OT: News readers for PC's?
Omelet
I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
mac...
So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
proficient with the new toy. ;-)
Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
centurytel? :-)
I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
not looking for free accounts, just programs...
I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
do double duty as a toy. <g>
Thanks!
Kat
--
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PLucas@home
@news-wc.giganews.com:
> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!! You didn't say it was a Mac!!!
>
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> centurytel? :-)
>
It seems to run with just about anything.
>
> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> do double duty as a toy. <g>
>
My only advice....... use one for business, and one for a 'toy'.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.
sandi
news:ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com:
> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless
> router for it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm
> already doing my gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much
> faster than this 10+ year old mac...
Congrats!!!
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I
> have zero experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my
> mac. The laptop is not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat
> at work how to use a windows PC, but it's still going to take
> some learning on my part before I'm proficient with the new
> toy. ;-)
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader
> compatible with Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send
> it to gmail, not centurytel? :-)
I tried many of these before chosing Xnews.
http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html
It all depends on what you like and what is easiest for you.
You might want to read through the group
news.software.readers
also.
Good luck
The Cook
wrote:
>Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
>I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
>it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
>gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
>mac...
>
>So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
>experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
>not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
>PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
>proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
>Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
>Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
>centurytel? :-)
>
>I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
>paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
>not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>
>I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
>merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
>a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
>do double duty as a toy. <g>
>
>Thanks!
>Kat
I have used Agent for years with no problems. The current version is
6. You can download a copy and try it for a month to see if you like
it.
http://www.forteinc.com/
But frankly I would not use my business machine for the Internet and
newsgroups. It is too vulnerable to being hacked. But if you really
want to use it like that make off site backups daily or several times
a day. And install an automatic tracking program so you can prove how
much time is used for business and how much for pleasure. IRS likes
to know.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
dsi1
> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
Windows 7 seems to be a pretty good OS - pretty snappy, ain't it? I was
using it for a couple of days until my new computer crapped out.
>
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
I use Thunderbird 3 on the Windows and Linus machines as a newsreader
and for email. It works great and it's free.
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> centurytel? :-)
>
> I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
> paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
> not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>
> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> do double duty as a toy.<g>
I just got an iPad. The funny part is that I have a great dislike of
Apple and their products. No matter, I know the future of computing when
I see it. I sure wish I could run T-bird on it. :-)
>
> Thanks!
> Kat
BeartoothHOS
[....]
> I use Thunderbird 3 on the Windows and Linus machines as a newsreader
> and for email. It works great and it's free.
If you have linux, try using Pan (from http://pan.rebelbase.com/
or by your distribution's equivalent of "yum install pan" You'll likely
be glad you did.
--
Beartooth Implacable, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
What do they know of country, who only country know?
Paul M. Cook
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com...
> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
>
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> centurytel? :-)
>
> I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
> paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
> not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>
> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> do double duty as a toy. <g>
Windows Live Mail will probably be just fine for you. There is Thunderbird
which will do the job, too.
Paul
Joe
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
>
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader?
Axe Squertz. He nose nusereeders.
'-)
Ed Pawlowski
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
>
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> centurytel? :-)
I use Windows Live Mail. Free and it does everything I need. You can also
set it to bottom post by default, unlike earlier versions.
Melba's Jammin'
Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
>
> Thanks!
> Kat
I posted this within the last week for someone else who asked
essentially the same question: Try news.software.readers
--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-2-2010
notbob
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:04:28 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> and for email. It works great and it's free.
>
Really? How so?
I'm not at all surprised, but jes curious at what they did. I'm running XP
on my eee and it's a freakin' nightmare!
I can't for the life of me see why people consider Windows to be easier.
What's with the unending chore of closing nagging pop-up bubbles, the constant
requirement of re-logging in every time I change users and/or come back from
sleep mode, having to beg Mother M$ for permission to use already included
applications, closing EVEN MORE pop-up notification bubbles, a file manager
and search utility that assumes one is a complete MORON (when did they add the
cartoon dog!?), the complete scrambling of the file system hierarchy, blah
blah, blah..... did I mention closing pop-up nag windows?
(I have no clue why I keep getting system/application fault pop-ups that
seem to mean/effect nothing at all, they jes keep popping up)
Yeah, this is easier. NOT!! :\
nb
dsi1
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:04:28 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
> [....]
>> I use Thunderbird 3 on the Windows and Linus machines as a newsreader
>> and for email. It works great and it's free.
>
> If you have linux, try using Pan (from http://pan.rebelbase.com/
> or by your distribution's equivalent of "yum install pan" You'll likely
> be glad you did.
>
Thanks, I will do that. :-)
hk
I run Windows 7 on my iMac and T'bird 3.X works just fine on it.
As for your maze of pop-ups and annoyances, they're easy enough to kill.
Melba's Jammin'
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:07:15 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > In article <ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com>,
> > Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> >> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> >
> > I posted this within the last week for someone else who asked
> > essentially the same question: Try news.software.readers
>
> You can't just go blindly in there and ask "What should I use?".
Not even if you grovel well? It always works for me. :-)
> here are plenty of lists of newsreaders out there with descriptions.
Where?
>
> ObFood: What pants should I buy?
Pay whatever it takes to get a good fit. There's nothing worse than a
man with no ass whose pants are baggy and too loose in the thigh.
Especially if he tries to compensate by hiking the waistband up around
his check to shorten the rise. Spring for the tailoring if that's what
it takes. Really. :-P
>
> -sw
J. Clarke
> machine I install. Even those machines I install for moron-use.
The main thing I got out of those "Mac vs PC" ads that Apple was running
was that Mac couldn't read a help file.
Ed Pawlowski
"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote
> I have a very special ass. I have very large thighs, and a
> smallish, but very shapely butt. The curves of my ass get lost on
> the way to the thighs when I wear most pants.
>
> That's why whenever I catch some woman looking at my butt, I pull my
> pants down so she see what's really going on. Pants just don't do
> me justice.
>
> -sw
I always knew you were a thoughtful person.
notbob
> You can turn all that shit off. It's the first thing I do to any
> machine I install. Even those machines I install for moron-use.
Well, this moron would be eternally grateful if you'd enlighten him on how
to go about cleaning all this crap up.
nb
brooklyn1
> I have a very special ass. I have very large thighs, and a
> smallish, but very shapely butt. The curves of my ass get lost on
Steve really is a dwarf... I knew it! LOL
Ahahahhahahaha. . . . ..
Omelet
Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
Omelet
wrote:
I see he responded, next post.<g>
Omelet
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> The answer to "What newsreader should I use" is simple. Google that
> question, then try them out one by one until you're happy.
>
> I would go with Paul's suggestion(s) for starters.
>
> If you need a specific newsreader for specific purposes or with
> certain features, see the thread from yesterday.
>
> -sw
As long as it has similar filter capacity to MT Newswatcher, I'm good to
go. :-) Thanks Sweetie! <smooch>
I'll be training in Austin on Day Shift for the next three months
starting tomorrow. If you'd like to get together for Pho' or something
just for grins, let me know? I think most of my training will be in
mid-Austin.
Omelet
"PLucas@home" <PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-F285BB.11200804042010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
> > Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> > I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> > it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> > gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> > mac...
>
>
>
> AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!! You didn't say it was a Mac!!!
My OLD computer (that I'm typing this on) is a Mac.
The new toy is a Windoze PC.
>
>
> >
> > So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> > experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> > not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> > PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> > proficient with the new toy. ;-)
> >
> > Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> > Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> > centurytel? :-)
> >
>
>
> http://xnews.newsguy.com/
>
>
> It seems to run with just about anything.
I will look at that and all other suggestions. Thanks!
>
>
> >
> > I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> > merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> > a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> > do double duty as a toy. <g>
> >
>
>
>
> My only advice....... use one for business, and one for a 'toy'.
No way. Can't afford that.<g>
Credit card numbers will be WIPED as soon as the billing is taken care
of by my bank. When credit card records are in the system, it will not
be connected to the internet. I'll be consulting Bank Of America when I
go to set that up to see what software is needed for the merchant
account.
My customer base should not have an issue with credit card bounces,
altho' there is a way to clear a charge via phone lines. I still don't
know all the ins and outs of it. The cellphones may come in to play for
this., or I may purchase a separate machine just for dealing with credit
cards.
Internet customers will be hopefully sent thru paypal.
Omelet
The Cook <susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have used Agent for years with no problems. The current version is
> 6. You can download a copy and try it for a month to see if you like
> it.
> http://www.forteinc.com/
>
> But frankly I would not use my business machine for the Internet and
> newsgroups. It is too vulnerable to being hacked. But if you really
> want to use it like that make off site backups daily or several times
> a day. And install an automatic tracking program so you can prove how
> much time is used for business and how much for pleasure. IRS likes
> to know.
> --
> Susan N.
Thanks. You are the second person to suggest that.
I guess I may then just use usenet on the mac and save
the laptop for business and e-mail.
I will be consulting my bank about the merchant account, and current
security software.
As much fun as this is, I should probably reserve Usenet for hard line
home use only...
Oh well. :-)
I have no intention of retiring the mac anyway. I need it for graphics
work at the very least.
My Brother in law was helping me set up the wireless system on the PC
and warned me about the possibility of it being hacked. The current
Router routine has a pass PHRASE, not a pass WORD. It's around 80
characters or so. They'd have a hell of a time hacking that. ;-)
Omelet
dsi1 <ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/2010 6:20 AM, Omelet wrote:
> > Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> > I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> > it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> > gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> > mac...
>
> Windows 7 seems to be a pretty good OS - pretty snappy, ain't it? I was
> using it for a couple of days until my new computer crapped out.
I hope it was still under warrantee?
I'm getting "instant gratification" with the laptop. ;-)
I like it.
>
> >
> > So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> > experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> > not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> > PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> > proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> I use Thunderbird 3 on the Windows and Linux machines as a newsreader
> and for email. It works great and it's free.
Thanks.
>
> >
> > Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> > Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> > centurytel? :-)
> >
> > I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
> > paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
> > not looking for free accounts, just programs...
> >
> > I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> > merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> > a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> > do double duty as a toy.<g>
>
> I just got an iPad. The funny part is that I have a great dislike of
> Apple and their products. No matter, I know the future of computing when
> I see it. I sure wish I could run T-bird on it. :-)
>
Apple is good and easier to learn.
I did get the PC for business as there is a lot more software. And as
long as I am careful with it...
Hence the "pass phrase" rather than something that can be more easily
hacked. I'm concerned about customer security.
Omelet
"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
I've not yet checked all of the software that came with the machine. It
has Outlook Express for sure. I presume that Windows Live Mail is a
free program from Microsnot?
Omelet
Melba's Jammin' <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com>,
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> > experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
>
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kat
>
> I posted this within the last week for someone else who asked
> essentially the same question: Try news.software.readers
Thanks barb. ! :-)
Omelet
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:07:15 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > In article <ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com>,
> > Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> >> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> >
> > I posted this within the last week for someone else who asked
> > essentially the same question: Try news.software.readers
>
> You can't just go blindly in there and ask "What should I use?".
> here are plenty of lists of newsreaders out there with descriptions.
>
> ObFood: What pants should I buy?
>
> -sw
Smarty pants, what else? <g>
Omelet
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:41:03 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
> You can turn all that shit off. It's the first thing I do to any
> machine I install. Even those machines I install for moron-use.
>
> -sw
I'm not having any issues with this one, (the BIL set it up) except for
asking for my password when it comes back up from sleep mode.
But I really do not mind that.
Omelet
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> >> ObFood: What pants should I buy?
> >
> > Pay whatever it takes to get a good fit. There's nothing worse than a
> > man with no ass whose pants are baggy and too loose in the thigh.
> > Especially if he tries to compensate by hiking the waistband up around
> > his check to shorten the rise. Spring for the tailoring if that's what
> > it takes. Really. :-P
>
> I have a very special ass. I have very large thighs, and a
> smallish, but very shapely butt. The curves of my ass get lost on
> the way to the thighs when I wear most pants.
>
> That's why whenever I catch some woman looking at my butt, I pull my
> pants down so she see what's really going on. Pants just don't do
> me justice.
>
> -sw
And that's why you get hit on by guys. ;-)
dsi1
> In article<%o5un.92845$gF5....@newsfe13.iad>,
> dsi1<ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/4/2010 6:20 AM, Omelet wrote:
>>> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
>>> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
>>> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
>>> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
>>> mac...
>>
>> Windows 7 seems to be a pretty good OS - pretty snappy, ain't it? I was
>> using it for a couple of days until my new computer crapped out.
>
> I hope it was still under warrantee?
> I'm getting "instant gratification" with the laptop. ;-)
> I like it.
That's interesting - a Mac user finding a PC satisfactory. Have you no
loyalty to Apple? Just kidding. My recommendation is that you download
Google's Chrome browser and never use Internet Explorer if you can help
it. Believe me, your experience will be a lot more pleasant.
The computer that crapped out was my new computer build and I had dreams
as to how fast it was gonna be and had all kinds of plans on what I was
going to do. The dreams and plans have been put on hold as there may be
a problem with the RAM or motherboard.
My short exposure to Win 7 has been very favorable. I use an OEM version
of Win 7 that isn't loaded with a lot of advertising and demo programs
in an effort to sell you stuff. I sure wish manufacturers wouldn't do
that to new computers.
Good luck with the new computer - may it stay secure and hack-free.
atec7 7
> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> mac...
>
> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
> centurytel? :-)
>
> I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
> paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
> not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>
> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> do double duty as a toy. <g>
>
> Kat
Down load the free avira and makes sure you run it on all programs
for a reader I use thunderbird across several o/s with little trouble
Ed Pawlowski
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote
>> I use Windows Live Mail. Free and it does everything I need. You can
>> also
>> set it to bottom post by default, unlike earlier versions.
>
> I've not yet checked all of the software that came with the machine. It
> has Outlook Express for sure. I presume that Windows Live Mail is a
> free program from Microsnot?
Outlook Express had been discontinued with Win7. Live Mail is the
replacement. Yes, it is free.
Omelet
dsi1 <ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/2010 5:31 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In article<%o5un.92845$gF5....@newsfe13.iad>,
> > dsi1<ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/4/2010 6:20 AM, Omelet wrote:
> >>> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> >>> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> >>> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> >>> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> >>> mac...
> >>
> >> Windows 7 seems to be a pretty good OS - pretty snappy, ain't it? I was
> >> using it for a couple of days until my new computer crapped out.
> >
> > I hope it was still under warrantee?
> > I'm getting "instant gratification" with the laptop. ;-)
> > I like it.
>
> That's interesting - a Mac user finding a PC satisfactory. Have you no
> loyalty to Apple? Just kidding.
<grins> I'm flexible! Windows is designed on the Mac OS anyway so
there really is not a lot of difference. It's just that Windoze 7 is a
little different than the machines at work that I learned on so I'm
still learning to navigate the hard drive. Plus there will be unfamiliar
software to learn.
> My recommendation is that you download
> Google's Chrome browser and never use Internet Explorer if you can help
> it. Believe me, your experience will be a lot more pleasant.
IE is a pain. <g> I'm currently using Firefox for web browsing. That is
one of the very first things we did when we were setting up the new toy
was to DL Firefox.
>
> The computer that crapped out was my new computer build and I had dreams
> as to how fast it was gonna be and had all kinds of plans on what I was
> going to do. The dreams and plans have been put on hold as there may be
> a problem with the RAM or motherboard.
Oops. Still under warantee I presume?
>
> My short exposure to Win 7 has been very favorable. I use an OEM version
> of Win 7 that isn't loaded with a lot of advertising and demo programs
> in an effort to sell you stuff. I sure wish manufacturers wouldn't do
> that to new computers.
>
Indeed.
Thanks! I am going to have to be very, very careful with customer
credit card numbers. I do NOT plan to store them! I'll be discussing
my options with my bank as I've never done the credit card/merchant
account thing. When I did ebay, I went thru paypal and am going to also
recommend that to customers wherever possible...
Omelet
Omelet
"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
Okay, I'll take a look at it. Right now I'm still using my main Century
account (and usenet) with this computer. I guess I really don't need
remote access to usenet as this system is fast enough for it, I was just
tossing around ideas. :-)
J. Clarke
> operating system, sometimes they comes from an application, soetimes
> from a backround process (firewall, USB monitor, etc...).
>
> Pick one, google it - "How to I turn off Adobe updater...". Fix it.
>
> Pick another - Google it....
>
> Then next time you set up another PC it will be easy to turn off all
> that shit since you know where most of it is already.
>
> One of the first things I install on an XP system is Mike Lin's
> startup monitor and startup control panel and use that to disable a
> bunch of unnecessary programs that start when you login/turn on the
> computer.
I'm curious--what does it do that msconfig doesn't?
> Then I go into MyComputer-> Manage -> Services and
> disable everything that offends me there.
Which comes can be done from msconfig.
> I'm sure there's utilities out there that beautify a new install.
> I don't know what they'd be called, though. Somebody throw him a a
> bone, eh?
>
> It's not any harder than with *nix.
>
> -sw
cookist
>
>
> Windows Live Mail will probably be just fine for you. There is
> Thunderbird
> which will do the job, too.
>
> Paul
Thunderbird would do the job, also try google reader.
--
cookist
Bogbrush
Dont use google anything for nntp access.
Except the search engine. Which would have given you oodles of
suggestions in about a tenth of the time it took you to formulate your
question to a cookery group .....
sf
wrote:
> Thanks! I am going to have to be very, very careful with customer
> credit card numbers. I do NOT plan to store them! I'll be discussing
> my options with my bank as I've never done the credit card/merchant
> account thing. When I did ebay, I went thru paypal and am going to also
> recommend that to customers wherever possible...
You should take credit too. There are too many phishing schemes and
other funny business connected with paypal for me to ever want to use
it, so I will only use my credit card online.
--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
sf
<cookist.5ff...@foodbanter.com> wrote:
> Thunderbird would do the job, also try google reader.
Why did you recommend google reader? That's for RSS and Atom feeds,
not usenet.
dsi1
> In article<Xpfun.39632$ao7....@newsfe21.iad>,
> dsi1<ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
>
>> My recommendation is that you download
>> Google's Chrome browser and never use Internet Explorer if you can help
>> it. Believe me, your experience will be a lot more pleasant.
>
> IE is a pain.<g> I'm currently using Firefox for web browsing. That is
> one of the very first things we did when we were setting up the new toy
> was to DL Firefox.
Firefox is good and allows for a lot customization with add-on. The
problem with that is it those apps tend to bog the browser down and you
get caught in constant updating every single time you open Firefox. The
Google Chrome browser's main advantage is speed and that it suppresses
pop-ups and scripts right out of the box - no tinkering needed, or
allowed, for that matter.
Oddly enough, Chrome is based on Apple's Webkit rendering engine for web
pages - the same one used for Safari and the browser on the iPad. I
don't know how it works but on the iPad, loading up pages is really
snappy. If speed's your thing you gotta try Chrome.
>
>>
>> The computer that crapped out was my new computer build and I had dreams
>> as to how fast it was gonna be and had all kinds of plans on what I was
>> going to do. The dreams and plans have been put on hold as there may be
>> a problem with the RAM or motherboard.
>
> Oops. Still under warantee I presume?
The motherboard and the RAM is under warranty but I'd like to find out
which component is causing the problem before sending it back. My main
problem is that I don't have any way to test the DDR3 memory so I'll
probably have to make a guess at the diagnosis.
I'm sure the bank and any number of credit card processors will be able
to hook you up with a card reader/terminal. You're pretty much in the
drivers seat as far as these credit processing services go. Check out
several and pick out the one able to give you the best deal. My guess is
that the bank won't give you a very good deal but you might feel more
comfortable with them. Shop around is my advice.
Doug Freyburger
>
> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> Windows 7 would be appreciated.
The one I use is XPN -
XPN: <http://xpn.altervista.org/index-en.html>
It shares its filtering code with a few other newsreaders so it has
plenty of function. The best one to me is being able to kill any post
that is posted to some number of groups. I have it set to kill ones
that are posted to 4+ groups anywhere and 2+ groups in certain high
noise groups that I read. Cross posting is used by trolls and other
abusers and it dramatically cuts the noise.
I also have a sizable list of killed authors but almost any reader can
do that.
Dan Abel
sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> You should take credit too.
Why?
> There are too many phishing schemes and
> other funny business connected with paypal
Phishing schemes aren't connected with the subject of the phishing.
They are just sent out randomly. They are often for Mastercard or Visa,
even though the phisher has no idea whether you have such a card. And
what other funny business is there?
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
sf
> In article <l54kr5lkp5jcmbidi...@4ax.com>,
> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > You should take credit too.
>
> Why?
There will be customers, like me, that she will lose.
>
> > There are too many phishing schemes and
> > other funny business connected with paypal
>
> Phishing schemes aren't connected with the subject of the phishing.
> They are just sent out randomly. They are often for Mastercard or Visa,
> even though the phisher has no idea whether you have such a card. And
> what other funny business is there?
I don't use anything that resembles a debit card... including debit
cards. You don't want someone to have your credit card number, well
at least you're protected by the credit card company. I don't give
anyone to have access to my checking account, there is *no* protection
with debit and paypal.
sf
> Oddly enough, Chrome is based on Apple's Webkit rendering engine for web
> pages - the same one used for Safari and the browser on the iPad. I
> don't know how it works but on the iPad, loading up pages is really
> snappy. If speed's your thing you gotta try Chrome.
One second vs two isn't a big deal.
Dave Smith
> You should take credit too. There are too many phishing schemes and
> other funny business connected with paypal for me to ever want to use
> it, so I will only use my credit card online.
Paypal is scary. For a while I was getting all sorts of emails about my
account. stuff like someone from eBay had sent my stuff but I hadn't
paid. I have never bought anything on eBay and I have never had a Paypal
account.
Mort
Yes but all that stuff is a scam. That's not paypal's
doing. The baby is going out with the bathwater here.
It's easy to tell the difference between a scam and
and something authentic from paypal.
I would no sooner avoid paypal because they're used in phishing
scams than I would avoid using banks for the same reason.
--
Mort
dsi1
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:53:56 -1000, dsi1<ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Oddly enough, Chrome is based on Apple's Webkit rendering engine for web
>> pages - the same one used for Safari and the browser on the iPad. I
>> don't know how it works but on the iPad, loading up pages is really
>> snappy. If speed's your thing you gotta try Chrome.
>
> One second vs two isn't a big deal.
>
It sure ain't! On a geologic scale, a second is the same as a thousand
years. On a human scale it ain't a big deal either. Except the reality
is that you only have a limited number of seconds available to you. You
just think you can squander seconds of your life. You're sure going to
be wishing you had a few more in the future. To a computer a second is a
very big deal - about 3,200,000,000 clock cycles. Call me a tightwad - I
don't care to waste time.
Food Snob®
Really. You practically *have* to have Paypal to buy *anything* on
eBay. People seem to be afraid of all the wrong things. Like stupid
parents who are afraid to let their kids go more than 2 blocks from
home because they are afraid of bad strangers abducting them, but
don't strictly enforce the wearing of helmets for biking/skating, or
the dumbfucks who don't get their kids vaccinated.
>
> --
> Mort
--Bryan
J. Clarke
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:19:46 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2010 7:03 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> One of the first things I install on an XP system is Mike Lin's
>>> startup monitor and startup control panel and use that to disable a
>>> bunch of unnecessary programs that start when you login/turn on the
>>> computer.
>>
>> I'm curious--what does it do that msconfig doesn't?
>
> [HKCU|HKLM]/Run[once]. And msconfig doesn't have a startup monitor
> that tells me when something possibly devious is installing itself.
> Lin's also lets you re-enable and recall things you've disabled or
> even deleted (which is worth the price alone).
>
> In general, given the choice between using any arbitrary ms*.exe and
> 3rdparty*.exe, I'll almost always choose to use the later. Usually
> there is an advantage. Otherwise they wouldn't have been written in
> the first place).
>
>>> Then I go into MyComputer-> Manage -> Services and
>>> disable everything that offends me there.
>>
>> Which comes can be done from msconfig.
>
> and there, not just the next time you boot. It also provides
> descriptions of services for those non-familiar non-MS services, any
> dependencies, etc.. It also shows you the command line of the
> service to run (in most cases) - which is often the only thing
> telling you what that service really is or what it came packaged
> with.
>
> I hope I have satisfied your curiosity. The differences *are*
> pretty obvious. I shouldn't have to explain my preferences.
I'm not asking you to "explain your preferences", I'm wondering whether
it's something that it worth my time to investigate further or whether
it just replicates functionality that is present in tools with which I
am already familiar.
Jean B.
> In article <hpar0o$6td$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com...
>>> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
>>> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
>>> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
>>> mac...
>>>
>>> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
>>> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
>>> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
>>> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>>>
>>> centurytel? :-)
>>>
>>> I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
>>> paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
>>> not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>>>
>>> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
>>> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
>>> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
>>> do double duty as a toy. <g>
>>
>> which will do the job, too.
>>
>> Paul
>
What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past? I
started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
--
Jean B.
PLucas@home
> Omelet wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
>
> What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past? I
> started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
> Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
> use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
> the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
>
I've got Firefox for a Browser, Thunderbird for Email (the SO has Eudora) and
Xnews for newsgroups.
I remember using Netscape from many, *many* years ago!!
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.
Jean B.
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in news:81vbe4...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>>> Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
>> What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past? I
>> started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
>> Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
>> use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
>> the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
>>
>
>
>
> I've got Firefox for a Browser, Thunderbird for Email (the SO has Eudora) and
> Xnews for newsgroups.
>
>
> I remember using Netscape from many, *many* years ago!!
>
more than Firefox and Thunderbird. As with the old Netscape,
Seamonkey includes a news reader.
--
Jean B.
sf
Don't you live in Paradise and aren't you on Hawaiian Time? You're
not a computer, so you can afford a whole second... it's over in the
bat of an eyelash anyway. ;) It probably took you longer to read
this reply than it takes even the most graphic of pages to load into a
browser.
PLucas@home
Just went and had a look at the Seamonkey website......
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
"Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla source code which
powers such successful siblings as Firefox, Thunderbird, Camino, Sunbird
and Miro. Legal backing is provided by the Mozilla Foundation."
Looking at the screenshots, it virtually looks the same as Firefox and
Thunderbird :-)
I know that Thunderbird can include a newsreader, but I like to keep it
seperate.
sf
I don't know if I'd like it.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/124931/seamonkey_offers_browser_email_and_chat.html
Omelet
cookist <cookist.5ff...@foodbanter.com> wrote:
> > Windows Live Mail will probably be just fine for you. There is
> > Thunderbird
> > which will do the job, too.
> >
> > Paul
>
>
> Thunderbird would do the job, also try google reader.
>
>
>
>
> --
> cookist
At this point, I plan to look at Live Mail and Thunderbird, then see
which one is the easiest to use. :-)
Thanks to EVERYONE that responded to this thread!
I won't be posting quite as much for awhile. Started the new job today
and between that and the time I need to put into the Internet marketing
class and stuff, I'll have to cut wayyyyy back. <sigh>
I'll be learning the new PC, the website builder template program, plus
two separate computer programs at work, and re-learning how to do
atypical antibody screens in Blood Bank for the first time in 20 years...
Can you spell "information overload"?
Plus, I have homework to do for work to get set up in the health care
benefits program they have available...
ARGH!!
And then there is that Chinese import deal I'm still going after since I
got my funding in from the IRA's I cashed out and that will be internet
marketing and "cold selling", plus I already have customers waiting for
that product so I have to come thru with it...
Omelet
wrote:
> >> Windows Live Mail will probably be just fine for you. There is
> >> Thunderbird
> >> which will do the job, too.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >
> > Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
>
> What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past?
MT Newswatcher but that's strictly for the macintosh.
Odds are, I will just continue using the mac for usenet. This computer
won't be retired as I also use it for graphics using Photoshop CS.
Right now I'm just web-browsing and using g-mail on the new PC as it's
SO much faster for regular website internet access.
> I
> started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
> Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
> use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
> the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
>
> --
> Jean B.
I gave up Netscape long ago. It's ruined more than one hard drive. :-(
I use firefox on both the mac and the PC for web browsing and g-mail.
The PC does not yet have a newsreader unless I want to use googlegroups,
which I don't. Not the least of which GG does not carry binaries.
I'm still weighing my options. :-) Question is, the mac is perfectly
functional with MT newswatcher for usenet. Do I really want to turn my
business machine into a toy, other than installing that PC flame fractal
program I've been lusting after that is not made for a mac? <g>
The program name is "Apophysis". Odds are, I WILL install that program
on the new toy, if it is compatible with Windows 7:
<http://www.arcanefractals.com/>
Omelet
"PLucas@home" <PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in news:81vbe4...@mid.individual.net:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
> >
> > What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past? I
> > started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
> > Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
> > use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
> > the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
> >
>
>
>
> I've got Firefox for a Browser, Thunderbird for Email (the SO has Eudora) and
> Xnews for newsgroups.
>
>
> I remember using Netscape from many, *many* years ago!!
I used to use netscape. It's been several years.
I use macmail for regular mail, firefox for web browsing and gmail (and
it's slower than snail snot since the internet has sped up and this
ancient mac is macxed out) and MT newswatcher for usenet.
I wish they made a version of MT for windows machines! :-)
Omelet
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:39:02 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks! I am going to have to be very, very careful with customer
> > credit card numbers. I do NOT plan to store them! I'll be discussing
> > my options with my bank as I've never done the credit card/merchant
> > account thing. When I did ebay, I went thru paypal and am going to also
> > recommend that to customers wherever possible...
>
> You should take credit too. There are too many phishing schemes and
> other funny business connected with paypal for me to ever want to use
> it, so I will only use my credit card online.
Heh! The phishing scams for paypal are so very obvious!
I have over a 4,000 positive rating on Paypal due to my ebay days prior
to 2006 when I stopped doing auctions for awhile. My ebay rating is
>4,600 positive. Only ever got 3 negatives. Not everybody appreciates
serious attempts at good service. <g> Some people are just ass holes no
matter how hard you try.
Paypal is lovely for small international sales. Less expensive too and
very secure. I actually highly recommend it. I use it whenever offered
for any purchases I make from various websites, as long as I can confirm
that they are secure during the transfer.
You can also use a credit cards thru paypal. You do not have to use a
direct checking account transfer.
Omelet
dsi1 <ds...@spamnet.com> wrote:
> >> My recommendation is that you download
> >> Google's Chrome browser and never use Internet Explorer if you can help
> >> it. Believe me, your experience will be a lot more pleasant.
> >
> > IE is a pain.<g> I'm currently using Firefox for web browsing. That is
> > one of the very first things we did when we were setting up the new toy
> > was to DL Firefox.
>
> Firefox is good and allows for a lot customization with add-on. The
> problem with that is it those apps tend to bog the browser down and you
> get caught in constant updating every single time you open Firefox. The
> Google Chrome browser's main advantage is speed and that it suppresses
> pop-ups and scripts right out of the box - no tinkering needed, or
> allowed, for that matter.
>
> Oddly enough, Chrome is based on Apple's Webkit rendering engine for web
> pages - the same one used for Safari and the browser on the iPad. I
> don't know how it works but on the iPad, loading up pages is really
> snappy. If speed's your thing you gotta try Chrome.
Ok. I'll take a looksee at it. thanks.
>
> >>
> >> Good luck with the new computer - may it stay secure and hack-free.
> >
> > Thanks! I am going to have to be very, very careful with customer
> > credit card numbers. I do NOT plan to store them! I'll be discussing
> > my options with my bank as I've never done the credit card/merchant
> > account thing. When I did ebay, I went thru paypal and am going to also
> > recommend that to customers wherever possible...
>
> I'm sure the bank and any number of credit card processors will be able
> to hook you up with a card reader/terminal. You're pretty much in the
> drivers seat as far as these credit processing services go. Check out
> several and pick out the one able to give you the best deal. My guess is
> that the bank won't give you a very good deal but you might feel more
> comfortable with them. Shop around is my advice.
<lol> Once the state released my new business info' the week after I got
my new state sales tax ID, I got no less than 15 calls over 3 days for
banks offering me merchant accounts, including 3 out of New Delhi.
Yes, I think I'd feel more comfortable with my local Bank Of America,
depending on the final fee structure. There is another local bank that
contacted me with the best deal yet. 0.3% of all transactions plus a
flat annual fee. I don't recall all the details, but I stored the
e-mail. I referred all calls to my 2nd gmail address I set up to handle
all this stuff. Kept me from burning minutes on my tracfone.
Omelet
Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
True. My MT newswatcher killfiles grow almost daily when some morons
crosspost from political lists.
Nancy Young
> You can also use a credit cards thru paypal. You do not have to use a
> direct checking account transfer.
I had a checking account linked to Paypal for the cookbook project.
Now I just have a credit card, because otherwise those Paypal
phishing emails would keep me up at night. I haven't gotten one
of those in ages, though, I guess they're being filtered by my ISP.
nancy
Omelet
sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
You can shunt paypal payments to a specific credit card.
That gives you the option to bounce the charge if it's bogus. :-)
I'll take cash, checks, paypal or direct credit cards once I get set up
with my own merchant account.
I don't currently have inventory yet. Hopefully I will by the end of
April if everything goes as planned. I just have to hope that the
samples I purchased will last my current customers until then!
I already have some established clientele.
Otherwise, I'd not be taking this kind of financial gamble. The minimum
orders from the exporters are HUGE. But, that's what makes getting it
there so lucrative. And the quality is actually better than the
overpriced stuff coming out of Amsterdam. The samples I've tested on
myself and my customers have tested are really good.
I'm looking at at least a 5K initial investment (and the two suppliers
are cutting me some slack allowing me to order 1/2 orders), but that's
actually not a lot of money depending on how you look at it. Then I have
to sell the rest of what my current customers won't need, but try to
estimate their future needs and store it until I have the capital to
re-order so I can keep a reliable supply for them. That means paying for
warehousing at a local storage facility, preferably the climate
controlled one.
Plus with cold selling, I hope to build up a number of regular customers
at various clinics.
Then there is the headache of learning all about importing and
international retail and dealing with the FDA.
It's a new great adventure for me. :-)
I am paying for the services of an experienced Import broker per the
advice of the local SBA center and the Chamber of Commerce.
Omelet
Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
It's rather easy to detect Phishers. ;-)
I get them all the time and just trash them after forwarding them to
"sp...@paypal.com" or "sp...@ebay.com".
Hanging out on marketing lists a few years ago was a good education.
I'm not going to trash a perfectly good system due to the rats out
there! It's far more fun to kill them.
Omelet
Mort <mo...@nospam.com> wrote:
THANK YOU!
I get phishing scams for Bank Of America too.
Does that mean that I'm going to try to get them to sell my mortgage?
Nope.
They won't ask for that kind of info' in an e-mail.
People that fall for this crap deserve what they get.
Omelet
"Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
You have a good ISP. :-)
I can tell when I get them and forward them to sp...@paypal.com and I
always get a response from them.
If in doubt, close the browsers, then open a new one. Check in to your
paypal account using https://www.paypal.com Sign in to check your
account status.
It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
PLucas@home
@news-wc.giganews.com:
>
> It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
> e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
Omelet
"PLucas@home" <PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-E7058B.23372305042010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
> >
> > It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
> > e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
Yep! Just like those folks that fall for the 419 scams and send
$60,000.oo for them to ship you 4 million dollars.
Right... <sigh>
PLucas@home
@news-wc.giganews.com:
> In article <Xns9D52996EAD544P...@61.9.191.5>,
> "PLucas@home" <PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
>
>> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-
E7058B.23372305042010
>> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
>> > e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
>
> Yep! Just like those folks that fall for the 419 scams and send
> $60,000.oo for them to ship you 4 million dollars.
>
> Right... <sigh>
What???!!! You mean.........??? No 4 million $$'s???!!
The bastids!!!
(And yes, sarcasm is one of the many services I provide ;-)
Omelet
"PLucas@home" <PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
> >> > It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
> >> > e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
> >
> > Yep! Just like those folks that fall for the 419 scams and send
> > $60,000.oo for them to ship you 4 million dollars.
> >
> > Right... <sigh>
>
>
>
> What???!!! You mean.........??? No 4 million $$'s???!!
>
> The bastids!!!
>
>
>
> (And yes, sarcasm is one of the many services I provide ;-)
And you don't even charge for it... <g>
Steve Pope
>Paypal is lovely for small international sales. Less expensive too and
>very secure. I actually highly recommend it. I use it whenever offered
>for any purchases I make from various websites, as long as I can confirm
>that they are secure during the transfer.
>You can also use a credit cards thru paypal. You do not have to use a
>direct checking account transfer.
Nope. The last two times I have tried this, Paypal harvested my
credit card info before telling me I couldn't use a card after all,
I had to link paypal to my bank account. Yeahh-rright, like
I'm going to give them a pipeline to my bank.
So in both cases, I had to give up on paypal and send the seller
a money order. This was after spending up to four hours dicking
with paypal trying to get the transaction to go through.
Paypal *does* work if the seller has set up a one-click link
to use. It *does not* work if the seller just wants you
to send money to their email address, unless you give paypal
your bank credentials.
I did have the option of calling them and pleading them to
let the card transaction go through.
Their modus of operation is insane.
Steve
frie...@zoocrewphoto.com
> In article <Xpfun.39632$ao7.38...@newsfe21.iad>,
>
>
>
> dsi1 <d...@spamnet.com> wrote:
> > On 4/4/2010 5:31 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > > In article<%o5un.92845$gF5.24...@newsfe13.iad>,
> > > dsi1<d...@spamnet.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On 4/4/2010 6:20 AM, Omelet wrote:
> > >>> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
> > >>> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
> > >>> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
> > >>> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
> > >>> mac...
>
> > >> using it for a couple of days until my new computer crapped out.
>
> > > I hope it was still under warrantee?
> > > I'm getting "instant gratification" with the laptop. ;-)
> > > I like it.
>
> > That's interesting - a Mac user finding a PC satisfactory. Have you no
> > loyalty to Apple? Just kidding.
>
> <grins> I'm flexible! Windows is designed on the Mac OS anyway so
> there really is not a lot of difference. It's just that Windoze 7 is a
> little different than the machines at work that I learned on so I'm
> still learning to navigate the hard drive. Plus there will be unfamiliar
> software to learn.
>
> > My recommendation is that you download
> > Google's Chrome browser and never use Internet Explorer if you can help
> > it. Believe me, your experience will be a lot more pleasant.
>
> IE is a pain. <g> I'm currently using Firefox for web browsing. That is
> one of the very first things we did when we were setting up the new toy
> was to DL Firefox.
>
>
>
> > as to how fast it was gonna be and had all kinds of plans on what I was
> > going to do. The dreams and plans have been put on hold as there may be
> > a problem with the RAM or motherboard.
>
> Oops. Still under warantee I presume?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > My short exposure to Win 7 has been very favorable. I use an OEM version
> > of Win 7 that isn't loaded with a lot of advertising and demo programs
> > in an effort to sell you stuff. I sure wish manufacturers wouldn't do
> > that to new computers.
>
> Indeed.
>
> > >>> So, what should I look for and install for a newsreader? I have zero
> > >>> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
> > >>> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
> > >>> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
> > >>> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>
> > >> and for email. It works great and it's free.
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > >>> Any hints, ideas, links, downloads for a good newsreader compatible with
> > >>> centurytel? :-)
>
> > >>> I know that some threads have been run on this in the past, but I've not
> > >>> paid much attention to them. I'll simply use my giganews account so I'm
> > >>> not looking for free accounts, just programs...
>
> > >>> I bought the PC for business purposes (mainly so I could set up a
> > >>> merchant account with my bank to accept credit cards for sales) but it's
> > >>> a machine with a rather large capacity, so there is no reason it cannot
> > >>> do double duty as a toy.<g>
>
> > >> Apple and their products. No matter, I know the future of computing when
> > >> I see it. I sure wish I could run T-bird on it. :-)
>
> > > Apple is good and easier to learn.
> > > I did get the PC for business as there is a lot more software. And as
> > > long as I am careful with it...
>
> > > Hence the "pass phrase" rather than something that can be more easily
> > > hacked. I'm concerned about customer security.
>
> > Good luck with the new computer - may it stay secure and hack-free.
>
> Thanks! I am going to have to be very, very careful with customer
> credit card numbers. I do NOT plan to store them! I'll be discussing
> my options with my bank as I've never done the credit card/merchant
> account thing. When I did ebay, I went thru paypal and am going to also
> recommend that to customers wherever possible...
>
Take a look at www.propay.com. This is the service that I use. It is a
lot like paypal, but allows me to accept credit cards directly from
customers. I can enter them online or via phone, and the money is in
my account in 3-4 days. I pay $60 a year for my account and then a fee
per charge. So, if I go a month without credit card purchases, I don't
have to pay a minimum fee for no service. Before that, I tried another
service that claimed a $25 a month minimum, but it was $25 a month in
charging fees plus a statement fee and wirelesss fee. So, they charged
me $52 the first month without a single transaction. I canceled that
service. It wasn't good at all for a smaller business like mine.
I've used it for a year and a half now, and I am very happy with it.
At cat shows, I do use an imprint machine with slips so that I have
proof of the transaction, and it looks professional. I save them in a
locked case and later shred them. I got the imprint machine used very
cheap, and I buy my slips via ebay. But you don't have to use slips.
When I first started using it, I could go a few shows without a credit
card purchase. Now, at least half my sales are with credit card.
Propay sends you a card, like paypal does. The only real difference is
that the card is credit only. It cannot be used as a debit card.
With the $60 account level, I can accept all types of cards, and I can
process transactions up to $500 each and up to $3,000 a month. There
is one level higher with higher maxes. I believe that one is $120 a
year. So, I can upgrade when I get busier.
Anyway, they have all the information on the website. Maybe it will be
something useful for you.
frie...@zoocrewphoto.com
<PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
> Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-E7058B.23372305042010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
>
> > It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
> > e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
>
> And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
Also, when you put your mouse over the link, the address will show
below, and the address will be something else, usually a bunch of
numbers. Not the address that appears in the link. So, it is obvious
that it is a fake.
I have never had a problem with paypal,. and I have been buying and
selling with it for at least 6 years, probably more.
Omelet
spo...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
You may want to check out click bank.
Paypal has had my banking information now for over 10 years. I've never
had a problem with it and it's been handy for international sales and
purchases.
Omelet
<a8f6d8f3-900f-4082...@x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"frie...@zoocrewphoto.com" <frie...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
Same here. Much, much longer. Taking paypal increased my ebay sales by
a good 40% once I signed on with it. It's been over 10 years and my
current positive ebay rating is slightly over 4,600. eBay user id is
"Katra" if anyone wants to see the profile and feedback.
Krypsis
> In article<ecohr51rkh4qrm5f2...@4ax.com>,
> The Cook<susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I have used Agent for years with no problems. The current version is
>> 6. You can download a copy and try it for a month to see if you like
>> it.
>> http://www.forteinc.com/
>>
>> But frankly I would not use my business machine for the Internet and
>> newsgroups. It is too vulnerable to being hacked. But if you really
>> want to use it like that make off site backups daily or several times
>> a day. And install an automatic tracking program so you can prove how
>> much time is used for business and how much for pleasure. IRS likes
>> to know.
>> --
>> Susan N.
>
> Thanks. You are the second person to suggest that.
> I guess I may then just use usenet on the mac and save
> the laptop for business and e-mail.
I suggest you do it the other way round! Usenet on the laptop and
business on the Mac.
My work supplied computer is a Mac. It's got a few extra things,
security wise, on it that I don't see on other privately owned Macs.
>
> I will be consulting my bank about the merchant account, and current
> security software.
>
> As much fun as this is, I should probably reserve Usenet for hard line
> home use only...
>
> Oh well. :-)
>
> I have no intention of retiring the mac anyway. I need it for graphics
> work at the very least.
>
> My Brother in law was helping me set up the wireless system on the PC
> and warned me about the possibility of it being hacked. The current
> Router routine has a pass PHRASE, not a pass WORD. It's around 80
> characters or so. They'd have a hell of a time hacking that. ;-)
I'm sure they are working on it. Use the highest encryption levels you
have, at least WPA2. My IT boys tell me WEP is unsafe and WPA is in the
process of being hacked.
Krypsis
Krypsis
> In article<08ydnfCFnsU1lSTW...@giganews.com>,
> "Ed Pawlowski"<e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet"<ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ompomelet-F285B...@news-wc.giganews.com...
>>> Purchased a new toy yesterday. Laptop PC that runs Windows 7.
>>> I will probably be using it more; We have set up a wireless router for
>>> it so it's internet ready and up and running. I'm already doing my
>>> gmail with it as it loads and runs SO much faster than this 10+ year old
>>> mac...
>>>
>>> experience using usenet with a PC as opposed to my mac. The laptop is
>>> not a mac obviously and I learned somewhat at work how to use a windows
>>> PC, but it's still going to take some learning on my part before I'm
>>> proficient with the new toy. ;-)
>>>
>>> Windows 7 would be appreciated. Please send it to gmail, not
>>> centurytel? :-)
>>
>> set it to bottom post by default, unlike earlier versions.
>
> I've not yet checked all of the software that came with the machine. It
> has Outlook Express for sure. I presume that Windows Live Mail is a
Outlook Express is like a piece of Swiss Cheese.
> free program from Microsnot?
From what I gather, Windows Mail is a reincarnation of Outlook. That
makes it highly suspect in my book.
Krypsis
Krypsis
> In article<bkq3ou8m...@sqwertz.com>,
> Sqwertz<swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
>>>> ObFood: What pants should I buy?
>>>
>>> Pay whatever it takes to get a good fit. There's nothing worse than a
>>> man with no ass whose pants are baggy and too loose in the thigh.
>>> Especially if he tries to compensate by hiking the waistband up around
>>> his check to shorten the rise. Spring for the tailoring if that's what
>>> it takes. Really. :-P
>>
>> I have a very special ass. I have very large thighs, and a
>> smallish, but very shapely butt. The curves of my ass get lost on
>> the way to the thighs when I wear most pants.
>>
>> That's why whenever I catch some woman looking at my butt, I pull my
>> pants down so she see what's really going on. Pants just don't do
>> me justice.
>>
>> -sw
>
> And that's why you get hit on by guys. ;-)
Nah, that's because of the location of the pantsdropping...
Krypsis
Krypsis
> Omelet<ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet-E7058B.23372305042010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
>>
>> It really is that easy! Never NEVER click on a paypal link sent by
>> e-mail and enter secure information!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> And yet, there's always some schmuck, somewhere, that will.
>
>
>
so they waste their time.
Krypsis
pltrgyst
>.... I don't give
>anyone to have access to my checking account, there is *no* protection
>with debit and paypal.
It's pretty easy to set up a second, dedicated checking account to be drawn upon
by your debit card or Paypal, and to only move funds into it as needed.
-- Larry
Krypsis
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:39:33 -0700, Dan Abel<da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> In article<l54kr5lkp5jcmbidi...@4ax.com>,
>
> There will be customers, like me, that she will lose.
>>
>>> other funny business connected with paypal
>>
>> They are just sent out randomly. They are often for Mastercard or Visa,
>> even though the phisher has no idea whether you have such a card. And
>> what other funny business is there?
>
> I don't use anything that resembles a debit card... including debit
> cards. You don't want someone to have your credit card number, well
> anyone to have access to my checking account, there is *no* protection
> with debit and paypal.
>
It's for THEIR benefit, not yours.
Krypsis
J. Clarke
> "Jean B."<jb...@rcn.com> wrote in news:81vi5r...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> PLucas@home wrote:
>>> "Jean B."<jb...@rcn.com> wrote in
>>> news:81vbe4...@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Thanks. Chas (my BIL) also recommended T-bird.
>>>> What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past? I
>>>> started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
>>>> Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
>>>> use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
>>>> the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've got Firefox for a Browser, Thunderbird for Email (the SO has
>>> Eudora) and Xnews for newsgroups.
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember using Netscape from many, *many* years ago!!
>>>
>> more than Firefox and Thunderbird. As with the old Netscape,
>> Seamonkey includes a news reader.
>>
>
>
> Just went and had a look at the Seamonkey website......
>
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
>
> "Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla source code which
> powers such successful siblings as Firefox, Thunderbird, Camino, Sunbird
> and Miro. Legal backing is provided by the Mozilla Foundation."
>
>
> Looking at the screenshots, it virtually looks the same as Firefox and
> Thunderbird :-)
>
> I know that Thunderbird can include a newsreader, but I like to keep it
> seperate.
You're going to find very few newsreaders that are not also email
clients, so "keeping it separate" in that sense is pointlessly reducing
your options.
Bogbrush
You are incorrect. FEW newsreaders are also mail clients.
Sure, there are some good combined ones. But they are not the majority
by any means.
notbob
sf
wrote:
No thank you. I don't want to use Paypal, so why would I go to all
that insane trouble of setting up another account just to use
something I have no interest in using?
--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
sf
Goody for you. I've never had a problem with my credit card, checking
account or credit rating and no one has ever stolen my identity. That
doesn't mean nobody has ever had a problem with any of the above.
I'll take my chances you take yours. I chose not to use Paypal. Not
calling Paypal users stupid ignoramuses is a free service *I* provide.
Steve Pope
> spo...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>> Paypal harvested my
>> credit card info before telling me I couldn't use a card after all,
>> I had to link paypal to my bank account. Yeahh-rright, like
>> I'm going to give them a pipeline to my bank. [snip]
>You may want to check out click bank.
>Paypal has had my banking information now for over 10 years. I've never
>had a problem with it and it's been handy for international sales and
>purchases.
Still, is it not unreasaonble (and possibly, illegal) for a vendor
to ask for your credit card information when they have _no intention_
of letting you use the credit card to make a purchase?
That seems very very wrong to me.
Steve
Christine Dabney
Pope) wrote:
>Still, is it not unreasaonble (and possibly, illegal) for a vendor
>to ask for your credit card information when they have _no intention_
>of letting you use the credit card to make a purchase?
>
>That seems very very wrong to me.
>
>Steve
I have been using Paypal for over 10 years as well...and they have
never asked me for my credit card info. I have never had any
problems with them whatsoever.
Christine
sf
<arti...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I have been using Paypal for over 10 years as well...and they have
> never asked me for my credit card info. I have never had any
> problems with them whatsoever.
You haven't recently tried to set up an account like Steve did.
pltrgyst
<PLu...@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus> wrote:
>Looking at the screenshots, it virtually looks the same as Firefox and
>Thunderbird :-)
Ah, yes, but Seamonkey includes an HTML editor and publisher, which afaik no
other browser does. That's why I stick with it.
-- Larry
Michel Boucher
news:7knmr5pr6nvm7me1n...@4ax.com:
>>Still, is it not unreasaonble (and possibly, illegal) for a vendor
>>to ask for your credit card information when they have _no intention_
>>of letting you use the credit card to make a purchase?
>>
>>That seems very very wrong to me.
>
> I have been using Paypal for over 10 years as well...and they have
> never asked me for my credit card info. I have never had any
> problems with them whatsoever.
Same here. I use my credit card with Paypal and Paypal transfers the money
to the sellers, giving them my address (for shipping) but no personal
account info. I am wary of giving my credit card info to just anyone but
have no problems dealing through Paypal and this since February 2002 (I
just checked my archives).
Paypal also allows you to rescind a payment and they have a negotiations
centre, should things fall by the wayside. Credit card companies don't.
--
"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."
Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005
Jean B.
> In article <81vbe4...@mid.individual.net>, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> Windows Live Mail will probably be just fine for you. There is
>>>> Thunderbird
>>>> which will do the job, too.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>> What browser do you use now? What did you use in the past?
>
> Odds are, I will just continue using the mac for usenet. This computer
> won't be retired as I also use it for graphics using Photoshop CS.
> Right now I'm just web-browsing and using g-mail on the new PC as it's
> SO much faster for regular website internet access.
>> I
>> started with Netscape, then used Firefox as my browser and
>> Thunderbird for newsgroups (I use Eudora for email). But now I
>> use Seamonkey. If you or anyone is an oldtime Netscape user, from
>> the days when Netscape was a suite, you will find to be most like it.
>>
>> Jean B.
>
> I gave up Netscape long ago. It's ruined more than one hard drive. :-(
>
> I use firefox on both the mac and the PC for web browsing and g-mail.
> The PC does not yet have a newsreader unless I want to use googlegroups,
> which I don't. Not the least of which GG does not carry binaries.
>
> I'm still weighing my options. :-) Question is, the mac is perfectly
> functional with MT newswatcher for usenet. Do I really want to turn my
> business machine into a toy, other than installing that PC flame fractal
> program I've been lusting after that is not made for a mac? <g>
>
> The program name is "Apophysis". Odds are, I WILL install that program
> on the new toy, if it is compatible with Windows 7:
>
> <http://www.arcanefractals.com/>
Netscape ruined hard drives? Do tell. Anyway, SeaMonkey is an
offshoot of Netscape, as are Firefox and Thunderbird. All from
Mozilla.
--
Jean B.