Apple Substitute

[Thierry Gerbault]

Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.

TIA

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Computer - A device designed to speed and automate errors.

[Elaine Goldberg]

Thierry wrote:

>Can anyone suggest a good US apple
> substitute for the UK Bramley apple? I'm
> particularly interested in its use in
> mincemeat.

My all-time favourite cooking apple is the Jonathan. Unfortunately,
it's only available for a month or two in the fall.

I'll be very interested in reading all the answers to your request.

Elaine

[Thierry Gerbault]

ElaineF...@webtv.net (Elaine Goldberg) wrote in news:29506-3E5B2D8B-
7...@storefull-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net:

Thank you, Elaine. Yes, the responses should be interesting. Does the
Jonathan hold its texture when cooked? I've not used it before.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Insert funny but obscure remark here.

[Arri London]

Thierry Gerbault wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
> I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Regards, Thierry...
>
>

Haven't run into anything equivalent to a Bramley here in
the US yet.

This site should give you enough information to choose a
substitute:
http://www.bramleyapples.co.uk/

[bill frogg]

You might get in touch with the Slow Food organisation; they had an
apple growers network a year or so back aimed at preserving from
extinction and marketing lesser known apple varieties in the US.
froglett
In article <3E5B849B...@ic.ac.uk>, Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk>
wrote:

[Thierry Gerbault]

Pat Meadows <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in
news:hbtm5vcq3a1j90flp...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:26:54 GMT, Thierry Gerbault
> <Thierry...@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
>>I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.
>>
>

> I've never had a Bramley although my husband (a Brit) says
> they're very good and used for baked apples a lot. They're
> apparently a very LARGE apple, from what he says.
>
> For cooking, I like Stayman Winesaps best - they hold their
> shape pretty well and have a good flavor.
>
> Pat

Thanks, Pat. I've seen these at one of our supermarkets, although they
don't seem to be as plentiful as they used to be. We don't get a huge
variety of apples here in AZ. I'll keep a lookout.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant

[Thierry Gerbault]

Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in news:3E5B849B...@ic.ac.uk:

Thanks, Arri... Interesting site. From the chart, it appears that the
Braeburn might be the closest substitute and they are abundant in our
supermarkets here in AZ.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Serial killer strikes! Mouse and modem found dead.

[Thierry Gerbault]

It would be very interesting to see if anyone has brought the Bramley
over to the US. Thank you!

bill frogg <frog...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:250220030809229399%frog...@mindspring.com:

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Never hit a man with glasses. Use your fist!

[Judy and Dave G]

"Thierry Gerbault" <Thierry...@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote in message
news:Xns932DEBB52817Th...@204.127.36.1...

> Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
> I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Regards, Thierry...

Thierry:

I have found that the best apple filling has to be a mixture. You need to
get the flavor, texture and sweet/sour of more than one variety. I love
Northern Spy, Lodi, and Mutsu for baking, but they only come at the apple
orchard. So when my only source is the supermarket I always use Granny
Smith, Rome, and Gala. Usually maybe one more Granny Smith, then equal of
Rome and Gala.

Judy

[Arri London]

Thierry Gerbault wrote:
>
> Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in news:3E5B849B...@ic.ac.uk:
>
> > Thierry Gerbault wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
> >> I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Thierry...
> >>
> >>
> > Haven't run into anything equivalent to a Bramley here in
> > the US yet.
> >
> > This site should give you enough information to choose a
> > substitute:
> > http://www.bramleyapples.co.uk/
> >
>
> Thanks, Arri... Interesting site. From the chart, it appears that the
> Braeburn might be the closest substitute and they are abundant in our
> supermarkets here in AZ.
>
> --
> Regards, Thierry...
>

Could work. Do miss those whacking huge Bramleys though!

[Elaine Goldberg]

Thierry wrote:

>Thank you, Elaine. Yes, the responses
> should be interesting. Does the
> Jonathan hold its texture when cooked?
> I've not used it before.

I use it mostly for pies. It doesn't stay crisp when cooked, but
doesn't go all mushy like some. It has a soft, smooth texture. It's
juicy and tangy.

Most people have suggested Granny Smiths as a substitute, but for my
taste, there's no comparison. This is why I'm interested in reading the
subsequent posts.

Elaine

[zxcvbob]

Thierry Gerbault wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a good US apple substitute for the UK Bramley apple?
> I'm particularly interested in its use in mincemeat.
>
> TIA

I don't know about Bramley apples. But Golden Delicious is a
suprisingly good cooking apple that is available year-round everywhere
in the US. I don't think they are very good as a fresh eating apple,
but they hold up well to cooking and have a good flavor.

I usually buy a half bushel of hail damaged or drops Honeygold apples
(available locally in the fall) every year for cooking and dehydrating.

Pippin is a classic old fashioned pie apple you might look for.

Best regards,
Bob

[Thierry Gerbault]

"Judy and Dave G" <dubl...@fuse.net> wrote in
news:3e5c0697$0$21301$a04e...@nnrp.fuse.net:

Thanks, Judy. The latter three I can get at my supermarket. To my
knowledge, we have no local apple orchards here in AZ. I can remember in
Ohio one could get a huge variety of apples out in the country.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Eat Healthy, Exercise, and Die Anyway.

[Thierry Gerbault]

Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in news:3E5C0764...@ic.ac.uk:

Arri, have you ever seen Bramleys anywhere in the US?

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- I am Homer of Borg. Prepare to be... ooooh donuts...

[Thierry Gerbault]

ElaineF...@webtv.net (Elaine Goldberg) wrote in

news:15859-3E5...@storefull-2116.public.lawson.webtv.net:

I don't care much for Granny Smiths on their own, although I don't mind
them mixed. I wonder if Jonathans might be a little too soft for
mincemeat. I need the apple to stay in fine dice.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- 'Managing senior programmers is like herding cats.' Dave Platt

[Thierry Gerbault]

zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
news:3E5C3A6E...@charter.net:

I have frequently used Golden Delicious in pies, sometimes mixed with
Rome Beauty, but I think they're both a little too soft for mincemeat.
I had forgotten about Pippin, but it might be just right, perhaps mixed
with Braeburn.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- 'Beer. Now there's a temporary solution.' -- Homer Simpson

[Thierry Gerbault]

pottedme...@ix.netcom.com (dkra) wrote in
news:pottedmeatproduct...@user-2ivfmfc.dialup.mindspring.co
m:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> In article <Xns932DF0401C7A5Th...@204.127.36.1>,
> Thierry Gerbault <Thierry...@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>

>
>> I have frequently used Golden Delicious in pies, sometimes mixed with
>> Rome Beauty, but I think they're both a little too soft for
>> mincemeat. I had forgotten about Pippin, but it might be just right,
>> perhaps mixed with Braeburn.
>

> My latest apple pie (I like to use six big apples per pie) contained
> two apples each of Pippin, Jonagold (I couldn't find Jonathan) and
> Braeburn. It turned out pretty well. :-D
>
> -- dkra
>

That does sound like a tasty combination!

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- The worst whistlers whistle the most.

[Elaine Goldberg]

Thierry wrote:

>I don't care much for Granny Smiths on
> their own, although I don't mind them
> mixed. I wonder if Jonathans might be a
> little too soft for mincemeat. I need the
> apple to stay in fine dice.

I understand what you're wanting, and my guess would be that Jonathans
might be a bit too 'soft' for the mincemeat. They're available in
September and October, so I hope you'll try them in a pie sometime.

Elaine

[Arri London]

No I haven't, in all the years I've lived here on and off.
Haven't seen any trees for sale either in the catalogues
(not that they'd grow here).

[Thierry Gerbault]

ElaineF...@webtv.net (Elaine Goldberg) wrote in news:3778-3E5CAD2F-2
@storefull-2118.public.lawson.webtv.net:

I'd like to. I see more Jonagolds than I do Jonathans, however.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- To err is human. To blame someone else is politics.

[Thierry Gerbault]

Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in news:3E5CCCCA...@ic.ac.uk:

I can't imagine they wouldn't grow here if they're planted in the right
part of the country, but I'm certainly no expert.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- "Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare." Blair Houghton

[Rick & Cyndi]

"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:3E5C3A6E...@charter.net...
:
:

============

I've had great results with the large sized Fuji apples.

Cyndi

[P Haine]

Rick & Cyndi wrote:

If you can find them, try russet or golden russet -- they're flavorful,
fragrant, and hold their shapes well in cooking. They're another
English cider variety, but our local u-pick place has 'em (as do we, if
our dwarf trees ever deign to supply us with fruit, dammit!).
Cheers!
Peg

[Arri London]

I meant in our New Mexico high altitude desert.

[Thierry Gerbault]

Arri London <bio...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in news:3E5D57D...@ic.ac.uk:

Oh, of course. Nor would they grow here in the AZ low desert.

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Never hit a man with glasses. Use your fist!

[Thierry Gerbault]

"Rick & Cyndi" <rncha...@insightbb.com> wrote in news:tt87a.278366
$Ec4.2...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net:

Yes, Fuji's probably would work. I've used them for pies before and like
the results. Thanks, Cyndi!

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Conclusion: the place where you got tired of thinking.

[Thierry Gerbault]

P Haine <ml...@cornell.edu> wrote in news:3E5D1A67...@cornell.edu:

I was able to get russets when I lived in Ohio, but have never seen them
for sale in Arizona. Alas!

--
Regards, Thierry...

Reply to Thierry...@att.net

- Despite the cost of living, it remains popular.

[ahe...@gmail.com]

Hi! I am also trying to find apples for mincemeat, but, my recipe says the apples should turn to pulp. Any suggestions on apple variety?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:16:03 PM UTC-6, ahe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi! I am also trying to find apples for mincemeat, but, my recipe says the apples should turn to pulp. Any suggestions on apple variety?
>
>

Dumb ass. Evidently reading is not your forte.

[leno...@yahoo.com]

I know nothing about Bramley apples, but, while it's too late in the year in northern countries for this, green pumpkin can work quite well! (Laura Ingalls Wilder, in "The Long Winter," tells of how her mother made a pie that way - I suspect the apple-cider vinegar had a lot to do with the flavor, though. The recipe appears in "The Little House Cookbook," but you can use any apple-pie recipe, I suspect.)

Lenona.

[staci...@gmail.com]

I know that this is an older discussion. I figured I'd give my two cents' worth, anyway, just in case someone ends up here looking for the same information.
Bramley apples are called Bramley's Seedlings in the U.S. It's an heirloom variety, so it can be hard to find. Try Googling "apple finder" - there is a website that has an Apple Finder that does just that (I think it's the orangepippen site).

[col...@gmail.com]

You can make a good apple pie from ritz crackers.

[Nancy2]

col, even though this is a 16-year-old question, the question was about a substitute for one kind
of UK-available apple for MINCEMEAT, not PIE!

(I would say a Granny Smith would be most likely to keep its texture/firmness after cooking.)

col, how is your reading comprehension?

N.

[col...@gmail.com]

I can likely read better than most here.

[jmcquown]

In article <f1e78098-e907-4bae...@googlegroups.com>,
col...@gmail.com says...

>
> I can likely read better than most here.
>

That's impressive for a google posting tard
like you.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-20 10:49 a.m., col...@gmail.com wrote:
> I can likely read better than most here.
>

Good for you. Go ahead and keep thinking that.

[penm...@aol.com]

On 20 May 2019 coltwvu wrote:
>
>I can likely read better than most here.

From your posts I'd have slotted you in with the functional
illiterates. I don't remember you ever posting anything useful let
alone on topic.

This is on topic, in a couple three months I'll have lovely crab
apples from this tree I planted, now in blossom:
https://postimg.cc/rdYNjqWT

https://iamcountryside.com/canning-kitchen/reviving-old-crab-apple-recipes/

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 2:38:15 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On 20 May 2019 coltwvu wrote:
> >
> >I can likely read better than most here.
>
> From your posts I'd have slotted you in with the functional
> illiterates. I don't remember you ever posting anything useful let
> alone on topic.
>

Give it a rest.

[Bruce]

Amazing, coming from you.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Mark this day on your calendar; circle it in red.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 20 May 2019 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 20 May 2019 14:20:51 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Give it a rest.
>>
>> Amazing, coming from you.
>>
>Mark this day on your calendar; circle it in red.

Can I quote you in the future?

"Give it a rest" (itsjoannotjoann)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Has anyone on this group EVER stopped you from doing what you want to do?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 20 May 2019 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 6:02:38 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 20 May 2019 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 20 May 2019 14:20:51 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> >> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Give it a rest.
>> >>
>> >> Amazing, coming from you.
>> >>
>> >Mark this day on your calendar; circle it in red.
>>
>> Can I quote you in the future?
>>
>> "Give it a rest" (itsjoannotjoann)
>>
>Has anyone on this group EVER stopped you from doing what you want to do?

Not stopped as in they left me no choice but to do as they said.

[Janet]

In article <48cecc3c-3011-4b1d...@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

Bruce and Ds1 are trolls, Ophelia's foster-idiots.

Janet UK

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 7:31:50 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> Ophelia's foster-idiots.
>
> Janet UK
>

"Foster-idiots" BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA, I love it and will have to remember that
term!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[col...@gmail.com]

I have a professional degree.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-22 7:08 p.m., col...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a professional degree.
>

I have a degree of skepticism.

[penm...@aol.com]

On 22 May 2019 coltwvu wrote:
>
>I have a professional degree.

98.2º anal... as close to normal as you get... same as Kootchie.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Actually, he does have professional degree.