You know you're a Californian when . . .
Mark Thorson
on the strength of the earthquake you just felt.
"That's about a 4.5!"
"No way -- 4.2 tops!"
Blinky the Shark
"Roller or shaker?" :)
--
Blinky T. "Los Angeles" Shark
King's Crown
"Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45E7AD37...@sonic.net...
Boy, when I lived in the bay area for 5 years I could do it. I got very
good at earthquakes there were so many. So, glad I'm not there any more.
Lynne
sf
Ya big chicken! ;)
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myrl_j...@yahoo.com
1. Your coworker has 8 body piercings and none are visible.
2. You make over $200,000 and still can't afford a house.
3. You take a bus and are shocked at two people carrying on a
conversation in English.
4. Your child's 3rd-grade teacher has purple hair, a nose ring, and is
named "Flower".
5. You can't remember...is pot illegal?
6. You've been to a baby shower that has two mothers and a sperm
donor.
7. You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee beans are
grown, and you can taste the difference between Sumatran and
Ethiopian.
9. You can't remember...is pot illegal?
10. A really great parking space can totally move you to tears.
11. A low speed police pursuit will interrupt ANY TV broadcast.
12. Gas costs $1.00 per gallon more than anywhere else in the U.S.
13. A man gets on the bus in full leather regalia and crotchless
chaps. You don't even notice.
14. Unlike back home, the guy at 8:30 am at Starbucks wearing the
baseball cap and sunglasses who looks like George Clooney really IS
George Clooney.
15. Your car insurance costs as much as your house payment.
16. Your hairdresser is straight, your plumber is gay, the woman who
delivers your mail is into S & M, and your Mary Kay rep is a guy in
drag.
17. You can't remember...is pot illegal?
18. Its barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news
station: "STORM WATCH 2007."
19. You have to leave the big company meeting early because Billy
Blanks himself is teaching the 4:00pm Tae Bo class.
20. You pass an elementary school playground and the children are all
busy with their cells or pagers.
21. It's barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour
early to avoid all the weather-related accidents.
22. Hey! Is Pot Illegal????
23. Both you AND your dog have therapists, and psychics. . .but only
one of you has an astrologer.
24. The fastest part of your commute, is down your driveway.
25. ... and, the Terminator is your governor....
SBarbour
Actually, most of us barely pause to notice an earthquake, even if it's big
enough to feel.
Sharon
The Ranger
news:LnYFh.685$2m7...@news.cpqcorp.net...
Damned straight!
"4.5..." Ppphhsstthhh!
Just a bunch of East Coast Whinin' Scaredy Transplants are the
only ones that freak.
The Ranger
Serene Vannoy
Not true of my circle of friends and relatives. The second there's
an earthquake, everyone posts to their LiveJournal and adds an entry
to http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ca/
Serene
Christine Dabney
<cuhula...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>SBarbour <sharon_...@hp.com> wrote in message
>> Actually, most of us barely pause to notice an earthquake,
>> even if it's big enough to feel.
>
>Damned straight!
>
>"4.5..." Ppphhsstthhh!
>
>Just a bunch of East Coast Whinin' Scaredy Transplants are the
>only ones that freak.
>
>The Ranger
>
And if a native California says "that was a big one", you better
believe it. If they say that, it was probably devastating...
Christine, who was in the bay area for the Loma Prieta earthquake.
Dimitri
Right on....
I'll take earthquakes over tornadoes any day.
Dimitri
Christine Dabney
wrote:
>
>"SBarbour" <sharon_...@hp.com> wrote in message
>> Actually, most of us barely pause to notice an earthquake, even if it's big
>> enough to feel.
>>
>> Sharon
>
>Right on....
>
>
>I'll take earthquakes over tornadoes any day.
>
>Dimitri
>
Same here.
And I have lived through both, well at least the big earthquake, and
then several years later in an eastern state, a big tornado coming
through town.
The earthquake was the Loma Prieta one, and I was about 10 miles from
where the double decker freeway collapsed. There was no time to get
scared when it happened...even though it seemed the house would never
stop shaking.
With the tornado coming through town, there were warnings, sirens
going off, the TV telling folks to take cover, and plenty of time to
get terrified that it was coming my way. I think I got in the only
space I could at the time, as I was on crutches and had just had hip
surgery a week or so before.
As Dimitri said, I'll take the earthquake. It's over and done with by
the time the fear has registered.
Christine
PeterLucas
news:54r10aF...@mid.individual.net:
Why bother??
After Northridge, there were something like 13,000 aftershocks.
I remember riding on my Yammy 650 between Venice and Granada, loaded
over and above the gunnels with water, food and EMT supplies............
doing 85mph and thinking....... "I didn't know that there were ripples
in the freeway here". It wasn't till I got to my mates place at Granada
that he told me I'd ridden through a 5.6 aftershock.
Big friggen deal.
SoCal is always going to rock'n roll.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual
beings having a human experience.
- Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Blinky the Shark
> And I have lived through both, well at least the big earthquake, and
> then several years later in an eastern state, a big tornado coming
> through town.
> The earthquake was the Loma Prieta one, and I was about 10 miles from
> where the double decker freeway collapsed. There was no time to get
> scared when it happened...even though it seemed the house would never
> stop shaking.
I did Northridge.
http://blinkynet.net/odds/nridge.html
--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
Charlotte L. Blackmer
*smacks head*
I knew I forgot something! I was busy trying to coax the scaredy-kitten
out from under the bed.
(I do have the "Report a Quake" site bookmarked after our December fun.
It has come in handy recently.)
Charlotte
--
Serene Vannoy
> Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote in
> news:54r10aF...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> SBarbour wrote:
>>> "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> news:45E7AD37...@sonic.net...
>>>> You argue with people over a few tenths of a point
>>>> on the strength of the earthquake you just felt.
>>>>
>>>> "That's about a 4.5!"
>>>>
>>>> "No way -- 4.2 tops!"
>>> Actually, most of us barely pause to notice an earthquake, even if
>>> it's big enough to feel.
>> Not true of my circle of friends and relatives. The second there's
>> an earthquake, everyone posts to their LiveJournal and adds an entry
>> to http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ca/
>>
>
>
>
> Why bother??
For science!
> Big friggen deal.
>
>
> SoCal is always going to rock'n roll.
So is NorCal, where I live, but it's fascinating to some of us.
Serene
PeterLucas
news:slrneugr8o....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
> Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> And I have lived through both, well at least the big earthquake, and
>> then several years later in an eastern state, a big tornado coming
>> through town.
>> The earthquake was the Loma Prieta one, and I was about 10 miles
from
>> where the double decker freeway collapsed. There was no time to get
>> scared when it happened...even though it seemed the house would never
>> stop shaking.
>
> I did Northridge.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/odds/nridge.html
>
>
Forgot to mention.
My mates place in Granada......... a very large complex.
100 or so aprtments.
He was the FEMA/Red Cross rep.
All the apartments were trashed. We went door to door, most times
kicking the doors in.... looking for bodies.
That's a holiday I choose not to remember.
PeterLucas
news:slrneugr8o....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
> Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> And I have lived through both, well at least the big earthquake, and
>> then several years later in an eastern state, a big tornado coming
>> through town.
>> The earthquake was the Loma Prieta one, and I was about 10 miles
from
>> where the double decker freeway collapsed. There was no time to get
>> scared when it happened...even though it seemed the house would never
>> stop shaking.
>
> I did Northridge.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/odds/nridge.html
>
>
Haven't read the whole thing. Where were you?
I was in Granada.
I toured thru' on my motor bike thinking I'd gt some digi pics. After
about 5 , I couldn't take anymore.
At the Nothridge apartment collapse,,,,,,,,, i stood there and if i
could have cried, I would have,
I got into a punch up with some redneck fuckwit who wnted his 'misus' to
take footage of him with the apartment block behind him,,,,,,,,,,,,
saying "Hey, Cool!! 14 people died here, right behind me".
I beat the fuck out of him and trashed his camera,
The National Guard guys stood back asnd watched.
They came up afterwards and thanked me.
Blinky the Shark
> My mates place in Granada......... a very large complex.
<snip>
> All the apartments were trashed. We went door to door, most times
> kicking the doors in.... looking for bodies.
>
>
> That's a holiday I choose not to remember.
Gosh, I guess so. :-/
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrneugr8o....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
>
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>
>>> And I have lived through both, well at least the big earthquake, and
>>> then several years later in an eastern state, a big tornado coming
>>> through town. The earthquake was the Loma Prieta one, and I was
>>> about 10 miles
> from
>>> where the double decker freeway collapsed. There was no time to
>>> get scared when it happened...even though it seemed the house would
>>> never stop shaking.
>>
>> I did Northridge.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/odds/nridge.html
>
> Haven't read the whole thing. Where were you?
Third line: "At 4:31 am, Monday, a 6.7 earthquake hit 10 miles west of
my apartment in North Hollywood."
> I was in Granada.
Granada Hills?
> I toured thru' on my motor bike thinking I'd gt some digi pics. After
> about 5 , I couldn't take anymore.
Understandable.
> At the Nothridge apartment collapse,,,,,,,,, i stood there and if i
> could have cried, I would have,
Saw some of that. Sad, indeed. And scary. Could've been you or I.
Another local event: I think today or yestarday is/was the 10th
anniversary of The Great North Hollywood Bank Robbery Shootout.
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree
>>
>>
>> SoCal is always going to rock'n roll.
>
>
> So is NorCal, where I live, but it's fascinating to some of us.
We have been in the Central Valley for almost two years and haven't felt
even a single shake. My children would be thrilled and scared at the same
time. After living through a Mississippi storm where our house took a direct
lightening strike, the "Act of God" thing terrifies my youngest.
Cindi
>
> Serene
Charlotte L. Blackmer
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree <lonnicusu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[... you critique the minor earthquakes ...]
I don't know where in the Valley you are, but the foothill area from
north-east Sacramento up to about Oroville has occasional little shakers.
VERY occasional. (The occasional funnel cloud too up in the wide open
spaces north of Sac/Roseville, if you want some middle-of-the-country
nostalgia ;).) With that being said, I didn't feel a quake properly until
I moved to SF after college. I was in the car, or in one case in SF, had
someone who weighed 300# walking by my desk at the moment.
My parents in the north-east burbs of Sacramento felt the Loma Prieta
quake. I was at 14th and Broadway in beautiful downtown Oakland,
which is walking distance from the Cypress structure and on the same kind
of sandy soil. In an elevator. I got quite a ride. Thanks be to God
that I was in a modern, well-engineered building. (YAY!! for code)
obFood: Had artichoke dip that was left over from the massive funeral
spread I helped out with for lunch today. With crackers.
Charlotte
--
Mark Thorson
>
> 7. You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee
> beans are grown, and you can taste the difference between
> Sumatran and Ethiopian.
Anyone can taste the difference between Sumatran
and Ethiopian. Sumatran is a very deep mellow
coffee, very much like Columbian from the
southwest districts (Huila and Popayan).
Ethiopian is brighter and fruitier, sort
of halfway between a Columbian and a Brazilian.
You don't need to be from California to know that!
Terry Pulliam Burd
random neurons and opined:
>You know you're in California when.....
<snip>
>18. Its barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news
>station: "STORM WATCH 2007."
<snip>
>21. It's barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour
>early to avoid all the weather-related accidents.
I can totally testify here! If it's raining, I take PCH to work from
Laguna Niguel to Newport Beach. Otherwise, I usually take the 73. The
73 turns into a skating rink when it rains and between that and the
CHP trying to catch toll runners, it gets backed up like you wouldn't
believe. Heck, the 73 gets backed up if there are more than 3 clouds
in the sky! And fergetaboutit if it's foggy.
Of course, all bets are off from Memorial Day to Labor Day, as I won't
drive PCH at *all* due to the high volume of tourists clogging up
Laguna Beach.
OB: The so-called Mexican restauarant called "Las Brisas" in Laguna
Beach has the worst menu/kitchen in Laguna Beach, IMHO. AFAICS, the
better the view (of the ocean), the worse the food.
Terry Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
-- Duncan Hines
To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree
"Charlotte L. Blackmer" <c...@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
news:esa2hl$i4h$1...@blue.rahul.net...
> In article <fI%Fh.269$BX....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree <lonnicusu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
> [... you critique the minor earthquakes ...]
>>>>
>>>> SoCal is always going to rock'n roll.
>>>
>>>
>>> So is NorCal, where I live, but it's fascinating to some of us.
>>
>>We have been in the Central Valley for almost two years and haven't felt
>>even a single shake. My children would be thrilled and scared at the same
>>time. After living through a Mississippi storm where our house took a
>>direct
>>lightening strike, the "Act of God" thing terrifies my youngest.
>
> I don't know where in the Valley you are, but the foothill area from
> north-east Sacramento up to about Oroville has occasional little shakers.
> VERY occasional. (The occasional funnel cloud too up in the wide open
> spaces north of Sac/Roseville, if you want some middle-of-the-country
> nostalgia ;).) With that being said, I didn't feel a quake properly until
> I moved to SF after college. I was in the car, or in one case in SF, had
> someone who weighed 300# walking by my desk at the moment.
My parents have been here 15 years and they have only felt a shake or two
the whole time they've been here so we are probably not going to feel much.
Though, we travel pretty often to the Bay so the possibility is always
there. Not wishing quakes on anyone, just sayin'.
Cindi
sf
>You know you're in California when.....
>
>7. You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee beans are
>grown, and you can taste the difference between Sumatran and
>Ethiopian.
Doesn't everyone?
>10. A really great parking space can totally move you to tears.
No, but I thank my parking "Carma" and make an offering to the parking
gods by feeding the meter.
>12. Gas costs $1.00 per gallon more than anywhere else in the U.S.
It's down now, but earlier in the week gas was $3.45 for premium.
>13. A man gets on the bus in full leather regalia and crotchless
>chaps. You don't even notice.
Why should I stare? He didn't forget his Levis.
http://www.roughstockcowboy.com/Chaps.htm
>18. Its barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news
>station: "STORM WATCH 2007."
>
Did you hear about the 4+ EARTHQUAKEs we've had this week? Are they
foreshadowing another "Big One"?. Oooooooo, I'm soooo scared.
If the big one comes in conjunction with global warming and rising sea
levels, all I can say to you (Myrl) is "I hope you have a houseboat".
The levies will break and the flood plains will be flooded once again.
Honestly, I don't know why Californian's are still ignoring their levy
system after the New Orleans disaster. It happened there and it can
happen here. It's the price of delayed maintenance.
myrl_j...@yahoo.com
> Anyone can taste the difference between Sumatran
> and Ethiopian. Sumatran is a very deep mellow
> coffee, very much like Columbian from the
> southwest districts (Huila and Popayan).
> Ethiopian is brighter and fruitier, sort
> of halfway between a Columbian and a Brazilian.
> You don't need to be from California to know that!
I'm not a coffee drinker. . .I'm a tea drinker. I live in California,
and would be unable to tell the difference, unless I tried them each a
couple of times. I am trainable however.
myrl_j...@yahoo.com
> If the big one comes in conjunction with global warming and rising sea
> levels, all I can say to you (Myrl) is "I hope you have a houseboat".
> The levies will break and the flood plains will be flooded once again.
> Honestly, I don't know why Californian's are still ignoring their levy
> system after the New Orleans disaster. It happened there and it can
> happen here. It's the price of delayed maintenance.
I agree with you about the levies. . .It does seem we are making some
improvements in that regard. I do hope it's enough improvement, and
it's quick enough!
I don't have a house boat, but the topography of my lot, puts it in a
little better position that some. I'm an excellent swimmer too;-)
Bob Terwilliger
> If the big one comes in conjunction with global warming and rising sea
> levels, all I can say to you (Myrl) is "I hope you have a houseboat".
> The levies will break and the flood plains will be flooded once again.
> Honestly, I don't know why Californian's are still ignoring their levy
> system after the New Orleans disaster. It happened there and it can
> happen here. It's the price of delayed maintenance.
*ahem*
The word is "levee." The word you're using has a completely different
meaning. Please learn the difference.
(It saddens me when a California teacher misspells a word that Led Zeppelin
spelled correctly. It also saddens me when a teacher misuses apostrophes.)
Bob
Blinky the Shark
> My parents have been here 15 years and they have only felt a shake or two
> the whole time they've been here so we are probably not going to feel much.
> Though, we travel pretty often to the Bay so the possibility is always
> there. Not wishing quakes on anyone, just sayin'.
For California earthquate information almost in real time, this is The
Site:
http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/
If you click a quake symbol, you'll drill down to a finer map.
If you click an event on *that* map, you'll get details on it.
(If you scroll down from that second map, you'll see a list of recent
events the area covered by that map.)
They usually show events within two or three minutes; I've seen TV news
use their images.
Boron Elgar
<ntpu...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>
>OB: The so-called Mexican restauarant called "Las Brisas" in Laguna
>Beach has the worst menu/kitchen in Laguna Beach, IMHO. AFAICS, the
>better the view (of the ocean), the worse the food.
>
>Terry Pulliam Burd
I have had very pleasant lunches at the Nepenthe Restaurant.
Boron
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree
"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrneui80b....@thurston.blinkynet.net...
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>
>> My parents have been here 15 years and they have only felt a shake or two
>> the whole time they've been here so we are probably not going to feel
>> much.
>> Though, we travel pretty often to the Bay so the possibility is always
>> there. Not wishing quakes on anyone, just sayin'.
>
> For California earthquate information almost in real time, this is The
> Site:
>
> http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/
>
> If you click a quake symbol, you'll drill down to a finer map.
>
> If you click an event on *that* map, you'll get details on it.
>
> (If you scroll down from that second map, you'll see a list of recent
> events the area covered by that map.)
>
> They usually show events within two or three minutes; I've seen TV news
> use their images.
>
>
Thank you kindly
Cindi
John Kane
wrote:
Well it could be that a lack of tax monies is affecting investment in
the infrastructure.
Is levee the correct spelling? That is with out the accent? I had not
realised the word had become that anglicised.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Bob Terwilliger
> Is levee the correct spelling? That is with out the accent? I had not
> realised the word had become that anglicised.
"Levee" has overtaken "levée" as the more-accepted spelling, though "levée"
is still acceptable. Americans prefer "levee" because "é" isn't a standard
letter in our alphabet. (Also, inasmuch as we pronounce it with the accent
on the first syllable, it wouldn't make much sense to keep the accented
letter in the original spelling.)
Bob
Bob Terwilliger
> I have had very pleasant lunches at the Nepenthe Restaurant.
I might have eaten there, but forgotten. :-)
http://209.161.33.50/dictionary/nepenthe
Bob
Boron Elgar
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
You might forget eating there, but not the view...
http://www.nepenthebigsur.com/
Check this webcam during CA daylight hours.
Boron
Bob Terwilliger
> You might forget eating there, but not the view...
>
> http://www.nepenthebigsur.com/
>
> Check this webcam during CA daylight hours.
Thanks very much! After Lin and I get married, we'll be traveling up the
California coast. We're stopping in San Simeon the first night, and it looks
like Café Kivah might be a good stop for brunch the next morning!
Bob
Christine Dabney
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
You two are getting married???!!!!!
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Christine
Bob Terwilliger
> You two are getting married???!!!!!
Oh, I thought I'd mentioned it here already. Must have been one or more of
the other newsgroups in which I participate.
(I wanted to stay low-key about the whole thing, but Lin posted this to her
LiveJournal: http://i4.tinypic.com/29qo64w.jpg)
> Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much!
Bob
Lin
> You two are getting married???!!!!!
>
> Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know he said it, but I echo the sentiments ... Thank you!
I do hope that you will allow me a little of your time as you drive
through. I will see what kind of decent but inexpensive digs I can
come up with if you are serious about OKC and the I-40 trek.
Drop me a line at the email address I have on this account and I can
send you the pertinent contact info.
Barbecue ..... yummmmmm. New friends .... fantastic.
--Lin
sf
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
I have.... love the view. Food is so-so.
Nancy Young
"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote
> Christine wrote about Lin and me:
>
>> You two are getting married???!!!!!
>
> Oh, I thought I'd mentioned it here already. Must have been one or more of
> the other newsgroups in which I participate.
Well, I missed it, too, then, because your post made me do
a double-take ... great news, congratulations to you both!!
nancy
sf
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
>Boron wrote:
>
>> You might forget eating there, but not the view...
>>
>> http://www.nepenthebigsur.com/
>>
>> Check this webcam during CA daylight hours.
>
>Thanks very much! After Lin and I get married,
>
Married? Finally! Congratulations to you both.
>we'll be traveling up the
>California coast. We're stopping in San Simeon the first night,
UP? I thought you were in the Sacramento area. When did you move?
There is a B&B in the southern part of Cambria that we like. Where
are you staying?
>and it looks
>like Café Kivah might be a good stop for brunch the next morning!
I'm not familiar with it. Could be I've eaten there, but don't
remember the name.
TammyM
wrote:
BIG CONGRATS from me too!! Are you going to live in NorCal? If so,
and if you would like to do so, I would love to meet up with you and
toast your nuptials (OUCH). I'll bet there are others in the area who
would like to do so as well.
TammyM in Sacramento
Dave Smith
Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> You argue with people over a few tenths of a point
> on the strength of the earthquake you just felt.
>
> "That's about a 4.5!"
>
> "No way -- 4.2 tops!"
LOL.... I didn't think you lived in California, but I could see you arguing
that.
Melba's Jammin'
"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
Is Lin a former rfc'er? From NZ (IIRC)?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller - snow pics added 3-3-2007
http://jamlady.eboard.com
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
Boron Elgar
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
That is a wonderful trip for a honeymoon. Best of luck to you both.
I almost got kicked out of San Simeon many years ago. The tour guide
was going on and on about how "all of Hollywood" was welcomed at San
Simeon during its heyday. I piped up rather loudly, "What about Orson
Welles?"
She wasn't happy with me at all.
Boron
Bob Terwilliger
> Married? Finally! Congratulations to you both.
FINALLY? Our first date was early October of last year!
>> we'll be traveling up the
>> California coast. We're stopping in San Simeon the first night,
>
> UP? I thought you were in the Sacramento area. When did you move?
> There is a B&B in the southern part of Cambria that we like. Where
> are you staying?
I still live in Lincoln, but we're getting married in San Diego. On our trip
north we'll be staying at the Orchid Inn in San Simeon.
>> and it looks like Café Kivah might be a good stop for brunch the next
>> morning!
>
> I'm not familiar with it. Could be I've eaten there, but don't
> remember the name.
It's attached to Nepenthe.
Bob
Lin
> That is a wonderful trip for a honeymoon. Best of luck to you both.
Thank you for the well wishes!
> I almost got kicked out of San Simeon many years ago. The tour guide
> was going on and on about how "all of Hollywood" was welcomed at San
> Simeon during its heyday. I piped up rather loudly, "What about Orson
> Welles?"
>
> She wasn't happy with me at all.
Now, that got quite the chuckle out of me!
You think we should visit the Hearst Castle while there? ;-)
--Lin
Puester
>
> I almost got kicked out of San Simeon many years ago. The tour guide
> was going on and on about how "all of Hollywood" was welcomed at San
> Simeon during its heyday. I piped up rather loudly, "What about Orson
> Welles?"
>
> She wasn't happy with me at all.
>
> Boron
We toured it in 1982 and I was totally turned off. While other people
were oohing and ahhing I was saying "This is obscene--he stole so many
of Europe's treasures to impress his friends and stroke his ego."
I don't care if he DID pay for the art and architectural items he
brought from Europe, they never should have left their original sites.
gloria p
Dave Smith
>
>
>
> We toured it in 1982 and I was totally turned off. While other people
> were oohing and ahhing I was saying "This is obscene--he stole so many
> of Europe's treasures to impress his friends and stroke his ego."
> I don't care if he DID pay for the art and architectural items he
> brought from Europe, they never should have left their original sites.
Why? Art belongs to the artist and the people who paid for it. Galleries
and museums around the world are full of works of art produced elsewhere.
Boron Elgar
Oh, yeah. It is definitely worth a visit. He ripped off some great
art, chapels and other buildings in Europe and plonked them down smack
in his house. Some of it is stunning in beauty, some just stunning in
massiveness.
You need reservations in advance, IIRC (check online, you may be able
to get them there), and you park down below and take a bus up to the
grounds. Don't forget your camera!
Boron
Boron Elgar
Whoops...almost forgot...if you are a nature lover, go visit Morro
Bay, too.
Boron
Lin
> Whoops...almost forgot...if you are a nature lover, go visit Morro
> Bay, too.
Wow! Did that tweak some memories ... I actually grew up in California
and I remember as a child going to Morro bay. I believe we did some
clamming there, as well as Pismo and San Luis Obispo.
Heck, I've even been grunion hunting at Redondo! Got tar all over my
feet that took hours of scrubbing off.
Ah. Good times ....
--Lin
Puester
Wait till someone buys the White House or the Washington Monument and
wants to move it to China....
Hearst walked into some of the castles of Europe and "bought" entire
rooms complete with walls and furniture for his "castle". Isn't that
close to stealing national treasures?
gloria p
Melondy
4 seasons of upstate New York. Loved going to the Hof Brau for fish in
Moro Bay and walk along the beach by the rock. And of course visiting
the massive sea lions lying on the beaches just past San Simeon. Oh, and
spnding the day and Jade Cove or Sand Dollar, a great place to sunbathe
in the altogether, wink wink. There is so much to do in the area.
Visiting wineries in the Paso Robles area, 2 missions in the county.
clamming at Pismo beach (you can even drive on the beach and camp right
on it. Memories......
Melondy, holding on tight to her keyboard as the snow squall blows and
blows through. Brrrrr......
Boron Elgar
wrote:
I love the area, myself, though I have never lived there. I used to
have a friend who managed an orchid nursery in Paso Robles. It was fun
to visit him and bring back goodies.
I'm in North Jersey with a howling wind and plunging temperatures
outside.
Time for some Dagoba Xocolatl - hot chocolate with chilies. That'll
warm things up.
Boron
Boron Elgar
wrote:
Today it is. Then it wasn't.
Let me know when the British Museum returns the Elgin Marbles.
Boron
Goomba38
> Hearst walked into some of the castles of Europe and "bought" entire
> rooms complete with walls and furniture for his "castle". Isn't that
> close to stealing national treasures?
>
> gloria p
Many of the great estates on Long Island's "Gold Coast" include much of
the same. Private sales by owners don't offend me.
I would have loved to get into some of those kitchens. Big old kitchens,
which I've mostly seen only in photographs or lithograph drawings hold
such a charm and mystique to me, yet they surely would have been so
inefficient?
Goomba38
> Time for some Dagoba Xocolatl - hot chocolate with chilies. That'll
> warm things up.
>
> Boron
Didn't an old RFC regular, perhaps not posting anymore, used to make a
chocolate cake with chilies? Was that Leila?? Does this ring a bell?
The combination sounds like something I'd like very much.
Steve Pope
> Hearst walked into some of the castles of Europe and "bought" entire
> rooms complete with walls and furniture for his "castle". Isn't that
> close to stealing national treasures?
If it's a work dating to antiquity, with archaeological value,
then yes. If it's simply some rich MF's castle (or more typically,
that of a once-wealthy family now in decline), then I have no problem
with it.
An aside, although Hearst did some of this acquisition himself
he delegated much of it to Julia Morgan.
Steve
Boron Elgar
wrote:
That is a bell I would love to hear ring. I hope someone posts it
(again).
Boron
Bob Terwilliger
> Is Lin a former rfc'er? From NZ (IIRC)?
Nope. Lin's fairly new to RFC; she was born in California and later
transplanted to Oklahoma.
Bob
Nancy Young
"Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote
> Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> Time for some Dagoba Xocolatl - hot chocolate with chilies. That'll
>> warm things up.
> Didn't an old RFC regular, perhaps not posting anymore, used to make a
> chocolate cake with chilies? Was that Leila?? Does this ring a bell?
> The combination sounds like something I'd like very much.
Ancho chili cake ... I made it, but I forget who posted it.
nancy
Mr Libido Incognito
> Ancho chili cake
Leila Abu-Saba
Sep 28 2002, 12:45 pm (and also in 1998)
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
From: Leila Abu-Saba <leila...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:06:18 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 28 2002 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Need food ideas for a halloween party...
This cake is not difficult to make although it takes some effort. I
think it's the perfect Halloween cake for grownups, especially if you
want to include the Hispanic Day of the Dead theme. I would decorate
with candy skulls or skeletons, if possible.
Chocolate Ancho Chile and Orange Cake
by Jacqueline McMahan from "The San Francisco Chronicle Cookbook"
Leila's Notes: I first baked this cake for a Halloween party. It's not
hard to make, intriguingly flavored. Very satisfying chocolate
experience, with a twist.
I use my 50th Anniversary Fiesta Bundt pan which looks like a cross
between a ziggurat and a bundt pan. It also looks vaguely Aztec. I like
the use of Mezo-American ingredients (chocolate and ancho chile) and
this weird neo-Aztec shape for a Halloween cake.
Halloween here in California is closely related to Dia De Los Muertes,
the Mexican Day of the Dead. I think of this cake as a Day of the Dead
cake.
1 c. unsalted butter at room temp.
1 1/2 cups sugar
5 eggs, room temp.
1 3/4 c. sifted all-purpose flour
1/2 tsp salt
Grated zest of 2 oranges
2 tablespoons orange juice
1 tsp baking soda
1/2 cup Chocolate Syrup (recipe follows)
4 tbls Ancho Chile Puree (recipe follows)
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
Orange Glaze (recipe follows)
Preheat oven to 350 F. Butter a 10 in. bundt pan.
Beat the butter, gradually beat in sugar. Add eggs 1 at a time, beating
well after each. Slowly beat in flour & salt. Divide the batter in half.
To half of the batter, add
orange zest, orange juice and 1/2 tsp of baking soda. Spoon batter into
the prepared pan.
To remaining batter, add chocolate syrup, ancho puree, vanilla and the
remaining 1/2 tsp baking soda. Spread over the orange batter.
Bake 45-50 mins, or until cake tester inserted in middle comes out
clean. Cool the cake in its pan on a rack for 10 min., then unmold onto
a plate. Brush with the
orange glaze.
You may drizzle an additional 1/4 cup chocolate syrup over the cake just
before serving, if desired.
Serves 10
Chocolate Syrup
1/2 c. water
1/4 c. butter
2 Tbls. honey
8 oz. semisweet chocolate
1 oz unsweetened chocolate
Combine all ingredients in a saucepan. Heat gently, stirring, until
syrup is silky and smooth. Yields about 1 1/2 cups.
Ancho Chile Puree
4 ancho chiles (found in Mexican or Southwestern grocery stores)
Boiling water to cover
Rinse chiles. Place in a bowl & cover with boiling water; let soak for
at least 2 hours. Remove seeds and stems from the chiles. Place chiles &
1/2 c. of soaking
water in a blender. (If soaking liquid tastes bitter, use fresh water
instead). Puree on high speed until smooth. May be refrigerated up to
one week, or frozen.
Yields 3/4 c. puree
Orange glaze
Juice of 1 orange
1/2 cup powdered sugar
1 Tablespoon Grand Marnier
Combine - yields about 3/4 cup.
Puester
> "Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote
>
>> Didn't an old RFC regular, perhaps not posting anymore, used to make a
>> chocolate cake with chilies? Was that Leila?? Does this ring a bell?
>> The combination sounds like something I'd like very much.
>
> Ancho chili cake ... I made it, but I forget who posted it.
>
> nancy
>
>
She says:
Whenever I mention this cake, I need to make sure I have the online
recipe version available, because people always ask about it. The
combination of ingredients seems unusual but I guarantee that any
chocolate lover will really appreciate it. It's the 4th time I've
reposted this to RFC!!! It's a good potluck cake when you want to
impress, because cautious eaters will like it, while sophisticated
eaters will be interested and amused by the ingredients.
I baked this cake in October 1998 for the first time, after
disappointing Evergene at the May RFC BBQ cook-in (I hinted I might make
it, then didn't!). Used the "50th Anniversary Fiesta Bundt pan" which
looks like a
cross between a ziggurat and a bundt pan. It also looks vaguely Aztec.
Later, to redeem myself in RFC's eyes, I did bake the cake for the New
Year's 1999 'Stravaganza, and folks assured me that it's really a good
cake.
I like the use of Mezo-American ingredients (chocolate and ancho chile)
and this weird neo-Aztec shape for a Halloween cake. Halloween here in
California is closely related to Dia De Los Muertes, the Mexican Day of
the Dead. I think of this cake as a Day of the Dead cake. But it's also
a great holiday cake for those who want a change from fruit cake.
>
>The recipe is by Jacqueline McMahan and was published in the San
>Francisco Chronicle Cookbook.
>
>1 c. unsalted butter at room temp.
>1 1/2 cups sugar
>5 eggs, room temp.
>1 3/4 c. sifted all-purpose flour
>1/2 tsp salt
>Grated zest of 2 oranges
>2 tablespoons o.j.
>1 tsp baking soda
>1/2 cup Chocolate Syrup (recipe follows)
>4 tbls Ancho Chile Puree (recipe follows)
>2 teaspoons vanilla extract
>Orange Glaze (recipe follows)
>
>Preheat oven to 350 F. Butter a 10 in. bundt pan.
>
>Beat the butter, gradually beat in sugar. Add eggs 1 at a time,
beating well after each. Slowly beat in flour & salt. Divide the batter
in half. To half of the batter, add orange zest, orange juice and 1/2
tsp of baking soda. Spoon batter into the prepared pan.
>
>To remaining batter, add chocolate syrup, ancho puree, vanilla and the
remaining 1/2 tsp baking soda. Spread over the orange batter.
>
>Bake 45-50 mins, or until cake tester inserted in middle comes out
clean. Cool the cake in its pan on a rack for 10 min., then unmold onto
a plate. Brush with the orange glaze.
>
>You may drizzle an additional 1/4 cup chocolate syrup over the cake
just before serving, if desired.
>
>Serves 10
>
>Chocolate Syrup
>1/2 c. water
>1/4 c. butter
>2 Tbls. honey
>8 oz. semisweet chocolate
>1 oz unsweetened chocolate
>
>combine all ingredients in a saucepan. Heat gently, stirring, until
syrup is silky and smooth. Yields about 1 1/2 cups.
>
>Ancho Chile Puree
>
>4 ancho chiles (found in Mexican or Southwestern grocery stores)
>BOiling water to cover
>
>Rinse chiles. Place in a bowl & cover with boiling water; let soak for
at least 2 hours. Remove seeds and stems from the chiles. Place chiles &
1/2 c. of soaking water in a blender. (If soaking liquid tastes bitter,
use fresh water instead). Puree on high speed until smooth.
>May be refrigerated up to one week, or frozen. Yields 3/4 c. puree
>
>Orange glaze
>
>Juice of 1 orange
>1/2 cup powdered sugar
>1 Tablespoon Grand Marnier
>
>Combine - yields about 3/4 cup.
>
>
gloria p
Dave Smith
>
>
> > Why? Art belongs to the artist and the people who paid for it. Galleries
> > and museums around the world are full of works of art produced elsewhere.
>
> Wait till someone buys the White House or the Washington Monument and
> wants to move it to China....
It wouldn't bother me. My ancestors tried to burn it down. :-)
> Hearst walked into some of the castles of Europe and "bought" entire
> rooms complete with walls and furniture for his "castle". Isn't that
> close to stealing national treasures?
>
> gloria p
"Bought"? That sounds more like buying than stealing.
Paris is famous for its art museums, but a lot of the artwork was done
elsewhere. One of the most famous pieces in the Louvre, the one that
everyone has a quick look at is the Mona Lisa, a French national treasure,
owned by the French government, but painted in Italy by an Italian. Hearst
has done no worse than other art collectors, royal families and national
galleries around the world. Some countries are trying to coerce galleries
to return art that they claim was stolen from them. Westerners went into
has been nations and salvaged art work from ruins, dug up artefacts that
none of the locals knew or cared about. The Chinese government has been
demanding the return of national treasures from Taiwan that the
nationalists took with them when escaping from the revolution. If they had
not "stolen" <?> the art it would likely not even exist anymore because the
crazy bastards in China destroyed everything else during the Cultural
Revolution.
Don Gray
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:55:29 GMT, Puester wrote:
>>
>>Wait till someone buys the White House or the Washington Monument and
>>wants to move it to China....
>>
>>Hearst walked into some of the castles of Europe and "bought" entire
>>rooms complete with walls and furniture for his "castle". Isn't that
>>close to stealing national treasures?
>>
>>gloria p
>
>
> Today it is. Then it wasn't.
>
> Let me know when the British Museum returns the Elgin Marbles.
>
> Boron
Or the American who bought 'London Bridge' and had it dismantled stone
by stone and had it shipped across the Atlantic. That is until he
found out he'd been 'goosed' into buying the wrong bridge ;-) It
wasn't the one with the famous cantelivered spans.
--
Don
PeterLucas
>>
>> Let me know when the British Museum returns the Elgin Marbles.
>>
>> Boron
>
> Or the American who bought 'London Bridge' and had it dismantled stone
> by stone and had it shipped across the Atlantic.
The Poms have the remains of 17 Tasmainian Aboriginies that they don't want
to hand back........ as yet.
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,21309678-401,00.html?
from=public_rss
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual
beings having a human experience.
- Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Sheldon
> You know you're in California when.....
You think Der Weinerschnitzel is fine dining.
Sheldon
TammyM
<boron...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 5 Mar 2007 12:16:38 -0800, "Lin" <grafixb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That is a wonderful trip for a honeymoon. Best of luck to you both.
>>
>>Thank you for the well wishes!
>>
>>> I almost got kicked out of San Simeon many years ago. The tour guide
>>> was going on and on about how "all of Hollywood" was welcomed at San
>>> Simeon during its heyday. I piped up rather loudly, "What about Orson
>>> Welles?"
>>>
>>> She wasn't happy with me at all.
>>
>>Now, that got quite the chuckle out of me!
>>
>>You think we should visit the Hearst Castle while there? ;-)
>>
>>--Lin
>
>Oh, yeah. It is definitely worth a visit. He ripped off some great
>art, chapels and other buildings in Europe and plonked them down smack
>in his house. Some of it is stunning in beauty, some just stunning in
>massiveness.
I used to work for a small airline company (one of my many part-time
jobs, Back in The Day) that provided tours to various places, Hearst
being one of them. I remember one of the pilots calling it William
Randolf Hearst's Monument to Bad Taste.
<snip>
TammyM
Sheldon
> "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
> news:45E7AD37...@sonic.net...
>
> > You argue with people over a few tenths of a point
> > on the strength of the earthquake you just felt.
>
> > "That's about a 4.5!"
>
> > "No way -- 4.2 tops!"
>
> Actually, most of us barely pause to notice an earthquake, even if it's big
> enough to feel.
So much about CA is fake and so many are stoned out of their guards
all the time that yoose can't even differenciate between an earthquake
tremor and an orgasm... the only place on he planet where silicone
valley is cleavage.
blake murphy
wrote:
that would be the cook's problem, not the owner's.
your proletarian pal,
blake
Lin
> BIG CONGRATS from me too!! Are you going to live in NorCal? If so,
> and if you would like to do so, I would love to meet up with you and
> toast your nuptials (OUCH). I'll bet there are others in the area who
> would like to do so as well.
My "nuptials" are pretty tender at the moment, TYVM! ;-)
I know that the both of us would love to have a gathering.
Of course, I will be needing to make new friends in the great
California northland! Bob speaks quite hightly of you. Thank you for
your well wishes.
--Lin
TammyM
>TammyM wrote:
>
>
>> BIG CONGRATS from me too!! Are you going to live in NorCal? If so,
>> and if you would like to do so, I would love to meet up with you and
>> toast your nuptials (OUCH). I'll bet there are others in the area who
>> would like to do so as well.
>
>My "nuptials" are pretty tender at the moment, TYVM! ;-)
>
>I know that the both of us would love to have a gathering.
Let's plan it!
>Of course, I will be needing to make new friends in the great
>California northland!
I think we're "of an age", Lin. No one has too many friends and I am
always happy to make another!
> Bob speaks quite hightly of you. Thank you for
>your well wishes.
Awwww! That makes me happy, but more importantly, I'm glad to witness
a happily ever after :-)
kindest regards,
TammyM
Don Gray
> Don Gray <don...@scarlet.be> wrote in news:227751b...@belgacom.net:
>>>
>>> Let me know when the British Museum returns the Elgin Marbles.
>>>
>>> Boron
>>
>> Or the American who bought 'London Bridge' and had it dismantled stone
>> by stone and had it shipped across the Atlantic.
>
>
> The Poms have the remains of 17 Tasmainian Aboriginies that they don't want
> to hand back........ as yet.
>
> Peter Lucas
I agree with that absolutely Peter, but Aussies haven't exactly got a
clean record when dealing with their indigenous population either,
have they.....so far.
--
Don
PeterLucas
We pay them heaps of money, they don't have to work, they get everything
for free, they get off with slaps on the wrist for crimes they
commit......
Personally, I hate the black bastards,
But only those that abuse the system.
I have stated before, as I will again............
I am an equal opportunity bigot.
I hate *everyone*.
You humans suck.