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Christine Dabney

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Jan 9, 2009, 1:46:39 AM1/9/09
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Nancy,

Just saw this on one of the food blogs I read, and I immediately
thought of you. ;)

http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2009/01/epiphany-about-grapefruit.html

The funny thing is, my mother used to do this many eons ago, when I
was growing up. It was a "company" appetizer...and it was very, very
good!! I don't know where she learned this.....

Christine
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Janet Bostwick

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Jan 9, 2009, 7:36:29 AM1/9/09
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Christine Dabney wrote:
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> The funny thing is, my mother used to do this many eons ago, when I
> was growing up. It was a "company" appetizer...and it was very, very
> good!! I don't know where she learned this.....
>
> Christine
> --
Probably learned it from her 7th grade Home Ec. teacher. We learned it as a
part of the end of semester breakfast our class prepared. It could be used
by the hip hostess as an appitizer. It was in magazines of the time as well.
Janet


Nancy Young

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:06:06 AM1/9/09
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Christine Dabney wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> Just saw this on one of the food blogs I read, and I immediately
> thought of you. ;)
>
> http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2009/01/epiphany-about-grapefruit.html
>
> The funny thing is, my mother used to do this many eons ago, when I
> was growing up. It was a "company" appetizer...and it was very, very
> good!! I don't know where she learned this.....

Oh! That was funny from the first line, I am almost ashamed to
say I don't like grapefruit. Grapefruit brulee, that's imaginative.
I might like that.

I was surprised at some point to find out that people still
sprinkled sugar on grapefruit long after childhood. I thought
it was a kid thing. Like sugar on cereal.

Thanks, Chris, that was amusing.

nancy (kinda cringing at the memory of sugar on corn flakes)

George Shirley

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:28:46 AM1/9/09
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I wish y'all would quit talking and posting about grapefruit, it's
driving me crazy. I haven't had a bite of grapefruit, my favorite
citrus, in more than 20 years because it interacts badly with my
cholesterol medication.

(walks away sobbing softly)

George Shirley

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:29:47 AM1/9/09
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I used to work with a fellow who peeled them like an orange and then
salted them before eating. I reckon you can get used to most anything.

Nancy Young

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:54:49 AM1/9/09
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George Shirley wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> I was surprised at some point to find out that people still sprinkled
>> sugar on grapefruit long after childhood. I thought
>> it was a kid thing. Like sugar on cereal.

> I used to work with a fellow who peeled them like an orange and then


> salted them before eating. I reckon you can get used to most anything.

Salt! That's interesting, I might like that. I have eaten
grapefruits in sections like oranges.

nancy (not going to talk about grapefruit any more)

blake murphy

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Jan 9, 2009, 9:27:00 AM1/9/09
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my dad used to put salt on his. he claimed there was some kind of chemical
reaction that made it taste sweet, which i thought was a lot of hooey.

your pal,
blake

ladysailor

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Jan 9, 2009, 9:42:02 AM1/9/09
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On Jan 9, 11:28 pm, George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I wish y'all would quit talking and posting about grapefruit, it's
> driving me crazy. I haven't had a bite of grapefruit, my favorite
> citrus, in more than 20 years because it interacts badly with my
> cholesterol medication.
>
> (walks away sobbing softly)

You and my mom walk together George. She has the Best grapefruit tree
in her back yard and she can't eat them for the same reason. ;-(

Barb
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Nancy2

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:20:33 AM1/9/09
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I sprinkle sugar on my red grapefruit every single morning - can't do
without it, apparently. And I'm older than dirt.

My mom - a farm-raised "modern" woman - also served broiled grapefruit
as an appetizer. When she ate plain grapefruit, though, she'd always
put salt on it. I couldn't ever figure that out ....

N.

Wayne Boatwright

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:40:45 AM1/9/09
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On Fri 09 Jan 2009 06:28:46a, George Shirley told us...

George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take your
cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or after dinner,
that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the morning will not cause a
problem. You might want to check that out.

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flitterbit

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:00:46 AM1/9/09
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I don't use sugar on Ruby Red grapefruit, only white or pink, which imho
need the added sweetness to counter grapefruit's natural bitterness.

Kathleen

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:11:18 AM1/9/09
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Fri 09 Jan 2009 06:28:46a, George Shirley told us...
>
>
>>Christine Dabney wrote:
>>
>>>Nancy,
>>>
>>>Just saw this on one of the food blogs I read, and I immediately
>>>thought of you. ;)
>>>
>>>http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2009/01/epiphany-about-grapefruit.html
>>>
>>>The funny thing is, my mother used to do this many eons ago, when I
>>>was growing up. It was a "company" appetizer...and it was very, very
>>>good!! I don't know where she learned this.....
>>>
>>>Christine
>>
>>I wish y'all would quit talking and posting about grapefruit, it's
>>driving me crazy. I haven't had a bite of grapefruit, my favorite
>>citrus, in more than 20 years because it interacts badly with my
>>cholesterol medication.
>>
>>(walks away sobbing softly)
>>
>
>
> George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take your
> cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or after dinner,
> that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the morning will not cause a
> problem. You might want to check that out.
>

It's all about the routine. Eat the same amount of grapefruit(or
whatever) at the same time of the day and with a little extra bloodwork
your meds can be adjusted to compensate. But you have to be consistent.

Tracy

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:54:37 AM1/9/09
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I love cornflakes and sometimes, just sometimes, I put some sugar on
them for a treat. ;-)
When I was a kid, one of my sisters liked to put sugar on stuff like
fruit loops and sugar pops. That's gross, IMO. She also salted her ham
sandwiches.

-Tracy

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Nancy Young

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:42:14 AM1/9/09
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jan 2009 06:28:46a, George Shirley told us...
>

>> I wish y'all would quit talking and posting about grapefruit, it's


>> driving me crazy. I haven't had a bite of grapefruit, my favorite
>> citrus, in more than 20 years because it interacts badly with my
>> cholesterol medication.

> George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take
> your cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or
> after dinner, that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the
> morning will not cause a problem. You might want to check that out.

That's how I took the broccoli thing that was mentioned, that
you can have your broccoli (with whatever medication), just
you had to have it regularly and the dosage would be
adjusted for those blood levels.

nancy

Nancy Young

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Jan 9, 2009, 1:14:00 PM1/9/09
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aem wrote:

> On Jan 9, 5:06 am, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I was surprised at some point to find out that people still
>> sprinkled sugar on grapefruit long after childhood. I thought
>> it was a kid thing. Like sugar on cereal.
>>
> Not a kid thing, but a change in the grapefruit.

I think it was some artificial sugar commercial, sprinkle
it on your grapefruit! I just thought, maybe you just don't
like grapefruit. Me, I'd rather eat a lemon.

> When we were kids
> grapefruit were much more sour or bitter or whatever is the right
> word.

I vote for bitter. Sour doesn't bother me that much.

> They are all sweeter now, not just the red and pink ones. Here
> in L.A. you can occasionally spot an old grapefruit tree -- what is
> now downtown had grapefruit orchards way back when -- and I guarantee
> you that a grapefruit from one of those trees would still need sugar.
> There is an old tree in a plaza in Little Tokyo but the tree is way
> too tall, you'd have to climb 30 feet or more up the tree to pick a
> grapefruit.

Heh, yeah, I'd have to be pretty hungry.

I don't really like to hear that grapefruit has changed, but of course
it would have. They tinker with all the fruits and vegetables. I bet
there are people who miss the old grapefruit, just like I miss
pineapple.

Thanks for the story.

nancy

Goomba

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Jan 9, 2009, 1:32:50 PM1/9/09
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Nancy Young wrote:

>> George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take
>> your cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or
>> after dinner, that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the
>> morning will not cause a problem. You might want to check that out.
>
> That's how I took the broccoli thing that was mentioned, that you can
> have your broccoli (with whatever medication), just you had to have it
> regularly and the dosage would be adjusted for those blood levels.
>
> nancy

Grapefruit has the ability to potentiate BP meds among others, which
can make them "more strong" or stronger than desired. You don't want
normally well controlled Granny to have a grapefruit with her morning BP
meds and then get so low she passes out!

I recall they used to advise folks to keep at least a 6-8 hour window
between the grapefruit and the meds. I'm not sure if that is the latest
recommendation though? In my practice I treat your BP with IV meds, and
no ones eating grapefruit products! LOL

Janet Wilder

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:36:35 PM1/9/09
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The company appetizer in our house was half a grapefruit with a
maraschino cherry in the middle. Sugar and honey were available on the
table.

The brown sugar crusted grapefruit was a special breakfast treat.

Janet Wilder

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:48:47 PM1/9/09
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jan 2009 06:28:46a, George Shirley told us...
>
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> Nancy,
>>>
>>> Just saw this on one of the food blogs I read, and I immediately
>>> thought of you. ;)
>>>
>>> http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2009/01/epiphany-about-grapefruit.html
>>>
>>> The funny thing is, my mother used to do this many eons ago, when I
>>> was growing up. It was a "company" appetizer...and it was very, very
>>> good!! I don't know where she learned this.....
>>>
>>> Christine
>> I wish y'all would quit talking and posting about grapefruit, it's
>> driving me crazy. I haven't had a bite of grapefruit, my favorite
>> citrus, in more than 20 years because it interacts badly with my
>> cholesterol medication.
>>
>> (walks away sobbing softly)
>>
>
> George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take your
> cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or after dinner,
> that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the morning will not cause a
> problem. You might want to check that out.
>
I heard that, too. I think it was from one of DH's doctors. He takes his
statin drug at bedtime and the doc told him it was okay to have
grapefruit in the AM. Supposedly (don't quote me on this) the chemical
in grapefruit changes the way the medicine is absorbed, but if it is not
in your stomach, it doesn't interact.

Janet Wilder

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:51:52 PM1/9/09
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I think that's different, Nancy. The broccoli thing has to do with
vitamin 'K' which effects the clotting factor of one's blood. People who
take blood thinners are the ones you are thinking of.

Dan Abel

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:27:21 PM1/9/09
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In article <3hI9l.1612$G24...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


> I used to work with a fellow who peeled them like an orange and then
> salted them before eating. I reckon you can get used to most anything.

When my SIL was pregnant, she would eat whole grapefruit at work. Just
peel and eat (no salt or sugar). She never ate them before pregnancy,
or after. It was funny, because I couldn't help comparing the shape of
the grapefruit with the shape of her abdomen. She looked like she had
swallowed a big one, whole. It was especially odd because of her size,
she weighed 90 pounds before she got pregnant, so a whole grapefruit was
a lot of food.

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Dan Abel

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:41:29 PM1/9/09
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In article <FGK9l.2370$1k1...@newsfe14.iad>,
Kathleen <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> > George, I heard on PBS recently that some doctors believe if you take your
> > cholesterol medication (I'm assuming a statin drug) with or after dinner,
> > that eating a normal portion of grapefruit in the morning will not cause a
> > problem. You might want to check that out.
> >
>
> It's all about the routine. Eat the same amount of grapefruit(or
> whatever) at the same time of the day and with a little extra bloodwork
> your meds can be adjusted to compensate. But you have to be consistent.

That may be true, but sounds like dangerous advice. We had a thread on
this group before about blood thinners, and that is definitely the
advice for that. I don't know if "a little extra bloodwork" is a
concept for statins. Note that there are other drugs that have
interactions with grapefruit. And there isn't a "whatever", the effect
is only true for grapefruit, not even any other citrus.

Do not try this at home, the effects can be fatal.

Statins:

http://cholesterol.about.com/od/statindrugs/a/grapefruitstat.htm

Other drugs:

http://bipolar.about.com/od/medications/f/faq_grapefruitj.htm

George Shirley

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:44:07 PM1/9/09
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My cardiologist tells me no grapefruit or grapefruit juice, period.
After two heart attacks, a boat load of minor and four major strokes,
I'm listening, finally.

Wayne Boatwright

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:38:48 PM1/9/09
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On Fri 09 Jan 2009 08:44:07p, George Shirley told us...

You are "special", George. We can't afford to have you consuming
grapefruit under any circumstances. There are some people taking statins
that I would gladly force-feed grapefruit to.

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Jan 10, 2009, 4:59:34 AM1/10/09
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

"It's not a grapefruit, it's a giant, slightly anemic blood orange.
Have some."

George Shirley

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Jan 10, 2009, 9:23:45 AM1/10/09
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I'm a southerner Wayne, calling a southerner "special" is closely akin
to calling him the "village idiot." <VBG>

George Shirley

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Jan 10, 2009, 9:24:33 AM1/10/09
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Offer that person a Ruby Red or a Rio Red, very close to being blood
orange color.

Wayne Boatwright

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On Sat 10 Jan 2009 02:59:34a, Kathleen told us...

hehehe

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Wayne Boatwright

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Jan 10, 2009, 10:41:43 AM1/10/09
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On Sat 10 Jan 2009 07:23:45a, George Shirley told us...

My apologies, George. I should have remembered that. I've been away from
my roots too long. ;-)

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Lynn from Fargo

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Jan 10, 2009, 3:02:40 PM1/10/09
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On Jan 10, 9:41 am, Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwri...@geemail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat 10 Jan 2009 07:23:45a, George Shirley told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> On Fri 09 Jan 2009 08:44:07p, George Shirley told us...
>
> >>> Dan Abel wrote:
> >>>> In article <FGK9l.2370$1k1....@newsfe14.iad>,

So what's the conclusion for the rest of us? No grapefruit? Fake
grapefruit (Crystal Light ruby red artificial flavor)? Lipitor at
night grapefruit in the morning?
Enquiring minds need to know.

Lynn in Fargo
Cheats with juice once in a while . . .

David Harmon

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Jan 12, 2009, 12:14:58 PM1/12/09
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:44:07 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, George Shirley
<gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote,

>My cardiologist tells me no grapefruit or grapefruit juice, period.

Not so well known, but that also should include pomegranates.

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