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col...@gmail.com
May 30, 2019, 3:01:34 PM5/30/19
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Julie Bove
May 30, 2019, 8:54:16 PM5/30/19
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<col...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25655639/
Of course they're bad!
Jeßus
May 31, 2019, 4:45:32 AM5/31/19
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On Thu, 30 May 2019 12:01:24 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25655639/
yes, theyre bad. Very old news. For most people, simply eating
correctly will remove any need for them anyway.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25655639/
yes, theyre bad. Very old news. For most people, simply eating
correctly will remove any need for them anyway.
Bruce
May 31, 2019, 4:57:49 AM5/31/19
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aren't able to change their lifestyle. So, without proof of the
contrary, it's better to medicate the patient than to expect them to
change their habits.
Ophelia
May 31, 2019, 6:08:39 AM5/31/19
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"Bruce" wrote in message news:50r1fedhrsn29gha5...@4ax.com...
Very good comment, thanks!
col...@gmail.com
May 31, 2019, 6:45:44 AM5/31/19
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Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1c and blood sugar go down but it can still cause myopathy.
Gary
May 31, 2019, 6:50:54 AM5/31/19
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Most ppl do resist change in any form. The saying, "Hard to teach
old dogs new tricks," does have some validity in real life.
I do know of one woman's doctor that tricked her into quitting
smoking. After a check-up including chest x-ray, he mentioned
seeing a spot on her lung. Scared the heck out of her and she
quit smoking.
Next year another annual checkup and she asked about that spot on
her lung. He told her something like, "All is ok, funny how some
dust can get on an x-ray sometimes..."
Something like that. She told me about it. He scared her into
quitting but it worked. Doctors won't do that now as all have to
beware of lawsuits. These days, they will run so many extra tests
for any little thing just to have their back covered and not be
sued for something they might of missed.
Gary
May 31, 2019, 8:56:34 AM5/31/19
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Pamela wrote:
WTH were we talking about?
>
> On 11:45 31 May 2019, col...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1c and blood sugar go down
> > but it can still cause myopathy.
>
> Some people get serious memory loss too.
> On 11:45 31 May 2019, col...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1c and blood sugar go down
> > but it can still cause myopathy.
>
WTH were we talking about?
sockmo...@comcast.net
May 31, 2019, 11:26:16 AM5/31/19
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Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
Denise in NH
Denise in NH
Ophelia
May 31, 2019, 1:05:24 PM5/31/19
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Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
Denise in NH
A friend of mine has that problem and the docs have stopped her taking
them for more tests. Now my husband has started taking them and guess
what?? Yes he has started with painful legs too. He has simply stopped
taking them!
penm...@aol.com
May 31, 2019, 2:23:17 PM5/31/19
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On 31 May 2019 Gary wrote:
>Pamela wrote:
>>coltwvu wrote:
>> >
>> > Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1 and blood sugar go down
>Pamela wrote:
>>coltwvu wrote:
>> >
>> > Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1 and blood sugar go down
>> > but it can still cause myopathy.
>>
>> Some people get serious memory loss too.
>
>WTH were we talking about?
A1... steak sauce?
>>
>> Some people get serious memory loss too.
>
>WTH were we talking about?
Ed Pawlowski
May 31, 2019, 2:24:38 PM5/31/19
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On 5/31/2019 11:26 AM, sockmo...@comcast.net wrote:
> Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
>
> Denise in NH
>
Same here. Tried them twice and never again.
> Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
>
> Denise in NH
>
Dave Smith
May 31, 2019, 2:36:12 PM5/31/19
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On 2019-05-31 11:26 a.m., sockmo...@comcast.net wrote:
> Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
>
>
A couple years ago I head some pretty severe pain in my thigh that made
> Statins gave me excruciating bone pain in my legs.
>
>
it very painful to bend down to pick things up or tie my shoes. Later on
the pain migrated to my calf. It turned out to be associated with an
arthritis flair in my knee.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
May 31, 2019, 4:53:48 PM5/31/19
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with my doctor and he said that is not surprising as it tends to suck
potassium out of the body. I asked him if I could take otc potassium tablets
and he said that was a great idea and to through some magnesium tablets into
the mix as well. Both additions took care of that muscle cramping problem.
Bruce
May 31, 2019, 5:14:58 PM5/31/19
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Thomas
May 31, 2019, 5:43:10 PM5/31/19
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Do not take if you abuse crystal palace.
I drink alchohol and should not take any statins.
I drink alchohol and should not take any statins.
col...@gmail.com
May 31, 2019, 5:55:25 PM5/31/19
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I've never taken a statin and never been asked to by my dr.
Jeßus
Jun 1, 2019, 2:28:02 AM6/1/19
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On Fri, 31 May 2019 18:57:44 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
That 80% figure doesn't surprise me. At one stage my doctor wanted to
put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite simple
really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
themselves, much like with obesity.
wrote:
put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite simple
really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
themselves, much like with obesity.
Julie Bove
Jun 1, 2019, 3:02:16 AM6/1/19
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"Bruce" <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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terms of cholesterol.
Julie Bove
Jun 1, 2019, 3:08:21 AM6/1/19
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"Pamela" <pamela...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Pravastatin is the only statin that makes A1c and blood sugar go down
>> but it can still cause myopathy.
>
>> but it can still cause myopathy.
>
> Some people get serious memory loss too.
I had horrid problems. Made me feel brain dead, gave me bad muscle pain. I
tried to throw something with my left arm. It locked up. Pain shot through
the upper arm and I just couldn't move it. After that, it was weak and
pretty much unusable for weeks after stopping the statin. My eyes hurt and
were dry. Skin was dry and peeling. The skin on my lips just peeled of in
sheets. Never again!
Bruce
Jun 1, 2019, 4:28:31 AM6/1/19
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it's lifestyle related.
col...@gmail.com
Jun 1, 2019, 5:30:44 AM6/1/19
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I take 500 mg of otc niacin and never have flushing.
Gary
Jun 1, 2019, 5:59:48 AM6/1/19
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No flushing? Your bathroom(s) are probably a serious health
hazard by now.
hazard by now.
Bruce
Jun 1, 2019, 6:34:19 AM6/1/19
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col...@gmail.com
Jun 1, 2019, 6:45:57 AM6/1/19
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In May my LDL was 77, trigs 50 and HDL 65
Gary
Jun 1, 2019, 10:54:38 AM6/1/19
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safe.
Julie Bove
Jun 1, 2019, 3:24:32 PM6/1/19
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Dave Smith
Jun 2, 2019, 11:30:36 AM6/2/19
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On 2019-06-01 2:27 a.m., Je�us wrote:
>> According to a very good (American) doctor I once had, 80% of people
>> aren't able to change their lifestyle. So, without proof of the
>> contrary, it's better to medicate the patient than to expect them to
>> change their habits.
>
> That 80% figure doesn't surprise me. At one stage my doctor wanted to
> put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
> evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
> statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite simple
> really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
> themselves, much like with obesity.
I keep hearing about the hereditary link to coronary disease. The body
>> According to a very good (American) doctor I once had, 80% of people
>> aren't able to change their lifestyle. So, without proof of the
>> contrary, it's better to medicate the patient than to expect them to
>> change their habits.
>
> That 80% figure doesn't surprise me. At one stage my doctor wanted to
> put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
> evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
> statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite simple
> really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
> themselves, much like with obesity.
makes its own cholesterol,
>
Julie Bove
Jun 2, 2019, 7:11:50 PM6/2/19
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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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not a factor in heart attacks. Artery plaque is. He said chelation therapy
along with vitamin D3 and K2 will reduce plaque by half.
Dave Smith
Jun 2, 2019, 7:30:18 PM6/2/19
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Hank Rogers
Jun 2, 2019, 7:53:02 PM6/2/19
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-06-02 7:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:rYRIE.41338$NT5....@fx47.iad...
> On 2019-06-02 7:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:rYRIE.41338$NT5....@fx47.iad...
>>> On 2019-06-01 2:27 a.m., Je�us wrote:
>
>>>> That 80% figure doesn't surprise me. At one stage my doctor
>>>> wanted to
>>>> put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
>>>> evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
>>>> statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite
>>>> simple
>>>> really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
>>>> themselves, much like with obesity.
>>>
>>> I keep hearing about the hereditary link to coronary disease.Â
>
>>>> That 80% figure doesn't surprise me. At one stage my doctor
>>>> wanted to
>>>> put me on statins, I said no way due to mainly personal anecdotal
>>>> evidence that people's health tends to decline after some years on
>>>> statins. I corrected my cholesterol level through diet, quite
>>>> simple
>>>> really. But yes, many people are mentally weak and can't control
>>>> themselves, much like with obesity.
>>>
>>> The body makes its own cholesterol,
>>
>> Yes. There was a Dr. on Coast to Coast last night who said
>> cholesterol is not a factor in heart attacks. Artery plaque is. He
>> said chelation therapy along with vitamin D3 and K2 will reduce
>> plaque by half.
>
>
> Okay. I'll bite. Why can't your take vitamin D3 and K2?
Gluten ? or some other food sensitivity/allergy? I'm sure it's
>>
>> Yes. There was a Dr. on Coast to Coast last night who said
>> cholesterol is not a factor in heart attacks. Artery plaque is. He
>> said chelation therapy along with vitamin D3 and K2 will reduce
>> plaque by half.
>
>
> Okay. I'll bite. Why can't your take vitamin D3 and K2?
almost poisonous to her. Most everything is.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jun 2, 2019, 8:19:50 PM6/2/19
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Hank Rogers
Jun 2, 2019, 8:37:21 PM6/2/19
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graham
Jun 2, 2019, 8:52:16 PM6/2/19
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Cindy Hamilton
Jun 3, 2019, 6:14:32 AM6/3/19
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Cindy Hamilton
Julie Bove
Jun 3, 2019, 7:54:40 AM6/3/19
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I do take them!
Julie Bove
Jun 3, 2019, 7:56:54 AM6/3/19
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hospital. Blood is removed, cleaned of something...not sure what...and put
back in.
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