Wall oven: 27" vs 30"
Mitch
oven. If we get the 27", it will fit right into our existing
cabinetry. A 30" would require a new custom cabinet.
The saleswoman at the local GE Profile dealer says she strongly
advises against a 27", it's just too small.
I find that hard to believe, but I was wondering if anyone here has
made a similar decision.
The interior oven dimensions are:
30" : 24" x 16 1/4" x 18 1/4"
27" : 21 1/2" x 17" x 18 1/4"
sf
Ignore that sales person. She's upselling. We replaced our existing
double ovens with new 27 inchers several years ago. The cabinet had
to be adjusted a little, but there was no major carpentry required. I
have NEVER even considered a 30 inch oven before or after and my
interior measurements are slightly smaller than what you quoted above.
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"Mitch" <Mitch@...> wrote in message
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full sheet pans are 26" wide. I'd bring one to the store and try sliding it
in and out of each oven.
Mitch
>have NEVER even considered a 30 inch oven before or after and my
>interior measurements are slightly smaller than what you quoted above.
Excellent! Thanks.
I can't wait to upgrade. I'm going with GE Profile oven, cooktop,
hood and microwave, but Bosch for the dishwasher. Everyone I know who
has the Bosch (the $500 unit, not the crazy $1800 one) absolutely
loves it.
sf
We have a bosch dishwasher too.... hidden buttons, but not the most
expensive model. I love how quiet it is. It's just like those old tv
dishwasher commercials said... you *can* stand right next to it, have
a conversation and barely notice it's on. I hear the soft sound of
water sloshing around (I have good hearing), but that's all.
cybercat
<sf> wrote in message news:srq4r2d71b93uarbc...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:12:31 GMT, Mitch <Mitch@...> wrote:
>
>>I'm pretty sure we're going to go with the GE Profile double wall
>>oven. If we get the 27", it will fit right into our existing
>>cabinetry. A 30" would require a new custom cabinet.
>>
>>The saleswoman at the local GE Profile dealer says she strongly
>>advises against a 27", it's just too small.
>>
>>I find that hard to believe, but I was wondering if anyone here has
>>made a similar decision.
>>
>>The interior oven dimensions are:
>>
>>30" : 24" x 16 1/4" x 18 1/4"
>>27" : 21 1/2" x 17" x 18 1/4"
My 1960 GE is about 21" x 16" x 17" and it is not too small for
my purposes. (Has turned out some BIG meals, too.) It is way
too hot, but I just adjust the temp down 50 degrees.
I LOVE wall ovens!! Man, why are there still ovens down
where you have to bend to get into them or see into them!
sf
Mr Libido Incognito
Before you buy take along some pans and see which one will hold enough pans
to cook say a large dinner party or say the family's thanksgiving meal
needs.
If the 27 inch one will.... what's the point of new cabinetry?
Sheldon
One of the major assets of a GE Profile stove is that it's oven is the
largest in the industry... if you don't opt for the full size oven then
you are wasting your money buying the mini Profile... better to get
something else. Those 30" oven dimensions are the same as for a
standard 30" GE Profile stove (I have one). Check your cookware to see
what fits and what won't. Those smaller dimensions I know would be
problematic for me, I've gotten used to the larger oven... that small
amount of space dictates if a roasting pan fits or not, or if two small
pans fit side by side without protuding too far past the rack for
closing the oven door. I'd definitely need that extra 3/4" depth in
order to close the oven door on my pans, and with my larger pans I'd
want that extra side space to fit my mitts in to pull out hot pans more
easily. I agree with the saleswoman, and she's not just saying that to
get you to spend some extra money, I'm sure it's not much difference in
price anyway... and you need to live with that oven for a long time,
I'd spring for the cabinetry, the saleswoman won't make a dime on that.
If a gal were choosing a guy would she not opt for the extra inches...
I know were it me I'd choose the biggest rack possible. hehe
Sheldon
Sheldon
Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> Before you buy take along some pans and see which one will hold enough pans
> to cook say a large dinner party or say the family's thanksgiving meal
> needs.
>
> If the 27 inch one will.... what's the point of new cabinetry?
You also don't want pans to fit without a millimeter to spare so you
need to shoehorn them in, or they'll interfere with the natural oven
convection... why spend big bucks on a top of the line oven if it can't
cook properly. With that smaller model the oven door won't close on my
pizza pan... if I weren't careful and slammed the door I'd be buying a
new oven door window... wouldn't close on my two nedium size Farberware
roasting pans either... I purposely bought them because they fit the GE
Profile oven side by side and still permits the door to close. You'd
be surprised at what an extra 3/4" means, ask your wife. ;)
Sheldon
sf
<shop...@foodsource.eat> wrote:
>We have a GE wall oven. It's very old and came with the house. Still works
>like a charm. It's a 27 incher but it's in the wall with no cabinetry
>around it. I can't fit a lot of my pizza and jelly roll pans in it. OTOH,
Honestly, I don't understand that. My original ovens were circa '60s
GE and they held my 1/2 sheet pans with room to spare.
>if you recall, Steven bought the Maytag stove last year. The oven on it is
>cavernous and I can fit just about anything in it (I don't remember the
>dimensions).
Most kitchens are built to accommodate stove widths of between 30
inches and 36 inches, so your oven is probably 30" wide. For my
purposes, it's ridiculously huge.... even during party times. I
prefer two ovens when I'm doing a lot of cooking and my 27" ovens suit
me just fine.
Of course, the best double oven option (IMO) is a larger oven with a
smaller one in a side by side arrangement but most (all?) of them are
part of stoves, not on the wall. In any case w/o a complete kitchen
remodel which includes a new house, I don't have the wall space to
sacrifice to that configuration and still have a workable kitchen
configuration. My kitchen is large for a house this size and age (80
years), but it's small in comparison to most modern homes.
Sheldon
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
>
> > You also don't want pans to fit without a millimeter to spare so you
> > need to shoehorn them in, or they'll interfere with the natural oven
> > convection... why spend big bucks on a top of the line oven if it
> > can't cook properly. With that smaller model the oven door won't
> > close on my pizza pan... if I weren't careful and slammed the door I'd
> > be buying a new oven door window... wouldn't close on my two nedium
> > size Farberware roasting pans either... I purposely bought them
> > because they fit the GE Profile oven side by side and still permits
> > the door to close. You'd be surprised at what an extra 3/4" means,
> > ask your wife. ;)
>
> like a charm. It's a 27 incher but it's in the wall with no cabinetry
> around it. I can't fit a lot of my pizza and jelly roll pans in it. OTOH,
> cavernous and I can fit just about anything in it (I don't remember the
> dimensions).
>
> down the steps to the basement. When we remodel in April, you can betcha
> I'm having them cut a larger hole in the wall and I'm buying a larger wall
> oven. I love having 2 ovens. It makes the timing for food much easier and
> for parties, having 2 ovens is a Gawdsend.
The GE profile single built-in ovens are a rather costly appliance
(approx. $2,000, list) but there's a very negligible difference in cost
between the normal size and the mini ($200), tawkin' 10%. I wouldn't
even consider the mini... too stingy to spend the few hundred dollars
to redo a cabinet to fit a full size top of the line then may as well
just get some low end cheapster and save a substantial amount. Seems
GE doesn't have many choices for the mini, most chioces are for the
full size. That tells me that GE only carries a mini to fit the
existing space left by older ovens so that those with CCBD can buy
something. I can't fathom the sense in spending so much money for a
single wall oven anyway, but then not to go all the way is just plain
dumb. To me it's truly a no-brainer. Of course those afflicted with
CCBD will always find a way to rationalize... rationalizing is a major
symptom of Chronic Cheap Bastard Disease.
Actaully there are no cheap people, they're greedy.
http://genet.geappliances.com/geasearch/Dispatcher?REQUEST=GETSEARCHRESULT
Sheldon
Janet Puistonen
We had to replace old Thermador wall ovens with new ones a couple of years
ago. We couldn't afford the ones that were the same size as the originals
inside, so had to opt for the smaller. That couple of inches can make a huge
difference. My largest roasting pans and half sheet pans won't fit in the
new ovens, which I believe are the size of the 27" ones you describe. It is
a royal PITA, especially when you want to cook something like a turkey. I
would absolutely go for the larger ones in a heartbeat. I hate those damned
ovens.
Janet Puistonen
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:15:19 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> <shop...@foodsource.eat> wrote:
>
>> We have a GE wall oven. It's very old and came with the house.
>> Still works like a charm. It's a 27 incher but it's in the wall
>> with no cabinetry around it. I can't fit a lot of my pizza and jelly
>> roll pans in it. OTOH,
>
> Honestly, I don't understand that. My original ovens were circa '60s
> GE and they held my 1/2 sheet pans with room to spare.
There is a difference between the inside dimension and the exterior
dimension. Older ovens had less insulation or something, and so had a
comparatively larger inside dimension. If you don't have a full size oven
elsewhere, I would NEVER opt for the smaller oven unless forced to.
sf
My new ovens can still hold my 1/2 sheet pans with room to spare. My
old ovens were self cleaning, the new ones are too. Insulation was
never an issue although IFAIC there is never too much, especially with
dishwashers.
maxine in ri
I just got the GE 30" convection, and my roaster fits fine, the
half-sheets fit, and the height from the low rack to the broiler is the
same as my old oven.
The depth is shallower because of the convection fan, but there still
seems to be at least an inch extra past my widest pan.
For some reason, we will have to replace the circuit breaker for the
oven, since the old one was on a 30-amp, and the new oven requires a
20. And BTW, I paid under $1200 for my oven, with free delivery.
Even lower than the lowest price Froogle came up with, unless you want
to count the auctions on e-bay.
maxine in ri