Lunch yesterday

[Gary]

This is for Bruce mainly. heh heh

Cheeseburger for lunch!

Thin sliced raw onion on bun then burger, cheese, mustard
and ketchup. Might have another today.
These are homemade McGary cheeseburgers. yum

[Cindy Hamilton]

Sounds good.

We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap with
tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 7:59:22 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > This is for Bruce mainly. heh heh
> >
> > Cheeseburger for lunch!
> >
> > Thin sliced raw onion on bun then burger, cheese, mustard
> > and ketchup. Might have another today.
> > These are homemade McGary cheeseburgers. yum
>
> Sounds good.

Normally, I'll add lettuce and tomato but none here that time.

>
> We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap with
> tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.

I really DO want to try Korean sometime.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-06-12 9:16 a.m., Gary wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>
>> We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap with
>> tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.
>
> I really DO want to try Korean sometime.
>

Me too. There just aren't any Korean restaurants. The closes one I know
of is in Niagara Falls and I never expect good food in a tourist area.

[Gary]

I don't know of any Korean restaurants here.
There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.

[GM]

You should go, it'd be fun, just spend some time poking around...

--
Best
Greg

[Cindy Hamilton]

There are like 5 Korean restaurants in Virginia Beach. But it doesn't
look like any of them is particularly close to where I reckon you live.

https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=korean&find_loc=Virginia+Beach%2C+VA

As to what to buy in an Asian market:

Look at recipes. Then go to the market and find (or ask for) what you
need.

Here's a link:

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/topics/cuisine/asian


Cindy Hamilton

[graham]

I went to A&W for a Buddy Burger and a pack of face masks. The Alberta
government is using fast-food outlets to distribute a free pack of 4,
N95 facemasks to all residents. You don't have to buy anything but the
caramelized onions on the burger make this way more delicious than the
usual "fixings".

[dsi1]

You can get some Korean noodles. These come in packages that look like instant ramen. I've been getting some black bean noodles - they are tasty. A lot of the Korean instant noodles are on the spicy side but the black bean noodles are not too spicy. The jiijangmeyon noodles are thick, chewy, and delightful and is served in a thick sauce rather than in soup. Add in some steak and you got the latest Korean food craze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya7LBYFN-kI

[dsi1]

Well, I'm sold. Unfortunately, the nearest A&W would be a couple of thousand miles away and my guess they're not giving away any free face masks. I used to go to A&W back in the 70's. The place was pretty filthy because of all the pigeons that would roost overhead but the food wasn't too bad.

These days, the place is nice and clean because there's a Target there now. I still don't like going there because the pigeons have been replaced with Japanese tourists.

[Bruce]

You said "spend".

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I used to go to A&W back in the 70's.

So did I often. Friend and I would go surfing all morning,
then drive to a nearby A&W for rootbeer (served in frosty
glass mugs) and onion rings. They made the best onion rings.

You drive in and order on the speaker then some pretty girl
would come out with your order on a tray and hook it on the
driver's side window. Good eats and good times.

Then we would drive back to the beach for surfing part 2. :)

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
> > I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.
>
> You can get some Korean noodles. These come in packages that look like instant ramen. I've been getting some black bean noodles - they are tasty. A lot of the Korean instant noodles are on the spicy side but the black bean noodles are not too spicy. The jiijangmeyon noodles are thick, chewy, and delightful and is served in a thick sauce rather than in soup. Add in some steak and you got the latest Korean food craze.

Steve here once posted a pic of an aisle in an asian market.
That interested me. Very long aisle of just ramen noodle packs
or so and not american ones.

I'd love to browse that one and pick many things.

I should get off my lazy butt and drive there sometime.
It's only 3-4 miles from here. Cshenk shops there sometimes.

[Cindy Hamilton]

A million years ago (more than 20, less than 30), I was in
a Korean market and bought a small package of these:

<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKWD5DY>

because they were pretty, even though I didn't know what to
use them for.

Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

GO, you'll have fun...especially interesting is seeing the Asian versions of Western - brand products, also the candy/confectionary and housewares, and the produce and meat/fish sections and the KIMCHEE! Some items are cheaper than in a normal store, too. Just watch out for the strong - armed old Asian ladies, they will push you outta the way in their search for quality stuff, lol...

--
Best
Greg

[Sheldon Martin]

There are several Asian food markets near here in Albany but the one
time went into one no one spoke Engrish, and the only Asian words I
know are Fly Lice. As long as I can get Chinese vegetables I can cook
many Chinese dishes, and several Chinese veggies we grow our own.
https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Asian+Supermarket&find_loc=Albany%2C+NY

[Cindy Hamilton]

"Fly Lice" isn't Asian. It's racist English for "I don't give
a shit about non-white people's feelings."

Packaged ingredients are labeled with their ingredients in
English by U.S. law. They quite often have the name of the
food in English.

Cindy Hamilton

[Lucretia Borgia]

Yes if he could speak Cantonese doubtless they would have to forgive
him some mis-pronounciation as it would be his second language.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 11:51:50 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Packaged ingredients are labeled with their ingredients in
> English by U.S. law. They quite often have the name of the
> food in English.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

About 20 years ago there was an Asian market on my side of town and I stopped
in to see what they had. I spent at least an hour in there just browsing
and most everything was not in English. But I did find the ultra-tiny freeze-dried shrimp and freeze-dried cockroaches interesting.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You really ought to remove that thorny raspberry cane from your ass.
Asian market employees do absolutely nothing to help non Asians shop
their stores. Unlike you I don't buy pig penis pacifiers.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I can see why they wouldn't help you. My experience is the opposite.
They're always willing to help me find what I'm looking for.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Of course. Everything's racist these days. Your breathing is racist
because you breathe like a privileged white person! Racist!

[Bruce]

Where the cockroaches intentional?

[Bruce]

I am asking cuz I'm an *intentional* cockroach, lol!

;-P

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yes! They were packaged in a clear cellophane bag, each was almost like
they were in bubble wrap and quite distinguishable what they were. They
were packaged as a food item. There were many other strange 'food items'
but the tiny cockroaches stuck in my mind for some reason.

[S Viemeister]

On 6/13/2020 7:53 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> You really ought to remove that thorny raspberry cane from your ass.
> Asian market employees do absolutely nothing to help non Asians shop
> their stores. Unlike you I don't buy pig penis pacifiers.
>

Maybe it's you. When I've shopped in Asian markets, I've always been
treated well.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:49:29 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:33:54 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:01:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> But I did find the ultra-tiny freeze-dried shrimp and freeze-dried cockroaches interesting.
>>
>> Where the cockroaches intentional?
>>
>Yes! They were packaged in a clear cellophane bag, each was almost like
>they were in bubble wrap and quite distinguishable what they were. They
>were packaged as a food item. There were many other strange 'food items'
>but the tiny cockroaches stuck in my mind for some reason.

I can imagine. I once heard a fan describe them as "crunchy on the
outside, cottage cheese on the inside".

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose get the real human stuff, right Popeye?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Sh-h-h-h-h-h-udder.

[Hank Rogers]

I wonder if they serve them at the Golden Coin?

[cshenk]

Gary wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >

> > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 7:59:22 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > This is for Bruce mainly. heh heh
> > >
> > > Cheeseburger for lunch!
> > >
> > > Thin sliced raw onion on bun then burger, cheese, mustard
> > > and ketchup. Might have another today.
> > > These are homemade McGary cheeseburgers. yum
> >

> > Sounds good.
>
> Normally, I'll add lettuce and tomato but none here that time.

>
> >
> > We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap with
> > tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.
>
> I really DO want to try Korean sometime.

Supposedly best in town is along Lynnhaven road just 'above' (north) of
where it meets with Lynnhaven Parkway.

[cshenk]

Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >

> > On 2020-06-12 9:16 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > >> We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap
> > with >> tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.
> > >
> > > I really DO want to try Korean sometime.
> > >
> >

> > Me too. There just aren't any Korean restaurants. The closes one I
> > know of is in Niagara Falls and I never expect good food in a
> > tourist area.
>
> I don't know of any Korean restaurants here.

> There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
> I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.

Ah well, offered several times to meet you there and show you what the
stuff was. I don't know all of it but was plotting a trip next weekend.

Grin, I think you think I have cooties but it's an honest offer. About
9am, 20June.

[cshenk]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 10:02:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2020-06-12 9:16 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >> We had take-out Korean. Bibimbap with beef for him, Bibimbap
> > > with >> tofu for me. Each came with a side of kimchi.
> > > >
> > > > I really DO want to try Korean sometime.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Me too. There just aren't any Korean restaurants. The closes one
> > > I know of is in Niagara Falls and I never expect good food in a
> > > tourist area.
> >
> > I don't know of any Korean restaurants here.
> > There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
> > I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.
>

> There are like 5 Korean restaurants in Virginia Beach. But it
> doesn't look like any of them is particularly close to where I reckon
> you live.
>
> https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=korean&find_loc=Virginia+Beach%2C+VA
>
> As to what to buy in an Asian market:
>
> Look at recipes. Then go to the market and find (or ask for) what you
> need.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/topics/cuisine/asian
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton

https://www.yelp.com/biz/grammy-karaoke-korean-bbq-virginia-beach

Thats the better one for all that the stars are a tad lower. Same one
I mentioned.

[Bruce]

And even if you have cooties, don't you have to stay 1.5 metres apart?
Or what do you call that? 57 flozzes or 3.7 gallons?

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 12, , Gary wrote
(in article <5EE38A45...@att.net>):

> I don't know of any Korean restaurants here.
> There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
> I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.

Buy lumpia wrappers at the Asian market, prise them apart carefully, fill
them with a mixture of salt and peppered hamburger meat and onions cooked
together and fry the filled wrapper in a skillet until mostly browned.
It ain’t technically Filipino fare, but it’s tasty and kinda Asian.

leo

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:01:19 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

What's Asian about it? Just the wrapper?

[cshenk]

I think they also sell 'cup-of-noodles' as well but not sure. Most of
the noodles aren't found in regular markets stateside.

I need veggies and Miso.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 14, , Bruce wrote
(in article<1bpdefl5qfqimpdo4...@4ax.com>):

Sure. Why not? You can’t make it without a lumpia wrapper. I suppose you
could fake it with a tortilla, but it wouldn’t be the same.

leo

[dsi1]

You can get bananas, cut them in half, sprinkle a good amount of brown sugar, wrap it, then fry it in oil. That's real Filipino food alright. Serve it with purple ice cream.

[Gary]

cshenk wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > I'd love to browse that one and pick many things.
> >
> > I should get off my lazy butt and drive there sometime.
> > It's only 3-4 miles from here. Cshenk shops there sometimes.
>
> I think they also sell 'cup-of-noodles' as well but not sure. Most of
> the noodles aren't found in regular markets stateside.
>
> I need veggies and Miso.

Have you ever seen this article?
A list of asian markets in our area with short descriptions.

https://www.pilotonline.com/food-drink/article_d4f979b2-2a22-11e9-ba95-4bef75b62e15.html

[Gary]

cshenk wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > There is a good asian market nearby but I've never been there.
> > I wouldn't know what to buy if I did go there.
>
> Ah well, offered several times to meet you there and show you what the
> stuff was. I don't know all of it but was plotting a trip next weekend.

Not several times. One time about a year ago you said you would
be there on a Saturday morning and I didn't or couldn't make it.

> Grin, I think you think I have cooties but it's an honest offer. About
> 9am, 20June.

No offense Carol. Would be nice to meet you there someday in the
future but right now EVERYONE might have cooties and I'm
not going to a new store to look around and explore for an
hour or more.

I shop a grocery about every 2 weeks and I go in with a list
and get out fairly quickly. This is not the time to explore
a new and unique place. :)

[Bruce]

So how do you feel about Your Leader walking around everywhere without
a mask?

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> >I shop a grocery about every 2 weeks and I go in with a list
> >and get out fairly quickly. This is not the time to explore
> >a new and unique place. :)
>
> So how do you feel about Your Leader walking around everywhere without
> a mask?

That's his problem (or not). Why would I care what he does?

[Bruce]

Yeah, what was I thinking :)

[cshenk]

Can't see the article (subscriber limit) but I know most of them and
have been there.

If you have any questions on any of the, ask! Each has their good and
bad. The first thing you will note is the aroma is different. but it's
not 'bad' just unfamiliar fruits and vegetables. The easiest one if
just learning 'asian' as english labels (and often no other language
ones! Can be awkward if looking for eddo for example but don't know
the english name is small taro) isn't very East Asian (lots of hispanic
and such though), usually locally called Family Mart or Family
International. They keep changing names. It's on Rosemont below
Holland.

Then the really big one is The actual International market, take VB
BLVD to Newtown and turn north. Very big. They arrange by ethnic
catagory roughly and you sort of have to zigzag around to get items but
it is big. It also has a lovely little Korean cafe right in there that
opens about 11 for freshly made soups. Not sure with Covid if you can
still eat there too. Wide selection of good kimchee types.

Closes to you is the American Asian Market on Great Neck. It's also
most likely to find only Chinese labels on many things in the veggie
and fish sections. Best prices and although smaller, has everything I
want.

There's another 'Asian Market' along VB BLVD (It would be on the left
from your direction). It's pretty nasty in there.

[cshenk]

Thats fair! When things clear up though, be happy to show you around.

[cshenk]

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Xxcarol's Lumpia
Categories: Xxcarol, Asian
Yield: 24 Servings

1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thicker grind
1/4 c Fine chopped green onion
6 ea Cloves minced garlic
3/4 c Grated carrot
2 tb Soy sauce
1 ts Garlic powder
1 tb Fresh ground black pepper
4 ea Minced shiitake mushrooms
1 ea Cold egg
3 tb Hot sweet chicken sauce
2 tb Worstershire (optional)exit
1 pk Lumpia wrappers
1/2 c Canola oil or peanut oil

Mix all that except the wrapper and oil until well blended. Set aside
then separate the lumpia wrappers.

This is actually the only hard stage and it helps to have a second
person. They sell them with paper separators at American Asian Market
at the corner of VB BVD and Great Neck. These wrappers are sold
frozen (defrost obviously) and are about 12 inches across. They come
in packs of 50 (25 or so per packet). They also have a version with
paper separators between the wrapper and I highly suggest those for
ease of use.

In fact, I get all the ingredients at the American Asian as they have
the perfect pork grind (and will make more on request) and the best
local prices, especially on the shiitake which are about 1 TB minced.

Lay the wrapper down and make a line of meat mixture starting about
1/3 up and about 3tb per wrapper and leaving about 2 inches at the
top.

Flip the bottom up and then the top down then roll. Lather rinse and
repeat. You should get about 24 wrapped lumpia.

Since these are fatter than the little ones in the store, 1 can be a
serving. Freeze the excess in longer zip-loc bags unless you plan to
cook them all for a party.

Heat the oil (peanut or Canola are optimal for this). I add a
sacrifical Lumpia in when I think it is about heated enough and watch
for bubbles. Once bubbling, add the rest a few at a time and turn
every 2 minutes or so. If you got the right thin wrappers, you
should be able to see the meat bubbling a bit as the fats cook. If
you used spring roll (acceptable but not the same as this recipe) you
will not be able to see that nor will they have the same level of
'crunch'.

Once cooked, you can refridgerate but do not cover or they will lose
the crunch.

~ Hot Sweet Chicken Sauce- generic name for a blend used on chicken
and other foods. Mae Ploy is a popular brand name.

~ Soy sauce- actual name is Shoyu, Datu Putu brand is a very good
brand (better than Kikkoman). Not recommended for this dish is Aloha
Shoyu as it doesn't have the right flavor profle

~ Lumpia wrapper- even in the Filipeno community they vary with types.
Some will be adamant that 'spring roll wrapper' is the same thing. In
fact, it is in many parts of their land but not all parts use the same
type. Lumpia wrapper for the purposes of this recipe is extremely
thin and you can somewhat see through it. Yup, that thin and that's
why it's hard to work with but gives that perfect flaky crunchy paper
wrapped effect. If you use the thicker spring roll, it will work but
won't have the crunch and look almost like an extremely thin flaked
pastry.

MMMMM

[Gary]

cshenk wrote:
>
> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>
> Title: Xxcarol's Lumpia
> Categories: Xxcarol, Asian
> Yield: 24 Servings
>
> 1 1/2 lb Ground pork, thicker grind
> 1/4 c Fine chopped green onion
> 6 ea Cloves minced garlic
> 3/4 c Grated carrot
> 2 tb Soy sauce
> 1 ts Garlic powder
> 1 tb Fresh ground black pepper
> 4 ea Minced shiitake mushrooms
> 1 ea Cold egg
> 3 tb Hot sweet chicken sauce
> 2 tb Worstershire (optional)exit
> 1 pk Lumpia wrappers
> 1/2 c Canola oil or peanut oil
>
> Mix all that except the wrapper and oil until well blended. Set aside
> then separate the lumpia wrappers.

Carol, that sounds like a decent recipe for a spring roll.
Is the difference only the wrapper used?

I love the chinese spring rolls. Had a good recipe once but lost
it.

[cshenk]

Coming back to this.

Couple of things not mentioned.

I make what I was told are called 'fat boys'. Not thin like a
cigarette or cigarello but more like a fat cigar. Lumpia in the stores
for some odd reason have one of the highest markups I have ever seen!

Filipas will try to pretend it's because of all the careful handrolling
and manual labor. Nope. It's easy and fast to produce 24 fat boy
lumpia even without cheating and using spring wrapper but using the
proper almost seethough ones that you use in layers to make them so
crunchy that you can hear happy a bite 10 feet away.

Normally I make a few right away (say 4) but the rest are loaded in
diplock or vacuum sealed raw just as they are and frozen for later use.

You leave about 2 inches at top and bottom since both get flipped
up/down over the meat then you roll them up.

[cshenk]

You could use the easier Spring Roll but the wrappper 'makes the dish'
this time.