I threw out all the Chocolate Covered Cherries! 2 months out!

John Kuthe

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Feb 20, 2019, 2:47:06 PM2/20/19

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All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

tert in seattle

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Feb 20, 2019, 3:10:05 PM2/20/19

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johnk...@gmail.com writes:
>All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
>
>John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

so did you got zero MPG, or negative MPG from the hauling of this stuff
around to end up in the dump?

John Kuthe

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Feb 20, 2019, 3:30:57 PM2/20/19

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??? I just threw it in the existing partially full garbage can in my bedroom with a trash can liner in it and pitched it out with the garbage pickup this afternoon.

I ate one, it was a LOT of great chocolate and one wish-it-had-not-leaked cherry! Oh well, I can always make 'em again!

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Thomas

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Feb 20, 2019, 5:41:37 PM2/20/19

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Make chocolate. Plan to sell chocolate. Toss in garbage.
Good planning.

Hank Rogers

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Feb 20, 2019, 5:46:17 PM2/20/19

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A terrible waste, yoose should have thrown them out yoose window like
Popeye to feed yoose varmints. Or yoose could have fed them to those injuns.

dsi1

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Feb 20, 2019, 5:49:21 PM2/20/19

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
>
> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Using fresh cherries is likely the problem - too much water. You can't use maraschino cherries either - too much water.

tert in seattle

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Feb 20, 2019, 6:20:04 PM2/20/19

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cano...@yahoo.com writes:
>Make chocolate. Plan to sell chocolate. Toss in garbage.
>Good planning.

fucken tomas, killin it as usual

John Kuthe

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Feb 20, 2019, 6:39:30 PM2/20/19

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:41:37 PM UTC-6, Thomas wrote:
> Make chocolate. Plan to sell chocolate. Toss in garbage.
> Good planning.

I have a BUNCH of stuff left that WE are still eating! I made a HUGE batch of Caramel Pecan Things, an extra English Toffee, etc just in case (Orders?) which never happened!

I can AFFORD IT! I'm wealthy, remember? :-)

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Bruce

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Feb 20, 2019, 7:15:06 PM2/20/19

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:39:27 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:41:37 PM UTC-6, Thomas wrote:
>> Make chocolate. Plan to sell chocolate. Toss in garbage.
>> Good planning.
>
>I have a BUNCH of stuff left that WE are still eating! I made a HUGE batch of Caramel Pecan Things, an extra English Toffee, etc just in case (Orders?) which never happened!

Maybe if you made it possible for people to buy directly from your
website? Even just within your state? With credit card or PayPal?
Maybe that would help?

Alex

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Feb 20, 2019, 7:24:18 PM2/20/19

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At least there is no candy income to declare. Have you gathered your
rental income receipts from 2018 yet?

Alex

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Feb 20, 2019, 7:26:12 PM2/20/19

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Wealthy people don't have unpaid income taxes that continue to accrue
interest and penalties!

John Kuthe

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Feb 20, 2019, 7:53:59 PM2/20/19

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I just came through a severely GOOD yet traumatic LIFE CHANGING EVENT!! Death of my Father, Inheritance of a small fortune (JEALOUS yet?), along, drawn out purchase of a piece of real estate and a year long rehabbing of said real estate to get it to pass building codes, etc. So HOW ABOUT you just MYOB? Asshole! :-(

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Bruce

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Feb 20, 2019, 7:56:25 PM2/20/19

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Do you dream of tax inspectors?

John Kuthe

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Feb 20, 2019, 8:08:31 PM2/20/19

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He's probably had a lot of interactions with them! I smell a tax cheater WHO GOT CAUGHT!! They are always happiest to ruin anyone else's parade too! Their reasoning: I got caught so everyone else should to! :-(

Sad really!

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Bruce

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Feb 20, 2019, 8:16:12 PM2/20/19

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I think he's got the hots for a tax inspector.

Hank Rogers

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Feb 20, 2019, 8:51:59 PM2/20/19

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Nobody would even know these things if yoose didn't post your business
constantly.

You simply can't keep your damn mouth shut, so expect others to "mind
your business".

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 21, 2019, 5:59:21 AM2/21/19

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Think of the petroleum used to ship the cherries and chocolate from
South America to St. Louis. Wasted.

Cindy Hamilton

John Kuthe

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:33:09 AM2/21/19

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You mean BURNED UP into our planet's ATMOSPHERE!! :-(

A 7 mile wide meteor did it TO the Dinosaurs in ONE DAY! 6th Extinction, from which Humans sprung, and we did it over a couple of hundred YEARS!! 2nd Industrial REVOLUTION, remember? Steam (for which we burned ANYTHING to boil water!), then OIL/PETROLEUM!!! And WE ARE STILL BURNING IT! And anything else we can find. :-(

Should have LEFT IT ALL UNDERGROUND!

John Kuthe...

Nancy2

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:34:13 AM2/21/19

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ds, aren't the commercial ones made with fresh cherries? Those aren't watery....

N.

John Kuthe

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:44:08 AM2/21/19

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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:34:13 AM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
> ds, aren't the commercial ones made with fresh cherries? Those aren't watery....
>
> N.

Um, no. Commercial CCC are made with those ultra-preserved Maraschino Cherries that are not even classified as food to the FDA! The FDA classifies maraschino cherries as DECORATIONS! Do you know how maraschino cherries are made? I do! First, they SUCK OUT all the color and flavor of real cherries, then infuse FAKE color and flavor INTO THEM!

Maraschino Cherries are FAKE CHERRIES!! Practically PLASTIC! :-( Just because they are red, sweet and flavored DOES NOT MEAN they are GOOD!

Mother Gaia makes cherries GOOD!

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 21, 2019, 9:09:16 AM2/21/19

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YOU are still burning it, John.

You burned it (had it burned on your behalf, strictly speaking)
to make and then discard your chocolate-covered cherries. It's equivalent
to getting in your minivan and driving around the block a few times without
going anywhere.

Cindy Hamilton

GM

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Feb 21, 2019, 9:58:54 AM2/21/19

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Your last sentence is a pretty good summation of John's life "situation", lol...

--
Best
Greg

Gary

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Feb 21, 2019, 10:03:17 AM2/21/19

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John Kuthe wrote:
>
>Do you know how maraschino cherries are made? I do!
>First, they SUCK OUT all the color and flavor of real cherries,
>then infuse FAKE color and flavor INTO THEM!

Oh crap and creepy. Do you not see that this is exactly what
funeral homes do to our dear departed ones? >;o

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 1:18:39 PM2/21/19

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Fake colour and fake flavour. I'd have thought that's right up your
alley, Gary. Man, you're such a snob!

Gary

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Feb 21, 2019, 1:28:31 PM2/21/19

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Your finally comment makes no sense, troll-boy. :)

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 1:38:24 PM2/21/19

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I was referring to the fact that you compare fake food to funeral
homes. Fake food's great. The industry did their best to make it taste
good for us! They put all these chemicals in to make it just perfect.
What kind of organic banana sucking snob wouldn't like that?

dsi1

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Feb 21, 2019, 2:57:56 PM2/21/19

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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:34:13 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> ds, aren't the commercial ones made with fresh cherries? Those aren't watery....
>
> N.

The ones that I have had are made with glaceed cherries. Those have had their water replaced with a sugar syrup. They aren't made with maraschino cherries either. Maraschino cherries have had some of their water replaced with an light almond flavored syrup.

Hank Rogers

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Feb 21, 2019, 4:50:14 PM2/21/19

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Yabut, those ships and trucks burn diesel fuel. Aircraft burn jet fuel,
same stuff as kerosene, just spec'ed and tested better.

They burn *NO GASOLINE*

So, he's safe, and his cherries burn *NO GASOLINE*

Alex

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:31:33 PM2/21/19

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You got one thing right - "small" fortune. I've earned my money over
the years through hard work and long hours. No jealousy here. I have
more in the bank than you inherited.

Remember that you put this all out there for all to read for some reason
that you only know.

Alex

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:32:31 PM2/21/19

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I pay a lot in taxes and believe everyone should pay their fair share,
too. What's wrong with that?

Alex

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:33:05 PM2/21/19

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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 6:56:25 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 19:24:10 -0500, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:10:05 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>> johnk...@gmail.com writes:
>>>>>> All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>>>> so did you got zero MPG, or negative MPG from the hauling of this stuff
>>>>> around to end up in the dump?
>>>> ??? I just threw it in the existing partially full garbage can in my bedroom with a trash can liner in it and pitched it out with the garbage pickup this afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> I ate one, it was a LOT of great chocolate and one wish-it-had-not-leaked cherry! Oh well, I can always make 'em again!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>> At least there is no candy income to declare. Have you gathered your
>>> rental income receipts from 2018 yet?
>> Do you dream of tax inspectors?
> He's probably had a lot of interactions with them! I smell a tax cheater WHO GOT CAUGHT!! They are always happiest to ruin anyone else's parade too! Their reasoning: I got caught so everyone else should to! :-(
>
> Sad really!
>
> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

You would be 100% wrong.

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:47:36 PM2/21/19

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:31:23 -0500, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 6:26:12 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:41:37 PM UTC-6, Thomas wrote:
>>>>> Make chocolate. Plan to sell chocolate. Toss in garbage.
>>>>> Good planning.
>>>> I have a BUNCH of stuff left that WE are still eating! I made a HUGE batch of Caramel Pecan Things, an extra English Toffee, etc just in case (Orders?) which never happened!
>>>>
>>>> I can AFFORD IT! I'm wealthy, remember? :-)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>> Wealthy people don't have unpaid income taxes that continue to accrue
>>> interest and penalties!
>> I just came through a severely GOOD yet traumatic LIFE CHANGING EVENT!! Death of my Father, Inheritance of a small fortune (JEALOUS yet?), along, drawn out purchase of a piece of real estate and a year long rehabbing of said real estate to get it to pass building codes, etc. So HOW ABOUT you just MYOB? Asshole! :-(
>>
>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>
>You got one thing right - "small" fortune. I've earned my money over
>the years through hard work and long hours. No jealousy here. I have
>more in the bank than you inherited.

Ah, a discussion between two Americans.

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:48:09 PM2/21/19

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You're obsessed.

John Kuthe

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:53:12 PM2/21/19

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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 12:38:24 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
...

>
> I was referring to the fact that you compare fake food to funeral
> homes. Fake food's great. The industry did their best to make it taste
> good for us! They put all these chemicals in to make it just perfect.
> What kind of organic banana sucking snob wouldn't like that?

Bah! Mother Gaia has done a fine job of putting all the "chemicals" in fruit, Mother Gaia's Candy!

Tasting and having a nice mouthfeel is NOT all there is to great foods! HEALTHFULNESS IS!

And Fake Food is NOT HEALTHFUL! In fact it's CRAP!

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:54:52 PM2/21/19

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Lol, tell Gary.

Sqwertz

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Feb 22, 2019, 2:30:19 PM2/22/19

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:47:02 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:

> All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
>
> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

I thought they lasted forever in the fridge?

All that trouble, all that money, that $300 hot plate, that puts
Kuthe Chocolate about $1,800 in the hole in less than 3 months
(assuming you make minimum wage). Would you consider a buyout?

How that grow tent doing? How are your housemates going to feel
about you growing pot in their home?

-sw

Sqwertz

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Feb 22, 2019, 2:34:09 PM2/22/19

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:30:54 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 2:10:05 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> johnk...@gmail.com writes:

>>>All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
>>>
>>>John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>

>> so did you got zero MPG, or negative MPG from the hauling of this stuff
>> around to end up in the dump?
>
> ??? I just threw it in the existing partially full garbage can in
> my bedroom with a trash can liner in it and pitched it out with
> the garbage pickup this afternoon.

Note to Health Department: Keeps food he's trying to sell in his
bedroom next to his shit-stained underwear.

> I ate one, it was a LOT of great chocolate and one
> wish-it-had-not-leaked cherry! Oh well, I can always make 'em
> again!

Why don't you just break them open, wash them out, and remelt the
chocolate for next year's cherries?

-sw

John Kuthe

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Feb 22, 2019, 3:12:25 PM2/22/19

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I'm so wealthy, I have MONEY TO BURN!! Seriously!! I just got another BIG check for my inheritance I didn't even expect! Now I'm EVEN WEALTHIER!! I can now afford to almost pay off my Discover Card balance which I've run up over 2018 and NOT WORKING YET! That's right KIDS!! I owe NO Income Tax in 2018 because I did NOT HAVE ANY INCOME in 2018!! None! Zero! Nix! Nada!

I'm so wealthy I do not have to have an income! Now THAT is wealthy!! :-)

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2019, 3:27:02 PM2/22/19

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How would you describe your relationship with Mammon currently?

Janet

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Feb 22, 2019, 4:06:28 PM2/22/19

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In article <2589e1f0-849d-4bb9...@googlegroups.com>,
johnk...@gmail.com says...

Rent is taxable income.

Janet UK

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 22, 2019, 4:41:42 PM2/22/19

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So? It does not mean he had income if expenses exceed income, very easy
to do with any new business.

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2019, 5:11:35 PM2/22/19

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Really? Now you're telling me!

dsi1

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Feb 22, 2019, 5:23:31 PM2/22/19

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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
>
> I pay a lot in taxes and believe everyone should pay their fair share,
> too. What's wrong with that?

Nobody give a shit about some guy making candy in his kitchen. In the scheme of things, that's so incredibly unimportant. OTOH, thank you for paying your fair share. My guess is that the POTUS thinks yoose guys are big schmucks.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-22/new-york-is-said-to-prep-manafort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2019, 5:42:38 PM2/22/19

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:12:25 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 1:30:19 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:47:02 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > > All my other Christmas Candy is a lot more durable! :-) But I would not sell it.
> > >
> > > John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
> >
> > I thought they lasted forever in the fridge?
> >
> > All that trouble, all that money, that $300 hot plate, that puts
> > Kuthe Chocolate about $1,800 in the hole in less than 3 months
> > (assuming you make minimum wage). Would you consider a buyout?
> >
> > How that grow tent doing? How are your housemates going to feel
> > about you growing pot in their home?
> >
> > -sw
>
> I'm so wealthy, I have MONEY TO BURN!! Seriously!! I just got another BIG check for my inheritance I didn't even expect! Now I'm EVEN WEALTHIER!! I can now afford to almost pay off my Discover Card balance

You're wealthy and you can "almost" pay off your Discover Card balance?

The banking system is making a ton off of you.

Cindy Hamilton

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:56:24 PM2/22/19

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Under our tax laws I think you can go about 4 years. After that, the
IRS considers you a hobby, not a business. Mostly is is part time auto
mechanics and photographers buying new equipment and writing it off.

Renovating a house to make it available to rent to a few roomers is an
easy one for any accountant to handle.

John Kuthe

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:58:57 PM2/22/19

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 4:42:38 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

>
> You're wealthy and you can "almost" pay off your Discover Card balance?
>
> The banking system is making a ton off of you.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

BULLSHIT!! Every wealthy NOT FOR PROFIT corporation uses credit/debt responsibly. And I as that NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION (if Corporations are People then conversely People are Corporations too! It's BIJECTIVE, an Identity if you will! says SCOTUS!) am using my credit responsibly!

I always make more than the Min Payment, and that helps lower my interest!

Damn I'm good! :-) No WONDER I'm wealthy!

John Kuthe...

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:13:17 PM2/22/19

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 5:58:57 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I always make more than the Min Payment, and that helps lower my interest!
>
> Damn I'm good! :-) No WONDER I'm wealthy!
>

> John Kuthe…
>
I pay my credit cards off each month therefore I pay NO, NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH
in interest. So I guess that makes me astoundingly wealthy.

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:13:30 PM2/22/19

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I guess I don't have any serious expenses. May biggest expense is a
new computer every 5 years.

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:15:04 PM2/22/19

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 00:47:30 GMT, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>If you're welathy, why don't you just buy some chocolate cherries, instead
>of making them and then throwing them away?

There's a certain Zen element to it. Putting all this effort into
making good chocolates and then dumping them in the bin.

Alex

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:51:25 PM2/22/19

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No, the less other people pay, the more I pay as time goes on. John
doesn't believe he has to pay taxes on all of his income. As a
socialist Sanders fan I'm not surprised.

Alex

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:53:13 PM2/22/19

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This can't be real.

Alex

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:54:09 PM2/22/19

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No so much with rental income.

Alex

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:56:08 PM2/22/19

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Your sock puppet has been exposed.

dsi1

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:56:15 PM2/22/19

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:13:30 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> I guess I don't have any serious expenses. May biggest expense is a
> new computer every 5 years.

I taught my kids to put computers together long ago. My son sold his 5 year old computer recently for 500 bucks. That was rather shocking to me. Also shocking is that he's built a new one. He builds gaming computers so this one is about as fast as they come. Unfortunately, he has to use Windows 10 to play games. It's seriously overpriced at 120 bucks. I look forward to the day when he will be able to forego Windows.

dsi1

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:57:39 PM2/22/19

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Okay, I'll bite. Go on...

Alex

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:58:36 PM2/22/19

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Paying interest is not something wealthy people do. They are paid
interest for loaning money or their deposits.

Bruce

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Feb 22, 2019, 9:03:34 PM2/22/19

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Go after the big tax dodging corporations. That would make a real
difference (and is something Sanders wants to do).

dsi1

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Feb 22, 2019, 9:03:44 PM2/22/19

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Discover is great, ain't it?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7yi4LMy1tM

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 22, 2019, 9:14:48 PM2/22/19

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*SNIGGER*

John Kuthe

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Feb 22, 2019, 9:24:00 PM2/22/19

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I did that in 2017, when I WAS ASTOUNDLY WEALTHY while I was renovating this house!

Now I'm merely very wealthy!

John Kuthe, CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG (not a website YET!)

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 12:22:23 AM2/23/19

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I don't blame the corporations. They are following the laws as they
should. I blame Congress for making the laws. Change them. The
problem is the congresspeople are owned by donors.

I take every deduction I can. Perfectly legal. Got a huge refund this
year too, I just followed the tax laws.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 12:29:35 AM2/23/19

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Sure there is with all the expense of getting the house in shape.
https://smartasset.com/taxes/rental-property-tax-deductions
On top of the finances and responsibilities of your own living space,
you have to find tenants, secure insurance and pay a mortgage and
property taxes. Renting a home can also complicate your personal tax
situation. Luckily, Uncle Sam allows you to deduct some expenses
associated with running a rental property. The IRS stipulates that
deductible expenses must be ordinary and generally accepted in the
rental business, along with being necessary for managing and maintaining
the property.

While home improvements are deductible through depreciation, the tax
code does allow you to deduct certain repair and maintenance costs
separately. The big difference is that these efforts keep your property
in rentable condition, but do not add significant value. Think painting,
tuning the plumbing, cleaning HVAC filters, spraying for pests and
landscaping.

Bruce

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Feb 23, 2019, 12:35:08 AM2/23/19

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Yes. We should vote for politicians who are not on the take and who
want to change these things. That's not Trump and also not H. Clinton.
This problem isn't limited to the US, by the way.

>I take every deduction I can. Perfectly legal. Got a huge refund this
>year too, I just followed the tax laws.

Yes, why not.

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 23, 2019, 6:22:59 AM2/23/19

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Yet you're paying interest to the evil banking system. That's irresponsible.

Cindy Hamilton

S Viemeister

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:17:54 AM2/23/19

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Gosh! I must be really wealthy, too...

Gary

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:20:11 AM2/23/19

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John-boy is certainly redefining wealth here. :-D

John Kuthe

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:41:14 AM2/23/19

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Well maybe, but back in 1989 when my Ex and I split up and SHE walked away from all our marital debt, I went to Consumer Credit Counseling Service and they worked out a lowered repayment schedule with OUR several credit cards, and Discover was the ONLY card to drop all interest and allowed me to pay off OUR balance principle ONLY!

Which is why NOW my Discover card is the ONLY credit I use! Evil? Maybe, but more GOOD than any other credit cards WE had!! And no my use of MY credit is NOT evil as long as I manage it responsibly. A credit line is not evil, like a gun which by itself can kill. But if used IRRESPONSIBLY can kill! Guns can kill physically, misuse of credit can kill FINANCIALLY!!

John Kuthe...

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:48:10 AM2/23/19

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The other factor, taxing corporations makes the little guy feel good
because the evil corporation is paying and they are not. No corporation
pays taxes. They pass that cost onto the customer.

If the government put a tax on wheat used in bread, people would cheer.
Then be bewildered when the price of bread goes up.

John Kuthe

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:46:10 AM2/23/19

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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:48:10 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...

>
> The other factor, taxing corporations makes the little guy feel good
> because the evil corporation is paying and they are not. No corporation
> pays taxes. They pass that cost onto the customer.
>
> If the government put a tax on wheat used in bread, people would cheer.
> Then be bewildered when the price of bread goes up.

We are in the MIDST of the Political Revolution and it's as AOC said gonna be the Moon Shot, etc. of this Generation! YUGE changes coming because We The People DEMAND IT!

Under the current CORRUPT CAPITALIST POLITICAL system I am standing up and saying OK SCOTUS, if Corporations Are People, them conversely People are Corporations! And as BernieSanders.com exists for Bernie Sanders, I should make a JohnKuthe.ORG website, as I do NOT aspire to get rich, but just live well and INVEST in my fellow humans for the rest of MY LIFE!! By providing some with a clean safe place to live near SCHOOL!! And of course any non-students too, NO housing discrimination here!

John Kuthe, JohnKuthe.ORG!

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:12:21 AM2/23/19

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Fine. Pay your money to the banking system. I would have thought you wouldn't
want to support them.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:14:23 AM2/23/19

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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:48:10 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> ...
> >
> > The other factor, taxing corporations makes the little guy feel good
> > because the evil corporation is paying and they are not. No corporation
> > pays taxes. They pass that cost onto the customer.
> >
> > If the government put a tax on wheat used in bread, people would cheer.
> > Then be bewildered when the price of bread goes up.
>
> We are in the MIDST of the Political Revolution and it's as AOC said gonna be the Moon Shot, etc. of this Generation! YUGE changes coming because We The People DEMAND IT!

You're deluded if you think the people own this country. Your "revolution"
is sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Cindy Hamilton

John Kuthe

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Feb 23, 2019, 11:44:45 AM2/23/19

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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> You're deluded if you think the people own this country. Your "revolution"
> is sound and fury, signifying nothing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

YOU will die before WE DO!!

https://www.ted.com/talks/greta_thunberg_the_disarming_case_to_act_right_now_on_climate

John Kuthe, Climate Activist...

John Kuthe

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Feb 23, 2019, 11:55:57 AM2/23/19

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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 9:12:21 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
>
> Fine. Pay your money to the banking system. I would have thought you wouldn't
> want to support them.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

And another reason I love my Discover card! I buy my CBD oil via LazarusNaturals.com and THEY TAKE Discover as payments! And I JUST ordered another backup 120ml bottle of 1800mg CBD oil for my Cuppa Plus'!

John Kuthe,RN, BSN, Cannabis Nurse!

Bruce

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Feb 23, 2019, 1:29:58 PM2/23/19

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Those price rises would be limited by competition. Corporations should
pay taxes. That has nothing to do with "the little guy feeling good".

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 2:56:30 PM2/23/19

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I've seen it done many times. The government proposes a tax and the
citizen squawk about it. Then the government says, we're going to only
tax businesses, not you. The citizens are relived because businesses
have lots of money and can afford it.

So, the local gas station gets another penny a gallon, the car dealer
gets another $4 for an oil change, the coffee shop charges another
nickle a cup, but we did not get a tax increase.

If every tire shop in the country has to pay a $1 rubber tax on every
tire sold, where is the competition? They all raise prices and the
consumer pays.

Look at the auto industry. No car maker was able to sell seatbelts as
an option. Few people wanted to pay for them. Along comes a law that
every auto must have seatbelts. They put them in for free right?

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 23, 2019, 6:42:47 PM2/23/19

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Yes, we're a rare breed. ;-)

S Viemeister

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:04:18 PM2/23/19

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And my credit card company pays me to use their card. Rich as Croesus, I am.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:23:20 PM2/23/19

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My two credit cards are rewards cards.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:00:09 PM2/23/19

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Linux is free and fast.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:02:58 PM2/23/19

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OK, "Hank".

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:05:37 PM2/23/19

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The big corporations rarely dodge taxes, they just manipulate the system
with their in-house accounting team. Bernie is a Socialist with far too
many "free" deals that taxes will never cover.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:09:37 PM2/23/19

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If you are paying interest on credit card bills and have unpaid income
taxes that are accruing interest you are not wealthy on any level.
Wealthy people have NO debt!!!!

I pay zero interest to anyone. Banks pay *me* interest. $700+ last
month from savings alone.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:13:14 PM2/23/19

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Me, too. The deductions are tricky. A simple donation of $500 to a
charity can tip you into another tax bracket and save you far more than
that. I review my situation prior to the end of the year to look for
those opportunities. 100% legal.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:17:12 PM2/23/19

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The difference between maintenance and capital improvements is the
issue. Maintenance is cheap. Roof replacements, etc, are not.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:19:27 PM2/23/19

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Congress is far more influential than the president in lawmaking. Those
are the people to watch. That might have been your point but it's unclear.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:23:35 PM2/23/19

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You missed the point. Wealthy people don't carry a credit card
balance. I charge everything I can on my three credit cards and I have
almost a million airline miles banked between them. When the payment is
due, they are on auto-pay for the full statement balance so I don't have
to write any checks.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:25:58 PM2/23/19

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So now are aren't "rich". Make up your mind.

Alex

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:29:28 PM2/23/19

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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 8:04:18 PM UTC-6, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 2/23/2019 6:42 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:17:54 AM UTC-6, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>> I pay my credit cards off each month therefore I pay NO, NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH
>>>>> in interest. So I guess that makes me astoundingly wealthy.
>>>>>
>>>> Gosh! I must be really wealthy, too...
>>>>
>>> Yes, we're a rare breed. ;-)
>>>
>> And my credit card company pays me to use their card. Rich as Croesus, I am.
>>
> My two credit cards are rewards cards.

They should be. I know too many people who carry no balance and have
regular credit cards with zero rewards. It doesn't make sense.

Bruce

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:33:31 PM2/23/19

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It's up to politicians to close the loopholes that the corporations
are using.

Starbucks Netherlands made a big profit. But they said that the profit
was equal to what they had to pay Starbucks UK for the use of their
recipes. Profit zero, no taxes paid. Starbucks UK didn't have to pay
taxes over profit made on their recipes. That's tax exempt there. No
taxes paid.

Just an example.

Nancy2

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Feb 24, 2019, 12:02:24 AM2/24/19

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Congress members will never close loopholes because they are in debt to the lobbyists who
contributed to their election. I will say again: campaigns...ALL campaigns...should be limited
to six weeks' duration, and a total budget of $50,000. That would fix a lot of ills.

N.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 24, 2019, 1:12:20 AM2/24/19

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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 9:23:35 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
>
> When the payment is
> due, they are on auto-pay for the full statement balance so I don't have
> to write any checks.
>

That auto-pay and online banking/payments are great, aren't they?? I've got
some older friends that I can't convince to set up their bills either as auto-
pay or at least pay them online. Saves postage and saves a trip to the post
office. Even if you put your bills in your mailbox for the postal person to
pick up it still saves time. Never a worry about your payment getting lost
in the mail or making sure you mail it off 7-10 days before it's due to make
sure it gets there in time to avoid a penalty.

S Viemeister

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Feb 24, 2019, 8:26:36 AM2/24/19

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Sensible woman.

John Kuthe

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Feb 24, 2019, 8:27:11 AM2/24/19

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On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 12:12:20 AM UTC-6, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> That auto-pay and online banking/payments are great, aren't they?? I've got
> some older friends that I can't convince to set up their bills either as auto-
> pay or at least pay them online. Saves postage and saves a trip to the post
> office. Even if you put your bills in your mailbox for the postal person to
> pick up it still saves time. Never a worry about your payment getting lost
> in the mail or making sure you mail it off 7-10 days before it's due to make
> sure it gets there in time to avoid a penalty.

NEVER do Autopay!! I make 'em snailmail me a paper bill, and I love it best when I can go to the Web, type in a URL or have one Bookmarked, log in and pay the bill via my Discover card!

John Kuthe...

lucreti...@fl.it

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Feb 24, 2019, 9:33:15 AM2/24/19

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How environmentally unfriendly having them snail mail anything
needlessly. The paper, the staff, the mail truck ...it goes on and
on!

Ophelia

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Feb 24, 2019, 9:50:30 AM2/24/19

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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gdeccu...@mid.individual.net...

==

Lucky you. Have you seen anything like that here??

Dave Smith

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Feb 24, 2019, 9:53:58 AM2/24/19

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OTOH, it means jobs for people, and people who can handle your problems
when you have to call them about something.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 24, 2019, 10:51:50 AM2/24/19

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Have you called any big business recently? No people, just a series of
Press 1, Press 7, Press your ass to the seat because you will be there
for a long time.

S Viemeister

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Feb 24, 2019, 11:01:05 AM2/24/19

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On 2/24/2019 9:50 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> "S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gdeccu...@mid.individual.net...

> And my credit card company pays me to use their card. Rich as Croesus, I
> am.
>
> ==
>
> Lucky you. Have you seen anything like that here??
>

I wish.

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 24, 2019, 12:29:30 PM2/24/19

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My company doesn't have a receptionist anymore, and neither did my
husband's (before he retired). You can get a directory of employee
extensions, but if you've called in and just want "support" or "sales"
I think you're screwed.

It's better to try to reach us by e-mail (where you can reach "support"
or "sales"). That works well for most of our customer base, who are all
engineers.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia

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Feb 24, 2019, 2:06:49 PM2/24/19

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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gdftds...@mid.individual.net...

===

Aye:(