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Julie Bove

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Jun 21, 2020, 7:11:31 PM6/21/20
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Some of you may remember the pic of my dirty, rusty, moss covered mailbox.
Around 7:00 pm last night, someone took it out. We don't know who. My
gardener said he heard a loud noise. He didn't know what it was. His
girlfriend drove over here to pick him up and saw the aftermath. She called
the police. They think it was hit by a car, likely on purpose. There must
have been mail all over as a neighbor put a note on the remains listing his
address and telling people to get their mail there.

I spoke to one neighbor last night. He walked down there, took pics and sent
them to me.The guy on the other side of me is not currently living in the
house. I know the lady on the other side of him so will go down there and
see if she knows something.

We're not sure what to do. The police said to notify the USPS online but I
can't find such a place on their website for this particular situation. I
think it is up to us to procure a new mailbox but need permission from the
USPS to install it and also the locks that they will need to use. Such a
mailbox costs well over $1,000 to buy, plus $40 for each lock. Then there is
installation. No HOA here. Not good.

I can't post a pic of the damaged box as I no longer have a pic hosting
service.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 21, 2020, 7:39:19 PM6/21/20
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Walmart sells mailboxes for less than $20. The mounting post costs
$15 or so. While there, buy a 6 pack for the gardener, and I bet
he'll have it done in less than an hour.





ImStillMags

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Jun 21, 2020, 8:46:13 PM6/21/20
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Go down to your local post office branch and talk to them in person. It's not that hard.

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 21, 2020, 8:56:42 PM6/21/20
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 18:39:12 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:
It sounds like she is describing one of those neighborhood setups
where a series of locked boxes are attached to a concrete pillar. Each
locking box belongs to a particular house and the mail man has the
master key.
These aren't typical Walmart mail boxes. BTW, a mailbox for less than
$20 these days? Not around here.
Janet US

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 21, 2020, 9:08:18 PM6/21/20
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Every 3-4 years the highway department here wipes out our mailbox
plowing snow... I call and it takes them 2-3 weeks to install a new
one. I just need to place those stickum house numbers on it. The
USPS is not reponsible for wrecked mailboxes. We only have a country
mailbox at the road so people will know where we live but we get our
mail at a PO Box in the post office. It's annoying that they keep
raising the price, a PO Box used to cost $15/year, now it's up to $45.
It should be free as it saves them from having to deliver our mail, we
need to pick it up at the PO.

Dave Smith

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Jun 21, 2020, 9:17:28 PM6/21/20
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I got one here a couple months ago for $22.... Cdn,
>

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 21, 2020, 9:37:35 PM6/21/20
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 18:56:34 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:
Amazon sells country mail boxes for about $20.
It's setting the wooden post that needs a power auger... it's
impossible to dig a post hole manually in road shoulders through all
that compressed stone. In fact when a snow plow shears off a wooden
post at ground level it won't easily come out. Have to wait till
spring for the ground to thaw and even then the sheared off post is
difficult to pull out... need to screw in an eye bolt and winch it
out. Still a lot easier than using an auger to make a new hole in
compressed stone. Been there several times, I know the routine.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 21, 2020, 10:09:39 PM6/21/20
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Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 21, 2020, 10:13:12 PM6/21/20
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In some places they are not allowed. You need a cluster box to meet
USPS regulations. They will have three to five of them together here
https://www.mailboxes.com/cluster-box-unit-12-a-size-doors-type-ii-white-usps/

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 21, 2020, 10:23:29 PM6/21/20
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It's been posted here more than once. www.Postimage.org
Who put up the original mailbox if that is indeed the type she uses?

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:36 AM6/22/20
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"Hank Rogers" <Nos...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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It's a cluster mailbox. Like this:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Florence-8-Mailboxes-2-Parcel-Lockers-1-Outgoing-Mail-Compartment-Pedestal-Mount-Cluster-Box-Unit-1570-8AF/206511886

Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:37 AM6/22/20
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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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I highly doubt that you got a cluster mailbox with 8 mail compartments, 2
parcel lockers and an outgoing mail slot. That's what we have.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:37 AM6/22/20
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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Sort of. Not on cement though. On a metal pillar. It's called a cluster
mailbox.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:38 AM6/22/20
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"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Those are not allowed here. We have to have cluster mailboxes with locks.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:40 AM6/22/20
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"Sqwertz" <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
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> I understood that much, at least. We have mail kiosks in banks for
> 20-30 houses in my 30-year old neighborhood. Mail Thieves live
> them. Break one lock, get access to 25 mailboxes.

Yeah. They're blowing them up here. Locks do no good.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:40 AM6/22/20
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"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.xxx> wrote in message
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Correct. Mine has 8 boxes, two parcel boxes and an outgoing mail slot.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:42 AM6/22/20
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"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.xxx> wrote in message
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Yep. But it's this one:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Florence-8-Mailboxes-2-Parcel-Lockers-1-Outgoing-Mail-Compartment-Pedestal-Mount-Cluster-Box-Unit-1570-8AF/206511886

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:42 AM6/22/20
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"ImStillMags" <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Actually it is. I've had to wait in line for two hours. I'm disabled. I
can't do that. I spoke to another neighbor earlier. He's going there later.
>

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:43 AM6/22/20
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Nobody seems to know. These houses were built in 1982. I spoke to the one
neighbor who bought her house back then. She said it was there then. What we
actually have now is two units side by side. One is the parcel lockers and
the other is the mailboxes. They don't seem to make them that way any more.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:40:44 AM6/22/20
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"Sqwertz" <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
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> The post office maintains those. They are federal property. They
> get run over and broken into conatantly in out city. This should be
> a non-topic and is fart from rocket science. Julie just made it
> confusing on purpose.
>
> They will hold all your mail until the kiosk is replaced. You can
> also go down to the PO and pick it up.

That is not what I was told. I was told that it was up to the residents to
replace it. How? We don't know.

Janet

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Jun 22, 2020, 8:20:16 AM6/22/20
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In article <rcq5bg$sor$2...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
Why not? Land of the Free, etc.

Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
front door.

Janet UK

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 22, 2020, 9:00:33 AM6/22/20
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We're free to buy houses that don't require a locking cluster mailbox.
Except in Bothell, of course, where there is no freedom.

> Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
> front door.

Mine is delivered to a box at the side of the road, right in front of my
house. A very common situation for rural (or semi-rural) residents.
I provide the box, which must adhere to some fairly minimal standards
set out by the U.S. Post Office.

Cindy Hamilton

Mike Duffy

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Jun 22, 2020, 9:11:41 AM6/22/20
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 22:18:10 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> I think Julie is meth tweaker.

In a vaingloriously lame attempt on my part to swing the thread subject
onto food, I'm sure Julie judiciously adjusts quantities of fresh
flavourful herbs into her recipes as compared to the dry herbs we had to
use up until now.

And why did you use the french word for mint? (Menthe, you spelled it
wrong in two places!)

Dave Smith

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Jun 22, 2020, 9:58:28 AM6/22/20
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I have rural mail delivery too. The box gets bashed once in a while.
They cost $20-30 to replace, but then there is the cost of those sticky
letters than don't stick as well as they should or hand lettering with
paint.
Canada Post would really like to do away with them. There is still mail
delivery on some old neighbourhoods, but for the last 30 years new
neighbourhoods have been getting communal mail boxes. They keep
threatening to cut our rural service. They have been trying to make it a
safety issue. A few years ago they raised a bullshit safety issue with
my mail box, complaining about a low hanging branch. The mail is
delivered by a car or by a small van. Tractor trailers pass under that
branch.

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 22, 2020, 10:21:36 AM6/22/20
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 22:18:10 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
>Holy shit. I'm glad I stopped where I did the first time. I am not
>going back and reading this 10 times, like in teh past, to try and
>understand WTF she's babbling about and that's so hard to fucking
>figure out.
>
>I think Julie is meth tweaker.
>
>-sw

I don't know, I figured it out immediately from her posting. My
husband, (ex architect) says HO should probably pay for replacing it,
but you can order direct from post office. He always ordered direct
from a book the PO has.
He also says people throw a chain around them, attach them to a truck
and tear them out of the ground all the time.
(Crap! Who does that kind of stuff????)
Janet US

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 22, 2020, 10:29:49 AM6/22/20
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Depends on where you live. We had that in our first house and older
places still do. The US is big and diverse so you find many
combinations. We have places with a drive from road to house of 1/4 mile
so they won't put it at your door but a box at the end of your drive.

graham

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Jun 22, 2020, 10:40:46 AM6/22/20
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To save money, Canada Post decided a few years ago to gradually stop
urban home delivery and use community mail boxes - all new suburbs have
them. There was a public outcry and the govt ordered them to stop the
program.

Ophelia

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Jun 22, 2020, 12:21:33 PM6/22/20
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:rcq5bo$sor$1...@dont-email.me...
===

Here (well where I live anyway) We have 'letter boxes' on our front
door. If we are not in when a parcel is delivered, they hide it somewhere
in the garden and put a note through the letter box tell us where it is!


Sheldon Martin

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Jun 22, 2020, 12:41:27 PM6/22/20
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You live in a high population density area... here most every house is
1,000' apart, there are country style mailboxes along every road. Here
steel posts at road shoulders are illegal, they must be wooden
breakaway type. Some people here live close together or across the
road from each other so they mount 2-3 mailboxes on one wooden post.
There are some infirm people here who set up a clothesline on pulleys,
they hang their mailbox and pull it to their front door to use their
mailbox, but only if the clothesline doesn't cross the road... the
mail carrier delivers to only one side of the road. On this road the
smallest buildable lot permitted is 5 acres but most are much larger.

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 22, 2020, 1:13:44 PM6/22/20
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In some areas that use those cluster boxes it is up to postmaster to
decide when it needs replacement due to deterioration etc. The
postmaster uses a crew to do the replacement and all those who use the
cluster pay the costs equally... those cluster boxes work the same as
PO Boxes inside the post office. We're thinking of getting rid of our
PO Box as it is becoming too expensive... actually the PO Box should
be free as we need to drive to the post office to get our mail, The
entire postal system is inane, getting our mail delivered to our house
is done for free.

We are switching trash pick up to a new local company that is charging
half plus the first three months free, and will probably not miss days
of pickup... lots of neighbors have already switched and are very
happy with the new company.

We are also going to be rid of Cable TV at the first of the month, we
already ordered Dish, it's less than half price and gives many more
channels.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 22, 2020, 2:41:22 PM6/22/20
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Why the hell do yoose need trash pickup Popeye? Yoose just throw
everything out yoose window anyway.



Bruce

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Jun 22, 2020, 3:08:39 PM6/22/20
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 12:41:23 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
So many rules in the Land of the Free. Here you can put anything by
the side of the road and call it a mailbox. As long as the postie
understands.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 22, 2020, 3:17:51 PM6/22/20
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I knew a fellow who bought an artificial leg at a flea market. He
planned on making it into a support post for his mailbox. Don't
know if he ever did, as he moved away.


Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 22, 2020, 3:18:24 PM6/22/20
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 3:08:39 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> So many rules in the Land of the Free. Here you can put anything by
> the side of the road and call it a mailbox. As long as the postie
> understands.

We try to ensure the safety of the postal worker by mandating boxes
that are a safe distance from the road, are not dangerous if they
are hit by the postal truck, etc.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce

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Jun 22, 2020, 3:29:57 PM6/22/20
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I think, here, they hire postal workers who can drive.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 22, 2020, 3:48:48 PM6/22/20
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Like kuth?


Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:50:01 PM6/22/20
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"Janet" <nob...@home.org> wrote in message
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Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time to
go to each door, much less each house.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 7:52:48 PM6/22/20
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"Sqwertz" <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
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> You've been talking to other idiots and have been told wrong (not
> surprising). Unless you live in an HOA, the PO is responsible for
> replacing them. It was their decision to make those kiosks for
> Their convenience.

We'll see. My one neighbor went to the post office. He has yet to get back
to me.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 22, 2020, 8:01:49 PM6/22/20
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 6:50:01 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Janet" <nob...@home.org> wrote in message
> news:MPG.395ab25b4...@news.individual.net...
>
> > Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
> > front door.
>
> Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time to
> go to each door, much less each house.
>
Speaking for the whole country now? I live in a highly-populated area
and my mail is delivered to the box on the wall outside my front door.
By a postal carrier who actually walks up my steps! Amazing, ain't it?

Bruce

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Jun 22, 2020, 8:02:38 PM6/22/20
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Single houses isn't high density.

Dave Smith

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Jun 22, 2020, 9:00:30 PM6/22/20
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On 2020-06-22 7:49 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Janet" <nob...@home.org> wrote in message

>>> Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
>>
>>   Why not?  Land of the Free, etc.
>>
>>  Our mail is delivered into the house  through the letterbox in our
>> front door.
>
> Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time
> to go to each door, much less each house.

Actually, in highly populated areas it is quite efficient to deliver
the mail door to door. It is in less densely populated areas where they
have to go longer distances to each house.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 22, 2020, 10:16:53 PM6/22/20
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She said 'highly populated areas' and I live in a highly-populated area.
But you tell that to the postal carrier.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 11:01:25 PM6/22/20
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Did I say I was speaking for the whole country? No. They don't do that here.
I moved to this area 50some years ago. Even then most of the rural style
boxes were clustered together. I have never seen a box on a house here.
It's pretty hilly here and many houses have steps to walk up and down.

Julie Bove

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Jun 22, 2020, 11:03:15 PM6/22/20
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I was talking about here, in this part of the PNW. I have no idea where you
live or what they do there. But if you are indicative of the average
citizen, they are very bitchy.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 23, 2020, 12:53:24 AM6/23/20
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
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> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:a12b20a8-3825-44c6...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> >> In highly populated areas. they don't have time
> >> to
> >> go to each door, much less each house.
> >>
> > Speaking for the whole country now? I live in a highly-populated area
> > and my mail is delivered to the box on the wall outside my front door.
> > By a postal carrier who actually walks up my steps! Amazing, ain't it?
>
> Did I say I was speaking for the whole country? No. They don't do that here.
> I moved to this area 50some years ago. Even then most of the rural style
> boxes were clustered together. I have never seen a box on a house here.
> It's pretty hilly here and many houses have steps to walk up and down.
>
I don't care if you moved there yesterday. You said and I quote a.g.a.i.n.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 23, 2020, 12:55:42 AM6/23/20
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:03:15 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I was talking about here, in this part of the PNW. I have no idea where you
> live or what they do there. But if you are indicative of the average
> citizen, they are very bitchy.
>
Keep backpedaling Ju-Ju, keep backpedaling.

Bruce

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Jun 23, 2020, 1:18:13 AM6/23/20
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Molehill --> mountain, Jo-Jo.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 23, 2020, 1:36:42 AM6/23/20
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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 12:18:13 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
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> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 21:55:39 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> Molehill --> mountain, Jo-Jo.
>
Wooden shoes -→ Splinters, Prune.

Janet

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Jun 23, 2020, 3:53:45 AM6/23/20
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In article <rcrg36$fqn$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
> >> Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
> >
> > Why not? Land of the Free, etc.
> >
> > Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
> > front door.
>
> Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time to
> go to each door, much less each house.
>

Individual letterbox for every house/ front door is standard in the
most densely populated inner city areas of UK.



Janet UK

Bruce

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Jun 23, 2020, 4:03:08 AM6/23/20
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But then she'd have to get on a plane to get her mail.

Janet

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Jun 23, 2020, 4:04:15 AM6/23/20
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In article <rcrra1$o18$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
Many Scottish cities are "pretty hilly", steps up to the front doors.

At one of our city properties the postie walks up the front steps then
three flights of internal stairs to post the mail through front-door
letterboxes in the top-floor flats/apartments. Daily deliveries six
days a week.

Janet UK

Bruce

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Jun 23, 2020, 4:05:08 AM6/23/20
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That's wonderful, but it does rain a lot there, doesn't it?

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 23, 2020, 6:20:41 AM6/23/20
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I'd say it comes down to funding. The U.S. Postal Service has
incentives to keep costs down.

And the respective attitudes toward government in general.

OTOH, there's a new (less than 20 years old) subdivision at the
end of my street. I'm pretty sure every house has its own mail
box, but I think they're next to the road on posts, and perhaps
all on one side of the street.

We just don't have a tradition of mail slots in most of the
country.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary

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Jun 23, 2020, 8:26:17 AM6/23/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> There are some infirm people here who set up a clothesline on pulleys,
> they hang their mailbox and pull it to their front door to use their
> mailbox, but only if the clothesline doesn't cross the road...

Wow! ;-D That's way too funny and total BS!
Yoose need to post a pic of one.

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 23, 2020, 9:00:00 AM6/23/20
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Here the houses are far apart but the mail carriers deliver from their
vehicle to country mailboxes at roadside. When they have a package
that won't quite fit into the country mailbox they will drive up the
driveway and leave it in a protected spot at the garage door, or they
may leave a form in the mailbox to pick up at the post office.

Dave Smith

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Jun 23, 2020, 9:05:09 AM6/23/20
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Give him some credit. He saw it in a cartoon when he was a kid.

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 23, 2020, 9:32:59 AM6/23/20
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:16:49 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 6:50:01 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time to
>> >> go to each door, much less each house.
>> >>
>> >Speaking for the whole country now? I live in a highly-populated area
>> >and my mail is delivered to the box on the wall outside my front door.
>> >By a postal carrier who actually walks up my steps! Amazing, ain't it?
>>
>> Single houses isn't high density.
>>
>She said 'highly populated areas' and I live in a highly-populated area.
>But you tell that to the postal carrier.

Single houses can be high population density... I grew up in a row
house in Brooklyn, all the houses on the street were attached...the
mail carrier walked to each front door and delivered the mail into a
slot in the door or a box attached to the wall on the side of the
door. The houses were each only 20' wide so wasn't much of a walk
going house to house and each stoop was only 4-5 steps.
Across the street the corner house was a small walk up apartment
building, four flights, no elevator, 4 apartments on each floor, there
was a multi mailbox built into the wall in the vestible of the front
entrance. During inclement weather all us kids would congregate in
the vestible, to play board games or do art work, we had rubber molds
to fill with plaster of paris, after it hardened we'd paint all kinds
of objects with water colors; animals, cars, boats, etc... then we'd
sell those objects to people who lived on the street, usually for a
dime. we made enough to buy new molds, plaster, and paint, plus
enough for ice cream, sodas, and to treat a cute girl to a charlotte
russe, who was willing to play doctor... we were only 8, 9, 10 years
old.... those girls would show us boys how to play doctor, at that age
they knew more than us.

Sheldon Martin

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Jun 23, 2020, 9:46:22 AM6/23/20
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Manhattan, NY is about as densely populated as it gets, with lots of
skyscapers... lots of keyed letter boxes in the lobby, the mail
carrier uses a master key to access all the boxes by removing the
front panels.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 23, 2020, 11:34:47 AM6/23/20
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As it is in the US in the cities. Rural areas get different treatments.
Many have a box at the curb at each house, some have clusters.
Everyone though, does have a way of getting their mail.
https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/
Elsewhere, the Postal Service moves mail by planes, hovercraft, trains,
trucks, cars, boats, ferries, helicopters, subways, bicycles and feet.

Oh, you can also send live animals by mail. At one time you could even
send your kids.
https://www.history.com/news/mailing-children-post-office


GM

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Jun 23, 2020, 11:43:42 AM6/23/20
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My mom and an uncle were postmasters in our tiny rural hamlet, lots of boxes of chicks - the bird type, lol - would come through...

--
Best
Greg

Ophelia

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Jun 23, 2020, 12:48:03 PM6/23/20
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:nipIG.31053$HY4....@fx37.iad...
>
As it is in the US in the cities. Rural areas get different treatments.
Many have a box at the curb at each house, some have clusters.
Everyone though, does have a way of getting their mail.
https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/
Elsewhere, the Postal Service moves mail by planes, hovercraft, trains,
trucks, cars, boats, ferries, helicopters, subways, bicycles and feet.

Oh, you can also send live animals by mail. At one time you could even
send your kids.
https://www.history.com/news/mailing-children-post-office


====

Blimey!!! I have never heard of that before!!

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dsi1

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Jun 23, 2020, 1:34:48 PM6/23/20
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"Mailgate." It's been going on for a long time. And it's a disgrace that it happened. And it's been going on for a long, long, time and if you look at it now, all the information that's coming out. Some terrible things happened and it should never be allowed to happen in this country again. Well, at least in Hawaii anyway.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/honolulu-public-corruption-mailbox-trial.html

Hank Rogers

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Jun 23, 2020, 1:50:45 PM6/23/20
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Bruce wrote:
> Molehill --> mountain, Jo-Jo.

Nose --> ass, Druce.


Hank Rogers

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Jun 23, 2020, 1:59:35 PM6/23/20
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That was about the time frame when yoose was screwing yoose aunt,
right? Did yoose mammy also get some?






Julie Bove

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Jun 24, 2020, 12:50:09 AM6/24/20
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Here you go!

https://www.newhomesource.com/learn/what-to-know-about-cluster-mailboxes/

Julie Bove

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Jun 24, 2020, 12:51:12 AM6/24/20
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Here's the link again:

https://www.newhomesource.com/learn/what-to-know-about-cluster-mailboxes/

Julie Bove

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Jun 24, 2020, 1:05:35 AM6/24/20
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"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Right. Most apartments here are that way and pretty much all new
construction is.

Julie Bove

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Jun 24, 2020, 1:07:22 AM6/24/20
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"GM" <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think they still do that. Ladybugs too.

Julie Bove

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Jun 24, 2020, 1:10:37 AM6/24/20
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"Sheldon Martin" <penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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New construction here is mostly three story houses with not much of a yard.
They are so close together there is no street parking. There is no place for
a mailbox for each house.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 24, 2020, 1:18:13 AM6/24/20
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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:50:09 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Here you go!
>
> https://www.newhomesource.com/learn/what-to-know-about-cluster-mailboxes/
>
I don't need to know anything about cluster mailboxes.

Nemo

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Jun 24, 2020, 2:36:57 AM6/24/20
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> made enough to buy new molds, plaster, and paint, plus enough for ice
> cream, sodas, and to treat a cute girl to a charlotte russe, who was
> willing to play doctor... we were only 8, 9, 10 years old.... those
> girls would show us boys how to play doctor, at that age they knew more
> than us.

Isn't that the truth! When I was a kid I never had to twist any arms
with the local lassies. It was always them that initiated it!

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 24, 2020, 6:00:20 AM6/24/20
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The operative word being "here".

Amazingly, not everyplace in the U.S. is like the greater Seattle
metropolitan area.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia

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Jun 24, 2020, 7:11:17 AM6/24/20
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Oh take no notice of itsjerknotjoann! She is a nasty piece of work and
not worth you time!!


Lucretia Borgia

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Jun 24, 2020, 9:08:24 AM6/24/20
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:11:14 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
Oh look! Ever nice OFeelMe turns nasty about someone again!

Janet

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Jun 24, 2020, 11:05:22 AM6/24/20
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In article <rcun8a$m5c$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
> New construction here is mostly three story houses with not much of a yard.
> They are so close together there is no street parking. There is no place for
> a mailbox for each house.
>

They don't have front doors? Is that another very special feature of
Bothell design?



Janet UK


Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 24, 2020, 11:26:47 AM6/24/20
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The Post Office, in trying to minimize its expenses, is mainly requiring
new construction to have mailboxes that can be accessed from the Post Office
truck (as in the neighborhood across the street from me, where boxes are at
the curb), or as a ganged box (such as Julie has).

Homeowners have little to no control over where their mailbox is located.

I have some sympathy for Julie's predicament, but none for her coming here
to whinge about it.

Cindy Hamilton

Janet

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Jun 24, 2020, 11:33:44 AM6/24/20
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In article <nipIG.31053$HY4....@fx37.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>
> On 6/23/2020 3:53 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article <rcrg36$fqn$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
> >>>> Houses don't have individual mailboxes here.
> >>>
> >>> Why not? Land of the Free, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Our mail is delivered into the house through the letterbox in our
> >>> front door.
> >>
> >> Every area is different. In highly populated areas. they don't have time to
> >> go to each door, much less each house.
> >>
> >
> > Individual letterbox for every house/ front door is standard in the
> > most densely populated inner city areas of UK.
> >
> >
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> As it is in the US in the cities. Rural areas get different treatments.
> Many have a box at the curb at each house, some have clusters.
> Everyone though, does have a way of getting their mail.
> https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/
> Elsewhere, the Postal Service moves mail by planes, hovercraft, trains,
> trucks, cars, boats, ferries, helicopters, subways, bicycles and feet.

Our island mail comes by ferry, except when the ferry doesn't run
because of breakdown or bad weather. When that happens we don't get any
mail. Or newspapers).

Scotland also tried inter-island rocket-mail. It didn't catch on.

https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/experiment-
deliver-letters-rocket-hebrides-840090

Janet UK

Dave Smith

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Jun 24, 2020, 2:24:32 PM6/24/20
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On a related note.... nobody wants to have one next to the house. First
of all, there will be 40-50 cars stopping there each day, even though
they are all within walking distance of the residences. Secondly, there
is the junk mail that some slobs dump there. Then there is the
graffiti. Canada Post found a way to cut down on that. They came up
with a design that is so cluttered that it deters graffiti. They look
like they have already been tagged.

https://designkultur.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/canada-post-anti-grafitti-mailbox-design.pdf


Taxed and Spent

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:02:19 PM6/24/20
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Why in the world is graffiti NOT a capital crime?

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:05:30 PM6/24/20
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Because except for treason, capital crimes are for crimes against people,
not property. (Although it could be argued that treason is a crime against
all the people.)

People are more important than property.

Cindy Hamilton

Taxed and Spent

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:09:58 PM6/24/20
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I am not buying into that argument. Crime against property is an
offense against people. Like Bernie Madoff. He just stole money,
right? Ruined peoples lives. Off with his head.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:26:16 PM6/24/20
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Her shipment of Spam and Depends is late and she's getting testy.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:29:59 PM6/24/20
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On 6/24/2020 3:02 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:

>>
>>
>> On a related note.... nobody wants to have one next to the house. First
>> of all, there will be 40-50 cars stopping there each day, even though
>> they are all within walking distance of the residences.  Secondly, there
>> is the junk mail that some slobs dump there.  Then there is the
>> graffiti.  Canada Post found a way to cut down on that. They came up
>> with a design that is so cluttered that it deters graffiti. They look
>> like they have already been tagged.
>>
>> https://designkultur.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/canada-post-anti-grafitti-mailbox-design.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Why in the world is graffiti NOT a capital crime?

Hey, it artistic freedom of expression.

Taxed and Spent

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:32:04 PM6/24/20
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so is a bullet to the back of the head.

Bruce

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Jun 24, 2020, 3:44:17 PM6/24/20
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Please only kill white graffiti artists. All these demonstrations are
a bad idea during covid times.

Dave Smith

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Jun 24, 2020, 5:42:25 PM6/24/20
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Some people actually think it should be encouraged. I have seen some
interesting street art, but most of it is obscene crap. If I ran the
world anyone caught defacing property would be responsible for cleaning
up not only what they were caught doing, but all the graffiti in that
area. They can do it themselves or they can pay a professional. And that
means cleaning the graffiti itself and repainting the surface they had
defaced.

Dave Smith

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Jun 24, 2020, 6:02:49 PM6/24/20
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Yet Americans can get away with shooting people running away with their
stuff.


Dave Smith

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Jun 24, 2020, 6:04:30 PM6/24/20
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Yeah, to some degree. Someone in my extended family was convicted of a
$14.5 million fraud. It ruined the lives of a number of people. One of
them was so shattered he suffered a fatal heart attack.

Taxed and Spent

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Jun 24, 2020, 6:17:40 PM6/24/20
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No they can't. More's the pity.

Dave Smith

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Jun 24, 2020, 6:21:34 PM6/24/20
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There are cases where they have. There was a case a few years ago where
a guy in Texas <?> reported burglars making off with his neighbour's
stuff. He said he was going to shoot them. The dispatcher told him not
to. He shot them anyway, and the grand jury would not indict him.

Bruce

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Jun 24, 2020, 7:29:33 PM6/24/20
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Dave Smith, the Canadian Duterte!

Taxed and Spent

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Jun 24, 2020, 7:34:40 PM6/24/20
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If true, that is very much the exceptional case.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 24, 2020, 7:54:42 PM6/24/20
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Druce, the Dutch Ass Sniffer!



Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 24, 2020, 8:09:02 PM6/24/20
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No, you can shoot them on the way in, but not on the way out.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 24, 2020, 8:15:57 PM6/24/20
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If they're not all the way in your house when you shoot them, drag
their worthless carcass the rest of the way in before the police arrive.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 24, 2020, 9:03:59 PM6/24/20
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Why? Wouldn't it be easier to wait for the cops to help me drag?


itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 24, 2020, 9:21:24 PM6/24/20
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:03:59 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> >> No, you can shoot them on the way in, but not on the way out.
> >>
> > If they're not all the way in your house when you shoot them, drag
> > their worthless carcass the rest of the way in before the police arrive.
> >
>
> Why? Wouldn't it be easier to wait for the cops to help me drag?
>
You can always claim he was already in the house and in fear of your life
is why you killed the cretin in case any questions are raised. You just
need the cops to drag his carcass out.

https://i.postimg.cc/CxGz2mDg/Proven-Fact.jpg

Julie Bove

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Jun 25, 2020, 5:03:23 AM6/25/20
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"Janet" <nob...@home.org> wrote in message
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We don't have mailboxes on houses here. Only house I ever had, that had that
kind was on OTIS ANGB in MA. All of the other military housing I had, had
cluster boxes. OTIS ANGB was unique in that it had its own zip code and post
office. The post office had one person working in it. Not sure what happened
when he went on vacation. I rarely needed to use the post office. Don't
recall ever seeing the mail being delivered either. But then I was rarely
looking at my front door.

Julie Bove

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Jun 25, 2020, 5:05:36 AM6/25/20
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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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They are dong that here with electrical and other utility boxes. Covering
them with bright designs of flowers, butterflies and such.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jun 25, 2020, 6:00:16 AM6/25/20
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In some places, yes. And I think that's wrong.

Cindy Hamilton
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