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Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 3:49:52 AM4/2/12
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I have two of those lazy Susan type cupboards where the roundish shelves
just sort of go around and around. The cupboard is not a complete circle.
I had previously lined them with white Contact paper but that didn't work so
well. I couldn't get a piece that was the right size so I wound up piecing
some together. It looked like crap. I decided to remove the paper in the
flour cupboard after I discovered the weevils. That cupboard has since had
pretty much everything replaced except for the salt.

The other cupboard has mainly canned goods but the liner is old looking and
starting to rip.

I have bought some of that spongy liner with the holes in it in the hopes
that it will keep things from sliding. One problem I've had is stuff flying
off the sides as the shelves spin around.

But how to cut it? This might be easier to install because it is more
flexible. I had purchased some white liner online that just didn't work at
all. It was very stiff and slick and even when cut in pieces there turned
out not to be enough of it. I am not sure the stuff I have now is big
enough to be able to put just one piece in. I don't really know how to
explain it but the curved design is baffling me. Also the fact that I can't
access the entire cupboard at once. I can only get to like...half of it or
so.

Any ideas? Or hmmm... Maybe I could pay my nephew to do the lining for me.
He's had a heck of a lot more math than I have.


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Brooklyn1

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:18:43 AM4/2/12
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Lazy susans in corner cabinets are a waste of space and schmutz
collectors, especially underneath... get rid of them. I use one of
those grocer's friends to reach into the far recesses of corner
cabinets... a good place to store paper products.

Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:31:07 AM4/2/12
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"Bull" <bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
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> In article <jlblms$d14$1...@dont-email.me>,
> I made a pattern. Cut the liner like the pattern and fit. If the
> material isn't large enough make a butt seam and tape it on the
> underside. (I used packing tape) Install fitted liner.

But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you do it?


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:33:25 AM4/2/12
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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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I would love to get rid of them but I can't afford to redo my kitchen. I
don't even have room to store paper products in the kitchen. They are in
the garage. I do have a small pullout cabinet to store things like plastic
bags. I freaking hate those pullouts too but all of my lower cabinets are
those. Things fall behind just as they fly off the shelves of the lazy
Susan. I just ordered some new reaching tools. It is hard for me to get
back there.


Pennyaline

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:12:13 PM4/2/12
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On 4/2/2012 8:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I would love to get rid of them but I can't afford to redo my kitchen. I
> don't even have room to store paper products in the kitchen. They are in
> the garage. I do have a small pullout cabinet to store things like plastic
> bags. I freaking hate those pullouts too but all of my lower cabinets are
> those. Things fall behind just as they fly off the shelves of the lazy
> Susan. I just ordered some new reaching tools. It is hard for me to get
> back there.


Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the damned
thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan things in my
parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had them in one of my
kitchens once, and I've not experienced anything flying off. Falling
over, yes, but never falling off or flying anywhere.
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Lou Decruss

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:33:22 PM4/2/12
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Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of paper
or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke a hole at
the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to trace it on your
material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.

Lou







Brooklyn1

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:34:54 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:33:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
There is no kitchen redoing. It should be very easy to remove the
lazy susan, all you need is a screw driver and someone who can reach
into the cabinet to remove the bracket at the top, then the whole
assembly lifts out so you can remove the bottom bracket, or just leave
it there... I'd reattach the top bracket as well so it doesn't get
misplaced in case someone wants to reinstall the lazy susan.



Nancy Young

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:47:11 PM4/2/12
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On 4/2/2012 10:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bull"<bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message

I used newspaper. I don't remember if I had to tape a couple of
sheets together to cover the whole area. Then I just folded the
newspaper along the edges until it was the shape I wanted.

I lined my lazy susan shelves with vinyl flooring. Very sturdy
and I take it out and scrub it once a year or so.

nancy

Janet

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Apr 2, 2012, 1:31:50 PM4/2/12
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> On 4/2/2012 10:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> > But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you do it?

Use a double-page of newspaper. If your newspaper is too small tape two
sheets together.

You need some string, a pencil and a tape measure or ruler. Tie the
pencil onto one eld of the string.

Measure the width of your lazy susan across the middle. That's the
diameter of the circle. The radius of the circle is half the diameter. Cut
the string to half the diameter.

Put the cut end in the middle of the paper, hold it with one finger.
With the other hand, hold the string taut and the pencil straight and use
it to draw a circle. Cut it out. That;s your pattern.

If your Lazy susan has a centre spindle you'll need a centre cut out on
the patternpaper to fit round it. Fold your paper circle in half, then in
quarters, and cut off the point. Now cut a straight line from the centre
hole to one edge of the circle. Lay your paper pattern on the lazy susan
to check it's a good fit.

Janet

Nancy2

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Apr 2, 2012, 2:48:59 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 9:31 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Bull" <b...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
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> > In article <jlblms$d1...@dont-email.me>,
Geez, Julie, it isn't rocket science - how do you make a pattern for
anything? You can access the curved edge of the shelf by turning it
around - just cut a bunch of pie-shaped pieces (use just one small
piece of newspaper to make one pie-shaped piece that has the proper
curvature on it) and tape them together to exactly fit the shelf. I
guess you would have to empty the shelf first. Duh.

N.

Brooklyn1

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Apr 2, 2012, 3:19:49 PM4/2/12
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Didn't you ever cut out paper valentine hearts and paper doilys in
kindergarten by folding and then cutting through all layers at once?

A couple lengths of butcher paper taped together to form a slightly
over sized square should do it... can fold the paper in half, in half
again, and in half once more to make a triangle, then measure from the
point the radius distance and cut on a tangent. Snip off the very
point to make an opening for the center post, open the sheet, tuck the
excess arcs under and tape to add strength, open one taped radius to
slip over the center post and retape and there you have it.

Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:49:23 PM4/2/12
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There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the shelf. So
they fly off. You have to use quite a lot of force to open them because
they stick very badly. Very poor design. My daughter likes to have them
closed and I prefer the look of them closed but feasibly I try to keep them
open because it is far less hassle.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:49:57 PM4/2/12
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But then I'd be left with a big gaping hole!


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:50:55 PM4/2/12
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Bull wrote:
> In article <jlcd7b$l3t$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> "Bull" <bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
>
>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>> do it?
>
> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
> the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one. :)
> when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
> Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
> the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
> do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
> There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
> mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
> there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
> "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.

How do I measure the diamater of the circle? I am not good with math. My
house was built in 81 but was probably remodeled around 90.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:51:22 PM4/2/12
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What's an axis? I really am not good at math.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:51:48 PM4/2/12
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Thanks. That makes sense. Maybe next time I will use flooring.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:52:23 PM4/2/12
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Thanks! That really helps.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:52:57 PM4/2/12
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Thanks!


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:53:37 PM4/2/12
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I don't know. That's why I asked. I have never made a pattern for
anything!


Brooklyn1

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Apr 2, 2012, 6:13:45 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:49:57 -0700, "Julie Bove"
No, I'm not going to say it.

Pennyaline

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Apr 2, 2012, 9:09:17 PM4/2/12
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On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the shelf.

Of a lazy susan??

Pennyaline

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Apr 2, 2012, 9:12:31 PM4/2/12
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On 4/2/2012 3:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.


I can't take it anymore.

Julie Bove

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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the shelf.
>
> Of a lazy susan??

Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if you stack
two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off. The other
cupboard is the one I use for flour and baking things. Everything in there
is now in a plastic container so not likely to fall off. But prior I just
had the bags in there. They were all small bags because these were
alternate flours like rice and tapioca. The bags would fall off of the
ends.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 9:22:04 PM4/2/12
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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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> On 4/2/2012 3:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>
>
> I can't take it anymore.

Then don't. I only took up to 9th grade math. I never took geometry. Some
people have explained how to do it using newspaper and the like. So now I
understand. Mathematical terms, I don't understand. Yeah I could look it
up. But I really wanted an answer. That's why I asked.


Janet

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:05:39 PM4/2/12
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In article <7btjn7hftf9b999of...@4ax.com>, Brooklyn1 says...
>
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:31:50 +0100, Janet <H...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> On 4/2/2012 10:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> > But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you do it?
> >
> > Use a double-page of newspaper. If your newspaper is too small tape two
> >sheets together.
> >
> > You need some string, a pencil and a tape measure or ruler. Tie the
> >pencil onto one eld of the string.
> >
> > Measure the width of your lazy susan across the middle. That's the
> >diameter of the circle. The radius of the circle is half the diameter. Cut
> >the string to half the diameter.
> >
> > Put the cut end in the middle of the paper, hold it with one finger.
> >With the other hand, hold the string taut and the pencil straight and use
> >it to draw a circle. Cut it out. That;s your pattern.
> >
> > If your Lazy susan has a centre spindle you'll need a centre cut out on
> >the patternpaper to fit round it. Fold your paper circle in half, then in
> >quarters, and cut off the point. Now cut a straight line from the centre
> >hole to one edge of the circle. Lay your paper pattern on the lazy susan
> >to check it's a good fit.
>
> Didn't you ever cut out paper valentine hearts and paper doilys in
> kindergarten by folding and then cutting through all layers at once?
> A couple lengths of butcher paper taped together to form a slightly
> over sized square should do it... can fold the paper in half, in half
> again, and in half once more to make a triangle, then measure from the
> point the radius distance and cut on a tangent.

Gawd it was the simplest explanation for Julie who can't even work out
how to cut a circle; do you seriously think she understands words like
radius and tangent?

Janet

Janet

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:07:09 PM4/2/12
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In article <jld6u5$k3d$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...

> But then I'd be left with a big gaping hole!

<sits on hands. I will resist, I will resist...>

Janet

Janet

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:11:09 PM4/2/12
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In article <jld6vv$kjl$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
tape measure.


Janet


Janet

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:14:00 PM4/2/12
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In article <jldjbq$n4i$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
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> "Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
> news:4f7a4e7f$0$9077$815e...@news.qwest.net...
> > On 4/2/2012 3:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
> >
> >
> > I can't take it anymore.
>
> Then don't. I only took up to 9th grade math.

I don't believe US ninth graders don't learn such basics. It's primary
school stuff.

Janet


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:20:03 PM4/2/12
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"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.


Julie Bove

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"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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Maybe it is now but I never learned it. We did adding, subtracting,
multiplying, dividing and some algebra in Junior High.


Pennyaline

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:40:59 PM4/2/12
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I'll ask again: The "shelves" of your lazy susan have "ends"? You mean
to say that they are not a level or two of complete circles that turn on
a center post?

Julie Bove

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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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I said before they are not complete circles. No. There is a front to the
cabinet with two pieces to it that meet at right angles. You push it either
way to access the food within. There are two shelves each with a shallow
lip. At either end there is just a lot of air space where the corners are.
Stuff falls off of that.


Julie Bove

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:08:52 PM4/2/12
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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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Here's a pic of something similar. This isn't exactly what mine is because
mine is all wood and is attached to the cabinet fronts. It's the pie cut.
Mine has two shelves.

http://www.cabinetparts.com/c/kitchen-lazy-susans/?gclid=CJbboM_Zl68CFQOEhwod3n10xg


itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:12:38 PM4/2/12
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On Monday, April 2, 2012 11:12:13 AM UTC-5, Pennyaline wrote:
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>
>
> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the damned
> thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan things in my
> parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had them in one of my
> kitchens once, and I've not experienced anything flying off. Falling
> over, yes, but never falling off or flying anywhere.
>
>
If things are flying off because you are having to use so much force to turn this lazy susan then it needs to be adjusted so it will turn easily. And why do these shelves HAVE to be lined???


itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:07:21 PM4/2/12
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On Monday, April 2, 2012 9:18:43 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 00:49:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> >I have two of those lazy Susan type cupboards where the roundish shelves
> >just sort of go around and around.
>
> Lazy susans in corner cabinets are a waste of space and schmutz
> collectors, especially underneath... get rid of them. I use one of
> those grocer's friends to reach into the far recesses of corner
> cabinets... a good place to store paper products.
>
>
I have a lazy susan cabinet in my kitchen, it's in a lower cabinet and has been a blessing for me. Everything is within easy reach, on both shelves.

Julie Bove

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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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They are made of porous wood. If I had the plastic ones, I wouldn't bother
to line them. I guess technically they don't *have* to be lined especially
since I have everything in the one cupboard in plastic containers. However
the previous owner had lined them with Contact paper that was ripped and bad
looking. It didn't peel up fully and neither did the paper that I put on
there. So there's a lot of adhesive with paper stuck to it here and there.
Looks like crap. Plus I sprayed the one with bug spray after I got the
weevils. I would just feel safer to have a layer of something between it
and my food.

My cupboard apparently isn't typical from what I have just looked at online
because the cabinet front is attached to the lazy Susan. This (I think) in
and of itself is causing it to go off balance. That and the way the cabinet
front fits into the opening. I think the wood swells and causes it to
stick. Sometimes it will only go one way and not the other.
>
>


itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:53:58 PM4/2/12
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My double lazy susan has the cabinet door attached to the shelves and looke like a large pie wedge. How would those shelves fair if you painted them?

Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:00:01 AM4/3/12
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<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I don't know but... I don't like to use paint and with a curious little
kitten in the house it probably wouldn't go so well. I wouldn't think most
paint would be washable though and if I did get that kind it would require
many coats of paint given how porous that wood is.


The Cook

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Apr 3, 2012, 7:19:28 AM4/3/12
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Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 8:10:26 AM4/3/12
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Janet wrote:

> Gawd it was the simplest explanation for Julie who can't even work out
> how to cut a circle; do you seriously think she understands words like
> radius and tangent?

I haven't used my radius in ages -- all the music and talk I need is
on the Web. I do like tangents because they're easier to peel than
regular oranges.

George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 8:12:17 AM4/3/12
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Julie Bove wrote:

> > I don't believe US ninth graders don't learn such basics. It's primary
> > school stuff.
>
> Maybe it is now but I never learned it. We did adding, subtracting,
> multiplying, dividing and some algebra in Junior High.

Home ec can be engrossing for mathophobes.


Pennyaline

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Apr 3, 2012, 9:56:49 AM4/3/12
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<*sigh*>



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Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 10:35:11 AM4/3/12
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"The Cook" <susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I can't
access all of it at once.


Julie Bove

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"George M. Middius" <glan...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The only math we learned in Home Ec was how to scale a recipe up or down.


Julie Bove

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"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:XnsA02A68B...@216.196.97.131...
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I have two of those lazy Susan type cupboards where the roundish
>> shelves just sort of go around and around. The cupboard is not a
>> complete circle. I had previously lined them with white Contact paper
>> but that didn't work so well. I couldn't get a piece that was the
>> right size so I wound up piecing some together. It looked like crap.
>> I decided to remove the paper in the flour cupboard after I discovered
>> the weevils. That cupboard has since had pretty much everything
>> replaced except for the salt.
>>
>> The other cupboard has mainly canned goods but the liner is old
>> looking and starting to rip.
>>
>> I have bought some of that spongy liner with the holes in it in the
>> hopes that it will keep things from sliding. One problem I've had is
>> stuff flying off the sides as the shelves spin around.
>>
>> But how to cut it? This might be easier to install because it is more
>> flexible. I had purchased some white liner online that just didn't
>> work at all. It was very stiff and slick and even when cut in pieces
>> there turned out not to be enough of it. I am not sure the stuff I
>> have now is big enough to be able to put just one piece in. I don't
>> really know how to explain it but the curved design is baffling me.
>> Also the fact that I can't access the entire cupboard at once. I can
>> only get to like...half of it or so.
>>
>> Any ideas? Or hmmm... Maybe I could pay my nephew to do the lining
>> for me. He's had a heck of a lot more math than I have.
>
>
> Julie,
>
> I have the same lazy susans. The door takes up 1/4 of the shelves.
>
> How about a little "pizza geometry?"
>
> Your liners should look like this:
>
> http://oi43.tinypic.com/r87511.jpg
>
> Start with large pizza and trim around the "crust" to fit the shelf.
>
> Once one liner fits use that to duplicate as many as needed by tracing
> the shape and cut with scissors.

Yes! The problem is that the liner I think is not big enough to do that.


Brooklyn1

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Apr 3, 2012, 10:56:34 AM4/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
Diameter is that number on your bra size label.

Brooklyn1

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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:19:28 -0400, The Cook <susan_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Then what's circumference? duh

Nancy2

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:03:22 AM4/3/12
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On Apr 2, 8:12 pm, Pennyaline <norwegianb...@beatifulplummage.innit>
wrote:
> On 4/2/2012 3:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > What's an axis?  I really am not good at math.
>
> I can't take it anymore.

Yeah, we should all cry "uncle," and move on. Even Shel won't touch
it. LOL.

N.

Nancy2

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:06:22 AM4/3/12
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On Apr 2, 11:00 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> > On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:40:08 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
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> >> <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
You don't like to use paint, but you willingly spray BUG SPRAY inside
a FOOD STORAGE AREA. I give up. I actually don't know how you manage
to wake up in the morning or use a computer.

N.

Brooklyn1

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:18:16 AM4/3/12
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Those things waste a lot of space... I'd remove them. I have two
corner cabinets that are quite deep, so I use them to store tall items
like paper towels stacked on end, aluminum foil/wax paper, plastic
wrap boxes on end, 2 liter soda bottles, way into the depths gallon
jugs of emergency water, and near the front 1.75 L bottles of Crystal
Palace. I wouldn't think to store canned goods in any bottom cabinet,
they are all too deep and too low... I hate creeping about on the
floor to find stuff. Bottom cabinets are for storing large items one
doesn't use on a daily basis, even a monthly basis. But I do use
those small plastic lazy susans from Rubbermaid (I have three) in one
of my upper cabinets for storing spice bottles; items on the lazy
susan and items around the perimeter, no wasted space. I don't store
many canned goods and rarely used items in my kitchen, that's what a
basement is for.

George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:22:52 AM4/3/12
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Brooklyn1 wrote:

> >Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
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> Then what's circumference? duh

You can learn that at your mosque.

Brooklyn1

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:29:51 AM4/3/12
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Nancy Young's suggestion; self stick floor tiles, inexpensive and easy
to cut with scissors. And washable paint is readily available, it's
called deck enamel, used to paint concrete floors but can be used on
wood too... both oil based and water based are available... there are
also very nice epoxy paints, more expensive but you don't need much
for lazy susans. Personally I'd remove those lazy susans and toss
them into the trash.

Janet

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:32:28 AM4/3/12
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In article <ptmln7dmgm3o4om18...@4ax.com>, susan_r23666
@yahoo.com says...
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> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message

> >>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
> >>> I am not good with math.
> >>
> >> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
> >> tape measure.
> >
> >But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>
> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.

Nope, that's the circumference.

Gawd, two of them. Can you believe it.

Janet
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jmcquown

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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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> On 4/2/2012 8:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I would love to get rid of them but I can't afford to redo my kitchen. I
>> don't even have room to store paper products in the kitchen. They are in
>> the garage. I do have a small pullout cabinet to store things like
>> plastic
>> bags. I freaking hate those pullouts too but all of my lower cabinets
>> are
>> those. Things fall behind just as they fly off the shelves of the lazy
>> Susan. I just ordered some new reaching tools. It is hard for me to get
>> back there.
>
>
> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the damned
> thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan things in my
> parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had them in one of my
> kitchens once, and I've not experienced anything flying off. Falling over,
> yes, but never falling off or flying anywhere.


Exactly! I had one lazy susan cabinet in a kitchen years ago. I stored
jars of spices and bottles of things like worcestershire, teriyaki and other
bottled sauces there. I certainly didn't spin it so hard things flew off to
the back of the cabinet!

I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy susan
on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and spices :)
And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the aforementioned bottles.
Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I don't spin them like roulette
wheels.

Jill

jmcquown

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:15:36 PM4/3/12
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"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
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> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Pennyaline"<norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
>> news:4f7a4dbd$0$9077$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the shelf.
>>>
>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>
>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if you
>> stack
>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off.
(snippage)

So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't designed
for stacking canned goods.

Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are built-in lazy
susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one instance where I'd like to
see a photograph of all these (opened) lazy-susan style cabinets.

Jill

Dave Smith

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:36:38 PM4/3/12
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On 03/04/2012 12:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
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off to the back of the cabinet!
>
> I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy
> susan on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and
> spices :) And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the
> aforementioned bottles. Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I
> don't spin them like roulette wheels.
>
>

My parents had one and we had one for a while. I sure didn't have to
move it hard to make things fall over or to fall off the shelf. Many
items were lost in the far corner.


Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:12:31 -0600, Pennyaline
<norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote:

>On 4/2/2012 3:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>
>
>I can't take it anymore.

LOL Me neither.

Lou

Pennyaline

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Apr 3, 2012, 1:52:43 PM4/3/12
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Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
outside of a circle is its circumference.

Pennyaline

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Apr 3, 2012, 1:53:32 PM4/3/12
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Are they circumscribed there?


Lou Decruss

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Apr 3, 2012, 1:53:52 PM4/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>

>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of paper
>> or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke a hole at
>> the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to trace it on your
>> material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
>
>What's an axis? I really am not good at math.

Google it FFS.

Lou

Sky

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Apr 3, 2012, 2:06:09 PM4/3/12
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More than likely she doesn't even know what a compass is, and I don't
mean the sort that shows which direction is N.

Sky

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Janet

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In article <4f7b38eb$0$52267$815e...@news.qwest.net>,
norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit says...
>

> >>>>>> "Julie Bove"<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

> >>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
> >>>>> I am not good with math.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
> >>>> tape measure.
> >>>
> >>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
> >>
> >> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
> >
> > Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I can't
> > access all of it at once.
>
>
> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
> outside of a circle is its circumference.

More hard words.

Bisect.. an insect that lost four legs
Arc.. get that welder out and fix the lazy susan
Degree..not available for graduating ninth grade.

Janet

George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 2:20:26 PM4/3/12
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Pennyaline wrote:

> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
> outside of a circle is its circumference.

Nice use of 4th-grade terminology.

For julie: A "straight line" is like a piece of string pulled tight.
"Bisect" means to cut in two pieces of the same size. The "center" is
the middle. "180 degrees" means halfway around a circle, like from 12
o'clock to 6 o'clock on a round clock. (A clock is a device we use to
keep track of time.) An "arc" is a curve, like in the road or around
the edge of a baseball. Don't even worry about "circumference".

You're welcome.


Ophelia

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"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
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Come on Lou. I don't think you are so unkind ... Not even Shel is
trashing her.

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Brooklyn1

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Apr 3, 2012, 2:30:39 PM4/3/12
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Don't you mean circumcision, Minimind?

Brooklyn1

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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:15:36 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

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>"Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
>news:4f7a633c$0$52252$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Pennyaline"<norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
>>> news:4f7a4dbd$0$9077$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the shelf.
>>>>
>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>
>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if you
>>> stack
>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off.
>(snippage)
>
>So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't designed
>for stacking canned goods.
>
>Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are built-in lazy
>susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one instance where I'd like to
>see a photograph of all these (opened) lazy-susan style cabinets.
>
>Jill

Here you can see my spice storage with three Rubbermaid lazy susans:
http://i43.tinypic.com/f23u52.jpg
Long ago I rented an appartment that had lazy susans in bottom corner
cabinests, I removed them to storage in the landlord's garage... those
deep corner cabinets were more suitable for storing large bulky items.

The Cook

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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:35:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:06:22 PM4/3/12
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Brain fart on my part. My brain thinks one thing and my fingers do
another. I really do know the difference. I figured out the volume
of a round cake pan a couple of days ago.

I finished college 50 years ago.

Ophelia

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"The Cook" <susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That will work:)

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Brooklyn1

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:21:37 PM4/3/12
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Now Julie is going to ask if those degrees are Fahrenheit or
Centigrade.

Lou Decruss

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:39:12 PM4/3/12
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:06:09 -0500, Sky <skyh...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM>
wrote:

>On 4/3/2012 12:53 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of paper
>>>> or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke a hole at
>>>> the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to trace it on your
>>>> material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
>>>
>>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>>
>> Google it FFS.
>>
>> Lou
>
>More than likely she doesn't even know what a compass is, and I don't
>mean the sort that shows which direction is N.

Isn't a compass where schools are at?

Lou

Lou Decruss

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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
She doesn't want to help herself. Several posters have given her
plenty of answers but she seems to want someone to come over and do it
for her.

Lou

Nancy2

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On Apr 3, 12:53 pm, Lou Decruss <LouDecr...@biteme.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
Those were the losers in WWII.

N.

Nancy Young

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:06:21 PM4/3/12
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> Those were the losers in WWII.

Huh, I thought it was like, axis a question.

nancy

Nancy2

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On Apr 3, 1:15 pm, Janet <H...@invalid.net> wrote:
> In article <4f7b38eb$0$52267$815e3...@news.qwest.net>,
> norwegianb...@beatifulplummage.innit says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> > >>>>>> "Julie Bove"<julieb...@frontier.com>  wrote:
> > >>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
> > >>>>> I am not good with math.
>
> > >>>>   Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
> > >>>> tape measure.
>
> > >>> But you do to know what diameter is.  And I don't know.
>
> > >> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>
> > > Thank you.  That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I can't
> > > access all of it at once.
>
> > Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> > length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> > center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
> > outside of a circle is its circumference.
>
>   More hard words.
>
>   Bisect.. an insect that lost four legs
>   Arc.. get that welder out  and fix the lazy susan
>   Degree..not available for graduating ninth grade.
>
>    Janet

I didn't put any lazy Susan type gizmos or shelves in my new kitchen
because there is so much wasted space - kind of the difference between
a 12" square pan and a 12" round pan. (That would be 12" on each side
of the square pan, and 12" DIAMETER for the round pan. LOL.)

N.

Ophelia

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"Lou Decruss" <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote in message
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Never mind. Her husband will be home soon. I doubt she will be worried
about such mundane things:)


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Ophelia

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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
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lol

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Krypsis

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:36:04 PM4/3/12
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On 3/04/2012 7:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bull"<bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bull-A0D9E4.0...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
>>>> In article<jlblms$d14$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> "Julie Bove"<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have two of those lazy Susan type cupboards where the roundish
>>>>> shelves just sort of go around and around. The cupboard is not a
>>>>> complete circle.
>>>>> I had previously lined them with white Contact paper but that
>>>>> didn't work so
>>>>> well. I couldn't get a piece that was the right size so I wound up
>>>>> piecing
>>>>> some together. It looked like crap. I decided to remove the
>>>>> paper in the
>>>>> flour cupboard after I discovered the weevils. That cupboard has
>>>>> since had
>>>>> pretty much everything replaced except for the salt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other cupboard has mainly canned goods but the liner is old
>>>>> looking and
>>>>> starting to rip.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have bought some of that spongy liner with the holes in it in
>>>>> the hopes that it will keep things from sliding. One problem I've
>>>>> had is stuff flying
>>>>> off the sides as the shelves spin around.
>>>>>
>>>>> But how to cut it? This might be easier to install because it is
>>>>> more flexible. I had purchased some white liner online that just
>>>>> didn't work at
>>>>> all. It was very stiff and slick and even when cut in pieces there
>>>>> turned
>>>>> out not to be enough of it. I am not sure the stuff I have now is
>>>>> big enough to be able to put just one piece in. I don't really
>>>>> know how to explain it but the curved design is baffling me. Also
>>>>> the fact that I can't
>>>>> access the entire cupboard at once. I can only get to like...half
>>>>> of it or
>>>>> so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas? Or hmmm... Maybe I could pay my nephew to do the
>>>>> lining for me.
>>>>> He's had a heck of a lot more math than I have.
>>>>
>>>> I made a pattern. Cut the liner like the pattern and fit. If the
>>>> material isn't large enough make a butt seam and tape it on the
>>>> underside. (I used packing tape) Install fitted liner.
>>>
>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>>> do it?
>>>
>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of paper
>> or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke a hole at
>> the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to trace it on your
>> material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
>
> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>
>
See George Bush' "Axis of Evil" or, simplified version, 3 countries that
don't like the US.

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George M. Middius

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Sh-sh-shelley gurgled:

> >> >Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
> >>
> >> Then what's circumference? duh
> >
> >You can learn that at your mosque.
>
> Don't you mean circumcision, Minimind?

You might very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:47:32 PM4/3/12
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The Cook wrote:

> Brain fart on my part. My brain thinks one thing and my fingers do
> another. I really do know the difference. I figured out the volume
> of a round cake pan a couple of days ago.

I don't have a round cake pan, but I do have two oblong ones (6x9 and
9x13). Suppose I were Julie, and I wanted to bake something that
called for an 8" round pan. Whatever would I do?


George M. Middius

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:50:04 PM4/3/12
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Sheldon "I dropped my ass and I can't get up" mocks poor Julie.

> >Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> >length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> >center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs.
>
> Now Julie is going to ask if those degrees are Fahrenheit or
> Centigrade.

If you really wanted to be helpful, you'd remind poor Julie that a
180-degree arc is equivalent to a 1-radian arc. But will you ever be
helpful? No, you're too busy groveling five times a day with your ass
in the air.


Julie Bove

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.29e46c94d...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In article <jld6vv$kjl$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>> > In article <jlcd7b$l3t$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> > "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Bull" <bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
>>>> >
>>>> >> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>>>> >> do it?
>>>> >
>>>> > The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
>>>> > the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one. :)
>>>> > when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
>>>> > Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
>>>> > the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
>>>> > do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
>>>> > There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
>>>> > mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
>>>> > there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
>>>> > "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>
>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>
>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
>>> tape measure.
>>
>>But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>
> Diameter is that number on your bra size label.

Not telling you what that is.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:35:36 PM4/3/12
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"Bull" <bu...@bluemail.net> wrote in message
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> In article <gv3mn7litmkei180s...@4ax.com>,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> >Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>
>> Then what's circumference? duh
>
> Andy could you draw up a pepperoni circumcision?

Ew. I don't want to see that.


Julie Bove

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Nancy2 wrote:
> On Apr 2, 11:00 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9915747.2067.1333425238531.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:40:08 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>> <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:8712123.454.1333422758312.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc41...
>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 11:12:13 AM UTC-5, Pennyaline wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the
>>>>>> damned thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan
>>>>>> things in my parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had
>>>>>> them in one of my kitchens once, and I've not experienced
>>>>>> anything flying off. Falling over, yes, but never falling off or
>>>>>> flying anywhere.
>>
>>>>> If things are flying off because you are having to use so much
>>>>> force to turn this lazy susan then it needs to be adjusted so it
>>>>> will turn easily.
>>>>> And why do these shelves HAVE to be lined???
>>
>>>> They are made of porous wood. If I had the plastic ones, I wouldn't
>>>> bother
>>>> to line them. I guess technically they don't *have* to be lined
>>>> especially
>>>> since I have everything in the one cupboard in plastic containers.
>>>> However
>>>> the previous owner had lined them with Contact paper that was
>>>> ripped and bad
>>>> looking. It didn't peel up fully and neither did the paper that I
>>>> put on there. So there's a lot of adhesive with paper stuck to it
>>>> here and there.
>>>> Looks like crap. Plus I sprayed the one with bug spray after I got
>>>> the weevils. I would just feel safer to have a layer of something
>>>> between it and my food.
>>
>>>> My cupboard apparently isn't typical from what I have just looked
>>>> at online
>>>> because the cabinet front is attached to the lazy Susan. This (I
>>>> think) in
>>>> and of itself is causing it to go off balance. That and the way the
>>>> cabinet
>>>> front fits into the opening. I think the wood swells and causes it
>>>> to stick. Sometimes it will only go one way and not the other.
>>
>>> My double lazy susan has the cabinet door attached to the shelves
>>> and looke like a large pie wedge. How would those shelves fair if
>>> you painted them?
>>
>> I don't know but... I don't like to use paint and with a curious
>> little kitten in the house it probably wouldn't go so well. I
>> wouldn't think most paint would be washable though and if I did get
>> that kind it would require many coats of paint given how porous that
>> wood is.
>
> You don't like to use paint, but you willingly spray BUG SPRAY inside
> a FOOD STORAGE AREA. I give up. I actually don't know how you manage
> to wake up in the morning or use a computer.

Well I don't really see how the paint would help anyway. In order to paint,
I would have to sand it all down and that would be a PITA. Then I don't
think it could be cleaned very well. I would still have to line it. No? I
lived in an apartment with painted shelves and I still lined those.


Julie Bove

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:08:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
>> news:4f7a633c$0$52252$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Pennyaline"<norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in
>>>> message news:4f7a4dbd$0$9077$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the
>>>>>> shelf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>>
>>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if
>>>> you stack
>>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off. The
>>>> other cupboard is the one I use for flour and baking things.
>>>> Everything in there
>>>> is now in a plastic container so not likely to fall off. But
>>>> prior I just
>>>> had the bags in there. They were all small bags because these were
>>>> alternate flours like rice and tapioca. The bags would fall off
>>>> of the ends.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll ask again: The "shelves" of your lazy susan have "ends"? You
>>> mean to say that they are not a level or two of complete circles
>>> that turn on a center post?
>>
>> Here's a pic of something similar. This isn't exactly what mine is
>> because mine is all wood and is attached to the cabinet fronts.
>> It's the pie cut. Mine has two shelves.
>>
>> http://www.cabinetparts.com/c/kitchen-lazy-susans/?gclid=CJbboM_Zl68CFQOEhwod3n10xg
>
> Those things waste a lot of space... I'd remove them. I have two
> corner cabinets that are quite deep, so I use them to store tall items
> like paper towels stacked on end, aluminum foil/wax paper, plastic
> wrap boxes on end, 2 liter soda bottles, way into the depths gallon
> jugs of emergency water, and near the front 1.75 L bottles of Crystal
> Palace. I wouldn't think to store canned goods in any bottom cabinet,
> they are all too deep and too low... I hate creeping about on the
> floor to find stuff. Bottom cabinets are for storing large items one
> doesn't use on a daily basis, even a monthly basis. But I do use
> those small plastic lazy susans from Rubbermaid (I have three) in one
> of my upper cabinets for storing spice bottles; items on the lazy
> susan and items around the perimeter, no wasted space. I don't store
> many canned goods and rarely used items in my kitchen, that's what a
> basement is for.

I haven't got much choice. I have no pantry and most of my top cupboards
are filled with dishes and casseroles. I do not have a lot of those either.
I have one small cupboard with cat food. One with rice and pasta, one with
spices, one with oil, vinegar, nuts, and any other smallish things that I
can't put anywhere else. Every cupboard I have is full to the max. The top
of my fridge is full of things like crackers and beef jerky. And I've had
to put a shelving unit in my dining room for chips and cereal.

As I said before and I know you will make a joke about it... If I remove
the lazy Susan there will be a gaping hole. Not even cupboard doors because
they are attached to the lazy Susan. Hardly a good place to store things.

My other lower cabinets are all pullouts and also a bad design in that they
are shallow and things are constantly bailing over the back. For this
reason I try not to pull them out. One has pots and pans. One has baking
pans, tortilla warmers, larger plastics, and the other has bags and wraps.

There are no other cupboards. If I remember correctly there are 13 total.
Some of them very small.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:44:03 PM4/3/12
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:00:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> news:9915747.2067.1333425238531.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8...
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:40:08 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> Nancy Young's suggestion; self stick floor tiles, inexpensive and easy
> to cut with scissors. And washable paint is readily available, it's
> called deck enamel, used to paint concrete floors but can be used on
> wood too... both oil based and water based are available... there are
> also very nice epoxy paints, more expensive but you don't need much
> for lazy susans. Personally I'd remove those lazy susans and toss
> them into the trash.

I might go with the tiles the next time I have to line. But the paint would
be a PITA. Would you want to paint with your cats around? My little one
would be right in it. Plus to get the remains of the paper off that is
there now I would have to sand it down.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:45:44 PM4/3/12
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Recipes generally tell you how to make those adjustments. If they did not I
would look it up online. I did look up how to line the lazy Susan and
didn't get an answer. That is why I asked here. Oh and I pretty much gave
up baking years ago.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:46:57 PM4/3/12
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jmcquown wrote:
> "Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
> news:4f79cfdd$0$73614$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>> On 4/2/2012 8:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I would love to get rid of them but I can't afford to redo my
>>> kitchen. I don't even have room to store paper products in the
>>> kitchen. They are in the garage. I do have a small pullout
>>> cabinet to store things like plastic
>>> bags. I freaking hate those pullouts too but all of my lower
>>> cabinets are
>>> those. Things fall behind just as they fly off the shelves of the
>>> lazy Susan. I just ordered some new reaching tools. It is hard
>>> for me to get back there.
>>
>>
>> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the damned
>> thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan things in my
>> parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had them in one of my
>> kitchens once, and I've not experienced anything flying off. Falling
>> over, yes, but never falling off or flying anywhere.
>
>
> Exactly! I had one lazy susan cabinet in a kitchen years ago. I
> stored jars of spices and bottles of things like worcestershire,
> teriyaki and other bottled sauces there. I certainly didn't spin it
> so hard things flew off to the back of the cabinet!
>
> I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy
> susan on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and
> spices :) And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the
> aforementioned bottles. Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I
> don't spin them like roulette wheels.

When shut the doors stick. You have to push pretty hard to get it to move
at all. So the things fly off. My doors are attached to the front. You
don't just open the door or doors and spin it. You have to push the doors
in.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:47:36 PM4/3/12
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 03/04/2012 12:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
> off to the back of the cabinet!
>>
>> I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy
>> susan on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and
>> spices :) And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the
>> aforementioned bottles. Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I
>> don't spin them like roulette wheels.
>>
>>
>
> My parents had one and we had one for a while. I sure didn't have to
> move it hard to make things fall over or to fall off the shelf. Many
> items were lost in the far corner.

Yes! Thank YOU! I have to keep a reaching tool near the cabinets for this
reason.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:49:25 PM4/3/12
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jmcquown wrote:
> "Pennyaline" <norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
> news:4f7a633c$0$52252$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Pennyaline"<norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit> wrote in message
>>> news:4f7a4dbd$0$9077$815e...@news.qwest.net...
>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the
>>>>> shelf.
>>>>
>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>
>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if you
>>> stack
>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off.
> (snippage)
>
> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
> designed for stacking canned goods.
>
> Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are
> built-in lazy susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one
> instance where I'd like to see a photograph of all these (opened)
> lazy-susan style cabinets.

No. Two are lazy Susans and three are pullouts. And I'm not gonna take a
pic for you. I did look online to try to find one like mine. I did not. I
am thinking they realized this was a bad design and quit making them this
way.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:50:34 PM4/3/12
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I have two of those too in my spice cabinet. But that is not how my lazy
Susan cabinet looks.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:51:13 PM4/3/12
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Pennyaline wrote:
> On 4/3/2012 8:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "The Cook"<susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ptmln7dmgm3o4om18...@4ax.com...
>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>> can't access all of it at once.
>
>
> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
> outside of a circle is its circumference.

I won't remember that but thanks.


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Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:51:44 PM4/3/12
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Janet wrote:
> In article <4f7b38eb$0$52267$815e...@news.qwest.net>,
> norweg...@beatifulplummage.innit says...
>>
>
>>>>>>>> "Julie Bove"<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>>
>>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>>> can't access all of it at once.
>>
>>
>> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
>> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
>> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
>> outside of a circle is its circumference.
>
> More hard words.
>
> Bisect.. an insect that lost four legs
> Arc.. get that welder out and fix the lazy susan
> Degree..not available for graduating ninth grade.

I got A's in math. We just never studied that stuff.


Julie Bove

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Apr 3, 2012, 5:52:14 PM4/3/12
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George M. Middius wrote:
> Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
>> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
>> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
>> outside of a circle is its circumference.
>
> Nice use of 4th-grade terminology.
>
> For julie: A "straight line" is like a piece of string pulled tight.
> "Bisect" means to cut in two pieces of the same size. The "center" is
> the middle. "180 degrees" means halfway around a circle, like from 12
> o'clock to 6 o'clock on a round clock. (A clock is a device we use to
> keep track of time.) An "arc" is a curve, like in the road or around
> the edge of a baseball. Don't even worry about "circumference".
>
> You're welcome.

Thanks.


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