think of raping anyone.  Physically and technically they are still
> male, therefore do not belong in a woman's prison.  It's a legal tactic
> to try to make the sentence and landing place softer somehow.  Doesn't
> work!
>

That's the thing.... it does work.

[Bruce]

Also, Michael doesn't seem to realise that Catholics are Christians.
They were already Christians before Protestants had even been
invented.

[GM]

"Dear Ed (and everyone!):

I am eternally grateful for the wonderful neighbors I’ve had over years. We all benefit from being (and having) good neighbors. In some cases, they can be lifesavers. Are *you* the kind of neighbor *you’d* like to have?

Kindly,
GM..."

O:-)

--
GM

[S Viemeister]

When my son was in high school, his history teacher started a lesson by
asking all the Christians in the class to raise their hands. Very few
did so. Then he asked the Catholics to raise their hands - most of the
rest of the class raised theirs...
The teacher then explained to them that they, were, indeed, Christians.

[Bruce]

lol

[jmcquown]

LOL, Ed! It wasn't all that long ago I was asked not to call GM an
Nazi. Oh, but hey hey hey, GM is gay. This is all too stupid.

Jill

[jmcquown]

My father was a left-handed person. They tried to make him write with
his right hand. He didn't. He had some of the most beautiful
penmanship I ever saw. Almost looked like calligraphy.

Jill

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, I treat them with respect, same as I would like to be treated. We
may have different opinions on politics, we may have different
sexuality, but that does not matter.

I don't restrict the books they read, nor do I stop them from going to
night clubs, strip clubs, or Drag shows. That is their choice.

Sadly, the party that says they stand for less government is putting in
more controls of how we live our lives.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I don't understand how a gay person could support Governor DeSatan.

Another protest about books. "This Book Is Gay" was considered too
sexual for junior high. Had to laugh at the parents protesting it is
too explicit. Junior high starts in 7th grade. Do those parents have
any idea of the conversations in the schoolyard at 5th grade? They are
far more explicit than a book that explains it in a frank and truthful
manner.

Yes, better to get your sex education in the schoolyard because the kids
a grade higher than you know it all.

[Thomas Joseph]

GM wrote:
Thomas wrote:


> Maybe it was denied a spot on the swim team.


> "It" shoulda been drowned in the toilet at birth, lol...


Hah hah hah, real funny making fun of those less fortunate
than us. I am not a trainee but have been considering the
operation. I am not gay in any way. But it seems most of
the women who have attracted me in my life were lesbians.
So if I go tranny and they do a good job maybe I can get me
some of that lezzie meat that has been denied me lo these
many years.

Now on a serious note. It's funny and also sickening how every
time there is a killing, the anti gun people and others will use it
as ammo for political debates and so forth. However, I have
to admit that in this copy cat society of ours there could be
other trannies who never thought of killing anybody but are
now prepared to emulate the Nashville Tranny. Copy cat
killing is big in our media inspired society. But mostly I am
sick of people giving killings labels. I think that is unfair to
all, including the killers. A bunch of kids get killed in a school,
that is not a "school shooting", it's a shooting that just happens
to take place in a school. Like with road rage when it went all
trendy years back, everyone is walking around going, "Why? Why
all these killings on the road?" Even experts seems stymied. Part
of the job of any expert is to appear stymied at first. I remember
it was big in the newspapers, the letters to the editor section. Finally
one day someone wrote in with the most sensible answer of all
to road rage. The guy said, "Well, there's a lot of people on the road
these days." Same with school, there's a lot of kids in school these
days and many of them don't want to be there. It's day care for kids
and nothing more.