Using expired Mayonnaise
Manda Ruby
away.
How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
Goomba
Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo four
months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
Dave Smith
>
> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo four
> months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank ;-)
Sqwertz
What ever happened to using common sense? Nobody here is going to have the
Magic Answer.
-sw
gloria.p
I took back a case of tomato sauce because it was a month past the
expiration date and the food bank wouldn't take it. We used it for
spaghetti sauce and other cooked meals, no problem.
gloria p
Dimitri
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> It expired on March 22, 2010. I used it today. I am going to throw it
> away.
> How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
I'll bet is does not say "Expiration date" I'll bet it says "Best if used
by"
It's not expired.
Dimitri
Charlotte L. Blackmer
At my FB, sorters and packers are instructed to pitch things past the exp
date. So please check with yours first and possibly save them the
volunteer labor.
Charlotte
--
brooklyn1
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <8diuj6...@mid.individual.net>,
> Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Manda Ruby wrote:
>> > It expired on March 22, 2010. I used it today. I am going to throw it
>> > away.
>> > How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
>>
>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>
>My daughter.
My jar of Hellmans mayo says "Best if used by", there is NO expiration
date. People who are slobs and contaminate the product probably cut
the useable period down to one week or one tuna salad, whichever
occurs first.
Alan S
wrote:
Use-by dates are a great way to find reduced-price maturing cheeses on
the shelf at a time when they are approaching their best ripeness.
I hope the Aussie rules on that never change; I love buying aged
camemberts, bries, blue veins and similar cheeses at half-price or
better because they have to throw them out if they don't sell by
use-by date.
However, I'm not aware of any mayos that improve with age.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d & e; metformin 1500mg
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Privacy On Forums And The Web)
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Cheryl
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We have local singles groups that do volunteer work to do that sort of
thing. I think it could kill romance to save the volunteer work. ;)
Ed Pawlowski
"Goomba" <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8diuj6...@mid.individual.net...
NOW you tell me. I've been getting up at midnight and checking all
foodstuffs for expiration dates. I toss what expired that day.
Sqwertz
But...but... canned goods don't expire. And a month past for canned goods
is still perfectly usable. For somebody who doesn't have anything else.
-sw
Steve B
"Manda Ruby" <manda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:26ec1c92-95b0-404f...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> away.
> How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
My wife and mother-in-law have a saying: "It's been in the refrigerator."
Intimating in some way that the refrigerator is in some way like a pyramid,
protecting things for an eternity. I, on the other hand, consider it a
combination of many things. How long from when the item was purchased until
it was first opened? Was it kept in a pantry or a refrigerator? How many
times was it allowed to sit out and reach room temperature? How much stray
food was allowed into the food, as in the case of mayonnaise and chicken
salad, egg salad, and just pieces of foods that may be contaminants. It's
all an equation.
I have to admit that I have found out that foods will stay "good" longer
than their expiration dates, but with me, I'd just as soon toss it if
there's not much left, and to plan usage so that it doesn't reach that age.
If one is keeping it around that long, they aren't using that much, and that
needs to be evaluated. Some foods change color, and I don't think that
green hot sauce is good once it turns brown.
I have actually gone into the fridge and found items FOUR years out of date,
but then there's that "It's been in the refrigerator" clause.
I have worn out my welcome, making my point repeatedly when anyone asks
about the safety of an out of date food when I just reply, "It's been in the
refrigerator."
And I LOVE the phrase, "I wonder if this is spoiled. Here, YOU taste it."
Ayup, like that's gonna happen.
Now, that doesn't mean that I will consume any out of date food, or use it
in my recipes. What it does mean is that it will disappear the first time
no one is looking.
If you're having foods approaching their expiration dates, you need to
reevaluate how much you use, and adjust accordingly. A trip to the ER can
be thou$and$.
Steve
Manda Ruby
> "Manda Ruby" <manda.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:26ec1c92-95b0-404f...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > It expired on March 22, 2010. I used it today. I am going to throw it
> > away.
> > How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
>
> My wife and mother-in-law have a saying: "It's been in the refrigerator."
>
> Intimating in some way that the refrigerator is in some way like a pyramid,
> protecting things for an eternity. I, on the other hand, consider it a
> combination of many things.
> How long from when the item was purchased until
> it was first opened? Was it kept in a pantry or a refrigerator? How many
> times was it allowed to sit out and reach room temperature? How much stray
> food was allowed into the food, as in the case of mayonnaise and chicken
> salad, egg salad,
Mine comes with a slit in the cap and so I never digged in with a
spoon. It was always immediately put back in the refrigerator.
> and just pieces of foods that may be contaminants. It's
> all an equation.
>
> I have to admit that I have found out that foods will stay "good" longer
> than their expiration dates, but with me, I'd just as soon toss it if
> there's not much left, and to plan usage so that it doesn't reach that age.
> If one is keeping it around that long, they aren't using that much, and that
> needs to be evaluated.
I was using it only when I am in a rush in the morning and get a
sandwich ready for lunch box. Today, I was home but didn't want to
stop writing my report for too long and so the sandwich for lunch
> Some foods change color, and I don't think that
> green hot sauce is good once it turns brown.
>
> I have actually gone into the fridge and found items FOUR years out of date,
> but then there's that "It's been in the refrigerator" clause.
Like Parmesan cheese powder? I don't buy the bottle anymore after I
found out that at Winco's, you can just get it per oz.
Salsa verde and jalapeno in bottle (I use it for pizza) have very long
expiration dates.
>
> I have worn out my welcome, making my point repeatedly when anyone asks
> about the safety of an out of date food when I just reply, "It's been in the
> refrigerator."
>
> And I LOVE the phrase, "I wonder if this is spoiled. Here, YOU taste it."
:)
>
> Ayup, like that's gonna happen.
>
> Now, that doesn't mean that I will consume any out of date food, or use it
> in my recipes. What it does mean is that it will disappear the first time
> no one is looking.
>
> If you're having foods approaching their expiration dates, you need to
> reevaluate how much you use, and adjust accordingly. A trip to the ER can
> be thou$and$.
Thanks. Mayonnaise was bought for emergency use in making quick
sandwich. I'll replace it the next time I go grocery shopping.
>
> Steve
Dan Abel
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
My wife used to be an expert on canned foods, and when they were no
longer good. There was a whole vocabulary. She was a food chemist for
the government for seven years. It depended on the construction of the
cans and what was in them.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
sf
wrote:
> We have local singles groups that do volunteer work to do that sort of
> thing. I think it could kill romance to save the volunteer work. ;)
You're such a *romantic*!
--
Never trust a dog to watch your food.
sf
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <8diuj6...@mid.individual.net>,
> Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Manda Ruby wrote:
> > > It expired on March 22, 2010. I used it today. I am going to throw it
> > > away.
> > > How long will yiu keep after the expiration date?
> >
> > Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>
> My daughter.
Oh gawd. Mine too. Whatta wuss.
sf
> My wife used to be an expert on canned foods, and when they were no
> longer good. There was a whole vocabulary. She was a food chemist for
> the government for seven years. It depended on the construction of the
> cans and what was in them.
Or at least that was what she told you so she could throw them out or
keep them - as she wished. Clever woman! My hat is off to her.
:)
Kalmia
> Use-by dates are a great way to find reduced-price maturing cheeses on
> the shelf at a time when they are approaching their best ripeness.
Hmph. I watched a wedge of 18 dollar a pound Romano at my local packy
for months, but it didn't make it to the exp date. I guess someone
else was watching it too and beat me to the punch.
blake murphy
i'm sure there are liability issues involved (or maybe even only
potentially involved) that food banks don't want to mess with.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
it's been pretty well established here that ms. ruby doesn't care much for
common-sense answers.
your pal,
blake
brooklyn1
>Alan S wrote:
>
>> Use-by dates are a great way to find reduced-price maturing cheeses on
>> the shelf at a time when they are approaching their best ripeness.
>
>Hmph. I watched a wedge of 18 dollar a pound Romano at my local packy
>for months, but it didn't make it to the exp date. I guess someone
>else was watching it too and beat me to the punch.
Once cheeses are cut and wrapped for retail they no longer age/ripen,
they rot/mold.
Charlotte L. Blackmer
blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>
>> In article <NPXco.209588$u21....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>Goomba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>>>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo four
>>>> months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>>>
>>>Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank ;-)
>>
>> At my FB, sorters and packers are instructed to pitch things past the exp
>> date. So please check with yours first and possibly save them the
>> volunteer labor.
>i'm sure there are liability issues involved (or maybe even only
>potentially involved) that food banks don't want to mess with.
Exactly why the FB tells us to pitch it.
Because my phone # is published as a contact for my church, I've
occasionally gotten calls from people about it. I always said "pitch it!"
even before I knew what the FB actually did. I know that some food is
ok past its published date, but it just seems mean.
If I see something that is "coming up", I'll try to use it fast, whether
for myself or the soup kitchen.
Charlotte
--
Nancy Young
> If I see something that is "coming up", I'll try to use it fast,
> whether for myself or the soup kitchen.
You're involved with a soup kitchen? I have a question for you,
if you don't mind.
Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
nancy
Sqwertz
Our food bank has guidelines that say how *far* past the expiration date an
item can be distributed/eaten. Like I mentioned, canned good are rated at
5 years past expiration.
<http://www.austinfoodbank.org/partner/downloads/pantry-operations/guidelinesforperishableandnon.pdf>
Interesting list. They must know Borden milk must be really nasty. I'll
trust their judgment.
-sw
Goomba
> You're involved with a soup kitchen? I have a question for you,
> if you don't mind.
> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize a dollar
> better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
>
> nancy
Some food kitchens purchase bulk items from food banks, so a dollar goes
further there.
Charlotte L. Blackmer
Cash is always useful :). My program serves once a month, we don't have
freezer or a lot of cabinet storage, and we have a particular number, so
unless the food comes at a particular time and is something we can use
for dinner for 140/lunch for 100, it won't help us. I have working
relationships and phone numbers on speed dial for a couple of other
programs so I can send people their way if asked.
Cash also enables programs to buy things like foil that they won't find at
a food bank or likely be able to beg from grocers.
I urge people to give cash not cans whenever possible to our Food Bank
because their wholesale/bulk deals can turn $1 into $6-$7 worth of
groceries - which includes fresh seasonal produce. If it's available to
member agencies at the Food Bank, we get similar savings (as only one
example, the produce is free to us). Our budget increased dramatically
($250 monthly to $400-plus) when we stopped being able to reliably find meat
at the FB. Even when we shop at Costco/Grocery Outlet/Cash and Carry and
use it for "flavoring", buying it for over 200 people costs money.
Charlotte
--
Nunya Bidnits
My understanding is it isn't the food that expires, eventually it's the
cans. Are there instances where food can actually spoil inside a totally
intact, undamaged can? I don't know of any.
MartyB
Nunya Bidnits
That's just silly for them to turn it down unless it was years beyond the
date. The dates on canned goods may be helpful in the context of "best if
used by" but they are bullshit in the context of spoilage. Unopened canned
food has a very long safe shelf life for the most part. IIRC it's the
breakdown of the can material, particularly along the seams that eventually
causes trouble. But a careful iinspection should reveal whether the
integrity of the container has been compromised.
Consider the example of French's prepared mustard. It's not canned but it's
still a fitting example of the best date concept. You don't even have to
refrigerate it due to its acidity level, yet it has a date, but it's still
bearing a "best if used by" date. It also says (at least on the gallon
containers) to refrigerate it for best flavor. But if you open it six months
after the date and then leave it closed up on the counter for a month, it
won't hurt you, it will just taste like cardboard puree. So if a date on a
can doesn't specify whether it's a "best if used by" date, call or email the
manufacturer and ask them.
MartyB
JeanineAlyse
> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
I am interested in the answer as well, thanks for thinking to ask. I
very recently found exactly what I will enjoy when I retire late next
year and no longer have my Marines to feed when I want to cook big. I
went to the grocer's and found our local Food Bank set up with
volunteers apreciatively accepting donations of fresh bought bags of
grocerys just outside the entrance. As I went in with my own short
shopping list, I asked them what they needed most. It was such a
personal reward to allow my cart to fill to overflowing with various
pastas along with several of the largest jars of both Classico and
Barrilla tomato sauces of different seasonings. How fun for me that
trip was, ands I look forward to the next time those precious people
may be there.
...Picky
Nancy Young
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> You're involved with a soup kitchen? I have a question for you,
>> if you don't mind.
>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize a
>> dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
> Some food kitchens purchase bulk items from food banks, so a dollar
> goes further there.
It makes sense to me. I thought surely they have a way of
getting more for whatever amount than I could.
nancy
Nancy Young
> Nancy Young <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>
>>> If I see something that is "coming up", I'll try to use it fast,
>>> whether for myself or the soup kitchen.
>>
>> You're involved with a soup kitchen? I have a question for you,
>> if you don't mind.
>>
>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
>> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
>
> Cash is always useful :). My program serves once a month, we don't
> have freezer or a lot of cabinet storage, and we have a particular
> number, so unless the food comes at a particular time and is
> something we can use
> for dinner for 140/lunch for 100, it won't help us. I have working
> relationships and phone numbers on speed dial for a couple of other
> programs so I can send people their way if asked.
>
> Cash also enables programs to buy things like foil that they won't
> find at a food bank or likely be able to beg from grocers.
>
> I urge people to give cash not cans whenever possible to our Food Bank
> because their wholesale/bulk deals can turn $1 into $6-$7 worth of
> groceries - which includes fresh seasonal produce.
Something I hadn't considered. Very interesting, and thanks.
> If it's
> available to member agencies at the Food Bank, we get similar savings
> (as only one example, the produce is free to us). Our budget
> increased dramatically ($250 monthly to $400-plus) when we stopped
> being able to reliably find meat at the FB. Even when we shop at
> Costco/Grocery Outlet/Cash and Carry and use it for "flavoring",
> buying it for over 200 people costs money.
Yeah, I would guess so. And I'm sure you have more people coming
in than ever. Thanks again.
nancy
Nancy Young
> On Aug 25, 8:54 am, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
>> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
> I am interested in the answer as well, thanks for thinking to ask.
They have so many drives where they collect cans, and I thought it
might be a little bit like Dave's bake sale ... where if he'd just
donated the amount of money he spent on the cake, the charity
would get more.
> I
> very recently found exactly what I will enjoy when I retire late next
> year and no longer have my Marines to feed when I want to cook big.
Yay for the retiring, boo for no more Marines to feed.
> I
> went to the grocer's and found our local Food Bank set up with
> volunteers apreciatively accepting donations of fresh bought bags of
> grocerys just outside the entrance. As I went in with my own short
> shopping list, I asked them what they needed most.
How nice are you.
> It was such a
> personal reward to allow my cart to fill to overflowing with various
> pastas along with several of the largest jars of both Classico and
> Barrilla tomato sauces of different seasonings. How fun for me that
> trip was, ands I look forward to the next time those precious people
> may be there.
You mean they didn't follow you home? (laugh) You must have
made their day.
nancy
brooklyn1
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I see something that is "coming up", I'll try to use it fast,
>>>> whether for myself or the soup kitchen.
>>>
>>> You're involved with a soup kitchen? I have a question for you,
>>> if you don't mind.
>>>
>>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
>>> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
>>
>> Cash is always useful :). My program serves once a month, we don't
>> have freezer or a lot of cabinet storage, and we have a particular
>> number, so unless the food comes at a particular time and is
>> something we can use
>> for dinner for 140/lunch for 100, it won't help us. I have working
>> relationships and phone numbers on speed dial for a couple of other
>> programs so I can send people their way if asked.
>>
>> Cash also enables programs to buy things like foil that they won't
>> find at a food bank or likely be able to beg from grocers.
>>
>> I urge people to give cash not cans whenever possible to our Food Bank
>> because their wholesale/bulk deals can turn $1 into $6-$7 worth of
>> groceries - which includes fresh seasonal produce.
>
>Something I hadn't considered. Very interesting, and thanks.
I don't think it's either/or. One can give cash too but the main
thrust of food drives is to donate those food items one won't use
rather than that they end up in the trash. And few foods have
Expiration dates, typically perishables like dairy and meats that
aren't donated anyway. Best Used By dates are only a guide, those
food items are still perfectly good even with doubling the time. I
usually buy pasta on sale and buy much more than I can use within the
Best Used By date that is about one year... I've eaten pasta that I've
had longer than five years and noticed no difference
Nancy Young
>>> I urge people to give cash not cans whenever possible to our Food
>>> Bank because their wholesale/bulk deals can turn $1 into $6-$7
>>> worth of groceries - which includes fresh seasonal produce.
>>
>> Something I hadn't considered. Very interesting, and thanks.
>
> I don't think it's either/or. One can give cash too but the main
> thrust of food drives is to donate those food items one won't use
> rather than that they end up in the trash.
Absolutely. And I do donate cans of whatever when there's a
food drive at a game or at a store, whatever. But assuming I'm
going to go out and spend X number of dollars for the specific
purpose of a soup kitchen, I wondered if I should skip the shopping
part and just give them the cash.
(laugh) I just had a funny memory. Last year there was a food
drive at a football game and I brought a jar of peanut butter. I
didn't see the collection point and as I got closer to the game,
there were the cops watching to make sure people didn't bring
in booze, I guess. I held up the jar intending to say Where do I
drop this off? and the cop said No thanks.
Cracked me up. He's probably thinking I'm usually just offered
beer!
> And few foods have
> Expiration dates, typically perishables like dairy and meats that
> aren't donated anyway. Best Used By dates are only a guide, those
> food items are still perfectly good even with doubling the time. I
> usually buy pasta on sale and buy much more than I can use within the
> Best Used By date that is about one year... I've eaten pasta that I've
> had longer than five years and noticed no difference.
No question, I'm not saying don't donate food. They wouldn't have
food drives if they didn't want food, and it sure wouldn't go to waste.
nancy
Dora
>
> No question, I'm not saying don't donate food. They wouldn't have
> food drives if they didn't want food, and it sure wouldn't go to
> waste.
> nancy
When I loved, I had a freezer-full of perfectly good frozen food which
would have gone to waste because my dinners are provided here. To my
amazement, the Catholic charities which pick up surplus food here
happily accepted the frozen food. I just hoped they hightailed it
back to their food kitchen.
Dora
Dora
Nancy Young
> "Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
>> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
> The Minnesota Council of Churches sponsors a food drive during the
> month of March -- Minnesota FoodShare. They prefer money because
> they can buy more (wholesale) with the money than you or I can.
>
> My local food shelf likes either. A lot of people get more
> satisfaction out of donating a box of something that putting money in
> an envelope. The 'basic' list that makes up a grocery bag is on the
> recommendation of, I believe, Second Harvest -- a lot of pre-packaged
> stuff and prepared stuff (spaghettios, etc.; Jell-O). When I
> expressed dismay at that I was reminded that the bags are meant to
> supplement, not be the only thing a family might use.
Yeah ... I'd prefer to give less processed food, too. Then I
wonder if all of the people who come in really have a kitchen set
up to make meals and perhaps something they can just heat ...
or not ... might be a good thing.
> One of the biggest needs? Toilet paper.j
That struck me as a little funny as I was thinking of this place
that serves prepared lunches to people, not giving them food to
make themselves. I'm sure the place needs toilet paper, too, but
I'd feel funny bring that in. Heh. Hi, I'm here with a 20 roll pack!
nancy
Nancy Young
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> No question, I'm not saying don't donate food. They wouldn't have
>> food drives if they didn't want food, and it sure wouldn't go to
>> waste.
> When I loved, I had a freezer-full of perfectly good frozen food which
> would have gone to waste because my dinners are provided here. To my
> amazement, the Catholic charities which pick up surplus food here
> happily accepted the frozen food. I just hoped they hightailed it
> back to their food kitchen.
Now, that's surprising! They don't know if your electricity was out
or whatever, or how the food was handled. That's one thing I never
would have considered they'd accept. I know you wouldn't donate
spoiled food, Dora, but you never know with people.
nancy
Dan Abel
"Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Yeah ... I'd prefer to give less processed food, too. Then I
> wonder if all of the people who come in really have a kitchen set
> up to make meals and perhaps something they can just heat ...
> or not ... might be a good thing.
Some people have almost nothing. No kitchen or kitchen privs.
> > One of the biggest needs? Toilet paper.j
>
> That struck me as a little funny as I was thinking of this place
> that serves prepared lunches to people, not giving them food to
> make themselves. I'm sure the place needs toilet paper, too, but
> I'd feel funny bring that in. Heh. Hi, I'm here with a 20 roll pack!
I suspect they'd be pretty happy.
Sqwertz
> No question, I'm not saying don't donate food. They wouldn't have
> food drives if they didn't want food, and it sure wouldn't go to waste.
It's getting to be where every event in Austin requires or gives a discount
for a food bank donation as part or all of the admission cost. Several
events I've been to at the convention/event centers in the last 6 months
have given $1/off admission for 2 cans. Admission to this Sunday's Austin
Hot Sauce Festival is "Three healthy, non-perishable food donations" (or
cold hard cash).
And I'm fresh out of spare cans. But I get admission with my $10 hot sauce
entry (a wing sauce) and they throw in a t-shirt, too.
-sw
Nancy Young
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:24:51 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> No question, I'm not saying don't donate food. They wouldn't have
>> food drives if they didn't want food, and it sure wouldn't go to
>> waste.
>
> It's getting to be where every event in Austin requires or gives a
> discount for a food bank donation as part or all of the admission
> cost. Several events I've been to at the convention/event centers in
> the last 6 months have given $1/off admission for 2 cans. Admission
> to this Sunday's Austin Hot Sauce Festival is "Three healthy,
> non-perishable food donations" (or cold hard cash).
That's cool.
> And I'm fresh out of spare cans. But I get admission with my $10 hot
> sauce entry (a wing sauce) and they throw in a t-shirt, too.
I hope you win. That would be fun.
nancy
sf
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> Consider the example of French's prepared mustard. It's not canned but it's
> still a fitting example of the best date concept. You don't even have to
> refrigerate it due to its acidity level, yet it has a date, but it's still
> bearing a "best if used by" date. It also says (at least on the gallon
> containers) to refrigerate it for best flavor. But if you open it six months
> after the date and then leave it closed up on the counter for a month, it
> won't hurt you, it will just taste like cardboard puree. So if a date on a
> can doesn't specify whether it's a "best if used by" date, call or email the
> manufacturer and ask them.
I had one of those one gallon containers of French's once and kept it
literally for years. Two things happened - it turned from bright
yellow to a light brown that resembled Ball Park mustard and I thought
the flavor improved a lot.
--
Never trust a dog to watch your food.
Nunya Bidnits
Was the lid closed?
;-)
MartyB
Sqwertz
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> And I'm fresh out of spare cans. But I get admission with my $10 hot
>> sauce entry (a wing sauce) and they throw in a t-shirt, too.
>
> I hope you win. That would be fun.
Thanks. If I win I will give the media the recipe - something that is
never been done before.
It's going to be tough to win with a wing sauce the way they sample the
entries. They don't use chicken. They use chips and bread for the most
part. Sometimes they'll grab a small spoonful. But they don't have chicken
wings to dip, that's for sure.
-sw
Sqwertz
> My local food shelf likes either. A lot of people get more satisfaction
> out of donating a box of something that putting money in an envelope.
I'm a lot more optimistic that food, rather then money, will be used wisely
and make it all the way. I don't want to pay administrative salaries.
And even then I've known well-off people who 'volunteer' at food banks and
brought home all sorts of food and non-food items for their own use.
> One of the biggest needs? Toilet paper.
I always thought it ironic that food stamps will buy food, but not toilet
paper.
-sw
Sqwertz
> NOW you tell me. I've been getting up at midnight and checking all
> foodstuffs for expiration dates. I toss what expired that day.
All my food gets scanned and entered into spreadsheet as soon as I unpack
it at home. Then I have a Visual Basic for Applications program that fires
off every morning VIA the Task Scheduler which interfaces to MAPI and my
SMS gateway to email and text me that items need to be removed. Then when
the items are scanned as disposed of, it tweets their removal and posts
them to my Facebook wall.
-sw
sf
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
Lou Decruss
wrote:
>I always thought it ironic that food stamps will buy food, but not toilet
>paper.
Or dish soap and plastic wrap. I think that's pretty silly. You can
buy anything you want from the frozen foods section but you can't go
to the deli and get a much healthier sandwich.
Lou
sf
Yes, unless I was refilling a smaller container. It wasn't
refrigerated, but it was kept in the basement most of the time.
Cheryl
news:7i0zv3cx1ym1$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
LOL! Good one!
(still laughing)
Lou Decruss
wrote:
One of the magazines I mentioned to you in another post had a
refrigerator that would go online and order something you were out of.
This isn't it but it's along these lines. Over the top if you ask
me.
http://cs.nyu.edu/~jml414/ui/assign3/smart_refrig.html
Lou
Sqwertz
You can get a sandwich as long as it's cold. Of course it's probably
cheaper to just buy a couple rolls, a half pound of meat, a couple slices
of cheese, and ask for some mayo/mustard packets.
-sw
Sqwertz
That would be for really obsessive compulsive people who are used to having
mommy at home to cook and clean for them.
-sw
Julie Bove
"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:i53jb9$94e$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> In article <ortf5qtp092p$.d...@sqwertz.com>,
>> Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:14:23 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> Goomba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>>>>>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo
>>>>>> four months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>>>>>
>>>>> Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I took back a case of tomato sauce because it was a month past the
>>>> expiration date and the food bank wouldn't take it. We used it for
>>>> spaghetti sauce and other cooked meals, no problem.
>>>
>>> But...but... canned goods don't expire. And a month past for canned
>>> goods is still perfectly usable. For somebody who doesn't have
>>> anything else.
>>
>> My wife used to be an expert on canned foods, and when they were no
>> longer good. There was a whole vocabulary. She was a food chemist
>> for the government for seven years. It depended on the construction
>> of the cans and what was in them.
>
> My understanding is it isn't the food that expires, eventually it's the
> cans. Are there instances where food can actually spoil inside a totally
> intact, undamaged can? I don't know of any.
The food won't necessarily spoil but it can certainly degrade. Last year I
didn't check the date on a can of tomatoes I bought. It was about a year
past the expiration date. The other can I bought (from the same floor
stack) appeared to be a new one. I opened them both and compared them. The
expired tomatoes were sort of fuzzy looking (not mold, just a fuzzy surface)
and much mushier than the new ones. Of course tomatoes have high acid so
that could be part of it.
jmcquown
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>
>> In article <NPXco.209588$u21....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>Goomba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>>>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo four
>>>> months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>>>
>>>
>>>Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank ;-)
>>
>> date. So please check with yours first and possibly save them the
>> volunteer labor.
>
> Our food bank has guidelines that say how *far* past the expiration date
> an
> item can be distributed/eaten. Like I mentioned, canned good are rated at
> 5 years past expiration.
>
> <http://www.austinfoodbank.org/partner/downloads/pantry-operations/guidelinesforperishableandnon.pdf>
>
> Interesting list. They must know Borden milk must be really nasty. I'll
> trust their judgment.
>
> -sw
>
If, by "Bordon Milk" they mean shelf -stable milk, there's nothing at all
wrong with it. It's milk. It stores (unopened) for months in the pantry,
*unrefrigerated*. It's perfect to have on hand if you're expecting a
hurricane :) Once opened it must be refrigerated, of course. It's not like
canned milk or powdered milk. It's milk.
http://www.diversifiedfoods.com/ShelfStableMilk.htm
Jill
Sqwertz
> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> news:ec44mvxl...@sqwertz.com...
>
>> Interesting list. They must know Borden milk must be really nasty. I'll
>> trust their judgment.
>>
> If, by "Bordon Milk" they mean shelf -stable milk, there's nothing at all
> wrong with it. It's milk.
It looks like they're talking about regular milk from looking at the chart.
Did you look at the chart? It says it's stored at 40F or below.
-sw
jmcquown
>
I looked at the chart. I don't know of any other type of "Bordon Milk"
other than shelf-stabilized, and it certainly doesn't need to be stored in
the refrigerator prior to opening.
I checked the Bordon website and apparently they also sell regular milk. I
don't see that brand in my grocery store. Regular milk obviously goes bad
if you keep it hanging around for 3 weeks ;)
Jill
brooklyn1
>Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>I always thought it ironic that food stamps will buy food, but not toilet
>>paper. Or dish soap and plastic wrap. I think that's pretty silly.
Tawkin' FOOD stamps... you can't eat those. Didja know that in poor
countrys the majority of the populace doesn't use TP, they're POOR
can't afford it... instead they use leaves and/or a wet schmatah. I
bet not many remember when there were no feminine sanitary products...
gals saved old bed linen torn and folded and laundered by hand in a
basin and dried on an indoor line... even the wealthiest because there
was nothing else, and not all that long ago. Most of the planet still
doesn't use TP, feminine sanitary products or disposable diapers...
they use the local creek, river, ocean.
> You can buy anything you want from the frozen foods section but you can't go
>to the deli and get a much healthier sandwich.
What do frozen foods have to do with bologna sandwiches???
Deli sandwiches cost more than twice as much as building ones own.
Deli stamps would equate with restaurant stamps. Lou is annoyed that
he can't get cocaine stamps.
blake murphy
> In article <d13ymwhqte1k.1cu4uoomtiaya$.d...@40tude.net>,
> blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>
>>> In article <NPXco.209588$u21....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>Goomba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>>>>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo four
>>>>> months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>>>>
>>>>Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank ;-)
>>>
>>> At my FB, sorters and packers are instructed to pitch things past the exp
>>> date. So please check with yours first and possibly save them the
>>> volunteer labor.
>
>>i'm sure there are liability issues involved (or maybe even only
>>potentially involved) that food banks don't want to mess with.
>
> Exactly why the FB tells us to pitch it.
>
> Because my phone # is published as a contact for my church, I've
> occasionally gotten calls from people about it. I always said "pitch it!"
> even before I knew what the FB actually did. I know that some food is
> ok past its published date, but it just seems mean.
>
> If I see something that is "coming up", I'll try to use it fast, whether
> for myself or the soup kitchen.
>
> Charlotte
it does seem mean (in the sense of mean-spirited) to give something that
you'd turn up your nose at yourself. on the other hand, old, stale canned
beans might be better than old, stale nothing. so i'm kinda torn.
your pal,
blake
J. Clarke
> Dan Abel<da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> In article<ortf5qtp092p$.d...@sqwertz.com>,
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:14:23 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Goomba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>>>>>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo
>>>>>> four months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>>>>>
>>>>> Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> expiration date and the food bank wouldn't take it. We used it for
>>>> spaghetti sauce and other cooked meals, no problem.
>>>
>>> But...but... canned goods don't expire. And a month past for canned
>>> goods is still perfectly usable. For somebody who doesn't have
>>> anything else.
>>
>> My wife used to be an expert on canned foods, and when they were no
>> longer good. There was a whole vocabulary. She was a food chemist
>> for the government for seven years. It depended on the construction
>> of the cans and what was in them.
>
> My understanding is it isn't the food that expires, eventually it's the
> cans. Are there instances where food can actually spoil inside a totally
If the can somehow didn't get properly sterilized it can. That's why
you toss bulging cans--something's going on inside. In the past 50
years or so I think I've tossed three cans that were bulging and one
that I let get past bulging (big mistake).
J. Clarke
> Goomba wrote:
>>
>> Geesh who obsesses about expiration dates?
>> My food doesn't seem to know how to read a calendar. A jar of mayo
>> four months past a sell by date would be used with nary a blink.
>
>
> Expiry dates are the way I figure what to donate to the food bank ;-)
Actually that's how _stores_ figure what to donate to the food bank.
For the most part they are sell-by dates, not use-by dates.
Nunya Bidnits
J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:
> If the can somehow didn't get properly sterilized it can. That's why
> you toss bulging cans--something's going on inside. In the past 50
> years or so I think I've tossed three cans that were bulging and one
> that I let get past bulging (big mistake).
Yuck! I bet that was an odorous event!
news
"Melba's Jammin'" <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:barbschaller-8853...@news.iphouse.com...
> In article <r1bdo.1210$Hu7.655@hurricane>,
> "Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Is it better to give money rather than food, can they maximize
>> a dollar better than most individuals? I've often wondered.
>>
>> nancy
>
> The Minnesota Council of Churches sponsors a food drive during the month
> of March -- Minnesota FoodShare. They prefer money because they can buy
> more (wholesale) with the money than you or I can.
>
> My local food shelf likes either. A lot of people get more satisfaction
> out of donating a box of something that putting money in an envelope.
> of, I believe, Second Harvest -- a lot of pre-packaged stuff and
> prepared stuff (spaghettios, etc.; Jell-O). When I expressed dismay at
> that I was reminded that the bags are meant to supplement, not be the
> only thing a family might use.
>
> One of the biggest needs? Toilet paper.
I always give cat food.
J. Clarke
I'm still finding globs of black sticky stuff that used to be pineapple
juice.
J. Clarke
Yep. I just want a refrigerator to keep stuff cold. Anything beyond
that and increases the chance that stuff will cease to be cold at an
inopportune moment.
Lou Decruss
wrote:
Tagging the stuff would be a total pain in the ass. I think it would
be a time looser.
Lou