Separating coffee filters
Polly Esther
try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a battle
with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were two
stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding and
growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
Sky
Try 'inverting' a small stack of the filters a few times in a row, as if
turning a sweater or T-shirt inside-out then back right-side again.
That might work, but I think it may depend on the the type of filter.
Sky
--
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Dan Abel
"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote:
> Teach me how to separate coffee filters.
> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
I discovered once that I can get one from the stack pretty easily with a
wet finger. So now I make sure my finger is a little wet.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
Steve Pope
> "Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote:
>> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
>I discovered once that I can get one from the stack pretty easily with a
>wet finger. So now I make sure my finger is a little wet.
Toss the entire stack of filters onto the floor, or into a large
cardboard box. They can't ALL stick together. At least one filter
will become separated from its brethren. Use that filter.
Steve
notbob
> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
Be smarter than the filters.
nb
Julie Bove
"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:8tocv...@mid.individual.net...
What kind of filters are they? I don't use them a lot but never had a
problem with them.
sf
It's like separating the sides of plastic vegetable bags, rub them
between your thumb and index finger. If you have to, wet your
fingers.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
pltr...@xhost.org
<Poll...@cableone.net> wrote:
Use a rubber or silicone jar opener (a thin sheet, usually about five
inches square). Just stick one edge of the stuck-together filters
between the folded-over rubber opener, apply pressure in opposite
directions with your fingers, and they'll seperate easily.
- Larry
Brian Christiansen
Same Polly Esther from RCTQ?
Brian Christiansen
Storrmmee
with them cupped in one hand, then rake wand across, and i was shocked to
see it worked, it was one of those stiff roulnd pad things, not a brush, Lee
Nad R
I use a reusable filter and just wash it after use. Seems to work and would
be a lot cheaper in the long run. I have not purchased paper filters in
years. Is there a reason for the paper filters in an office setting?
--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
Catmandy (Sheryl)
> On 2011-03-09, Polly Esther <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> > Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
>
> Be smarter than the filters.
>
> nb
LOL. great minds think alike.
Bryan
> "Storrmmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote:
> > i once was given a fresh new eye shadow want and was told to hold filters
> > with them cupped in one hand, then rake wand across, and i was shocked to
> > see it worked, it was one of those stiff roulnd pad things, not a brush, Lee
> >news:8tocv...@mid.individual.net...
> >> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but
> >> I try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a
> >> battle with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were
> >> two stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding
> >> and growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
> >> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
>
> I use a reusable filter and just wash it after use. Seems to work and would
> be a lot cheaper in the long run. I have not purchased paper filters in
> years. Is there a reason for the paper filters in an office setting?
Yes, there is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2029499
The problem isn't getting them separated, but that doing so usually
messes up one or more pleats, which you have to carefully get folded
back into shape or risk the collapse of the filter, allowing grounds
into the pot. Cone filters don't have that problem, but are
significantly more expensive, and my Mr. Coffee uses the basket type.
>
> --
> Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
--Bryan
Catmandy (Sheryl)
i don't know. This isn't something I've ever even thought about. Maybe
I just go thru so many filters they don't have time to stick together.
This isn't an issue for me at all. The biggest problem I have making
coffee in the morning is being able to focus on the task at hand
before I've had my coffee!
Polly Esther
Polly
"Brian Christiansen" <>
James Silverton
> On 3/8/2011 10:10 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
>> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but
>> I try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a
>> battle with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there
>> were two stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping,
>> sliding and growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
>> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
>
> Try 'inverting' a small stack of the filters a few times in a row, as if
> turning a sweater or T-shirt inside-out then back right-side again. That
> might work, but I think it may depend on the the type of filter.
>
> Sky
>
fingers but, what is the problem if you pull out two? Apart from
wastefulness, of course, two seem to work as well as one.
--
James Silverton, Potomac
"Not": obvious change in "Reply To"
Brooklyn1
Polly, your Moma didn't teach you about blow jobs?
A blow job will get em off everytime.
Really, just pucker up and blow gently around the rim
until one pops off, won't mess up the pleats either.
Stu
wrote:
>Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but I
Here you are, I've had one for years. Getting the filters apart is sometimes
annoying.
http://www.amazon.com/Harold-Coffee-Tools-Filter-Separator/dp/B0000CF4DJ
--
Stu
Recipe of the week "HYDERABADI CHICKEN BIRYANI"
http://foodforu.ca/recipeofweek.html
So much more than just a recipe website
George
Try other manufacturers? Some seem to be cheaply made and you have to
fiddle with them to separate.
Nad R
The article states six cups a day to raise cholesterol. I only drink two
cups a day. I make about four cups at home and put the rest in a thermos
bottle and reheat in a microwave the next day. So I see no reason to stop
using my reusable filter. I might end up buying a French Press some day
since I do not make much.
Nancy2
>
> - Show quoted text -
If this is in an office, investigate buying pre-measured sealed
packets of coffee, not loose coffee that you need paper filters for.
Much easier; no mess. Our office buys them from discountcoffee.com.
N.
Dan Abel
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
Presumably, cheap filters. The slightly more expensive "basket" filters
separate much better, but the huge packs from Costco are more difficult.
pltr...@xhost.org
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The problem isn't getting them separated, but that doing so usually
>messes up one or more pleats, which you have to carefully get folded
>back into shape or risk the collapse of the filter, allowing grounds
>into the pot. Cone filters don't have that problem, but are
>significantly more expensive, and my Mr. Coffee uses the basket type.
Coffee afficionados agree that cone filter machines yield a better
brew with less coffee.
I buy about a dozen Mr. Coffee type machines each year, and always
have to use a lot more coffee in them to get a satisfacory brew.
With either type of basket and a paper filter, it's advisable to
thoroughly wet the filter (under the hot water tap) so that it adheres
to the basket walls before adding the coffee. That way, filter
collapse should never occur.
-- Larry
Arthur Shapiro
I'm surprised that most people don't have a problem with this...I certainly do
with my stacks of small filters for an individual basket-type (Black & Decker)
coffee maker.
On a whim, I just took a Post-It and easily pulled one filter from the stack.
Talk about something that's ubiquitous in an office environment.
Art
dsi1
Hold on to the stack near the edge and bend the other side back to make
the filters slide on each other. Grab the other side and straighten the
stack out which causes air to go between each filter. Flex a few times
to loosen up the stack and then release the first side and flex a few
times. The filters should separate easily.
Polly Esther
"dsi1" <wrote>
sharkman
--
"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:8tocv...@mid.individual.net...
> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but
> I try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a
> battle with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were
> two stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding
> and growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
A gentle puff of breath will do it.
sharkman
Bryan
You do pay significantly more that way, which could be worth it in an
office where the employees' time is money.
I even buy loose tea instead of tea bags.
>
> N.
--Bryan
Brooklyn1
>On Mar 9, 10:42 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
That's not true, measured coffee in bags is no more costly than loose
coffee because by weight less is needed to brew the same quantity due
to it being nitrogen packed.
>I even buy loose tea instead of tea bags.
>Bwrrrryan
That's not a good analogy... the price of tea has nothing to do with
whether it's loose or tea bags... either way can be cheap or
expensive.
Bryan
Why do you write stuff that's plainly false?
--Bryan
Brooklyn1
>> >> packets of coffee, not loose coffee that you need paper filters for.
>> >> Much easier; no mess. Our office buys them from discountcoffee.com.
>>
>> >You do pay significantly more that way, which could be worth it in an
>> >office where the employees' time is money.
>>
>> That's not true, measured coffee in bags is no more costly than loose
>> coffee because by weight less is needed to brew the same quantity due
>> to it being nitrogen packed.
>>
>> >I even buy loose tea instead of tea bags.
>> >Bwrrrryan
>>
>> That's not a good analogy... the price of tea has nothing to do with
>> whether it's loose or tea bags... either way can be cheap or
>> expensive.
>
>Why do you write stuff that's plainly false?
>
There is nothing false about your being a filthy faggot.
Dan Abel
<7ded8a78-2c8f-44e8...@11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Bryan <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
[attributions deleted]
> > >You do pay significantly more that way, which could be worth it in an
> > >office where the employees' time is money.
> >
> > That's not true, measured coffee in bags is no more costly than loose
> > coffee because by weight less is needed to brew the same quantity due
> > to it being nitrogen packed.
> >
> > >I even buy loose tea instead of tea bags.
> >
> > That's not a good analogy... the price of tea has nothing to do with
> > whether it's loose or tea bags... either way can be cheap or
> > expensive.
>
> Why do you write stuff that's plainly false?
In order to provoke a reaction. It often works, too. I try not to
reply, although I often fail.
merryb
Do you actually go thru that many coffee makers, or are you buying
them for your office or? If they are for your home, I'd consider a
different coffee maker! They should last a little longer than yours
seem to!
pltr...@xhost.org
wrote:
>> I buy about a dozen Mr. Coffee type machines each year, and always
>> have to use a lot more coffee in them to get a satisfacory brew.
>
>Do you actually go thru that many coffee makers, or are you buying
>them for your office or? If they are for your home, I'd consider a
>different coffee maker! They should last a little longer than yours
>seem to!
We don't have any use for pod coffee makers, and little 4 or 5 cup
hotel makers don't make enough for both of us to have large cups. Plus
we like full-flavored coffee.
So whenever we travel, as soon as we check into our hotel, we find the
local drug store and buy a 10-cup Mr. Coffee-type machine for ~$15 to
use in the room. It pays for itself in two days, compared to CharBucks
and such. When we leave, we leave the machine behind in the hotel
room.
We've been doing this for over twenty years, so I'm sort of the Johnny
Appleseed of coffee makers. 8;)
At home, we have a Gaggia Classic, a Jura E-75, and a Technivorm.
They're all holding up just fine, thanks.
-- Larry
Steve Pope
>So whenever we travel, as soon as we check into our hotel, we find the
>local drug store and buy a 10-cup Mr. Coffee-type machine for ~$15 to
>use in the room. It pays for itself in two days, compared to CharBucks
>and such. When we leave, we leave the machine behind in the hotel
>room.
Wow. Personally it gives me the jeebies to buy, use, and discard
something so casually. You know that slave laborers make those
coffee makers?
S.
J. Clarke
The more get sold the sooner the workers paradise gets dragged kicking
and screaming into the 21st century.
Nancy Young
> We don't have any use for pod coffee makers, and little 4 or 5 cup
> hotel makers don't make enough for both of us to have large cups. Plus
> we like full-flavored coffee.
>
> So whenever we travel, as soon as we check into our hotel, we find the
> local drug store and buy a 10-cup Mr. Coffee-type machine for ~$15 to
> use in the room. It pays for itself in two days, compared to CharBucks
> and such. When we leave, we leave the machine behind in the hotel
> room.
That's a riot. And I feel funny leaving behind styrofoam coolers
in every hotel.
I like that idea. I like a decent cup of coffee in the morning and
the hotel coffees are usually pretty bad. The latest was the worst
as it was Wolfgang Puck and it looked like you could only use the
packets that came with it. Sigh. I always pick up light cream or
half and half but even that didn't help this stuff.
> We've been doing this for over twenty years, so I'm sort of the Johnny
> Appleseed of coffee makers. 8;)
Funny.
nancy
Nancy Young
They wouldn't be better off making no wages, besides, I doubt the
coffee makers wind up in the trash. Someone takes it home.
nancy
Steve Pope
>J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article <ilpmk2$87d$1...@blue.rahul.net>, spo...@speedymail.org
>>> Wow. Personally it gives me the jeebies to buy, use, and discard
>>> something so casually. You know that slave laborers make those
>>> coffee makers?
>> The more get sold the sooner the workers paradise gets dragged kicking
>> and screaming into the 21st century.
>They wouldn't be better off making no wages, besides, I doubt the
>coffee makers wind up in the trash. Someone takes it home.
Could be, I just have a strong barrier to discarding manufactured things
that are capable of more permanent use. I do know some allowances
must be made when traveling, but I am pretty much satisfied with traveling
with a filter cone and filters and not throwing away an entire coffeemaker.
Last I checked society was having major issues disposing of plastic-based
trash.
Steve
Nancy Young
> Nancy Young <rjyn...@nospamcomcast.net> wrote:
>> They wouldn't be better off making no wages, besides, I doubt the
>> coffee makers wind up in the trash. Someone takes it home.
>
> Could be, I just have a strong barrier to discarding manufactured
> things that are capable of more permanent use. I do know some
> allowances
> must be made when traveling, but I am pretty much satisfied with
> traveling with a filter cone and filters and not throwing away an
> entire coffeemaker. Last I checked society was having major issues
> disposing of plastic-based trash.
I'm with you on that. I genuinely feel that the machine finds a
new home, that people practically living on tips don't just toss
perfectly good coffee machines. What do I know. Googling
around it seems like they might hold onto it in case you just forgot
it, and after some time they give the stuff to charity or the
employees.
If I was to do that, I'd now be inclined to leave a note that it's free
to a good home so they know I don't want it back.
nancy
Bryan
> pltrg...@xhost.org wrote:
> > We don't have any use for pod coffee makers, and little 4 or 5 cup
> > hotel makers don't make enough for both of us to have large cups. Plus
> > we like full-flavored coffee.
We'd just fill the thing up a little more than halfway with water.
That'd make one decent sized cup, then we'd use the second packet for
the other cup.
>
> > So whenever we travel, as soon as we check into our hotel, we find the
> > local drug store and buy a 10-cup Mr. Coffee-type machine for ~$15 to
> > use in the room. It pays for itself in two days, compared to CharBucks
> > and such. When we leave, we leave the machine behind in the hotel
> > room.
>
> That's a riot. And I feel funny leaving behind styrofoam coolers
> in every hotel.
>
> I like that idea. I like a decent cup of coffee in the morning and
> the hotel coffees are usually pretty bad.
I don't usually find them undrinkable, but it is beeter to bring your
own. I've got this little Cuisinart 4 cup (Cuisinart DCC-450BK) that
we'll take with from now on.
> The latest was the worst
> as it was Wolfgang Puck and it looked like you could only use the
> packets that came with it. Sigh. I always pick up light cream or
> half and half but even that didn't help this stuff.
I've said it here before, and I'll say it again, Wolfgang Puck is a
piece of garbage. He must really love that artificial creamer crap
since he used it in his "cream of" soups. We also always buy half &
half when we're on the road.
>
> > We've been doing this for over twenty years, so I'm sort of the Johnny
> > Appleseed of coffee makers. 8;)
That's practical if you fly. We always either drive or take Amtrak so
the space/weight thing isn't an issue. I dislike flying and
positively adore Amtrak.
>
> Funny.
>
> nancy
--Bryan
J. Clarke
The trouble with filter cone and filters is that now you have go out and
buy a stove and a kettle.
Steve Pope
>> Could be, I just have a strong barrier to discarding manufactured things
>> that are capable of more permanent use. I do know some allowances
>> must be made when traveling, but I am pretty much satisfied with traveling
>> with a filter cone and filters and not throwing away an entire coffeemaker.
>> Last I checked society was having major issues disposing of plastic-based
>> trash.
>The trouble with filter cone and filters is that now you have go out and
>buy a stove and a kettle.
Not necessarily. A hotel room usually has either a microwave or
some sort of inferior coffeemaker that can nonetheless heat water.
If not, one can travel with an immersion heater.
It is also possible to cold-brew coffee very successfully.
Steve
Brooklyn1
You believe that fercocktah fairy tale, I don't. At one point I
traveled extensively, before in-room coffee was common place. It's no
big deal to travel with ones own brewer and coffee. In fact I still
have my traveling kitchen at the ready in it's little duffel bag... I
have an 8 cup Black & Decker ADC (quite compact but plenty adequate
for two), and I have an 8 cup electric perk that I actually prefer for
travel (even smaller and no caraffe to break). Anyway nowadays most
all Hotels offer unlimited in-room complimentary coffee service, even
Motels have a decent sized ADC in the room, and no law says you must
use their coffee, you can always use your own. I don't believe that
fairy tale... pltrgyst ain't gonna take the time to shop for and then
toss away a brand new ADC, anyone who boasts of such extravagance is
more the type who steals as much complimentary toiletries off the
maid's cart as can fit in their luggage... I guess there's no room for
a coffee pot when they need the space for all the towels they steal.
Boron Elgar
Your alternatives are far more complicated and unworkable for a
traveler than the original poster's idea of a cheap drip machine,
sufficient to provide 10 cups' worth at each use during the stay, then
abandoned at the hotel.
There is no reason to think that the abandoned drip machine will be
invariably trashed, rather than re-used, either.
If you're really worrying about carbon footprint, best that all
travelers who aren't hoofing it, stay home.
Boron
Nancy2
> > If this is in an office, investigate buying pre-measured sealed
> > packets of coffee, not loose coffee that you need paper filters for.
> > Much easier; no mess. Our office buys them from discountcoffee.com.
>
> You do pay significantly more that way, which could be worth it in an
> office where the employees' time is money.
>
> I even buy loose tea instead of tea bags.
I always buy loose tea and use one of those little perforated ball
diffusers - because it's better than teabags, not for any other
reason.
N.
Nancy2
Sometimes visitors will call the hotel and ask for the items they
forgot - in my case, it was a favorite robe, which some employee
decided they needed more than I did, and the hotel denied I left it
there - so I'd be sure to leave a note on anything useful that I
abandoned in a hotel room.
N.
Steve Pope
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:05:17 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>J. Clarke <jclark...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Could be, I just have a strong barrier to discarding manufactured things
>>>> that are capable of more permanent use. I do know some allowances
>>>> must be made when traveling, but I am pretty much satisfied with traveling
>>>> with a filter cone and filters and not throwing away an entire coffeemaker.
>>>> Last I checked society was having major issues disposing of plastic-based
>>>> trash.
>>
>>>The trouble with filter cone and filters is that now you have go out and
>>>buy a stove and a kettle.
>>
>>Not necessarily. A hotel room usually has either a microwave or
>>some sort of inferior coffeemaker that can nonetheless heat water.
>>If not, one can travel with an immersion heater.
>>
>>It is also possible to cold-brew coffee very successfully.
>Your alternatives are far more complicated and unworkable for a
>traveler than the original poster's idea of a cheap drip machine,
>sufficient to provide 10 cups' worth at each use during the stay, then
>abandoned at the hotel.
Not in my opinion.
>There is no reason to think that the abandoned drip machine will be
>invariably trashed, rather than re-used, either.
Hotel staff usually puts in the trash anything left in the room unless it
is of immense value.
>If you're really worrying about carbon footprint, best that all
>travelers who aren't hoofing it, stay home.
This is not a useful attitude. People should conserve resources where
they can, even while trying to do the things they want/need to do.
To throw up your hands and give up on conserving is not the right approach.
IMO.
Steve
Brooklyn1
Nope, there are electric hot pots... I have one that is actually a
small percolator.
sf
I think that attitude reflects more than an odd few American's, Steve.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
Boron Elgar
(Steve Pope) wrote:
>Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:05:17 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>
>>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>>>J. Clarke <jclark...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Could be, I just have a strong barrier to discarding manufactured things
>>>>> that are capable of more permanent use. I do know some allowances
>>>>> must be made when traveling, but I am pretty much satisfied with traveling
>>>>> with a filter cone and filters and not throwing away an entire coffeemaker.
>>>>> Last I checked society was having major issues disposing of plastic-based
>>>>> trash.
>>>
>>>>The trouble with filter cone and filters is that now you have go out and
>>>>buy a stove and a kettle.
>>>
>>>Not necessarily. A hotel room usually has either a microwave or
>>>some sort of inferior coffeemaker that can nonetheless heat water.
>>>If not, one can travel with an immersion heater.
>>>
>>>It is also possible to cold-brew coffee very successfully.
>
>>Your alternatives are far more complicated and unworkable for a
>>traveler than the original poster's idea of a cheap drip machine,
>>sufficient to provide 10 cups' worth at each use during the stay, then
>>abandoned at the hotel.
>
>Not in my opinion.
No shit, Sherlock. But as a frequent traveler, I can tell you that
making an equivalent of 10 cups of coffee's water with a immersion
heater or the usually ill-washed mini coffeepot in the room, or
bringing along a vessel to heat water in a micro, then schlep all the
pieces need to make drip (don't hassle me, I assure you that I have
more Chemex coffee makers than you can shake a stick at. I collect all
sorts of coffee pots) is a royal pain in the ass. So is paying an
outrageous sum for sub-par coffee on the road.
>
>>There is no reason to think that the abandoned drip machine will be
>>invariably trashed, rather than re-used, either.
>
>Hotel staff usually puts in the trash anything left in the room unless it
>is of immense value.
You will provide a citation to prove that assumption, won't you?
That's a nice boy....'cause the guy with the MS in hospitality
management studies I just spoke with said that there is no standard
procedure one way or the other unless specifically established by
corporate or franchisee or anyone else who is managing. Net net...good
stuff rarely gets tossed. It may get swiped or stored awhile or
donated or taken home by someone, but rarely tossed.
>
>>If you're really worrying about carbon footprint, best that all
>>travelers who aren't hoofing it, stay home.
>
>This is not a useful attitude. People should conserve resources where
>they can, even while trying to do the things they want/need to do.
>To throw up your hands and give up on conserving is not the right approach.
>IMO.
And the reason why such BS conservation attitudes as you took do not
work, is that your poorly thought through alternative is SO much a
bother, SO much an idiotic idea, that anyone with a brain can pick the
battles wisely and conserve along some other lines.
Really, I am a damn Green Queen, but I am not an idiot. It is a topic
I have studied well and wisely and approach in an intelligent,
researched manner with deliberate choices and actions. I don't toss
off blanket, poorly thought out foolishness and declare it logical
and the One True Path.
You are one dumb motherfucker. Get back to me when you start shitting
in your catbox.
Boron
Steve Pope
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>>Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>There is no reason to think that the abandoned drip machine will be
>>>invariably trashed, rather than re-used, either.
>>
>>Hotel staff usually puts in the trash anything left in the room unless it
>>is of immense value.
>
>You will provide a citation to prove that assumption, won't you?
Um... you didn't provide a citation to your claim that it will be
re-used.
>>>If you're really worrying about carbon footprint, best that all
>>>travelers who aren't hoofing it, stay home.
>>This is not a useful attitude. People should conserve resources where
>>they can, even while trying to do the things they want/need to do.
>>To throw up your hands and give up on conserving is not the right approach.
>>IMO.
>And the reason why such BS conservation attitudes as you took do not
>work, is that your poorly thought through alternative is SO much a
>bother, SO much an idiotic idea, that anyone with a brain can pick the
>battles wisely and conserve along some other lines.
>
>Really, I am a damn Green Queen, but I am not an idiot. It is a topic
>I have studied well and wisely and approach in an intelligent,
>researched manner with deliberate choices and actions.
La-de-dah.
>off blanket, poorly thought out foolishness and declare it logical
>and the One True Path.
Nice rant, but your suggestion that one "might as well stay home"
if one does not want to purchase and discard coffeemakers is
offensive. There is nothing "One true path" about questioning
this. You're way, way off base on this one. Doesn't mean you're
not pursuing a thougtful, resource-conserving life in general,
but you've latched onto the wrong argument in this discussion.
Steve
Boron Elgar
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> This is not a useful attitude. People should conserve resources where
>> they can, even while trying to do the things they want/need to do.
>> To throw up your hands and give up on conserving is not the right approach.
>> IMO.
>
>I think that attitude reflects more than an odd few American's, Steve.
Welcome to life. Everything you do, every choice you make is a trade
off. These trade offs are what makes your life affordable, livable and
if you want to be, altruistic and utilitarian.
Go on...give me a run-down of your life and I'll be happy to pick
apart plenty that you do that isn't up to snuff with the latest
conservation practices. That doesn't make you band, or foolish or
uncaring, it just makes you normal.
It is easy to take to the extreme - you will find lunatics and pigs on
both ends of the spectrum. We each of us take our own stands on social
and environmental issues,. we each find a comfort zone in which to
live and to take an isolated incident as Steve did - that of the
purchased-left-behind coffee pot, and try to extrapolate that into
some uberlifestyle and then criticize a way of living because of such
an insignificant and isolated behavior is plain stupid. It is not
logical, it is not relevant, it is not beneficial. It's bullshit
bravado at its best. It does a disservice to any cause dragged into
it.
Boron
Steve Pope
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:22:37 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>>> This is not a useful attitude. People should conserve resources where
>>> they can, even while trying to do the things they want/need to do.
>>> To throw up your hands and give up on conserving is not the right approach.
>>> IMO.
>>I think that attitude reflects more than an odd few American's, Steve.
>Welcome to life. Everything you do, every choice you make is a trade
>off. These trade offs are what makes your life affordable, livable and
>if you want to be, altruistic and utilitarian.
>
>Go on...give me a run-down of your life and I'll be happy to pick
>apart plenty that you do that isn't up to snuff with the latest
>conservation practices. That doesn't make you band, or foolish or
>uncaring, it just makes you normal.
>
>It is easy to take to the extreme - you will find lunatics and pigs on
>both ends of the spectrum. We each of us take our own stands on social
>and environmental issues,. we each find a comfort zone in which to
>live and to take an isolated incident as Steve did - that of the
>purchased-left-behind coffee pot, and try to extrapolate that into
>some uberlifestyle and then criticize a way of living because of such
>an insignificant and isolated behavior is plain stupid.
Why is it "stupid" to have a preference for not casually throwing out
still-perfectly-useful, just-purchased items? If you accepted your
own stance above about us each accepting each other's personal comfort
zones you would not be having this wild reaction to my statements.
And where exactly did I "extrpolate ... into some uberlifestyle?"
I hope you can realize that's a completely fictional allegation.
Steve
sf
(Steve Pope) wrote:
> Why is it "stupid" to have a preference for not casually throwing out
> still-perfectly-useful, just-purchased items? If you accepted your
> own stance above about us each accepting each other's personal comfort
> zones you would not be having this wild reaction to my statements.
I didn't read every post in this thread, but wasn't it about leaving
perfectly good coffee pots in motel/hotel rooms after using them a few
times? Since when does anyone need to bring their own coffee pot with
them anymore? They come with the room, as do hair dryers and shampoo.
Steve Pope
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:42:54 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>
>> Why is it "stupid" to have a preference for not casually throwing out
>> still-perfectly-useful, just-purchased items? If you accepted your
>> own stance above about us each accepting each other's personal comfort
>> zones you would not be having this wild reaction to my statements.
>
>I didn't read every post in this thread, but wasn't it about leaving
>perfectly good coffee pots in motel/hotel rooms after using them a few
>times? Since when does anyone need to bring their own coffee pot with
>them anymore? They come with the room, as do hair dryers and shampoo.
The original statement was that the hotel-provided coffeemakers
could not brew five or so cups with the expected convenience
and/or quality.
Steve
sf
OIC. I give up on coffee that meets expectations when I'm out and
about. Same with ordering wine by the glass to accompany dinner.
Steve Pope
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:54:06 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
>> The original statement was that the hotel-provided coffeemakers
>> could not brew five or so cups with the expected convenience
>> and/or quality.
>OIC. I give up on coffee that meets expectations when I'm out and
>about. Same with ordering wine by the glass to accompany dinner.
Right. Some people (including myself) like to do some amount
of food preparation when they're traveling (possibly including
making coffee). I, personally, like to do this without
purchasing then abandoning significant amounts of equipment.
I (and for all I know it's just me) would consider going
through several coffeemakers per year for this purpose to be
significant, and that there are less drastic alternatives.
That's why I commented on it.
(Perhaps this is a topic that's difficult to comment on at all
without encountering a lot of spin.)
S.
Dan Abel
<79373f3a-ba87-4c7e...@j13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Nancy2 <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> I always buy loose tea and use one of those little perforated ball
> diffusers - because it's better than teabags, not for any other
> reason.
I'm not currently a tea drinker, but I got really turned off by cheap
tea bags. They turn the hot water brown really quickly, but there's no
flavor. If you let them steep, they get more flavor. How does that
work? I read that they put food coloring in those really cheap tea bags!
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
sf
(Steve Pope) wrote:
> I, personally, like to do this without
> purchasing then abandoning significant amounts of equipment.
> I (and for all I know it's just me) would consider going
> through several coffeemakers per year for this purpose to be
> significant, and that there are less drastic alternatives.
> That's why I commented on it.
I think it's over the top and wasteful too, which is why I forego
coffee altogether when I know it's going to be awful.
>
> (Perhaps this is a topic that's difficult to comment on at all
> without encountering a lot of spin.)
Well, there Is the faction that argues about how to roast beans at
home - but I'm not one of those either. :)
Brooklyn1
All nonsense. There's plenty of quality tea sold in teabags and
plenty of lousy tea sold loose. Nowadays much of what's marketed
loose and in bags isn't even tea, it's a lot of herbal concoctions.
Steve Pope
What I have generally found, in the last decade or so, is that
almost all true tea (black tea, green tea) sold in teabags is
not particularly good. Loose tea bought from a good U.S. retail store
can be pretty good, but the best tea seems to be what one can
purchase in India, China, Korea, etc. (I haven't been to Asia recently
but a few folks have gifted me some tea after traveling there.)
(In the very distant past I bought really good Oolong tea from
The Tea Leaf, but recently as a huge chain I do not think they
are doing quite the same.)
Whereas the "herbal concoctions" as you phrase it can be really good,
even in teabags.... assuming it's a herbal concoction you want.
S.
Bryan
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:07:32 -0700, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>I'm not currently a tea drinker, but I got really turned off by cheap
> >>tea bags. They turn the hot water brown really quickly, but there's no
> >>flavor. If you let them steep, they get more flavor. How does that
> >>work? I read that they put food coloring in those really cheap tea bags!
> >All nonsense. There's plenty of quality tea sold in teabags and
> >plenty of lousy tea sold loose. Nowadays much of what's marketed
> >loose and in bags isn't even tea, it's a lot of herbal concoctions.
>
> What I have generally found, in the last decade or so, is that
> almost all true tea (black tea, green tea) sold in teabags is
> not particularly good. Loose tea bought from a good U.S. retail store
> can be pretty good, but the best tea seems to be what one can
> purchase in India, China, Korea, etc. (I haven't been to Asia recently
> but a few folks have gifted me some tea after traveling there.)
Iced tea at (low-mod priced) restaurants is uniformly bad. Cheap
Chinese green tea is pretty good.
>
> (In the very distant past I bought really good Oolong tea from
> The Tea Leaf, but recently as a huge chain I do not think they
> are doing quite the same.)
>
> Whereas the "herbal concoctions" as you phrase it can be really good,
> even in teabags.... assuming it's a herbal concoction you want.
Nope, I don't want the herbal stuff.
>
> S.
--Bryan
Brooklyn1
I don't place much value in taste tests for tea, coffee, wine, booze
or any primary ingredient, everyone has a different taster... who's to
say that one beer tastes better than another... it's only particular
combinations that are objectionable. Beer is wonderful for braising
beef... beer for braising chicken is TIAD.
Nunya Bidnits
Bryan <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 4:42 am, Nad R <n...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
>> "Storrmmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>>> i once was given a fresh new eye shadow want and was told to hold
>>> filters with them cupped in one hand, then rake wand across, and i
>>> was shocked to see it worked, it was one of those stiff roulnd pad
>>> things, not a brush, Lee "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net>
>>> wrote in message news:8tocv...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning
>>>> coffee but I try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I
>>>> had quite a battle with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could
>>>> feel that there were two stuck together but it took quite a bit of
>>>> ruffling, slipping, sliding and growling to get just one loose
>>>> from its tenacious partner.
>>>> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
>>
>> I use a reusable filter and just wash it after use. Seems to work
>> and would be a lot cheaper in the long run. I have not purchased
>> paper filters in years. Is there a reason for the paper filters in
>> an office setting?
>
> Yes, there is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2029499
>
> The problem isn't getting them separated, but that doing so usually
> messes up one or more pleats, which you have to carefully get folded
> back into shape or risk the collapse of the filter, allowing grounds
> into the pot. Cone filters don't have that problem, but are
> significantly more expensive, and my Mr. Coffee uses the basket type.
>>
>> --
>> Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
>
> --Bryan
I actually saw a little fat plastic tweezer tool with rubber tips that was
supposed to perfectly extract singe filters.
OTOH I mess up the pleats and it doesn't seem to bother the Bunn.
MartyB
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graham
> Amazon has a neat little fix - buy the filter remover - it has rubber on 2 sides and you just pick up the filters with this - its less than $7 and well worth it. Here is the link.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CF4DJ?pf_rd_p=ab873d20-a0ca-439b-ac45-cd78f07a84d8&pf_rd_r=CBXF1MT41D401QWBW9A8
>
Nellie
The op is probably dead by now.
——-–
Nah, Polly Esther is alive and well on
Facebook. She’d find this funny.
Nellie
dsi1
jmcquown
> Amazon has a neat little fix - buy the filter remover - it has rubber on 2 sides and you just pick up the filters with this - its less than $7 and well worth it. Here is the link.
>
>
figured it out in the last eight years.
Jill
jmcquown
Jill
col...@gmail.com
penm...@aol.com
jamesb...@gmail.com
> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but I
> try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a battle
> with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were two
> stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding and
> growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
capabi...@gmail.com
> Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but I
> try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a battle
> with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were two
> stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding and
> growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
> Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
Bryan Simmons
--Bryan
“Urethra. The word is urethra.
I'm ‘checking out’ on that Monday! In nursing school! How to
catheterize a female patient!!Unfortunately we only get to practice/check out on a mannequin.
Unfortunately for me that is, not for the 'patient'!”
--John Kuthe in alt.punk 11/18/06
itsjoan...@webtv.net
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 5:11:51 PM UTC-5, capabi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2011 at 10:10:15 PM UTC-6, Polly Esther wrote:
>
> > > Teach me how to separate coffee filters. DH makes the morning coffee but I
> > > try to get everything ready to go for him. Just now I had quite a battle
> > > with getting a 'single' filter apart. I could feel that there were two
> > > stuck together but it took quite a bit of ruffling, slipping, sliding and
> > > growling to get just one loose from its tenacious partner.
> > > Is there a neat trick that Moma didn't tell me? Polly
> >
> > Just use a sewing needle or straight pin and it' easy to pick off one at a time from the inside.
>
> Or just pinch your tongue between your index finger and thumb. I understand folks being hesitant to do that in the time of Covid-19, but the heat of coffee brewing will destroy the virus.
>
> --Bryan
>
Sheldon Martin
>
> Teach me how to separate coffee filters.
songbird
i have a filter basket that works fine so i wouldn't
use a paper filter. but we don't make coffee from
grounds any more and i rarely drink coffee (maybe
once a month) anyways.
songbird