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Christopher M.

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Feb 7, 2013, 1:53:56 PM2/7/13
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I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell
peanuts.

I'm really craving them.

I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts?

Or maybe I"m craving the salt?

Or because their roasted?

Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack pack of
cookies?

Or the fat?

http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)


Chemo

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Feb 7, 2013, 2:05:16 PM2/7/13
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You've been watching too many gay porn movies.

Steve Freides

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Feb 7, 2013, 2:36:25 PM2/7/13
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Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile.

Peanuts aren't nuts.

Roasting brings out the flavor - I regularly buy almonds, peanuts, and
cashews already dry-roasted.

I don't think anyone craves vitamins or omega-3's - what do those things
taste like? I think you can crave salt, and fat.

-S-



Bryan

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Feb 7, 2013, 2:55:58 PM2/7/13
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote:
> Christopher M. wrote:
>
> > I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell
>
> > peanuts.
>
> >
>
> > I'm really craving them.
>
> >
>
> > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts?
>
> >
>
> > Or maybe I"m craving the salt?
>
> >
>
> > Or because their roasted?
>
> >
>
> > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack
>
> > pack of cookies?
>
> >
>
> > Or the fat?
>
> >
>
> > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
>
> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile.
>
Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews.
>
> Peanuts aren't nuts.
>
No, they are not.
>
> Roasting brings out the flavor - I regularly buy almonds, peanuts, and
>
> cashews already dry-roasted.
>
Peanuts and cashews are the two nuts that I prefer roasted. Everything else,
I'd rather have raw. Roasting changes the flavors. As much as I love raw
almonds, I don't even really like roasted ones.
>
> I don't think anyone craves vitamins or omega-3's - what do those things
>
> taste like? I think you can crave salt, and fat.
>
Christopher is "a Bear of Little Brain."
>
> -S-

--Bryan

Ophelia

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Feb 7, 2013, 3:00:37 PM2/7/13
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Christopher M.

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Feb 7, 2013, 3:31:08 PM2/7/13
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"Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher M. wrote:
>> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell
>> peanuts.
>>
>> I'm really craving them.
>>
>> I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts?
>>
>> Or maybe I"m craving the salt?
>>
>> Or because their roasted?
>>
>> Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack
>> pack of cookies?
>>
>> Or the fat?
>>
>> http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile.
>
> Peanuts aren't nuts.

I seem to be craving pistachios more than peanuts. Although I like the
novely of cracking the peanut shells.

Chemo

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Feb 7, 2013, 3:27:37 PM2/7/13
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Give you a piece of string and you'll stay occupied for hours!

sf

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Feb 7, 2013, 4:30:43 PM2/7/13
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Don't you get your daily allotment by reading rfc on a daily basis?

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James Silverton

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Feb 7, 2013, 5:14:34 PM2/7/13
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You are addicted like me! Well, I am told that pistachios are good for
the heart!

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Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

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Steve Freides

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Feb 7, 2013, 6:00:35 PM2/7/13
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John J wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:55:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile.
>>>
>> Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews.
>
> Mwoah.
>
> "[Macadania nuts] have the highest amount of monounsaturated fats of
> any known seed and contain approximately 22% of omega-7 palmitoleic
> acid,[8] which has biological effects similar to saturated fat."
>
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadamia)

And you think this is bad - why?

-S-


Julie Bove

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Feb 7, 2013, 6:40:54 PM2/7/13
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"Christopher M." <nospam_...@loo.com> wrote in message
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Most likely it is some nutrient in them. Pistachios are high in potassium.
Peanuts contain a lot of stuff. Here's a link:

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/peanuts.html


Julie Bove

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Feb 7, 2013, 7:12:18 PM2/7/13
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"Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote in message
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Actually I do. I once had severe cravings for tabbouli, a food that I don't
normally even think about. Turns out I was lacking in magnesium. Recently
I had a severe craving for tomatoes but had none. I popped open a small can
of tomato sauce, ate three bites and the craving was gone.

People who are low on iron can sometimes have Pica, which is a craving for
things like laundry starch, or even dirt.


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nore...@no.com

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Feb 7, 2013, 8:32:30 PM2/7/13
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Maybe you're going nuts :)

Bryan

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Feb 7, 2013, 11:10:01 PM2/7/13
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Well, the effect on plasma lipids appears to be quite negative-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8006520
Generally, it's 18 carbons, good; 16 carbons (and 14 and to a lesser extent,
12), bad.
It seems like there is quite a bit of buzz out there about the benefits
of palmitoleic acid-
http://www.lipidworld.com/content/10/1/120
It seems that palmitoleic as a free fatty acid in the bloodstream was
beneficial, but in the mouse study, the palmitoleic was injected, and
I didn't read anything about how much of the palmitoleic is converted into palmitic by the liver. This is real-ass interesting.

Hey, did you see my cocoa butter snack post? I think one thing is for sure
now; the 18 carbon saturated fat, stearic acid, which cocoa butter is high in, is good stuff. It's not primarily the monounsaturated characteristic of high oleic oils that are so healthful, but the 18 carbon chain length, and it is
only the Omega-9 trans 18 carbon that is bad news--*really* bad news.

For now, the only thing that limits my consumption of macadamias is the cost. Raw macadamias are totally delicious, and the roasted ones are pretty good too.
IMO, the only nuts that are better cooked are cashews, which taste weird raw.

Peanuts and sunflower seeds--neither of which are nuts--also need to be cooked to taste good.
>
> -S-

--Bryan

Bryan

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Feb 7, 2013, 11:56:41 PM2/7/13
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:49:54 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:00:35 -0500, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com>
> Because saturated fat's bad for you.
>
Steve F. knows so much more about fatty acids that you that it isn't even
funny. Few other than me can even engage in a reasonable discussion with
him about dietary fats. I disagree with him about certain saturated fats,
but those finer points are *way* beyond your knowledge set.
>
> --
>
> John

--Bryan
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John Kuthe

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Feb 8, 2013, 9:17:17 AM2/8/13
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:10:01 -0800 (PST), Bryan
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

Obsessing more on fats? Showing off knowledge anyone can get off the
Internet today? Too bad you don't have any degrees or real education.

John Kuthe...


Steve Freides

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Feb 8, 2013, 11:29:16 AM2/8/13
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John J wrote:

> Because saturated fat's bad for you.

John, a very simple rule to follow - man-made fats aren't good for you.
Naturally occurring fats are fine. It doesn't have to be more
complicated than The typical man-made fats are "hydrogenated." These
are the fats to stay away from.

The idea that dietary fat and cholesterol from natural sources are bad
for you is simply not true. You don't need to concern yourself with the
kind of fat found in nuts.

-S-


Gary

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Feb 8, 2013, 4:19:39 PM2/8/13
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John Kuthe wrote:

John. My grocery store is selling this week (on sale?) chocolate covered
strawberries. 4 of them for $6.99. Are they kidding me? nope...it's a real
sale for inflated Valentine's Day prices.

From what I've read, YOU are really good with your Christmas candy making.
Even Bryan has said that you do candy well. Have you ever considered making
and selling your candy? You start off small, not much investment,...offer
them online...and also give a dozen to local stores to try... and if sales
take off....well....sometimes these small businesses really take off if the
product is "all that."

If you really *are* "the candy man," a simple side venture could possibly
turn into a career once word got around. Kuthe Candies, 2020...A Fortune
500 company. :)

Gary

meda...@gmail.com

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:00:37 PM2/8/13
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Are you joking?!? Success and Kuthe are mutually exclusive. He's a nasty little man who's failed in three careers, marriage, fatherhood and many friendships.

Chemo

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:33:09 PM2/8/13
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So...tell us about your success.

meda...@gmail.com

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:39:55 PM2/8/13
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Why? Nobody's interested in me any more than they are in Kuthe.

Chemo

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Feb 8, 2013, 6:01:27 PM2/8/13
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Well...that's true. Buh-bye!

meda...@gmail.com

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Feb 8, 2013, 6:16:40 PM2/8/13
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Thanks for weighing in, half wit. It means SO much to me. Buh-bye!

Chemo

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Feb 8, 2013, 6:22:50 PM2/8/13
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Hey...I said Buh-bye first. Come up with your own buh-bye.
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Bryan

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Feb 8, 2013, 9:40:31 PM2/8/13
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On Friday, February 8, 2013 7:51:47 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:16 -0500, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com>
> But how about this then:
>
>
>
> "Adopt a diet low in salt, saturated and transfats and high in
>
> unsaturated fats (fish, avocado, etc.) like the Mediterranean Diet."
>
>
>
> This is a recommendation for reducing the risk of heart disease, from
>
> the US Heart Foundation (and probably all the other countries' heart
>
> foundations).
>
> (http://www.theheartfoundation.org/heart-disease-facts/reducing-your-risk/)
>
>
>
> They distinguish between saturated and unsaturated. Are they wrong?
>
Yes, they are, and Steve gets it more than halfway. He just doesn't
acknowledge that certain natural saturated fatty acids *are* bad. The
18 carbon, fully saturated, stearic acid is healthful, and the reason
that they make the saturated/unsaturated distinction is because they
assume that folks can't make those distinctions. However much you dislike
me, you really ought to take what I write about fatty acids into advisement.
I'm not asking you to believe me, but to delve deeper into the subject.

My disagreement with Steve is over the 16 and 14, and to a somewhat lesser extent, the 12 carbon fatty acids. We do not disagree about other fats, and
I certainly do not want him to die. I regularly consume a food high in
palmitic and myristic acids, butter fat, mostly in the form of half&half
in my coffee, but I get so much pleasure from it that I accept the risk.
>
> --
>
> John

--Bryan

Bryan

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Feb 8, 2013, 9:47:26 PM2/8/13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I tell folks that rather than believing the building custodian who has blue hair, that they should investigate the subject of dietary fats.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

Steve Freides

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Feb 8, 2013, 9:53:39 PM2/8/13
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John J wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:16 -0500, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com>
> wrote:
>
> But how about this then:
>
> "Adopt a diet low in salt, saturated and transfats and high in
> unsaturated fats (fish, avocado, etc.) like the Mediterranean Diet."
>
> This is a recommendation for reducing the risk of heart disease, from
> the US Heart Foundation (and probably all the other countries' heart
> foundations).
> (http://www.theheartfoundation.org/heart-disease-facts/reducing-your-risk/)
>
> They distinguish between saturated and unsaturated. Are they wrong?

Yes, they are wrong. Bryan's points are relevant but I don't think most
of us benefit from that level of detail in our discussion of dietary fat
and serum cholesterol.

I also don't see any point in rehashing what's been hashed out a million
times before. There is conflicting information out there - read and
decide for yourself, but don't just read from a single source, and don't
assume that that anything you read is unbiased. To my simple mind, it
makes sense that food from natural sources is, with rare exception, good
for you. If you haven't realized that much of what's sold in your
grocery store exists to make a profit and not to provide the best
nourishment, then I can't help you.

Again, I recommend the book, "The Great Cholesterol Con" - I don't wish
to summarize the entire book but you can go on amazon.com and read the
reviews.

-S-


Bryan

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Feb 8, 2013, 10:06:32 PM2/8/13
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John is skilled at candy making, but he is doing something more valuable to
society. I'm confident that he will no longer let his personality flaws
interfere with his career in nursing.
>
> Gary

--Bryan

meda...@gmail.com

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Feb 8, 2013, 11:24:07 PM2/8/13
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You live in the same city and you know damned well he's been black-balled (you're welcome, St. Louis). He is not employable by any business that does much more than meals on wheels. Even without my help, the most cursory background check would make him a washout for any real healthcare job. WITH my help, he hasn't been able to even get an interview in the past year. I'd like for you or Kuthe to actually deny that. Than I'll know what level of lying I'm dealing with. And, Kuthe - go ahead and piss me off some more. You have no idea how far I can go.

bigwheel

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Feb 8, 2013, 11:49:55 PM2/8/13
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'Christopher M.[_5_ Wrote:
> ;1811403']I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some
> in-shell peanuts. I'm really craving them.

I will vote for the salt fetish angle.




--
bigwheel

Bryan

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Feb 9, 2013, 9:32:01 AM2/9/13
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On Friday, February 8, 2013 10:24:07 PM UTC-6, meda...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 10:06:32 PM UTC-5, Bryan wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 8, 2013 3:19:39 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > John Kuthe wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > John. My grocery store is selling this week (on sale?) chocolate covered
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > strawberries. 4 of them for $6.99. Are they kidding me? nope...it's a real
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > sale for inflated Valentine's Day prices.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From what I've read, YOU are really good with your Christmas candy making.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Even Bryan has said that you do candy well. Have you ever considered making
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and selling your candy? You start off small, not much investment,...offer
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > them online...and also give a dozen to local stores to try... and if sales
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > take off....well....sometimes these small businesses really take off if the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > product is "all that."
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > If you really *are* "the candy man," a simple side venture could possibly
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > turn into a career once word got around. Kuthe Candies, 2020...A Fortune
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > 500 company. :)
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > John is skilled at candy making, but he is doing something more valuable to
>
> >
>
> > society. I'm confident that he will no longer let his personality flaws
>
> >
>
> > interfere with his career in nursing.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Gary
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --Bryan
>
>
>
> You live in the same city and you know damned well he's been black-balled
> (you're welcome, St. Louis).

How would I know that?


> He is not employable by any business that does much more than meals on
> wheels. Even without my help, the most cursory background check would make
> him a washout for any real healthcare job. WITH my help, he hasn't been
> able to even get an interview in the past year. I'd like for you or Kuthe
> to actually deny that. Than I'll know what level of lying I'm dealing with.
> And, Kuthe - go ahead and piss me off some more. You have no idea how far
> I can go.

I don't know. There are plenty of folks who have worse academic records,
have committed worse indiscretions, and who *maybe* even have even worse
personalities, who get jobs in health care. I, of course, don't know what sort of job he has because we no longer have anything to do with each other in the real world, and wouldn't on Usenet if he would quit initiating it.

--Bryan

sf

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Feb 9, 2013, 10:00:34 AM2/9/13
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 06:32:01 -0800 (PST), Bryan
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Gary
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --Bryan

Do you have any idea what your posts look like? Trim the damn things,
clean them up manually or get a real news reader.

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bigwheel

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Feb 9, 2013, 4:50:42 PM2/9/13
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John J Because saturated fat's bad for you. John[/QUOTE Wrote:
>
>
> No no. Saturated fat is very good for you. Whatever dumb doctor who
> started the rumor to the contrary should be hoss whupped.




--
bigwheel

Steve Freides

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Feb 10, 2013, 12:14:48 AM2/10/13
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John J wrote:

>> Again, I recommend the book, "The Great Cholesterol Con" - I don't
>> wish to summarize the entire book but you can go on amazon.com and
>> read the reviews.
>
> Thanks, I'll read that book.

Very good. Dr. Mercola's site is worth a visit for its articles on this
subject as well, IMHO.

-S-


Bryan

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Feb 10, 2013, 12:54:57 AM2/10/13
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But Mercola is a certified kook.
>
> -S-

--Bryan

George M. Middius

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Feb 10, 2013, 10:52:18 AM2/10/13
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Bryan wrote:

> > Very good. Dr. Mercola's site is worth a visit for its articles on this
> > subject as well, IMHO.

> But Mercola is a certified kook.

How do you get certified for that? Personally, I'd certify a great many
Usenetters, but your claim sounds kind of official.


Steve Freides

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Feb 10, 2013, 11:15:00 AM2/10/13
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I'm not a Dr. Mercola "fan" - I don't subscribe to anything and I visit
his site perhaps a few times a year if I'm researching something for
myself. But I don't think he's crazy; I think he's got interesting
things to say, and I also find him a healthy skeptic about many things.

-S-


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harp.do...@gmail.com

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Your body craves what it’s missing, not necessarily a flavor. I.e. you crave chocolate for the fat, potatoes for the irons and minerals not necessarily for the flavor

Roy

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Oct 31, 2017, 4:28:28 PM10/31/17
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Dr. Mercola's site is full of untruths and bull****. One of the biggest QUACKS
who ever walked this earth IMHO.

graham

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Oct 31, 2017, 5:36:39 PM10/31/17
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Shhhhh! I bought his homeopathic remedy for gullibility:-)

Bruce

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Oct 31, 2017, 5:44:59 PM10/31/17
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Me too and I believe it worked!

Julie Bove

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Oct 31, 2017, 10:53:12 PM10/31/17
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Some of what he said is true. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

graham

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That's less than 2 minutes out of 1440. so he's right less than 14 times
out of one thousand.

Roy

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Nov 1, 2017, 12:31:12 PM11/1/17
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Julie, you are so gullible.

Casa de los peregrinos

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Nov 1, 2017, 1:01:07 PM11/1/17
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harp.do...@gmail.com formulated the question :
> Your body craves what it’s missing, not necessarily a flavor. I.e. you crave
> chocolate for the fat, potatoes for the irons and minerals not necessarily
> for the flavor
>

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kYfov5eg2lA/maxresdefault.jpg

Casa de los peregrinos

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Nov 1, 2017, 1:24:39 PM11/1/17
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sqwerty forged

Julie Bove

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You do not understand sarcasm. Do ya?

Casa de los peregrinos

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Roy boy is as hopelessly literal as the plains are flat.
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