The piggies must be slopped

[Bryan Simmons]

https://www.mccormick.com/frenchs/recipes/salads-sides/frenchs-green-bean-casserole

It's a tradition! T minus eight days.

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm thankful that "tradition" was never adopted by my family. In any event,
it would have taken up valuable table space needed for the mashed rutabagas.

Cindy Hamilton

[US Janet]

I've never eaten or made the green bean casserole. I thought I would
do that this year for us for T Day. If I can get a whole chicken this
week I will roast that, maybe spatchcock it. I can do a little
stuffing with stuff I have in the house. And that's it for T Day.

We're invited the day after for leftovers at my ex's house. Now
that all the boys are grown and some have wives and babies it has
gotten too big to have everyone in one place on T day. My daughter
and her two boys will be there (airlines permitting)
I think I'll make the Orange Jello, a loaf of Honey Rye Flake bread
and some Brookies to take over for leftover day.

Janet US

[Michael Trew]

Someone posted a home made version of the casserole, with NO canned soup
and fresh beans. I did save it, and I think I'll try it this year.

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's still a casserole and I'm still not interested.

Roasted green beans are more my style.

<https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/229349/roasted-green-beans/>

I've also been meaning to try these:

<https://www.seriouseats.com/sichuan-dry-fried-green-bean-broiled-food-lab-recipe>

Cindy Hamilton

[Thomas]

Ruta is top of the list.

[GM]

Yup, Ruta Lee is pretty great, did some cool acting in the day...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 6:27:27 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>
> Yup, Ruta Lee is pretty great, did some cool acting in the day...
>
> --
> GM
>

How old is she now? 110?

[GM]

86!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruta_Lee

Interesting:

In 1964, Lee called then-Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, asking him to pardon her grandmother
Ludvise Kamandulis,who had been in an internment camp in Siberia since World War II. The pardon
was granted, and Lee's grandmother came to live with her in California in 1964. Kamandulis died two years later. Lee again rescued a relative from the former Soviet Union when she secured custody of her 18-year-old cousin,
Maryte Kaseta, from Lithuania in 1987...

On August 24, 2013, Lee was inducted into the National Lithuanian American Hall of Fame.

In February 2019, Lee had her Lithuanian citizenship restored...

Ruta Lee (born Ruta Mary Kilmonis; May 30, 1935) is a Canadian-American actress and dancer of Lithuanian descent who appeared as one of the brides in the musical Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. She had roles in films including Billy Wilder's crime drama Witness for the Prosecution and Stanley Donen's musical comedy Funny Face and also is remembered for her guest appearance in a 1963 episode of Rod Serling's sci-fi series The Twilight Zone called "A Short Drink from a Certain Fountain"...

[Michael Trew]

On 11/18/2021 4:57, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:47:39 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> Someone posted a home made version of the casserole, with NO canned soup
>> and fresh beans. I did save it, and I think I'll try it this year.
>
> It's still a casserole and I'm still not interested.

Normally I'd agree, but it just seems fitting this time of year.

> Roasted green beans are more my style.
>
> <https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/229349/roasted-green-beans/>
>
> I've also been meaning to try these:
>
> <https://www.seriouseats.com/sichuan-dry-fried-green-bean-broiled-food-lab-recipe>

Those look really good!

> Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

My daughter made a casserole for Thanksgiving once. It had potatoes, sweet potatoes. stuffing, Brussel sprouts, and turkey. It was pretty good.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/TEFYzSdkPiu6LVD76
https://photos.app.goo.gl/em6oWRvWQ3tUFCv66

[dsi1]

Stir fried green beans are alright with me. My son makes green bean casserole. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1PvZthse18n5g2bC9

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 2:22:04 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/18/2021 4:57, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:47:39 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> >> Someone posted a home made version of the casserole, with NO canned soup
> >> and fresh beans. I did save it, and I think I'll try it this year.
> >
> > It's still a casserole and I'm still not interested.
> Normally I'd agree, but it just seems fitting this time of year.

I really only eat three things that could be called a casserole:

Scalloped potatoes
Turkey/chicken Divan
Breakfast casserole

Divan for the sake of my husband, because he ate it when he was
a kid and still enjoys it. It involves Campbell's soup and he'll accept no
substitute.

Breakfast casserole for similar reasons. And only at Christmas time.

Cindy Hamilton

[US Janet]

A breakfast casserole covers hundreds of possibilities. What do you
put in yours? Is it sweet or savory?
Janet US

[Cindy Hamilton]

Something like this, although we use Velveeta and Gruyere instead
of Cheddar:

<https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/9247/christmas-breakfast-sausage-casserole/>

Cindy Hamilton

[US Janet]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:03:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

Very similar to one I make. I add mushrooms and broccoli as well.
Makes a nice supper
Janet US

[Michael Trew]

Yes, my family always does a breakfast casserole, usually for Christmas
morning. When done right, it's good (but I won't be ready for it until
another year!) Scalloped potatoes are what I make if there's a pot
luck. Made with cheese and bacon, it's very rare that I have anything
left in the crock pot when I take it home.

I had to look up Divan; never heard of it. It sounds good enough for an
occasional quick dinner.

[Michael Trew]

That's also very similar to what we have on Christmas morning.

[Dave Smith]

Our Christmas breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, side bacon and back
bacon and a freshly made coffee cake. There is no more bacon in this
house.

[Michael Trew]

As in you don't eat Bacon any more? I love a good simple coffee cake, I
haven't made that in a long time.

[Dave Smith]

On 2021-11-20 8:31 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/19/2021 20:05, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Our Christmas breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, side bacon and back
>> bacon and a freshly made coffee cake. There is no more bacon in this
>> house.
>
> As in you don't eat Bacon any more?

I am afraid so.

> I love a good simple coffee cake, I
> haven't made that in a long time.

This one is pretty simple. The recipe is from an old Better Homes and
Gardens Junior Cookbook. My son would be devastated if he didn't have
it. Now that he is attached and not coming for Xms breakfast we are no
longer bound to serve it, but we do anyway.

[Jeßus]

And I had to look up Breakfast casserole. Seems similar to Bubble and
Squeek:
https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/potato-recipes/bubble-squeak/
https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/one-pan-bubble-squeak/sq9zv94s

[Cindy Hamilton]

Perhaps, although it's made with bread rather than potatoes. And
no vegetables. And with a custard mixture poured into it before
baking.

Cindy Hamilton

[US Janet]

I wouldn't think so. Below is a recipe for a really basic breakfast
casserole. They are more properly called "STRATA" Look under strata
and you will find a plethora of recipes.
Basic Breakfast Casserole

3 slices
3 slices bread, torn into small pieces
1 lb. sausage, browned
4-8 oz. shredded cheddar (amt. depends on how well you like
cheese
6 eggs
2 c milk
1/4 t. dry mustard
1 t salt

Arrange bread evenly in 9x13 pan. Top with sausage, then cheese. In
medium bowl, beat eggs, then add remaining ingredients and mix well.
Pour over ingredients in pan. Push the cheese below the milk so it
won't burn. Cover and refrigerate. In the morning, bake at 350 for
35-45 minutes (until set, but not over brown). Serve warm.

From there I add mushrooms and broccoli or chopped spinach. Or green
chilies. It is a dinner at my house.

Or you can make them sweet by using some sort of sweet stale bread
(raisin bread etc) Add fruit as you like. Probably sweeten the
milk/eggs. I've never made one but that is the basic. There are
dozens of recipes on the 'Net

NOTE: I bake until the center of the casserole domes a bit. I've
found that is a decent test for doneness.

Janet US

[Michael Trew]

On 11/20/2021 20:50, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-11-20 8:31 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/19/2021 20:05, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> Our Christmas breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, side bacon and back
>>> bacon and a freshly made coffee cake. There is no more bacon in this
>>> house.
>>
>> As in you don't eat Bacon any more?
>
> I am afraid so.

Presumably for dietary reasons. I don't see why you couldn't have a
slice or two maybe once or twice per year either way; won't kill you.

>> I love a good simple coffee cake, I haven't made that in a long time.
>
> This one is pretty simple. The recipe is from an old Better Homes and
> Gardens Junior Cookbook. My son would be devastated if he didn't have
> it. Now that he is attached and not coming for Xms breakfast we are no
> longer bound to serve it, but we do anyway.

"Junior cook book" ... is that like a "girls first cook book" type of
deal? I have a pre-WW2 Better Homes/Gardens cook book that I
reguarlarly use. Some of the recipes aren't great, but it's a good
guide. I really like the style of chili in the book, and I'm pretty
sure that there's a simple coffee cake recipe in there.

[jmcquown]

On 11/21/2021 5:57 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/20/2021 20:50, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-11-20 8:31 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2021 20:05, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Our Christmas breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, side bacon and back
>>>> bacon and a freshly made coffee cake. There is no more bacon in this
>>>> house.
>>>
>>> As in you don't eat Bacon any more?
>>
>> I am afraid so.
>
> Presumably for dietary reasons.  I don't see why you couldn't have a
> slice or two maybe once or twice per year either way; won't kill you.
>

I'm sure Dave is the best judge of that. He's had bypass surgery and
was recently diagnosed with congestive heart failure.

>>> I love a good simple coffee cake, I haven't made that in a long time.
>>
>> This one is pretty simple. The recipe is from an old Better Homes and
>> Gardens Junior Cookbook. My son would be devastated if he didn't have
>> it. Now that he is attached and not coming for Xms breakfast we are no
>> longer bound to serve it, but we do anyway.
>
> "Junior cook book" ... is that like a "girls first cook book" type of
> deal?

Why do you assume it's for "girls"? It's a cookbook written for kids
between the ages of 5-12. IOW, not complicated recipes. Coffee cake
isn't complicated but it's not something I would bother to make,
Christmas or not.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2021-11-21 5:57 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/20/2021 20:50, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-11-20 8:31 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2021 20:05, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Our Christmas breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, side bacon and back
>>>> bacon and a freshly made coffee cake. There is no more bacon in this
>>>> house.
>>>
>>> As in you don't eat Bacon any more?
>>
>> I am afraid so.
>
> Presumably for dietary reasons.  I don't see why you couldn't have a
> slice or two maybe once or twice per year either way; won't kill you.
>

It is for health reasons. It is the salt and fat. The only reason I
can see not to have it once or twice a year is that I will be reminded
how much I like it and eat it more often.

>
> "Junior cook book" ... is that like a "girls first cook book" type of
> deal?  I have a pre-WW2 Better Homes/Gardens cook book that I
> reguarlarly use.  Some of the recipes aren't great, but it's a good
> guide.  I really like the style of chili in the book, and I'm pretty
> sure that there's a simple coffee cake recipe in there.

Let's not call it a girl's first cookbook because we bought it for our
son when he was quite young.

[Dave Smith]

The odd thing is that, while aimed at children learning to cook, I had
some difficulties following the instructions. They had strange ways of
doing things, though, in some cases, strange may just mean different
from what I was used to doing.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 18:13:15 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 11/21/2021 5:57 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/20/2021 20:50, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I am afraid so.
>>
>> Presumably for dietary reasons.  I don't see why you couldn't have a
>> slice or two maybe once or twice per year either way; won't kill you.
>>
>I'm sure Dave is the best judge of that. He's had bypass surgery and
>was recently diagnosed with congestive heart failure.
>
>>>> I love a good simple coffee cake, I haven't made that in a long time.
>>>
>>> This one is pretty simple. The recipe is from an old Better Homes and
>>> Gardens Junior Cookbook. My son would be devastated if he didn't have
>>> it. Now that he is attached and not coming for Xms breakfast we are no
>>> longer bound to serve it, but we do anyway.
>>
>> "Junior cook book" ... is that like a "girls first cook book" type of
>> deal?
>
>Why do you assume it's for "girls"?

Boys didn't cook in the 50s. Unless they were gay. Closet gay, of
course.

[US Janet]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 18:13:15 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I sent a mpre recemt edotopm tp my grandsons when they were in that
age group. Cooking and baking in their wheelhouse.
Janet US

[Michael Trew]

In the era that it came from, it was unlikely to be intended for a boys
gift. I've seen lots of domestic/household child's toys from the era
that were basically marketed as "girls first", or something to that
extent (clearly marketed towards females). Of course, people consider
that sexist these days.

[Michael Trew]

I was always more interested in cooking and baking. My step great
grandmother gave me a new Joy Of Cooking book (the 2006 edition) when I
was 13 or so years old. I still have it, and it has the card that she
gave me with it under the front cover (she probably passed away at least
8 years ago).

[US Janet]

shop class for boys and home ec. for girls handicaps children as
adults. Projects around the house and knowing how to cook are
important skills for everyone.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

I agree. When I was in the 8th grade 'home ec' was mandatory. The
school was still under construction. There was no equipment of any kind
in the home ec classroom. No Home Economics books! Just tables and
chairs. We treated it like study hall. Naturally everyone passed the
course. LOL (I have no idea of the shop class had any sort of equipment.)

Jill

[Michael Trew]

I agree.

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 11:28:48 AM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:

Heck with all that. I just nuke fully cooked sausage patties from the local grocery and put them in dinner rolls. Toasted, they make pretty good sliders with grits and eggs.

[Bryan Simmons]

Agreed. No gender segregation, and basic life skills are more important
for most kids than college prep courses.
>
> Janet US

--Bryan

[Gary]

bruce bowser wrote:
> Heck with all that. I just nuke fully cooked sausage patties from the local grocery and put them in dinner rolls. Toasted, they make pretty good sliders with grits and eggs.

So true. I used to buy the frozen sausages all the time and they were
good. Banquet is the brand, I think. Cheap and so much easier than
cooking raw sausage. I'll have to look for them again. They come in
patties or links.