Ping Joan Ham Steak :)

[jmcquown]

You had to mention it, I had to buy one. :) I haven't bought ham of any
kind in I don't know how long. It's a big piece of pork! I'm going to
have to cut it into smaller pieces and wrap and freeze most of it. I'm
thinking brunch tomorrow, I'll fry a piece of it and have it with a
couple of eggs.

Jill

[Thomas]

Check the date on it. It may be good for a long time without freezing.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

They generally are a good size. Fried apples are good with it but eggs
will be great, too. Enjoy!!

[Sqwertz]

It's only 1.18lbs, and ham steaks have limited use at 3x the price
of half hams. Just a buy a half ham for $2/lb ($12) and go
carnivore ninja on it. Don't you ever eat sandwiches?

I'm pissed because I just bought my favorite sub rolls and a
horse's diaper worth it's weight in horseradish and I left my ham
out on the counter at 4:AM until 7:PM yesterday.

Ham steaks are a ripoff. But you folks do subsidize our cheap
half ham purchases.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

But not once you open it.

Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.

-sw

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:26:21 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Ham steaks are a ripoff. But you folks do subsidize our cheap
> half ham purchases.
>
> -sw
>

Not really, that is if you don't want a large whole ham and then have to store
it. Sometimes a ham steak will suffice when ham is craved.

[Sqwertz]

Buying/obtaining stuff you don't need is the mother of culinary
inventions.

-sw (drinking a ham milkshake as I type)

[jmcquown]

I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au gratin
potatoes, or heck even mac & cheese. One thing I don't want to do is
eat even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks. This is why I don't
buy half hams. In fact I can't remember the last time I ate ham. It's
been years.

Jill

[Gary]

Sqwertz wrote:
> -sw (drinking a ham milkshake as I type)

That's pretty hardcore, dude.

[Dave Smith]

It is the only form of ham we had for years. We just aren't interested
in baking a whole ham. There were a few times that we bought ham steaks
to have with pancakes on Shrove Tuesday AKA Pancake Day. They were not
expensive.

[Michael Trew]

On 4/23/2023 8:09, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/23/2023 12:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
>> once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
>> in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.
>

> I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au gratin
> potatoes, or heck even mac & cheese. One thing I don't want to do is eat
> even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks. This is why I don't buy
> half hams. In fact I can't remember the last time I ate ham. It's been
> years.

I usually only eat ham when someone else prepares it. I do have a
frozen quarter ham cryo-vac'd in my freezer, which is more mine and
Sophia's speed for a meal plus fridge leftovers.

At Sheldon's suggestion, I bought a can of SPAM a few years ago, and in
a casserole or with eggs, it's basically just salty ham, in a smaller
shelf-stable can. I always keep a couple cans of SPAM on hand in case I
need a little bit of "ham" in some meal.

[Graham]

I think this thread is about what USians call "ham" i.e. pork legs, not
cured pork that we call ham.

[cshenk]

They freeze well. We get the precooked ones and cut them down to
usable meal sizes then freeze. Today is pork stew. Came out really
good.

[jmcquown]

To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it would be
good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I have yet to open
a can of SPAM.

Jill

[songbird]

Sqwertz wrote:
...

> But not once you open it.
>
> Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
> once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
> in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.

we buy sliced ham by the 2lb package, we can usually
eat one of those in a month or less. depends upon
what else we have cooking.

we made the mistake of taking a package of this sam
ham and putting it in the freezer when we were worried
about it going bad. took it out and used i in a noodle
caserole and that was a mistake. the sliced ham lost
all it's flavor into the noodles but it wasn't enough
flavor to give the noodles much of anything so it was
all blah. yes we ate it (with hot sauce in my case),
but we won't be making that mistake again. thin sliced
meats in caserole was bad juju...


songbird

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

> At Sheldon's suggestion, I bought a can of SPAM a few years ago, and in
> a casserole or with eggs, it's basically just salty ham, in a smaller
> shelf-stable can. I always keep a couple cans of SPAM on hand in case I
> need a little bit of "ham" in some meal.

in that case what i much prefer is to take the thin
sliced ham and roll it up with some cream cheese and
onions, cucumbers, pickles, olives or whatever else i
might have on hand (a squirt of hot sauce if i'm eating
them) and that's good eating with those on the side
instead of wasting that thin sliced ham by putting it
in...


songbird

[songbird]

a few weeks ago we came up with the word "hamsmell"
because we were getting so sick of it.


songbird

[cshenk]

Actually we had a lot of spam discussions over time. I too always keep
some handy.

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:
...

> To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it would be
> good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I have yet to open
> a can of SPAM.

i grew up on eating whatever came by, did not argue did not
wait, it was food and made.

in time i eventually tried other canned meats including
canned corned beef (and canned corn beef hash and canned
roast beef hash), and many other canned soups and stews.
in the end now canned anything is a last resort item but
we do keep canned chicken soup, canned tomato and mushroom
soup and spag-o's around, sometimes canned tomato paste
and chunks for a certain recipe where we don't want to use
home-canned tomatoes in. otherwise my favorite canned
item to buy these days is canned sardines of various kinds
and some canned salmon once in a while since we never buy
fresh fish.

there are very few things i cannot eat, but at least now
as i've gotten older and can grow more food i don't need to
eat that ways so we don't buy a lot of it any more and i'm
pretty sure about 20lbs of weight are gone because we've
made these changes. less salt in the diet means less water
being held also along with all the other un-needed calories.


songbird

[Cindy Hamilton]

Cured and smoked pork legs, sliced into steaks.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-23 11:32 a.m., songbird wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
>> But not once you open it.
>>
>> Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
>> once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
>> in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.
>
> we buy sliced ham by the 2lb package, we can usually
> eat one of those in a month or less. depends upon
> what else we have cooking.

Do you start getting that "hamsmell" near the end of the month?

[Dave Smith]

I have not had it since I was a teen. I can say that it is not horrible.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-23 11:50 a.m., songbird wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> ...
>> To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it would be
>> good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I have yet to open
>> a can of SPAM.
>
> i grew up on eating whatever came by, did not argue did not
> wait, it was food and made.
>
> in time i eventually tried other canned meats including
> canned corned beef (and canned corn beef hash and canned
> roast beef hash), and many other canned soups and stews.

When I was a kid I was not crazy about corned beef but it was more of a
once a year meal that we had on St.Patrick's Day. The meat was okay but
I hated the boiled cabbage and plain old boiled potatoes. I don't know
why my mother did not get it more often for sandwiches. Once or twice a
month I had canned corned beef sandwiches packed in my school lunch. I
kinda liked it.

[songbird]

Dave Smith wrote:
...

> Do you start getting that "hamsmell" near the end of the month?

probably on Tue and Fri. showers twice a week Wed, Sat or
Sun. funny enough, winter time showers are less than summer
since i'm not sweating as much.

Hamsmell Dweeblore a good name for a short story...


songbird

[Bruce]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:57:05 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 4/23/2023 8:09, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/23/2023 12:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
>>> once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
>>> in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.
>>
>> I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au gratin
>> potatoes, or heck even mac & cheese. One thing I don't want to do is eat
>> even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks. This is why I don't buy
>> half hams. In fact I can't remember the last time I ate ham. It's been
>> years.
>
>I usually only eat ham when someone else prepares it.

Prepare ham?

[Bruce]

Wut? I was wondering what Michael meant went he spoke of preparing
ham.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 7:09:51 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au gratin
> potatoes, or heck even mac & cheese. One thing I don't want to do is
> eat even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks. This is why I don't
> buy half hams. In fact I can't remember the last time I ate ham. It's
> been years.
>
> Jill
>

Oh, that sounds good in potatoes, or you could even opt for a small pot
of dried beans and add some ham to that. Or a small pot of green beans
with ham thrown in.

[jmcquown]

Yes, I could do a pot of bean soup with diced ham. Maybe I'll look for
a bag of those dried Hambeans. :)

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 10:36:52 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it would be
> good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I have yet to open
> a can of SPAM.
>
> Jill
>

Personally, I don't think you've missed a thing by having never eaten Spam.

[Dave Smith]

LOL Nor would it be the end of the world to try it. It is not horrible.

[jmcquown]

I don't think so, either. I do have a couple of cans of it but never
had to utilize them even when there was a hurricane. LOL

Jill

[jmcquown]

I don't think it would be horrible, I just never bothered to try it.
I'm not sure why it was supposed to be part of the hurricane
preparedness kit. I've been through two of them and never once opened a
can of Spam. <shrug>

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Maybe if someone else had some available she could try it, but I certainly wouldn't
waste money on buying a can just to sample.

[S Viemeister]

It's good added to leek and potato soup, and I add it to my orange
lentil soup, too.

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:
...

> Yes, I could do a pot of bean soup with diced ham. Maybe I'll look for
> a bag of those dried Hambeans. :)

just get some great northern beans and skip the little
package of flavoring, because you'd likely pay a lot
more that than what it's worth.

if you already have ham you don't need the flavoring
and i wouldn't consider it worth adding.


but that's just me (who threw away a package of that
last week because we didn't need it).


songbird

[Ed P]

Can be stored and room temperature and can be eaten right from the can,
no cooking needed. Perfect food for a long power outage.

I like it fried. Just a nice change for breakfast from bacon and
sausage but in the past I've had sandwiches with it. I prefer the low
sodium.

Hey, its a cheap experiment just to give a try.

[Gary]

On 4/23/2023 6:55 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

I agree. I like it well enough (buy maybe 2 cans per year). It's pantry
friendly and always available in a pinch. Works as a substitute for ham
but real ham is better.

BTW, I'm fairly sure that it was me that said it was good emergency meat
during a hurricane (meaning a long power outage).

[Michael Trew]

On 4/23/2023 15:41, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:57:05 -0400, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2023 8:09, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/23/2023 12:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ham does not freeze well. But it will keep in the fridge 2+ weeks
>>>> once opened and stored properly. Who can't finish a pound of ham
>>>> in 2 weeks? That's about 1 ounce of ham a day.
>>>
>>> I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au gratin

>>> potatoes, or heck even mac& cheese. One thing I don't want to do is eat

>>> even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks. This is why I don't buy
>>> half hams. In fact I can't remember the last time I ate ham. It's been
>>> years.
>>
>> I usually only eat ham when someone else prepares it.
>
> Prepare ham?

E.G. I go over to relative's on Easter, and they cook a ham. I also
take home left over ham. Usually no ham for me until next Easter,
Thanksgiving, or whatever.

[Michael Trew]

It's worth trying, although you probably won't like it sliced and fried
like some people suggest. It is plain meat in a can, with no crazy
funky ingredients. Trouble is that it's so salty; that's why I only mix
up little cubes of it into potatoes or eggs. I never use a whole can at
once unless I'm making a big casserole for multiple people. Cut up half
a loaf of SPAM into your next potato casserole or scalloped potatoes.

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/23/2023 10:57 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 4/23/2023 8:09, jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > I may just chop some of it up and add it to escalloped or au
> > > gratin potatoes, or heck even mac & cheese. One thing I don't
> > > want to do is eat even a little bit of ham every day for 2 weeks.
> > > This is why I don't buy half hams. In fact I can't remember the
> > > last time I ate ham. It's been years.
> >
> > I usually only eat ham when someone else prepares it.  I do have a
> > frozen quarter ham cryo-vac'd in my freezer, which is more mine and
> > Sophia's speed for a meal plus fridge leftovers.
> >
> > At Sheldon's suggestion, I bought a can of SPAM a few years ago,
> > and in a casserole or with eggs, it's basically just salty ham, in
> > a smaller shelf-stable can.  I always keep a couple cans of SPAM
> > on hand in case I need a little bit of "ham" in some meal.
>
> To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it would
> be good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I have yet to
> open a can of SPAM.
>
> Jill

That's fine Jill! Your cookery if looked at from a just from a Cajun
vs Creole is very to the Creole (French) side. You probably would like
spam, but in small amounts. More like a garnish.

[jmcquown]

Oh, I already have a couple of cans of it; I should check the date stamp
on the cans. It's simply not something I think about until someone here
mentions it. I forget about it quickly.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Salt doesn't bother me. Sliced and fried sounds like the way to go.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I'm not sure what I understand what you're saying. Why are you bringing
Cajun vs. Creole cooking into a discussion about canned Spam?

Jill

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:49:57 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I was puzzled too, Spam is definitely not as elegant as Cajun or
Creole cooking!!! I have eaten it, thought it was horrible and if
that was all there was I'd be an instant vegetarian.

[dsi1]

I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it. It is however, on the salty side. It goes great with rice. It tastes a lot like Hawaiian kalua pork. I suppose that's pretty weird.
Here's a Spam, egg, and cheese, sandwich. The Spam was cut into thin slices using a large vegetable peeler and fried up crisp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sDVr5wMEg3mb3Vzx8

[Bruce]

Is it processed meat, the type the WHO says is as bad for you as
smoking?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of
> sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it.

"Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.

The ham I buy in the deli is only 3% fat. Spam looks to be almost
a third fat. A two-ounce serving has 30% of the recommended allowance
of fat for a day. It doesn't have anywhere near 30% of the RDA of
protein, so you'd have to eat some real meat to make up for it.

Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of
>> sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it.
>
> "Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.

lol

> The ham I buy in the deli is only 3% fat. Spam looks to be almost
> a third fat. A two-ounce serving has 30% of the recommended allowance
> of fat for a day. It doesn't have anywhere near 30% of the RDA of
> protein, so you'd have to eat some real meat to make up for it.
>
> Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
> eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like it.

we ate it once in a while, but for me i'll take a good
chunk of braunschweiger instead (which is what i'm about to
have for brunch on some bread). hot sauce and mayo version
today.


songbird

[dsi1]

.My guess is that most Americans are reluctant to eat Spam because they view it as being associated with a social class lower below theirs. Nutrition got nothing to do with it.

[dsi1]

It certainly is a processed meat. I'm not ascared of it. It seems fairly harmless.🤔

[Cindy Hamilton]

My husband eats Spam. He's not a lower social class.

I. Just. Don't. Want. To. Eat. Spam.


--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

I. Ain't. Talking. About. You. I. Don't. Care. If. You. Eat. Spam. Or. Don't. Eat. Spam.

[Michael Trew]

On 4/25/2023 11:01, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 1:10:57 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>> On 2023-04-25, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block
>>> of sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it.
>> "Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.

LOL... "parts is parts". In all seriousness, I was surprised to learn
that the only ingredients are "Pork/ham, salt, water, starch, sugar,
sodium nitrate". Very little sugar at that. It's got to be a lot
better than whatever they put in hot dogs (I won't touch those).

>> Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
>> eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like
>> it.

I didn't grow up eating it, either, but it's fine. It's not
particularly healthful, but it's shelf-stable protein and surely won't
kill you in small amounts. It's nice to have a bit of "ham" available
without having to buy a big hunk of ham.

> My guess is that most Americans are reluctant to eat Spam because
> they view it as being associated with a social class lower below
> theirs. Nutrition got nothing to do with it.

You are probably correct. SPAM got our troops through WWII, but it's
taken on a "dirty" name since; So much so that junk E-mail messages are
called "spam" (Is this true? That's my story, and I'ma stickin' to it).

[dsi1]

Indeed, you can survive on Spam and even kill funny looking small yellow guys and somewhat bigger white guys on a diet of Spam. People should show a little respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaeI6H4zZTw

[GM]

"If the Americans had not supplied us with Studebaker trucks and Spam, we would have lost WW II..."

- Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, in his memoirs

--
GM

[Bruce]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 08:04:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Yet everything you eat makes you sick (your words).

[jmcquown]

On 4/25/2023 7:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of
>> sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it.
>
> "Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.
>

LOL! I'm sure they advertising agency for Hormel will get right on that.

> The ham I buy in the deli is only 3% fat. Spam looks to be almost
> a third fat. A two-ounce serving has 30% of the recommended allowance
> of fat for a day. It doesn't have anywhere near 30% of the RDA of
> protein, so you'd have to eat some real meat to make up for it.
>
> Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
> eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like it.
>

I didn't grow up eating it, either. As previously mentioned, I bought a
couple of cans of it for emergency supplies but even during an extended
power outage I didn't try it. I cooked non-canned food on my charcoal
grill.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 4/25/2023 11:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 1:10:57 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of
>>>> sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it.
>>> "Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.
>>>
>>> The ham I buy in the deli is only 3% fat. Spam looks to be almost
>>> a third fat. A two-ounce serving has 30% of the recommended allowance
>>> of fat for a day. It doesn't have anywhere near 30% of the RDA of
>>> protein, so you'd have to eat some real meat to make up for it.
>>>
>>> Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
>>> eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> .My guess is that most Americans are reluctant to eat Spam because they view it as being associated with a social class lower below theirs. Nutrition got nothing to do with it.
>
> My husband eats Spam. He's not a lower social class.
>
> I. Just. Don't. Want. To. Eat. Spam.
>
>

There he goes, guessing again. At least he didn't say "mainlanders are
reluctant". Heh. Hawaiians are very fond of Spam:

https://www.hormelfoods.com/ask-and-answer/why-are-spam-products-so-popular-in-hawaii/

Jill

[Bruce]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 15:56:24 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-04-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 1:10:57 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> "Sausage-like material". My, that's worthy of an ad campaign.
>>>
>>> The ham I buy in the deli is only 3% fat. Spam looks to be almost
>>> a third fat. A two-ounce serving has 30% of the recommended allowance
>>> of fat for a day. It doesn't have anywhere near 30% of the RDA of
>>> protein, so you'd have to eat some real meat to make up for it.
>>>
>>> Spam is fine for those who have a taste for it. I didn't grow up
>>> eating it, and I feel no particular motivation to learn to like it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> .My guess is that most Americans are reluctant to eat Spam because they view it as being associated with a social class lower below theirs. Nutrition got nothing to do with it.
>
>My husband eats Spam. He's not a lower social class.

You don't have to be lower class to have no taste.

[Bruce]

I wonder if spam is what made Americans lose the Vietnam war against
small yellow guys.

[jmcquown]

I don't relate my usual mode of "cookery" to Cajun or Creole. Perhaps
because I said upthread (in a section she snipped) I might dice and add
some of the *ham steak* (not Spam) to escalloped or au gratin potatoes".
Those terms originate with the French but I don't consider them to be
anything more than mid-western casserole dishes. Not Cajun or Creole.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 4/25/2023 3:10 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote :

>
>> It's worth trying, although you probably won't like it sliced and fried
>> like some people suggest. It is plain meat in a can, with no crazy
>> funky ingredients. Trouble is that it's so salty; that's why I only mix
>> up little cubes of it into potatoes or eggs. I never use a whole can at
>> once unless I'm making a big casserole for multiple people. Cut up half
>> a loaf of SPAM into your next potato casserole or scalloped potatoes.
>

> For something out of the past, try this recipe -
> https://i.postimg.cc/FKFyLjDH/spam.jpg
>

heyjoe, that's fun! When I was a kid my mother made something she
called "noodles romanoff". It was a side dish and I know there was sour
cream involved but it did not include Spam.

Jill

[cshenk]

You are into more refined cooking styles overall, is what it means.

[jmcquown]

Thanks for the clarification. My cooking style is fairly simple most of
the time. Tonight I'll be baking some bone-in, skin-on chicken thighs.
It's very simple, a bit like the homemade "shake & bake" you mentioned
in another thread.

Jill

[cshenk]

Now that I think of it, there is a little resembalance there.

> I suppose that's pretty weird. Here's a Spam,
> egg, and cheese, sandwich. The Spam was cut into thin slices using a
> large vegetable peeler and fried up crisp.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/sDVr5wMEg3mb3Vzx8

Yummy! Also, you might mean a mandolin slicer? I just used mine set a
bit high to slice some Daikon, which I then matchsticked (thick) for
Kimchee with carrot and baby bok choy. It's soaking in salty water now.

It's a style of 'fresh kimchee' (not fermented) with scaled down heat
in our case.

[Ed P]

Give it a try. If you try it and do not like it, I will reimburse you
the cost of a can of Spam.

May not ever be your all time favorite food, but aren't you at least
curious?
Deal?

[dsi1]

There you go again with the snide remark. I could have said "mainlanders" and it would be true but I'm trying to avoid triggering the rfc'ers. Yoose guys are a real sensitive bunch. My guess is that Yoose call the land across the water the "mainland" too - you silly goose.

[Max McQuown]

In article <u298c2$100q8$1...@dont-email.me>, j_mc...@comcast.net says...

How is spam different to a penis?

One is junk mail, the other is male junk, and we both
know you don't eat that either, princess.

[S Viemeister]

On 25/04/2023 20:43, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/24/2023 12:25 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> To this day, I've never eaten SPAM. IIRC someone suggested it
>>>> would be good for emergency supplies in case of a hurricane. I
>>>> have yet to open a can of SPAM.

>>> That's fine Jill! Your cookery if looked at from a just from a
>>> Cajun vs Creole is very to the Creole (French) side. You probably
>>> would like spam, but in small amounts. More like a garnish.
>>

>> I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying. Why are you

>> bringing Cajun vs. Creole cooking into a discussion about canned Spam?
>

> You are into more refined cooking styles overall, is what it means.
>

Then why didn't you say that?

[cshenk]

Actually, I suspect it's more common in just some areas and others (as
you can see) have no familiarity with it. It's not however a 'class'
thing. Mainland folks saw it as a war food, as did Hawaii. It fell
off after WWII, but never entirely.

I was in Gulfport Mississippi in November (work trip) and my buddy and
I always go to breakfast before work. They had hashbrowns with Spam
and we had that with eggs and toast plus coffee.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-25, jmcquown wrote:

> There he goes, guessing again.

My guess is it's the salt. Even the supplier realizes this,
thus low-salt Spam is a major component of the Spam franchise.

BB is likely the only one here who adds salt to Spam.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-25, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
> I didn't grow up eating it, either, but it's fine. It's not
> particularly healthful, but it's shelf-stable protein and surely won't
> kill you in small amounts. It's nice to have a bit of "ham" available
> without having to buy a big hunk of ham.

I've got half a pound of sliced ham from the deli sitting in my
fridge right now.

I don't need Spam as a shelf-stable protein. I have canned tuna and
beans (dried and canned).

>> My guess is that most Americans are reluctant to eat Spam because
>> they view it as being associated with a social class lower below
>> theirs. Nutrition got nothing to do with it.
>
> You are probably correct. SPAM got our troops through WWII, but it's
> taken on a "dirty" name since; So much so that junk E-mail messages are
> called "spam" (Is this true? That's my story, and I'ma stickin' to it).

Here's why junk e-mail is called spam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E

Sorry it's subtitled in Spanish.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-25, Bruce wrote:

> I wonder if spam is what made Americans lose
> the Vietnam war against small yellow guys.

It doesn't take much to make you confused.

[GM]

Lol...

'Specially when she *starts out* confused...

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-25, GM wrote:

> Lol...

> 'Specially when she *starts out* confused...

Greg, you can't play the 'gay' card by
using a feminine pronoun to refer to Bruce's
sensitive side.

[Dave Smith]

She is confused about Australia's involvement in Vietnam. If she thinks
that the Americans lost the Vietnam war she will have to concede that
Australia did too.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:45:31 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-04-25 4:39 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On 2023-04-25, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if spam is what made Americans lose
>>> the Vietnam war against small yellow guys.
>>
>> It doesn't take much to make you confused.
>>
>She is confused about Australia's involvement in Vietnam.

You're confused. I wasn't talking about Australia.

[cshenk]

Yes. My cooking style ranges far. I'm not ragging on your's. It
suits you! That's good enough for me.

Tonight we had more of the Pork stew. Later munchies will be fresh
Daikon kimchee bits (made fairly mild) or orange sections. We'll see
what appeals then!

[jmcquown]

Why? So far in my lifetime I have not found canned Spam a necessity.

> May not ever be your all time favorite food, but aren't you at least
> curious?
> Deal?

Thanks for the offer but no, I'm not in the least bit curious. I just
checked the dates on the two cans I have: 2015. The cans are not
bulging or oozing but I will be throwing them away. I will not be
replacing them.

Jill

[cshenk]

Actually, I did. My only error was not belaboring the difference in
Creole (French) vs Cajun. Jill didn't need that. So many 'attack'
here, she probably thought this was another so I clarified it as soon
as I realized it.

[GM]

:-((((

--
GM

[jmcquown]

Your further clarification makes no sense, either. What error with
difference between Creole (French) and Cajun when talking about a can of
Spam? If you're seeing people 'attack' me then you haven't got your
kf's set up. You see BS comments I don't. You don't have to react on
my behalf. I don't see them.

Jill

[Gary]

songbird wrote:but for me i'll take a good
> chunk of braunschweiger instead (which is what i'm about to
> have for brunch on some bread). hot sauce and mayo version
> today.

I love that stuff. Great sandwiches!

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:03:02 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Yummy! Also, you might mean a mandolin slicer? I just used mine set a
> bit high to slice some Daikon, which I then matchsticked (thick) for
> Kimchee with carrot and baby bok choy. It's soaking in salty water now.
>
> It's a style of 'fresh kimchee' (not fermented) with scaled down heat
> in our case.

I used a large peeler. The Japanese and Koreans use it shred cabbage. You can probably pick one up at H Mart or at a Korean market.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ahAyuy1GNp8MAyr57

[Michael Trew]

On 4/25/2023 16:37, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-04-25, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I didn't grow up eating it, either, but it's fine. It's not
>> particularly healthful, but it's shelf-stable protein and surely won't
>> kill you in small amounts. It's nice to have a bit of "ham" available
>> without having to buy a big hunk of ham.
>
> I've got half a pound of sliced ham from the deli sitting in my
> fridge right now.

Chipped chopped Isaly's ham from the deli in mine; half pound.

> I don't need Spam as a shelf-stable protein. I have canned tuna and
> beans (dried and canned).

I also have a few cans of tuna, as well as dried/canned beans, and a
couple of cans of chunked chicken. Aside from two cans of SPAM, I have
a can of Vienna sausages in the cabinet. I also manage to fit a couple
bottles of olive oil, Crisco, vinegar, rice wine, and Worcestershire
sauce in the same 12" cupboard, some how.

>> You are probably correct. SPAM got our troops through WWII, but it's
>> taken on a "dirty" name since; So much so that junk E-mail messages are
>> called "spam" (Is this true? That's my story, and I'ma stickin' to it).
>
> Here's why junk e-mail is called spam:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E

Heh... Sophia loves it when I do the waitress's voice, although she's
never seen Monte Python. She calls it "old British lady".

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:06:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 08:04:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 12:26:25 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 02:59:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I'm not sure what the big deal about Spam is. It's just a block of sausage-like material. There's nothing weird in it. It is however, on the salty side. It goes great with rice. It tastes a lot like Hawaiian kalua pork. I suppose that's pretty weird.

> >> >Here's a Spam, egg, and cheese, sandwich. The Spam was cut into thin slices using a large vegetable peeler and fried up crisp.
> >> >

> >> Is it processed meat, the type the WHO says is as bad for you as
> >> smoking?
> >
> >It certainly is a processed meat. I'm not ascared of it. It seems fairly harmless.🤔
> Yet everything you eat makes you sick (your words).

Not really. I can eat most things. What I can't do is eat too much. I think my stomach has shrunk in the last 20 years or so. Everything will be fine if I eat small amounts of food. It might sound like I have had some kind of procedure on my stomach but I have not. I've just been eating less for the last couple of decades.
OTOH, I would stay away from such surgery. My wife says that it seems to cause mystery death in people that have had it. I think it might be a dirty little secret. My wife's friend has had it. She lost a lot of weight and it cured her diabetes but she's in pretty bad shape. She can't eat anything without feeling sick because her guts have stopped working. Her guts stopped working because of the long term usage of opioids to combat nausea. As it goes, she's starving to death.

[dsi1]

I bought a case of Vienna sausage because of an approaching hurricane. The good news is that I never had to touch it. The good thing about Vienna sausage is that a case doesn't occupy much room, you can eat it out of the can with your fingers, and one can can be one or two meals. I don't like that stuff but whether or not I like it is pretty much irrelevant. When the hits shit the fan, those little cans will be worth their weight in gold - maybe even platinum.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:09:34 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

I think eating less is a good thing as long as it's medically enough.
Almost everybody overeats to some degree.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-04-25, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> You're confused. I wasn't talking about Australia.

No, you were talking about the country that just did this.

<https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/14/netherlands-to-broaden-euthanasia-rules-to-cover-children-of-all-ages>

That one-year-old said "Kill me!". Speaking of Hitler, ...

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-04-27, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> I bought a case of Vienna sausage because of an approaching hurricane. The good news is that I never had to touch it. The good thing about Vienna sausage is that a case doesn't occupy much room, you can eat it out of the can with your fingers, and one can can be one or two meals. I don't like that stuff but whether or not I like it is pretty much irrelevant. When the hits shit the fan, those little cans will be worth their weight in gold - maybe even platinum.

My wife snacks on Vienna sausage. I don't mind it but haven't eaten any
in years. There used to be, and may still be, a product called potted
meat. I used to like it and then read the ingredients list. It's made of
"whats left".

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 03:31:52 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Belgium has had this law since 2014. Children who are dying and only
have suffering to look forward to, are allowed an end to the
suffering. Of course, retarded Americans now think that children are
being murdered in the Netherlands. How can a whole country be this
stupid?

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 03:37:52 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-04-27, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> I bought a case of Vienna sausage because of an approaching hurricane. The good news is that I never had to touch it. The good thing about Vienna sausage is that a case doesn't occupy much room, you can eat it out of the can with your fingers, and one can can be one or two meals. I don't like that stuff but whether or not I like it is pretty much irrelevant. When the hits shit the fan, those little cans will be worth their weight in gold - maybe even platinum.
>
>
>My wife snacks on Vienna sausage.

Can she point at Vienna on a map?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-04-27, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Can she point at Vienna on a map?

Nobody can. The city is called Wien. Did you not know that?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-04-27, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Belgium has had this law since 2014. Children who are dying and only
> have suffering to look forward to, are allowed an end to the
> suffering. Of course, retarded Americans now think that children are
> being murdered in the Netherlands. How can a whole country be this
> stupid?

Indeed! Blame Belgium. I wonder what the kid would say if it could talk?
It's just another way to kill a child, Adolph. Ain't progressivism
great?

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 05:23:45 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Do you realise these are children/people who are already dying? And
who only have pain and suffering to look forward to before death
comes? Would you let your dog suffer like that?

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 05:16:21 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Not in English it's not.

[dsi1]

I found out what was in potted meat when I was a kid back in the 60's. That was quite a surprise. I don't recall what it was - probably something like pig's heart. OTOH, My son would like pig's heart. He's strange that way. These days, given the opportunity, I'd spread that stuff on a cracker and eat it. Only one though - for old times sake. OTOH, I can vividly recall the taste of potted meat. It's pretty distinctive but I can't put my finger on what it is that I'm tasting.

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 05:16:21 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

To be honest, I could point to Austria, but I don't know where in
Austria Vienna is exactly.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-04-27, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Do you realise these are children/people who are already dying? And
> who only have pain and suffering to look forward to before death
> comes? Would you let your dog suffer like that?

Some killers give the "don't let them suffer" excuse. A recent example
is Brian Laundrie. Gabby was hurt so bad, he ended her misery.
Once, a friend was going to put a eagle "out of its misery", because
some other person had recently shot it. I told him that if he killed it,
he would be committing a federal crime. We moved on. I hope the eagle
survived. I'm sure it didn't. Did I give my friend good advice?

[Bruce]

On 27 Apr 2023 08:49:32 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-04-27, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Do you realise these are children/people who are already dying? And
>> who only have pain and suffering to look forward to before death
>> comes? Would you let your dog suffer like that?
>
>
>Some killers give the "don't let them suffer" excuse. A recent example
>is Brian Laundrie. Gabby was hurt so bad, he ended her misery.

I don't know who Brian and Gabbie are and what they have to do with
humane legislation in the Netherlands. But clearly you'd prefer to
torture a child before it inevitably dies. How sick is that?