Yorkshire Pudding

[Ed Pawlowski]

These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat

https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>

They look like very sad English muffins.

[Ed Pawlowski]

First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

OOPS, sorry no. But yes, after scrolling down those look MUCH better!

[Bruce]

What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate? Is this the
amount Americans eat or is this for a small family?

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[Dave Smith]

On 2023-01-25 9:14 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t

Nicely done sir.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/25/2023 9:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2023 9:20 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>>
>>> They look like very sad English muffins.
>>
>> First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?
>
> What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate? Is this the
> amount Americans eat or is this for a small family?
>

Looks like a Steve platter.

[Bruce]

Ok, so that's the first option.

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[Bruce]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 15:03:39 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:35:32 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>On 1/25/2023 9:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2023 9:20 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>>>>
>>>>> They look like very sad English muffins.
>>>>
>>>> First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?
>>>
>>> What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate? Is this the
>>> amount Americans eat or is this for a small family?
>>
>>Looks like a Steve platter.
>
>Ok, so that's the first option.

I mean the human elephant.

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[Sqwertz]

On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:14:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t

They used baking powder which is illegal. And the finished plate
looks like a mess.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

> Looks like a Steve platter.

Fuck you, Ed.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

He didn't make those. He's just re-posting something he saw.

-sw

[Bruce]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:30:50 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>

wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:35:32 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2023 9:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2023 9:20 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>>>>
>>>>> They look like very sad English muffins.
>>>>
>>>> First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?
>>>
>>> What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate? Is this the
>>> amount Americans eat or is this for a small family
>>
>> Looks like a Steve platter.
>
>Fuck you, Ed.
>

Lol, lighten up "Stevers"!

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[dsi1]

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 4:14:54 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t

I was tempted to buy one of those yorkie pans in the UK but the idea of carrying around a deformed muffin tin with me was not appealing. Hopefully, the guy that eats that plate is a young man.

https://www.amazon.com/Masterclass-Non-stick-4-hole-Yorkshire-Pudding/dp/B0001IX44A

[bob]

On 2023-01-26 08:29:07 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:14:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>

> And the finished plate
> looks like a mess.
>
> -sw

Should it look more like this:

https://postlmg.cc/CBhF9XD2

[bob]

On 2023-01-26 02:59:26 +0000, Bruce said:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2023 9:20 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>>
>>> They look like very sad English muffins.
>>
>> First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?
>
> What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate?

Never seen a Wartz in the wild? The're the size of 2 full grown people.

[%]

Wertz is only half the height of a full grown person.

[Gary]

On 1/25/2023 9:59 PM, Bruce wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2023 9:20 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>>
>>> They look like very sad English muffins.
>>
>> First photo, yes. Did yo scroll down?
>
> What kind of human elephant can eat that whole plate? Is this the
> amount Americans eat or is this for a small family?

The perfect one-meal-a-day plate for Gary-head. About 2pm sounds about
right.

[bruce bowser]

Oh Joan, come on!! After the gravy goes on, who cares about the looks.

[Gary]

"One person's trash is another's treasure." :)

[Gary]

On 1/25/2023 9:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t

The plated dish (last pic) looks like an ultimate dinner to me.
Just add a couple of buttered soft dinner rolls and a tall glass of cool
but not ice cold water.

[Bruce]

That would explain it.

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[Bruce]

One-meal-a-day plate, so it's really for 3 people. That makes more
sense, although a human elephant probably considers it one meal.

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[dsi1]

Looks like a regular English-style Sunday meal to me.

[Bruce]

If Asians ate like that, kung fu would not exist. The only Martial art
would be sumo wrestling.

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[Sqwertz]

That raw pork marinating for al pastor, dumbass. And it looks
pretty sexy to me.

-sw

[dsi1]

It am what it is and that's all it tizz.

[Sqwertz]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 13:04:41 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:52:11 -0700, bob wrote:
>
>> Should it look more like this:
>>
>> https://postlmg.cc/CBhF9XD2
>

> That's raw pork marinating for al pastor, dumbass. And it looks
> pretty sexy to me.

Matter of fact, I just went downstairs and pulled some pork out of
the freezer to do that again. Thanks for reminding me to do that
again.

-sw

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> > https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
> >
> The plated dish (last pic) looks like an ultimate dinner to me.
> Just add a couple of buttered soft dinner rolls and a tall glass of cool
> but not ice cold water.
>

Yorkshire pudding is a bread, and you want buttered rolls to go with your
bread?????

[dsi1]

Here you go.

https://www.chilliandlife.com/classic-english-roast-beef-dinner/

[Bruce]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:42:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1

Yes, that's pretty big. No English kung fu fighters.

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[lucr...@fl.it]

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:34:08 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

Beef is overcooked but otherwise all looks good.

[Bruce]

Yes, it looks overcooked. Even as a meat eater the beef wouldn't be my
cup of tea.

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[jmcquown]

I thought the exact same thing, Joan.

Jill

[Sqwertz]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:42:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:

> Here you go.
>
> https://www.chilliandlife.com/classic-english-roast-beef-dinner/

Ugh. That poor beef.

-sw

[Bryan Simmons]

They Michaelized it.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

He wants buttered rolls to go with his spaghetti. Or, IIRC, potatoes.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Who needs buttered rolls when there is garlic bread?

;-)

[jmcquown]

It appears Gary doesn't think a meal is complete without buttered rolls
or some sort of bread, even if there is already a starch involved. I
don't need garlic bread with pasta but if anyone posts about not having
bread with it, watch out!

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Yep, Tojo, if there's one thing about dat rock, there are shitloads
of stereotypical british inhabitants. Much more than the few asian
leeches.

[dsi1]

That's the way the Brits like it. The good news is that they like their lamb rare/med. rare. The bad news is that the Brits like their lamb rare/med. rare.

[Hank Rogers]

Do you often have sex with a piece of meat? Even Popeye didn't
screw it, if it wasn't a relative, or a nun.

[GM]

Don't forget that our Unca Tojo "interned" LOTS of British soldiers during WWII...

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Master Druce gets lots of calories from the ass fumes he constantly
sniffs. Americans just eat food instead of inhaling their nutrients
this way. So they must eat more.

[dsi1]

The Hawaiians like their spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we like it with a piece of fried chicken and mac salad. It's lovely, quite lovely.

http://dining.staradvertiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DO-100718-InsideFeature-Zippys-LT003-clipped.jpg

[Hank Rogers]

Yorksire pudding sounds like it's just any biscuit soaked in gravy.
In the south, as a poor child, we had such desperate meals many
times in the 1950's. Sometimes we splurged and had fried ham slices
with red eye gravy. Then, we never soaked our biscuits in gravy.

[dsi1]

The 1961 Lincoln Continental to me was the herald of the 1960s. Whenever I see one, I think of the Kennedys, NASA and the space race, the beginning of color film and TV as a common thing, and straight(er) lines on cars compared to the black & white ’50s. “The torch has been passed to a new generation….” This car heralded the groundswell of change that was a coming. Its shape though is iconic and still appears in movies like the Matrix and shows like Mad Men.

Now to me it is more a time capsule, of when my parents were young, freshly married, and a whole world before them, a sense of fresh excitement.

Then the 1970s happened, with disillusionment and malaise. Seeing a Continental like this still gives me a pang of what was and what could be, maybe, again.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I guess he's running low on his carbohydrates.

[Hank Rogers]

Really? That's amazing your majesty!

[Hank Rogers]

Most any food is of poor quality after shipping weeks or months to
Uncle Tojo's rock. And expensive.

Still, it's good enough for asians.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:26:26 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> The 1961 Lincoln Continental to me was the herald of the 1960s.
>

That was a good looking car.

--Bryan

[Bruce]

>That's the way the Brits like it. The good news is that they like their lamb rare/med. rare. The bad news is that the Brits like their lamb rare/med. rare.

And they pour mint sauce over it. As Louis de Funès said: "The
English slaughter their lambs twice. Once when they kill them and once
when they cook them."

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[Hank Rogers]

GM wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:

I thought his cousin hirahito did that?

[GM]

Indeed... it was the first "modern" car of the 60's...

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/vintage-car-life-road-test-1961-lincoln-continental-sedan-the-best-looking-american-car-built-today/

Vintage Car Life Road Test: 1961 Lincoln Continental Sedan – “The Best-Looking American Car Built Today”

"The ’61 Lincoln was a game-changer, a term I don’t like to use lightly. It instantly made all of the late-’50s excess-mobiles
look utterly dated and silly. Its impact on the rest of the industry was as instantaneous as it was possible to retool: think
1962 Cadillac with its large flat C-pillar, a 180 degree change from the previous “bubble top” look...

Given the ’61 Continental’s huge and lasting impact, it’s interesting to note that this review does not spend much time
on its styling, leaving it to the very end. But that’s the benefit of hindsight; it’s not always possible to know how
impactful a new car will be on its arrival. That was even the case with the Mustang..."

</>

[GM]

Them gooks look ALL the same, Hank...

--
GM

[dsi1]

Dinks, gooks, and chinks?
Dinks, gooks, and chinks.
Dinks, gooks, and chinks.
Dinks, gooks, and chinks.
Cool, man!

[bob]

He propably saw pudding and thought dessert...

[bob]

On 2023-01-26 19:04:41 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:52:11 -0700, bob wrote:
>
>> On 2023-01-26 08:29:07 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>>

>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:14:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> These Yorkshire pudding sure look good enough to eat
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>

>>> And the finished plate
>>> looks like a mess.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Should it look more like this:
>>
>> https://postlmg.cc/CBhF9XD2
>
> That raw pork marinating for al pastor, dumbass. And it looks
> pretty sexy to me.
>
> -sw

Actualy I had to look at a lot of pics to find that sloppy one. Most
were good. You have improved on presentation over the years! I cut
mine much thinner.

[Gary]

On 1/26/2023 2:39 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/Qeqxz3t
>>>
>> The plated dish (last pic) looks like an ultimate dinner to me.
>> Just add a couple of buttered soft dinner rolls and a tall glass of cool
>> but not ice cold water.
>>
> Yorkshire pudding is a bread, and you want buttered rolls to go with your
> bread?????

Yes. Two completely different forms of bread (the evil carbs)
I also have garlic bread with spaghetti or lasagna - twice the carbs and
twice the different flavor and texture. Very complimentary too - yum.

[Gary]

Tomato-sauced pasta without garlic bread? Your loss.
Not surprising though - you often post "incomplete" meals.

[Bruce]

And that glass of water is the cherry on the cake!

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[Michael Trew]

On 1/26/2023 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:54:18 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:42:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go.
>>>
>>> https://www.chilliandlife.com/classic-english-roast-beef-dinner/
>> Ugh. That poor beef.
>>

> They Michaelized it.

Looks good to me; as long as the beef is cooked long enough to be tender.

[Bruce]

It looks like cooked to flavourless chewing gum to me. And those fat
lines that run through it, I always hated those as a kid. Are they
considered a good thing?

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[jmcquown]

To you, "incomplete" seems to mean not loaded down with extra starches;
french fries, bread or rolls. For example, a pan fried fish fillet with
a vegetable side is a perfectly satisfying meal for me and it suits my
appetite. Why would I add bread or rolls? Pasta without bread works
just fine for me, too. Fills me up and tastes very good. Hey, I like
garlic bread but I don't *need* it to make a meal "complete". Buttered
rolls with roast beef and Yorkshire pudding? Sheesh. You come across
as a glutton.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:10:15 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 1/27/2023 9:52 AM, Gary wrote:
>> On 1/26/2023 6:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> He wants buttered rolls to go with his spaghetti.  Or, IIRC, potatoes.
>>>>
>>> It appears Gary doesn't think a meal is complete without buttered
>>> rolls or some sort of bread, even if there is already a starch
>>> involved.  I don't need garlic bread with pasta but if anyone posts
>>> about not having bread with it, watch out!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Tomato-sauced pasta without garlic bread? Your loss.
>> Not surprising though - you often post "incomplete" meals.
>>
>>
>To you, "incomplete" seems to mean not loaded down with extra starches;
>french fries, bread or rolls.

This is an often used discussion technique. You take the other
person's view, exaggerate it and then criticise the exaggerated
version. It's similar to the straw man technique.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man>

>For example, a pan fried fish fillet with
>a vegetable side is a perfectly satisfying meal for me and it suits my
>appetite. Why would I add bread or rolls? Pasta without bread works
>just fine for me, too. Fills me up and tastes very good. Hey, I like
>garlic bread but I don't *need* it to make a meal "complete". Buttered
>rolls with roast beef and Yorkshire pudding? Sheesh. You come across
>as a glutton.

Steve's the RFC glutton.

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[dsi1]

That's normal for a cross rib roast. I don't think that big line of tough material is fat. I don't know what the heck that is. We used to eat cross rib roast when I was a kid because it with a cheap piece of meat. It was also tough. I think if it's sous vide long enough, you can break down that line of stuff - but I might be wrong. It's kind of a nasty piece of meat but some folks like it because it's cheap. I'll buy it if it's cheap enough and try my best to make it edible.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/83jEkqC98MLyv9cd9

[Bruce]

My mother would make us nasi or bami with bite-size pieces of beef
fillet through it. If she bought them from the supermarket, they'd
have those lines through them. If she bought them from the more
expensive local butcher, they wouldn't have them. If it's not fat,
maybe its sinew, unless that's white.

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[Michael Trew]

On 1/27/2023 16:05, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:03:25 -0500, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/26/2023 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:54:18 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:42:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here you go.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.chilliandlife.com/classic-english-roast-beef-dinner/
>>>> Ugh. That poor beef.
>>>>
>>> They Michaelized it.
>>
>> Looks good to me; as long as the beef is cooked long enough to be tender.
>
> It looks like cooked to flavourless chewing gum to me. And those fat
> lines that run through it, I always hated those as a kid. Are they
> considered a good thing?

It might be... if that's the case, I don't want any part of it. I like
roast braised to hell and back, in a slower oven, until it's super
tender, with nothing chewy or dry. If it's dry or rubbery, I have no
use for it, aside from making gravy from whatever juice was cooked out
of it.

[Dave Smith]

Long slow cooking can make a tough cut of meat more tender. I nice prime
rib is nice and tender when it's on the rare side. We had a lot of
roast beef when I was a kid. I loved the Yorkshire and gravy that went
with it and I have to admit that well cooked beef tends to make for a
better gravy, but I was never crazy about the beef. I later learned
that beef on the rate side was much more tender and much better tasting.

[jmcquown]

On 1/27/2023 5:14 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/27/2023 16:05, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:03:25 -0500, Michael Trew
>> <michae...@att.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/26/2023 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:54:18 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:42:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here you go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.chilliandlife.com/classic-english-roast-beef-dinner/
>>>>> Ugh. That poor beef.
>>>>>
>>>> They Michaelized it.
>>>
>>> Looks good to me; as long as the beef is cooked long enough to be
>>> tender.
>>
>> It looks like cooked to flavourless chewing gum to me. And those fat
>> lines that run through it, I always hated those as a kid. Are they
>> considered a good thing?
>

Hey, Bruce, I agree with you! Looks like it was cooked to chewing gum.
As for those fat lines... in nicely marbled not cooked to death meat
they meld into the beef and add flavour. But hey, I don't want to eat
the fat, either. When you slice a piece of nicely (not overcooked) beef
you can easily trim the fat. We're not talking 'Jack Sprat could eat no
fat, his wife could eat no lean' here. ;) You don't have to eat it but
it makes the beef taste so much better.

> It might be... if that's the case, I don't want any part of it.  I like
> roast braised to hell and back, in a slower oven, until it's super
> tender, with nothing chewy or dry.  If it's dry or rubbery, I have no
> use for it, aside from making gravy from whatever juice was cooked out
> of it.

Depends on the cut of beef. Chuck roast is always well done in my house
but that's simmered, not roasted. Steaks and other cuts (including
pork) are not cooked to well done. Neither is a hamburger.

Jill