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Julie Bove

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:59:02 AM2/21/16
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This was a first. I am making baked beans in the Crock Pot and I attempted
to lift the lid to taste for seasonings. But the lid was totally stuck. I
really had to exert force to get it off. This is my newer one. Oval shaped
and the lid is glass with a metal rim.

Gregory Morrow

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Feb 21, 2016, 10:54:15 AM2/21/16
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Yer "lid" has FLIPPED...

Janet B

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Feb 21, 2016, 2:17:08 PM2/21/16
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Just drape a hot washcloth over the lid. That will equalize the
pressure and the lid will come up easily.
Janet US

Julie Bove

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:14:23 PM2/21/16
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> So much drama, so little time.
>
> Are you going to return it? Or at least write them a strongly-worded
> letter and maybe they'll send you a new one with a tiny hole drilled
> in the lid.
>
> Either way, make sure to let us know what happens.

I did get it off. As I said, I had to exert a lot of force. I only posted
this because we were recently discussing the beef roast and the difference
between cooking in a Crock Pot and the oven. As you can see, the Crock does
have a very good seal to the lid.

Julie Bove

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:15:29 PM2/21/16
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"Janet B" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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I got the lid off. I only posted because of the recent beef roast thing
posted by...W? I think. To show that indeed the Crock does have a very
strong seal to the lid.

Janet B

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:24:57 PM2/21/16
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:15:18 -0800, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Janet B" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 01:58:49 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>This was a first. I am making baked beans in the Crock Pot and I
>>>attempted
>>>to lift the lid to taste for seasonings. But the lid was totally stuck.
>>>I
>>>really had to exert force to get it off. This is my newer one. Oval
>>>shaped
>>>and the lid is glass with a metal rim.
>>
>> Just drape a hot washcloth over the lid. That will equalize the
>> pressure and the lid will come up easily.
>> Janet US
>
>I got the lid off. I only posted because of the recent beef roast thing
>posted by...W? I think. To show that indeed the Crock does have a very
>strong seal to the lid.

It has nothing to do with the fit of the crock pot lid. A vacuum has
been created and the way to break the vacuum is what I told you. I've
copied a paragraph from the 'Net so that you can see what I say is
true. It can happen to "any" lid on any pot.

"Fixing a Vacuum-Sealed Lid
Once you realize your lid is stuck, remove the pot from the heat
source. Continuing to cook with a stuck lid will only reinforce the
vacuum, as it is a result of the difference in temperature inside and
outside the pot. Too strong a vacuum can warp some lids and pans. Try
removing the lid by hand, wearing oven gloves to protect from the
heat. If this does not work, place a steaming hot towel on the lid for
a couple of minutes to raise the outer temperature. Try removing the
lid again. Repeat as necessary until the lid comes off."

Janet US

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:48:06 PM2/21/16
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On 2/21/2016 3:24 PM, Janet B wrote:

> It has nothing to do with the fit of the crock pot lid. A vacuum has
> been created and the way to break the vacuum is what I told you. I've
> copied a paragraph from the 'Net so that you can see what I say is
> true. It can happen to "any" lid on any pot.
>
> "Fixing a Vacuum-Sealed Lid
> Once you realize your lid is stuck, remove the pot from the heat
> source. Continuing to cook with a stuck lid will only reinforce the
> vacuum, as it is a result of the difference in temperature inside and
> outside the pot. Too strong a vacuum can warp some lids and pans. Try
> removing the lid by hand, wearing oven gloves to protect from the
> heat. If this does not work, place a steaming hot towel on the lid for
> a couple of minutes to raise the outer temperature. Try removing the
> lid again. Repeat as necessary until the lid comes off."
>
> Janet US
>

This is kind of funny. It was mentioned that some people were getting
pressure from steam as the pot cooked. This article is suggesting that
cooking will create a vacuum. The physics are not adding up unless the
pot is cooling.

Paul M. Cook

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:58:01 PM2/21/16
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"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
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I was about to type that. A heated pot with a liquid will form steam
pressure which will blow the lid *off* if it has no release. Cooling down
it would form a vacuum as less dense hot air contracts. You'd need a
perfect seal, however.

Think canning jars.



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Doris Night

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:00:10 PM2/21/16
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I was thinking it was stuck because some baked bean juice got around
the rim of the crock.

Doris

Paul M. Cook

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:23:29 PM2/21/16
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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Heat makes steam which creates pressure which would force the lid *off* not
seal it down. You in fact have an imperfect seal which allowed steam and
bean juices to escape sealing the lid when it got baked on. If you like I
can post a paper on thermodynamics and fluid pressure equilibrium. The laws
of physics exist in your crackpot .. I mean crockpot.

Jeßus

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:36:14 PM2/21/16
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:23:22 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
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You're forgetting the 'Bothell factor'.
Somebody really needs to do a wiki on that one.

Paul M. Cook

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:52:04 PM2/21/16
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"Jeßus" <j...@j.invalid> wrote in message
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I didn't forget - I never heard of it. And Google yields nothing except for
a youth social club in Washington.

Dave Smith

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Feb 21, 2016, 5:34:34 PM2/21/16
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On 2016-02-21 3:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> This is kind of funny. It was mentioned that some people were getting
> pressure from steam as the pot cooked. This article is suggesting that
> cooking will create a vacuum. The physics are not adding up unless the
> pot is cooling.


That one had me scratching my head. I could not figure how heating
something up was creating a vacuum. My experience and schooling tells me
that cooking it increases volume and pressure, and that they vacuum
would happen when the cooling happened. However, it happened in the
world of Bove, so all bets are off.

Brooklyn1

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Feb 21, 2016, 5:42:05 PM2/21/16
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I was thinking yet another Bove Troll. Crock pots do not produce any
steam, they produce water vapor. The only way any pot lid will seal
to the pot is as it cools and only if it makes a good seal, the Bove
obviously let the crock pot cool to room temperature and likely let it
sit at room temperature for many hours, and that it sealed means there
was probably a lot of greasy schmutz around the rim... a lot of slobs
don't bother washing a pot if they will use it again later in the
week. From reading the Bove's posts I doubt she exerts any effort at
all with anything, I imagine she never cleans anything including
herself, her abode is likely far filthier than a pig sty.

Julie Bove

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Feb 21, 2016, 6:18:52 PM2/21/16
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"Doris Night" <goodnig...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Nope.

John Kuthe

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Feb 21, 2016, 8:56:15 PM2/21/16
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Yep, I just recently got a new gasket for my Mirro pressure cooker and it is so cool!
I have a big ole Mirro pressure cooker/canner and I just got a new gasket for it. It's 38 years old (gawd I'm that old!) and the old gasket was badly dried out and shrunk. I got a new gasket and it fit perfectly!

John Kuthe...

jmcquown

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Feb 21, 2016, 9:38:11 PM2/21/16
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On 2/21/2016 9:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:23:22 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>> news:nad5l5$8u2$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>>> I did get it off. As I said, I had to exert a lot of force.

Obviously she doesn't know how to use a crockpot.

>>> I only
>>> posted this because we were recently discussing the beef roast and the
>>> difference between cooking in a Crock Pot and the oven. As you can see,
>>> the Crock does have a very good seal to the lid.
>
Not that good! How on earth do you do this stuff?

> The laws of thermodynamics, as we know them, do not apply on
> Planet Bove.
>
> -sw
>
Never once has the glass lid on my crockpot gotten stuck. The plastic
lid on my *old* crockpot never got stuck, either. It's just another
thing for her to bitch about. (Just wait for everyone who loves her to
chime up and call us bullies.)

Then again, there's someone on Dataw bitching about new LED lightbulbs
in their chandelier burning out within minutes. I think I might be
living in a similar dimension... queue the Twilight Zone music.

OB Food: had a good burger yesterday. I stopped at the Club on my way
back from running errands and picked it up to go. No pics.

Jill

Julie Bove

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Feb 21, 2016, 10:10:30 PM2/21/16
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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On 2/21/2016 9:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:23:22 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nad5l5$8u2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>>> I did get it off. As I said, I had to exert a lot of force.
>
> Obviously she doesn't know how to use a crockpot.
>
Of course I do.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 21, 2016, 11:18:24 PM2/21/16
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On 2/21/2016 4:36 PM, Je�us wrote:

>
> You're forgetting the 'Bothell factor'.
> Somebody really needs to do a wiki on that one.
>


The Bothell Factor is a movie based on a Stephen King book.

Sqwertz

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Feb 21, 2016, 11:42:28 PM2/21/16
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On 2/21/2016 7:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The laws of thermodynamics, as we know them, do not apply on
> Planet Bove.
>
> -sw

As a PROUD woman-stalker, I know?

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Feb 21, 2016, 11:48:20 PM2/21/16
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On 2/21/2016 10:48 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> So much drama, so little time.

As a PROUD and un-indicted (so far) woman-stalker, I know!!!!

dsi1

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Feb 21, 2016, 11:53:38 PM2/21/16
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My guess is that your lid has a soft neoprene gasket. Most slow cookers won't have this nor do they need it. You probably have one of those cookers with a lid that can be clamped down for easy and safe transport. The gasket provides a leakproof seal when clamped but the top probably has some small vents through it to prevent a build up of pressure when the lid is clamped down. The lid gets stuck because the heat causes the soft gasket to stick to the surface of the container.

Jeßus

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Feb 22, 2016, 12:36:05 AM2/22/16
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:18:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>On 2/21/2016 4:36 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>
>> You're forgetting the 'Bothell factor'.
>> Somebody really needs to do a wiki on that one.
>>
>
>
>The Bothell Factor is a movie based on a Stephen King book.

You made me look it up Ed ;)
I suppose there *could* be a movie in it?

Jeßus

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Feb 22, 2016, 12:38:28 AM2/22/16
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:52:00 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
I was alluding to how Bothell appears to have slipped into something
like a parallel universe, where everything is different there.

Julie Bove

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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It did come with something to clamp it down for transport.

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2016, 6:36:44 AM2/22/16
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Did you start on high and then switch to low before attempting to lift
the lid? A partial vacuum could form when the temperature was reduced,
using water condensed between the lid and crock as a seal.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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Feb 22, 2016, 8:37:39 AM2/22/16
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That might possibly be the case if the ambient temperature was greater
than the temperature inside the Bove's crock pot. I might suggest the
whole story is a crock.

dsi1

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Feb 22, 2016, 11:08:53 AM2/22/16
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On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:59:40 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
Look on the top of the lid, you'll find some vent holes. They are needed because without them, the lid would really get stuck if you turned off the heat and let it the cooker cool down. My suggestion is that you cut off that seal tout suite. That should fix it!

Janet

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Feb 22, 2016, 11:46:57 AM2/22/16
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In article <nad9mo$oos$1...@dont-email.me>, pmc...@gte.net says...
Julie already ordered a whole case of thermodynamics online, for
cheap, but nobody liked the taste and they won't fit in the freezer.

Janet UK

Janet

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Feb 22, 2016, 11:50:44 AM2/22/16
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In article <yv-dnYhjk42QEVfL...@giganews.com>, e...@snet.net
says...
>
> On 2/21/2016 4:36 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
> >
> > You're forgetting the 'Bothell factor'.
> > Somebody really needs to do a wiki on that one.
> >
>
>
> The Bothell Factor is a movie based on a Stephen King book.

Meryl Streep plays Julie.

Janet UK

jmcquown

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Feb 22, 2016, 12:06:10 PM2/22/16
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(laughing) I don't think Meryl would like that role. How about Glenn
Close?

Jill

jinx the minx

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Feb 22, 2016, 12:09:19 PM2/22/16
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I was thinking Kathy Bates.

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Jeßus

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Feb 22, 2016, 12:43:04 PM2/22/16
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:)

I watched Misery again only just recently.

Jeßus

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On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:06:03 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Sissy Spacek?

jinx the minx

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Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:46:49 -0000, Janet wrote:
>
>> Julie already ordered a whole case of thermodynamics online, for
>> cheap, but nobody liked the taste and they won't fit in the freezer.
>
> Besides, they would just thaw in the freezer and freeze in the oven.
> They were probably damaged in shipping.
>
> -sw
>

No matter, she'll just write to the manufacturer or retailer so she'll get
coupons for more. She will then become intolerant to them, but no need to
worry as that will resolve on its own within a month.

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Bruce

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Feb 22, 2016, 1:38:11 PM2/22/16
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I'd know the "perfect" Janet UK:
<https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1091746805/hyacinth_400x400.jpg>

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Ophelia

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"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
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LOL even looks similar :))


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On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:42:51 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
LOL

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Sqwertz

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On 2/22/2016 10:52 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Way too expensive. How about Sissy "space-case" Spacek instead?
>
> -sw

Sqwertz

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On 2/22/2016 10:56 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> - she's played the gullible psycho in a few films.

Sqwertz

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On 2/22/2016 11:00 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> They were probably damaged in shipping.
>

Dave Smith

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Feb 22, 2016, 3:51:53 PM2/22/16
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I was thinking more along the lines of Roseanne Barr.

Julie Bove

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Feb 22, 2016, 6:11:08 PM2/22/16
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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Cindy is in my KF. But yes, I started on high and switched to low. I
almost always cook this way with the Crock. My point is that there was a
very strong seal. No liquid could escape. Of course a little did escape
during the times when I did lift the lid. I did so about 4 times and they
cooked for about 25 hours in total.

Julie Bove

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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There are no vent holes and there is no seal. Just glass and metal.

Julie Bove

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"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
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For sure. "The Bouquet residence. The lady of the house speaking!"

Sqwertz

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On 2/22/2016 12:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I guess the laws of probability still work on Planet
> Bove.

Ed Pawlowski

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On 2/22/2016 8:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>
> That might possibly be the case if the ambient temperature was greater
> than the temperature inside the Bove's crock pot. I might suggest the
> whole story is a crock.
>

My other thought was a tight fit of a lit sitting in a recess. Unlike
materials expand at different rates and it may have swelled around the
lid or vice versa.

Roy

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Feb 22, 2016, 8:42:33 PM2/22/16
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I would guess that nobody on earth cooks beans for 25 hours EXCEPT you Julie. What are you cooking?...petrified beans? Perhaps you might want to take a refresher course in cooking 101...couldn't hurt.
=====

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2016, 8:54:42 PM2/22/16
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And nobody knows her name's really Janet Bucket :)

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Julie Bove

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"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
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Yep.

Julie Bove

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"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
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It was sitting in a recess.

Julie Bove

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"Roy" <wil...@outlook.com> wrote in message
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Actually the person who gave me the recipe told me that they could cook for
a very long period of time. That's the beauty of these and part of the
reason they are so sweet with such a small amount of sweetener in them.
They are not petrified and they are super yummy. Not really saucy though.
They have bacons and 6 onions in them. 3 very large sweet ones that I had
caramelized and 3 smaller white ones that I put in later.

Dave Smith

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Feb 22, 2016, 10:34:27 PM2/22/16
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True.... could happen .... but consider the OP... the crock pot story is
likely a crock, something she will later deny having posted.

Julie Bove

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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Nope. I assure you that it happened.

sf

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Feb 23, 2016, 3:31:57 AM2/23/16
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She probably had spillage on rim, which dried over the cooking time
and welded the lid to the pot. Improbable scenario, I know - but
those things happen to her.

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Julie Bove

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Nope.

Nunya Bidnits

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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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>My other thought was a tight fit of a lit sitting in a recess.
>Unlike materials expand at different rates and it may have
>swelled around the lid or vice versa.

I think it's nothing more than the contents cooling down and
sucking down the lid. You can do that with any tight fitting pot
lid on the stovetop. That's why many of the glass lids have a
small vent hole in them. Professional hot boxes like Cambrios
sometimes have pressure releases because the box can suck itself
shut if sealed while hot inside and allowed to go cold.

Nunya Bidnits

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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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>On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:09:15 -0600, jinx the minx wrote:


>> I was thinking Kathy Bates.

>I was going to say Kathy Bates as well (ala Misery), but like
>Meryl,
>it seemed a like a waste of acting. So went with Sissy Spacek
>instead
>- she's played the gullible psycho in a few films.

>-sw

I was thinking Divine.

Nunya Bidnits

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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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>> I was thinking Divine.

>Downloading "Female Trouble" now...

-sw

Perfect.

Sqwertz

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On 2/23/2016 4:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Downloading "Female Trouble" now...
>
> -sw

Nunya Bidnits

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On 2/23/2016 7:01 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> -sw
>
> Perfect.
For those of you who still think Nunya Shitlips (AKA MartyB in KC) is
some quasi-benevolent troll, submitted from the real world archives of
RFC circa 2011, for your reading pleasure:

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> Post flames are like getting the silver in the Olympics.
>
> Even if you win, you still lose.
>
> I am warning you now for the last time. I am not a snitch. But if you
try to
> email me one more virsus like you did yesterday, you're getting a
visit from
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Nunya Bidnits

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On 2/23/2016 2:15 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> I was thinking Divine.

Nunya Bidnits

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On 2/23/2016 12:30 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> I think it's nothing more
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