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cybercat

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Mar 13, 2008, 8:44:48 AM3/13/08
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<lett...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in.

lol


Sheldon

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Mar 13, 2008, 8:38:03 AM3/13/08
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letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>
> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the house
> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. �
>
> Any ideas?

PUSSY!


Van

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Mar 13, 2008, 9:24:23 AM3/13/08
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<lett...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse

> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in.

Regular, everyday mousetraps are the best. Use with peanut butter, properly
placed & you should have control of your mouse problem.


jmcquown

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Mar 13, 2008, 9:37:55 AM3/13/08
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LOL unless your um, cat, is afraid of mice. There was some construction
going on which apparently routed one into my apartment. It was dead on the
kitchen floor (no, this is NOT a commentary on my cooking). Persia refused
to go into the kitchen until I disposed of it. If she saw a live one she'd
probably hide in the closet!

Jill

Julie Bove

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Mar 13, 2008, 11:31:32 AM3/13/08
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<lett...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up going
> inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom. I know I should
> empty the crumbs, but they will likely still smell the toast oder and
> go inside. Once a mouse shits in the toaster, it's time to toss it in
> the garbage. I will not eat out of anything a mouse shit on. I do my
> best to keep all pots and pans in an enclosed all metal cabinet, but
> there is no room for the toaster in there, and I dont want to have to
> keep moving it around. What I need is something to cover the toaster
> right on the counter top. Of course it must be metal because of the
> heat. I dont have time in the morning to be fussing with waiting for
> it to cool, and all of that. Any ideas what might be sold for this?
>
> Also, has anyone ever seen a toaster that shuts? I have looked and
> seen nothing, but there could be something made?
> Personally, I think all of them should have little "doors" that close
> when not in use. I dont like the idea that mice, insects and even
> dust can get inside, where I put food. It's not sanitary. I realize
> that not everyone has the mouse problems I do, but toasters are still
> an invitation for insects and dust to enter. Why do these companies
> not make them shut?

I've seen quilted covers. Have not seen any recently but have not looked
for them. Probably not a good idea to put on a hot toaster and probably
would not keep a mouse out. We had mice when I lived in NY. I did what I
was told by a friend and moved anything they could get into to a high shelf
in the cupboard. This seemed to work and I never got them in my cupboards
at all. I bought two wooden bread boxes and I kept all bread, crackers,
etc. in there. I had a covered glass cake plate, a glass cookie jar and
glass candy jar with metal lid.

For the stuff that would not fit in the cupboards, I put it on a square card
table in the middle of the kitchen. The legs were metal and the mice could
not climb up them. It was also far enough away from the counter (where they
did go) that they could not seem to jump across to it. Worked for me!

Do you have a cat or three? That might help.


Nancy2

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:04:01 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 4:46 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in.  They always end up going
> inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom.  I know I should
> empty the crumbs, but they will likely still smell the toast oder and
> go inside.  Once a mouse shits in the toaster, it's time to toss it in
> the garbage.  I will not eat out of anything a mouse shit on.  I do my
> best to keep all pots and pans in an enclosed all metal cabinet, but
> there is no room for the toaster in there, and I dont want to have to
> keep moving it around.  What I need is something to cover the toaster
> right on the counter top.  Of course it must be metal because of the
> heat.  I dont have time in the morning to be fussing with waiting for
> it to cool, and all of that.  Any ideas what might be sold for this?
>
> Also, has anyone ever seen a toaster that shuts?  I have looked and
> seen nothing, but there could be something made?
> Personally, I think all of them should have little "doors" that close
> when not in use.  I dont like the idea that mice, insects and even
> dust can get inside, where I put food.  It's not sanitary.  I realize
> that not everyone has the mouse problems I do, but toasters are still
> an invitation for insects and dust to enter.  Why do these companies
> not make them shut?
>
> Thanks

Use a toaster oven instead - one with tight-fitting joints.

I can't imagine why you are still using a regular open-slotted
toaster, anyway. TOs are much more versatile.

Otherwise build yourself a regular tall wooden box out of 1/2" plywood
- with a lid with a hinge on it and a hook fastener - only a matter of
seconds to take the toaster out and put it back. Surely, you could
rearrange your morning schedule to eat, then dress, then leave, by
which time your toaster should be cool. OR, you could take your
finished wooden box to your local machine shop and have them make a
tin liner, like I had in my "bread drawer" - after-market insert,
custom made and cheap, if you don't care if it's galvanized tin.

There are websites that sell stainless steel bread drawer liners in
specific sizes - not cheap, but one would certainly work on a counter
top, if the lid were tight enough. You might have to use it on its
side for the toaster to fit in it, but if you have kitchen mice, that
shouldn't be a decor problem. I think www.stacksandstacks.com might
have some, but can't remember for sure - just Google.

Mice have collapsible skeletons, which is why they can get in and out
of the tiniest cracks and spaces.

N.

jmcquown

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:17:22 PM3/13/08
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Nancy2 wrote:
> On Mar 13, 4:46 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
>> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up going
>> inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom.
>> Thanks
>
> Use a toaster oven instead - one with tight-fitting joints.
>
> I can't imagine why you are still using a regular open-slotted
> toaster, anyway. TOs are much more versatile.
>
Not everyone has counter-space for even a small toaster oven. I know I
don't. (I couldn't be bothered with putting one away and taking it out
again every time I wanted toast; of course storage space is also an issue.)
I'd been given a toaster oven/broiler (Black & Decker, I think it was) as a
gift. Aside from the space issue, it was really only useful for things like
baking frozen french fries. As a "broiler" it sucked and it wasn't that
great at toasting bread, either!

Jill

Lou Decruss

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:36:04 PM3/13/08
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:04:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
<nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:

>I can't imagine why you are still using a regular open-slotted
>toaster, anyway. TOs are much more versatile.

TO's dry the whole slice out rather than just browning the outside.
Our's is on a shelf and easily accessible, but for toast we always use
the toaster. Even though we have to get it out of the cabinet.

Lou

Goomba38

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:36:12 PM3/13/08
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jmcquown wrote:

>> I can't imagine why you are still using a regular open-slotted
>> toaster, anyway. TOs are much more versatile.
>>
> Not everyone has counter-space for even a small toaster oven. I know I
> don't. (I couldn't be bothered with putting one away and taking it out
> again every time I wanted toast; of course storage space is also an
> issue.) I'd been given a toaster oven/broiler (Black & Decker, I think
> it was) as a gift. Aside from the space issue, it was really only
> useful for things like baking frozen french fries. As a "broiler" it
> sucked and it wasn't that great at toasting bread, either!
>
> Jill

I never needed nor wanted a toaster oven. I have a regular oven for
baking, and the toaster oven does a crappy job of toast, IMO. I can't
see where it is worth having? My toaster works great (both sides at
once, unlike many toaster ovens I've seen) and is small and compact.

For the OP (troll? I'm undecided) many bread crumbs(or seed toppings,
etc) when toasted black might be mistaken for something else....are you
SURE it is mice?

Sheldon

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:40:21 PM3/13/08
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Doesn't matter... the appliance is not the problem, it's the mice....
so long as there is food available mice will find it. You can bet
toaster crumbs is not the only food source for those mice.

My toaster gets cleaned periodically (shaken out) but it typically
contains crumbs, even right after cleaning there are always some
stubborn crumbs. I have dried cat food out 27/7 yet I see no mice or
rodent droppings. I'll see the occasional spider, I leave those be.
This week I have a few lady bugs (spring is on its way), I leave those
alone too.

You really need only one cat to deal with mice, I have six cats, mice
have no chance. When I first moved here my cats cornered a mouse
under my fridge, now that was a sight. I just watched, about an hour
passed and that mouse made a dash for freedom, didn't make 12 inches
before becoming an easy ground ball for Mooch.

Blinky the Shark

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:13:40 PM3/13/08
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letterman wrote:

> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse mouse
> proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up going inside the

> toaster for the crumbs on the bottom. I know I should empty the crumbs,
> but they will likely still smell the toast oder and go inside. Once a
> mouse shits in the toaster, it's time to toss it in the garbage. I will
> not eat out of anything a mouse shit on. I do my best to keep all pots
> and pans in an enclosed all metal cabinet, but there is no room for the
> toaster in there, and I dont want to have to keep moving it around. What
> I need is something to cover the toaster right on the counter top. Of
> course it must be metal because of the heat. I dont have time in the
> morning to be fussing with waiting for it to cool, and all of that. Any
> ideas what might be sold for this?

Disliking toaster-crum-dribbling on the countertop, mine sits in a loaf
pan that's about 3/4 inch larger on each side than the toaster. Toasters
vary greatly in size, and it wouldn't be exacly cosmetic, but one could
invert a pan over the top of the toaster. I don't know if rodentia could
push their way in between the toaster top and the inside of the inverted
pan. If so you could make things even less cosmetic by putting a heavir
object on top of the pan. Or perhaps you could put a baited mouse trap
there and start working on the rodent problem directly.


--
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notbob

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Mar 13, 2008, 2:56:06 PM3/13/08
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On 2008-03-13, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

>> course it must be metal because of the heat. I dont have time in the
>> morning to be fussing with waiting for it to cool, and all of that.

Then you don't have time to deal with your problem. Give up toast and make
biscuits or find a way to keep your toaster ON all the time. That'll keep
the little effers out.

nb

hahabogus

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Mar 13, 2008, 2:58:16 PM3/13/08
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notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote in
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When not in use put the toaster in the oven. Or put it in a large turkey
roaster with lid.

--

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A man in line at the bank kept falling over...when he got to a teller he
asked for his balance.

Blinky the Shark

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:16:36 PM3/13/08
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notbob wrote:

> On 2008-03-13, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

Blinky wrote nothing that you quoted.

Letterman wrote what you quoted and did not attribure.



>>> course it must be metal because of the heat. I dont have time in the
>>> morning to be fussing with waiting for it to cool, and all of that.
>
> Then you don't have time to deal with your problem. Give up toast and
> make biscuits or find a way to keep your toaster ON all the time. That'll
> keep the little effers out.
>
> nb

Blinky the Shark

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:18:04 PM3/13/08
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hahabogus wrote:

> When not in use put the toaster in the oven.

The perfect place to store a toaster - linguistically speaking - would
probably be a ... here it comes ... toaster oven. Yok! :)

notbob

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:29:17 PM3/13/08
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On 2008-03-13, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

> Blinky wrote nothing that you quoted.
>
> Letterman wrote what you quoted and did not attribure.

OMG!... I've made a mistake. Don't beat me, Massah! I promise I will never
do it again. (sob - boohoo - sniff)

There. Happy, now?

nb

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:41:31 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 5:46 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in.  They always end up going
> inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom.  I know I should
> empty the crumbs, but they will likely still smell the toast oder and
> go inside.  Once a mouse shits in the toaster, it's time to toss it in
> the garbage.  I will not eat out of anything a mouse shit on.  

You mean, if a mouse crapped in (for example) a frying pan you
wouldn't just wash it out and use it? I could see not using the
toaster again, because it can't be washed, but that last
sentence sounded pretty extreme.

I agreed with the person who recommended putting a pot over the
toaster. Cheap and effective.

Cindy Hamilton

Blinky the Shark

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Mar 13, 2008, 4:46:25 PM3/13/08
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notbob wrote:

Don't just tell me about the labor pains; show me the babies. ;)

notbob

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Mar 13, 2008, 3:52:55 PM3/13/08
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On 2008-03-13, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

> Don't just tell me about the labor pains; show me the babies. ;)

Sorry. The best I can do is shit a brick. Gotta a recipe for brick dust?

nb

cybercat

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Mar 13, 2008, 5:10:46 PM3/13/08
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"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
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You know he can address the mouse problem. They are MICE ffs.


Little Malice

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Mar 13, 2008, 6:45:22 PM3/13/08
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One time on Usenet, Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> said:
> letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> >
> > I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the house
> > mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. =EF=BF=BD
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> PUSSY!

Yup -- my kitties keep the mouses out of my houses...

--
Jani in WA

Julie Bove

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Mar 13, 2008, 6:07:54 PM3/13/08
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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I haven't had a toaster oven for many years. When I got my first apartment,
my parents gave me their old one. I used it a few times and finally got rid
of it. Took up too much room for the amount of times I used it. I don't
make a lot of toast either, but the toaster takes up less room and anything
I might make in the toaster oven can be made in the oven. Plus with three
people in the house, I need the size of the oven.


kilikini

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Mar 13, 2008, 7:14:28 PM3/13/08
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This thread has me lost. I wouldn't be able to live without a toaster oven.
I use mine a heck of a lot more than I use the microwave. My handy little
oven is used almost every day whether it's to toast, broil or roast. I love
it.

kili


jmcquown

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Mar 13, 2008, 6:25:55 PM3/13/08
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To each his/her own, kili! I rarely used my toaster oven. It took up a lot
of counter space and didn't do a great job when I did use it. I've had
absolutely no problem living without it :)

Jill

Julie Bove

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Mar 13, 2008, 6:43:00 PM3/13/08
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"kilikini" <kili...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> This thread has me lost. I wouldn't be able to live without a toaster
> oven. I use mine a heck of a lot more than I use the microwave. My handy
> little oven is used almost every day whether it's to toast, broil or
> roast. I love it.

What do you make in it? The only things I ever used mine for were Saltines
with applesauce and cinnamon on top for a snack, or open faced toasted
sandwiches.


Sheldon

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Mar 13, 2008, 7:37:31 PM3/13/08
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hahabogus wrote:
> notbob writes:

> > Blinky wrote:
>
> >>> course it must be metal because of the heat. �I dont have time in
> >>> the morning to be fussing with waiting for it to cool, and all of
> >>> that.
>
> > Then you don't have time to deal with your problem. �Give up toast and
> > make biscuits or find a way to keep your toaster ON all the time.
> > That'll keep the little effers out.
>
> When not in use put the toaster in the oven. Or put it in a large turkey
> roaster with lid.

Yeah, adn before you know it you roven will become a storae bin and
nver get used.

Lookit my toaster, no way/no how any meeces gonna get anywheres near
it and still breathe.. yoose only think she's asleep: http://i32.tinypic.com/wb2914.jpg

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kilikini

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Mar 13, 2008, 11:26:29 PM3/13/08
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I bake fish in it, I broil shellfish or porkchops, I reheat things, I roast
garlic, I bake cornish game hens, I bake casseroles, I make au gratin
potatoes, I bake a mini lasagna, I cook leftover pizza, macaroni &
cheese..........gosh........... I use my taoster oven constantly. My
husband didn't understand the need for a toaster oven initially either, but
when I convinced him that we needed it and he strted using it, he wouldn't
go without one, now. He uses the thing all the time! Toast, broil, bake or
roast...... it's a godsend. If you have a large family I can't see it
being used as often as we do, but since it's just the two of us, it's really
handy. We bought a $4 pyrex-style casserole dish that fits perfectly in the
toaster oven and with that I can make anything I want using much less energy
than a standard oven. :~)

kili


Julie Bove

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Mar 13, 2008, 10:44:44 PM3/13/08
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"kilikini" <kili...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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I can't see reheating anything in the toaster oven unless you want it crisp.
My microwave works just fine for reheating.

We don't do fish or shellfish or bake a mini anything, so I guess the oven
is what I need. But even when I was single and had no microwave, I never
used the toaster oven much.


Myrl Jeffcoat

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Mar 14, 2008, 12:13:13 AM3/14/08
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On Mar 13, 6:37 am, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:

> LOL unless your um, cat, is afraid of mice.  There was some construction
> going on which apparently routed one into my apartment.  It was dead on the
> kitchen floor (no, this is NOT a commentary on my cooking).  Persia refused
> to go into the kitchen until I disposed of it.  If she saw a live one she'd
> probably hide in the closet!
>
> Jill


I have a cat named Sybil. I "inherited" Sybil from my daughter, who
lives in Reno. It seems that Sybil had this reputation of being an
Amazon Warrior Cat, and would hunt down mice, other rodents, and
especially birds. My daughter's neighbor was a wild bird enthusiast,
and Sybil was causing a great deal of consternation to the neighbor.
Soon threats against Sybil's freedom to roam were on the increase.

So, my daughter drove Sybil to Sacramento, with the promise that Sybil
would take care of any mouse problem I had.

Alas, I think during the 144 mile drive, Sybil had an epiphany! That
cat has been here for 4 years now, and has never caught a thing. In
fact, I put her food bowl on the spa cover under the gazebo, so Kodi
Bear, my American Eskimo dog, wouldn't eat her food.

The cat lays out there next to the food bowl partially napping, and
the Blue Jays, and other birds come and eat out of the bowl, within a
foot of the cat's nose!

The only thing I would add to the suggestion of getting a cat - if you
wish for the cat to hunt: DON'T FEED THE CAT;-)

Myrl Jeffcoat

Blinky the Shark

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Mar 14, 2008, 1:28:38 AM3/14/08
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Janet Baraclough wrote:

> The message <pan.2008.03.13....@thurston.blinkynet.net> from
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> contains these words:

Blinky did write some words, but none of them were included here to
justify the attribution.



>> letterman wrote:
>
>> > I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
>> > mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up going
>> > inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom. I know I should
>> > empty the crumbs, but they will likely still smell the toast oder and
>> > go inside. Once a mouse shits in the toaster, it's time to toss it
>> > in the garbage. I will not eat out of anything a mouse shit on. I
>> > do my best to keep all pots and pans in an enclosed all metal
>> > cabinet, but there is no room for the toaster in there, and I dont
>> > want to have to keep moving it around. What I need is something to
>> > cover the toaster right on the counter top.
>

> You could invert an old fashioned metal breadbin
>
> www.jackandfriends.com/.../large/d_2295.jpg
>
> Janet

Kathleen

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Mar 14, 2008, 1:25:42 AM3/14/08
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Myrl Jeffcoat wrote:

My mom inherited Thai, my red-point siamese, when my husband turned out
to be horribly allergic to him.

Outside her kitchen window she had a tray-type bird feeder. And a
trellis covered with some sort of huge bushy vine. Thai regarded the
bird feeder as some sort of poultry buffet. He would lurk in the vine
above the feeder and ambush the unwary. He wasn't particularly
successful. For every time he brought down some luckless starling or
cardinal, or, on one memorable occasion, a squirrel that probably massed
half on Thai's own body weight, there'd be multiple misses - you'd see
him sail past the window, missing not only the intended target but the
entire feeder.

I used to think that maybe his depth perception was bad because his eyes
were a little crossed but from what I've read recently, the siamese
eye-brain connection is cross-wired and the squint allows them to see
normally. So maybe he was just a klutz, but you certainly couldn't
fault him for lack of effort. And he was free fed, so he certainly
wasn't being driven by hunger. Killing things was his hobby, and since
he never had to look for food, he had a lot of free time to dedicate to
his vocation.

kilikini

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Mar 14, 2008, 12:21:27 PM3/14/08
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I really enjoyed this story. LOL. You were so descriptive!

kili


Nancy Young

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Mar 14, 2008, 11:37:36 AM3/14/08
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"Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote

> My mom inherited Thai, my red-point siamese, when my husband turned out to
> be horribly allergic to him.

I had a red point siamese, too! What are the odds.

> half on Thai's own body weight, there'd be multiple misses - you'd see him
> sail past the window, missing not only the intended target but the entire
> feeder.

Hilarious. About as klutzy as every siamese I've ever owned.
Thanks for the funny story.

nancy


blake murphy

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Mar 14, 2008, 11:58:05 AM3/14/08
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Myrl Jeffcoat
<myrl_j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I have a cat named Sybil. I "inherited" Sybil from my daughter, who
>lives in Reno. It seems that Sybil had this reputation of being an
>Amazon Warrior Cat, and would hunt down mice, other rodents, and
>especially birds. My daughter's neighbor was a wild bird enthusiast,
>and Sybil was causing a great deal of consternation to the neighbor.
>Soon threats against Sybil's freedom to roam were on the increase.
>
>So, my daughter drove Sybil to Sacramento, with the promise that Sybil
>would take care of any mouse problem I had.
>
>Alas, I think during the 144 mile drive, Sybil had an epiphany! That
>cat has been here for 4 years now, and has never caught a thing.

too funny, myrl.

your pal,
blake

kilikini

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Mar 14, 2008, 1:15:05 PM3/14/08
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I've got a red point Meezer that's klutzy as all get out as well. Is is a
Siamese thing? She falls off the back of the couch, even. She mis-judges
her jumps to the top of the dresser and pulls everything off. We think it's
hilarious, but I believe her feelings get a tad hurt when we laugh. :~)

kili


Nancy Young

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Mar 14, 2008, 12:31:14 PM3/14/08
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"kilikini" <kili...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Hilarious. About as klutzy as every siamese I've ever owned.
>> Thanks for the funny story.

> I've got a red point Meezer that's klutzy as all get out as well. Is is a
> Siamese thing?

I've seen people say what great leapers siamese are. None that
I've ever met.

> She falls off the back of the couch, even.

Heh, yeah, it's pretty funny.

>She mis-judges her jumps to the top of the dresser and pulls everything
>off. We think it's hilarious, but I believe her feelings get a tad hurt
>when we laugh. :~)

I try not to let them see me laugh. They misjudge how far it takes
to jump. Hello, you're siamese, built like a boulder. Put some
muscle in those jumps.

nancy


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Virginia Tadrzynski

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Myrl Jeffcoat


Our four pound ginger kitty, 12 year old Chester, USED to catch mice. Then
FBS brought home four white mice in two cages as pets. He would take them
out and let them run around in their play balls and when the orange throw
pillow also known as the cat was asleep, he would plop a mouse on him and
let him roam. Chester often looked at them but never bothered them, he even
licked a few when he woke up and started grooming and a mouse got in the
way. Joey stated to all and sundry that Chester stopped mousing when we got
the white mice as all the ones he caught before were field mice so the cat
thought these were ghost mice coming back to haunt him. Chester hasn't
caught a mouse (and we still get field mice in) in over four years. The
little dudes have gone to mousie heaven and the cat still misses them,
looking at the shelf where the cages were and meows occassionally.
-ginny


Mark Thorson

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Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>
> The only thing I would add to the suggestion of getting a cat - if
> you wish for the cat to hunt: DON'T FEED THE CAT;-)

Nonsense. I always had food out for my cats, and
they were always great hunters. Being well-fed
doesn't stop a cat from hunting, if it's got the
instinct to do so.

Little Malice

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I have to agree. We have an auto-feed container of dry food for our
two cats, so they eat when and how much they want to. They still chase
and kill bugs, mice, etc. If only they'd go after the darn moles...

--
Jani in WA

Mark Thorson

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I had one of those. The first day, one of cats
apparently decided to see whether there was a
limit to how much food would come out. She just
kept plunging her paw into the food and pulling
out as much as would come out, letting the excess
pile up on the floor, until I stopped her.

hahabogus

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Little...@g33mail.com (Little Malice) wrote in news:frele7$gq19i_002
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> If only they'd go after the darn moles...
>

Are these KGB moles? Don't they ever give up?

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

A man in line at the bank kept falling over...when he got to a teller he
asked for his balance.

Lou Decruss

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:55:42 -0800, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
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Virginia didn't say that. She just didn't quote properly.

Lou

Dave Smith

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Mark Thorson wrote:

There is hunting and there is eating. Cats who are fed still hunt. Cats
who are not fed eat their prey. Hunting does indeed come naturally to
cats and they do it for sport. I have watched mother cats teaching
their kittens how to hunt. One of my cats used to catch mice and then
bring them to a walled sidewalk and bar the mouse's escape while she
encouraged the kittens to attack it.


cybercat

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"Little Malice" <Little...@g33mail.com> wrote

>
> I have to agree. We have an auto-feed container of dry food for our
> two cats, so they eat when and how much they want to. They still chase
> and kill bugs, mice, etc. If only they'd go after the darn moles...
>
Mine too, though they will not eat a mouse. Kind of good, since I would
rather find a whole mouse than part of one. I don't know what happened,
but since my cats killed two mice about four months apart in the kitchen,
I have found no further sign of mice.

My tuxedo cat not only hunts bugs but she dusts for me. :) I am not lying.
Boo eats cobwebs. She routinely patrols the house, scooping whatever she
can find from corners, under furniture, whereever.


Dave Smith

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Mar 14, 2008, 4:06:41 PM3/14/08
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Little Malice wrote:

>
> I have to agree. We have an auto-feed container of dry food for our
> two cats, so they eat when and how much they want to. They still chase
> and kill bugs, mice, etc. If only they'd go after the darn moles...
>

Be careful what you wish for. Mine used to do a good job of keeping the
mole population down. The down side was that they never ate the moles.
Instead, they brought them to the door step, for to eat I guess <?>. Most
summer days I could step outside to the sight of a dead mole with a few
green or blue flies trying to use it for a nursery.


Nancy2

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On Mar 13, 5:07 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ecidnSjXf9QHzkTa...@comcast.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nancy2 wrote:

> >> On Mar 13, 4:46 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> >>> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the mouse
> >>> mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up going
> >>> inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom.
> >>> Thanks
>
> >> Use a toaster oven instead - one with tight-fitting joints.
>
> >> I can't imagine why you are still using a regular open-slotted
> >> toaster, anyway.  TOs are much more versatile.
>
> > Not everyone has counter-space for even a small toaster oven.  I know I
> > don't.  (I couldn't be bothered with putting one away and taking it out
> > again every time I wanted toast; of course storage space is also an
> > issue.) I'd been given a toaster oven/broiler (Black & Decker, I think it
> > was) as a gift.  Aside from the space issue, it was really only useful for
> > things like baking frozen french fries.  As a "broiler" it sucked and it
> > wasn't that great at toasting bread, either!
>
> I haven't had a toaster oven for many years.  When I got my first apartment,
> my parents gave me their old one.  I used it a few times and finally got rid
> of it.  Took up too much room for the amount of times I used it.  I don't
> make a lot of toast either, but the toaster takes up less room and anything
> I might make in the toaster oven can be made in the oven.  Plus with three
> people in the house, I need the size of the oven.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I understand people's problems with toaster ovens, but I tell ya, I
certainly don't want to heat up the whole oven for just a single
serving, which is what I use the TO for. In addition, mine makes
great toast. If I had a regular slot toaster, I wouldn't put it away
anyway, so having a toaster oven on my counter top doesn't bother me.
I don't have much else there, so I have lots of space.

It's all "druthers," you-all have yours and I have mine.

The OP should get rid of the mice, like Shel says, and then s/he
wouldn't have a problem at all.

Aside from a tightly closed box of some sort, there is no cover that
will keep a mouse out of the toaster, unless it is a metal one
(because of the heat) that fits down tightly to the countertop, and
then I still wouldn't count on it.

N.

notbob

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On 2008-03-14, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Be careful what you wish for.

You got that right. I used to open a consession/boat rental stand on a lake
that had a large feral cat population. They'd live off ground squirrels and
were very good at catching them. They didn't drag partially eaten squirrels
up to the veranda that surrounded the stand, they'd simply deposit their
nightly coughed-up hairballs all around. You haven't lived till you've seen
a hairball with one eyeball and teeth. :(

nb

Virginia Tadrzynski

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thank you , Lou. Chester eats quite well. Spoiled rotten cat that he
is......
-ginny


Puester

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> On Mar 13, 4:46 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> I live in the country and no matter how hard I try to keep the
> mouse mouse proof, sooner or later they get in. They always end up
> going inside the toaster for the crumbs on the bottom.
> Thanks

Get rid of the mice.

If they can't get in to the toaster, they'll find other food
in your cupboard to eat, and that's a health hazard. The
toaster is the least of your worries. What about cereal,
cookies or crackers, flour, etc.? They'll find a way into
all of those if you don't take steps to eliminate them
altogether, every time you see evidence of another infestation.

gloria p

monkey_...@yahoo.com

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We took care of a friends one in our house, what a pissy catatude that
creature had.

monkey_...@yahoo.com

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We have a steady supply of those noxious brown recluse style spiders,
our cat somehow tends to stray away from them, but anybody else who is
a spider, chomp.

Michael Kuettner

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"Little Malice" <Little...@g33mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Just put the moles in the auto-feed container ;-)

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Ophelia

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LOL ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


cybercat

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"Michael Kuettner" <mik...@eunet.at> wrote

> Just put the moles in the auto-feed container ;-)
>

hahaha


Little Malice

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LOL!

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Jani in WA

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