The elusive Costco bag

[Nancy Young]

I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
it for sale. It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
for a while. There it was today, a pile of them. $6.99.

That is one big Costco sized cooler bag. Very handy. Even
if I don't have cold food, it's handy to carry a bunch of
stuff into the house at once after a Costco run. It'll come
in handy on the holidays, etc. too.

nancy

[Janet Bostwick]

I know about Costco carry bags, but I haven't ever heard of Costco
cooler bags. Describe please.
Janet US

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 2:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:43:49 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:

>> That is one big Costco sized cooler bag. Very handy. Even
>> if I don't have cold food, it's handy to carry a bunch of
>> stuff into the house at once after a Costco run. It'll come
>> in handy on the holidays, etc. too.

> I know about Costco carry bags, but I haven't ever heard of Costco
> cooler bags. Describe please.

Oh, so I didn't get the bag I've read about. Oh, well, it's
a great cooler bag. It's a big lined and insulated canvas bag,
26" wide by 17 high. Keeps food frozen for up to 5 hours.

http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg

It folds flat so it can live in my car trunk.

nancy

[Nunya Bidnits]

Don't expect it to work as well as a styrofoam or hard plastic cooler. There
really isnt' that much insulation compared to, say, a pizza bag. Whatever
goes in needs to be good and cold (or hot) and then it will hold temp fairly
well up to a point.

It is handy when grocery shopping where you might go to more than one store.
You can put the cold and frozen stuff in it and it will stay cool pretty
well as long as your car isn't in the sun for too long.

MartyB

[Brooklyn1]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
wrote:

On hot days it's best to let that bag live inside your car's air
conditioned passenger compartment... or you'll be coming from the
store with ice cold/frozen perishables only to find your insulated bag
at an oven-like temperature (those bags hold heat as well as cold). If
you're going to be shopping any length of time over ten minutes your
entire car will be like an oven and so will that insulated bag.
Happened to me just a week ago when I went to my doctor and then five
minutes later went to shop on the way home, the bag was stiffling from
waiting over an hour for me at the doctor (was the hottest day of the
year). I ended up not using the bag and decided instead to rely on my
car's A/C. Next time I'll bring the bag into the air conditioned
store with me, maybe stuff it into the ice cream freezer while I shop.
Anyways on hot days those insulated bags can do more harm than good
unless you're bringing home a hot meal.

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 2:59 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:

> Nancy Young <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:

>> That is one big Costco sized cooler bag. Very handy. Even
>> if I don't have cold food, it's handy to carry a bunch of
>> stuff into the house at once after a Costco run. It'll come
>> in handy on the holidays, etc. too.

> Don't expect it to work as well as a styrofoam or hard plastic cooler. There
> really isnt' that much insulation compared to, say, a pizza bag. Whatever
> goes in needs to be good and cold (or hot) and then it will hold temp fairly
> well up to a point.

I have a much thinner cooler bag that really surprised me in
the past with how cold it kept things, so I feel that this heavy
one will do a good job, but I really don't expect to store ice or
frozen food in it for any great length of time.

It does rather remind me of a pizza bag.

> It is handy when grocery shopping where you might go to more than one store.
> You can put the cold and frozen stuff in it and it will stay cool pretty
> well as long as your car isn't in the sun for too long.

I think it will be great to hold things for tailgating and transporting
foods to somewhere that is reasonably close. The capacity is really
what I like compared to other cooler bags I've had. Ones for which I
spent a whole lot more than $7.

nancy

[Julie Bove]

"Nancy Young" <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote in message
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I have some Costco bags but have never seen a cooler bag. I am headed there
soon. Will look.

[Julie Bove]

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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On days like that I fill the bags with blue ice and try to make it home
within an hour.

[Chemo]

On Jul 27, 1:14 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <rjynlynos...@vverizon.net> wrote in message

We use one of these http://www.norchillcoolers.com/ We have two we use
on our sailboat and they'll keep food cold the entire weekend. so
taking one to Costco and other stores when it's hot out ensures the
food will be cold by the time we get home.

[Brooklyn1]

The physical thickness of those bags is not nearly so important as of
what material(s) they're made... space blankets are very thin yet are
great insulaters. I have several of those bags acquired over the
years, of different materials, the newer thinner ones insulate better.
Also those bags tend to keep hot foods hot better than they keep cold
foods cold... or maybe it's because folks don't mind tepid bbq chicken
as much as they mind soupy ice cream. When I remember I put a couple
of those blue ice thingies in my bags before leaving home to shop.

[Janet Bostwick]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
wrote:

Hey, neat. I'll keep my eyes open for that one. Currently, we have a
zippered bag with waterproof lining It's huge. I put 4 of the 8 inch
square blue ice thingys in the bottom and take the bag into the store
with us. We fill it with cold and frozen stuff as we shop, then just
put the bag up on the checkout counter and let the checker ring up the
contents. That way everything stays cold.
Janet US

[Janet Bostwick]

Costco has no problem with bringing your cold carrier into the store.
They just check to make sure that it isn't a pet carrier. Apparently
shoppers have been trying to bring their animals inside the store on
hot days.
Janet US

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 4:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote

>> I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
>> it for sale. It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
>> for a while. There it was today, a pile of them. $6.99.

> I have some Costco bags but have never seen a cooler bag. I am headed there
> soon. Will look.

Now I know what I got wasn't the aforementioned bags, but
this will still hold quite a few items, saving a trip or two
from the car anyway. Keeping the meat, etc at a cooll temp
is a bonus.

nancy

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 3:25 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
> wrote:

>> http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg
>>
>> It folds flat so it can live in my car trunk.

> On hot days it's best to let that bag live inside your car's air
> conditioned passenger compartment... or you'll be coming from the
> store with ice cold/frozen perishables only to find your insulated bag
> at an oven-like temperature

You're absolutely right.

>(those bags hold heat as well as cold). If
> you're going to be shopping any length of time over ten minutes your
> entire car will be like an oven and so will that insulated bag.
> Happened to me just a week ago when I went to my doctor and then five
> minutes later went to shop on the way home, the bag was stiffling from
> waiting over an hour for me at the doctor (was the hottest day of the
> year). I ended up not using the bag and decided instead to rely on my
> car's A/C. Next time I'll bring the bag into the air conditioned
> store with me, maybe stuff it into the ice cream freezer while I shop.
> Anyways on hot days those insulated bags can do more harm than good
> unless you're bringing home a hot meal.

Not too often. Point taken, thanks.

nancy

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 5:48 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Oh, so I didn't get the bag I've read about. Oh, well, it's
>> a great cooler bag. It's a big lined and insulated canvas bag,
>> 26" wide by 17 high. Keeps food frozen for up to 5 hours.
>>
>> http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg
>>
>> It folds flat so it can live in my car trunk.
>

> Mines different. I must have got the $3 ones that are some sort of
> vinyl with a quilted foil-ish lining.

I've seen those type of bags.

This is the label: http://i46.tinypic.com/nocbgo.jpg

It's got some type of foam insulation with a white
plastic-y lining.

nancy

[gregz]

Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>

>> On 7/27/2012 2:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:43:49 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> That is one big Costco sized cooler bag. Very handy. Even
>>>> if I don't have cold food, it's handy to carry a bunch of
>>>> stuff into the house at once after a Costco run. It'll come
>>>> in handy on the holidays, etc. too.
>>
>>> I know about Costco carry bags, but I haven't ever heard of Costco
>>> cooler bags. Describe please.
>>

>> Oh, so I didn't get the bag I've read about. Oh, well, it's
>> a great cooler bag. It's a big lined and insulated canvas bag,
>> 26" wide by 17 high. Keeps food frozen for up to 5 hours.
>>
>> http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg
>>
>> It folds flat so it can live in my car trunk.
>
> Mines different. I must have got the $3 ones that are some sort of
> vinyl with a quilted foil-ish lining.
>

> -sw

Silvered foil is for reflecting heat, so a cold bag should have foil on the
outside.

Greg

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 7:02 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:22:07 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I've seen those type of bags.
>

> Since you showed me yours I'll show you mine.
>
> http://i47.tinypic.com/302b247.jpg
>
> It measures about 26" x 9" x 18" There's Velcro on the front (those
> three white strips, and also on the underside of the lid flap. The
> Velcro doesn't exactly shut it up tight unless you fill it exactly to
> it's intended volume dimensions. Looks like yours is more 2
> dimensional to solve that problem.

That's a lot like my other insulated bag, and I never have
stuff in it where the Velcro lines up efficiently.

This bag has a zipper top, no Velcro. It opens out to a
flat, say, 18 X 8 rectangular bottom.

nancy

[Jeanine Alyse]

On Jul 27, 10:43 am, Nancy Young <rjynlynos...@vverizon.net> wrote:
> I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
> it for sale.  It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
> for a while.  There it was today, a pile of them.  $6.99.

Same size and quality cooler bag at TJ's and each are two dollars less
as well. I keep five of them in my SUV for grocery shopping or
whatever else a bag comes handy to.
...Picky

[gloria p]

Any of those bags, coolers, etc. work a lot better if you remember to
put in a couple of those frozen blue ice thingies or even a disposable
bottle of water or two, frozen solid.

I don't always remember, but when I do, it really helps keep the
contents of the bag colder.

gloria p

[Jeanine Alyse]

On Jul 27, 5:28 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:

> Sounds like the same dimensions, except they fixed
> the closure problem.  My bags are 3-4 years old.
As mentioned up-thread, I also use the blue freezer flats and/or
plastic bottles of frozen water in them if what I'm packing needs more
than an hour's drive to destination. I've been using four of my five
Trader Joe's bags for more than five years and they are still as good
as when new.
...Picky

[Boron Elgar]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:18:22 -0600, gloria p <gpue...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>Any of those bags, coolers, etc. work a lot better if you remember to
>put in a couple of those frozen blue ice thingies or even a disposable
>bottle of water or two, frozen solid.
>
>I don't always remember, but when I do, it really helps keep the
>contents of the bag colder.
>
>gloria p

We bop all over the area doing errands or engaging in mini-adventures
each weekend and unless it is really cold outside, we always have
coolers with blue ice in the car.

These trips invariably turn into food runs of some sort - we'll find a
new bakery or hit a farm stand or an ethnic grocery somewhere and all
the food booty arrives home perfectly with the aid of the coolers.

A couple of weeks ago we went to a casino on Pennsylvania and stopped
to pick up sausage, cheese and rendered lard at the place linked
below. Oh and a coconut custard pie. To-die-for.

http://www.mountainfolk.com/dietrich.asp

In fact, we just got home from an extensive road trip that
incorporated 5 states and two countries and had we had coolers with us
the whole way. Most hotels have fridges with freezers or at minimum,
ice machines, and there is always some way to keep the coolers
stocked.

I am always looking for unusual artisan breads or locally made
chocolates or foodstuffs and the former freeze well, then get popped
into the cooler for the rest of the trip and the latter two...well,
the latter two often get eaten along the way, but at least don't melt
or spoil in a hot car before the get downed.

This trip we hit the bakery that was my neighborhood go-to when I was
a kid. They are not the same, sadly, but we got a corn rye and a
pumpernickel and some nifty marble cake and seven layer cake. A few
days later we wound up spending the rest of our Canadian money on
many giant Toblerone bars at duty free before we crossed back over to
the US. Oh, and we found a pecan pie in Pennsylvania at the Bingham
Family Restaurant. Oh man, is that thing good. We had a piece while
listening to Matt Lauer and Bob Costa drone on interminably last
night.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g52931-d820693-Reviews-Bingham_s_Family_Restaurant-Kingsley_Pennsylvania.html

So you see, coolers and ice packs rule.

Boron

[Kalmia]

On Friday, July 27, 2012 2:56:30 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
Keeps food frozen for up to 5 hours.
>

Have you tested this in your hot trunk? Or is this just their claim?

[sf]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:24:35 -0600, Janet Bostwick
<nos...@cableone.net> wrote:

> I know about Costco carry bags, but I haven't ever heard of Costco
> cooler bags. Describe please.

I didn't know Costco had reusable bags with a Costco symbol on them,
but I see they come in bundles with an insulated bag.
http://www.ilovecostco.com/reusable-grocery-bag I've never seen them
where I shop, so I wonder what part of the store they are hiding in.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

[Janet Bostwick]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:48:12 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:24:35 -0600, Janet Bostwick
><nos...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> I know about Costco carry bags, but I haven't ever heard of Costco
>> cooler bags. Describe please.
>
>I didn't know Costco had reusable bags with a Costco symbol on them,
>but I see they come in bundles with an insulated bag.
>http://www.ilovecostco.com/reusable-grocery-bag I've never seen them
>where I shop, so I wonder what part of the store they are hiding in.

In my store, the uninsulated ones are carried around the laundry
soaps, garbage bag,bathroom tissue area.

It seems an email to customer service at Costco.com is in order. They
have been responsive to me in the past.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

"Janet Bostwick" wrote in message
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>On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:56:30 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
>wrote:
>
>>On 7/27/2012 2:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:43:49 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>Oh, so I didn't get the bag I've read about. Oh, well, it's
>>a great cooler bag. It's a big lined and insulated canvas bag,
>>26" wide by 17 high. Keeps food frozen for up to 5 hours.
>>
>>http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg
>>
>>It folds flat so it can live in my car trunk.
>>
>>nancy
>

Costco has no problem with bringing your cold carrier into the store.
They just check to make sure that it isn't a pet carrier. Apparently
shoppers have been trying to bring their animals inside the store on
hot days.
Janet US

====================

I'll never understand why people take pets with them to the store. I've
only ever been in one Costco and the place was huge. It's not the type of
place where you're in and out in a minute.

Jill

[sf]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:38:18 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> I'll never understand why people take pets with them to the store. I've
> only ever been in one Costco and the place was huge. It's not the type of
> place where you're in and out in a minute.

There's a whole group of pompous people who like to carry small dogs
in large "bags". The ones I know could easily be called narcissistic
- but are too old to get the double takes they got when younger, so
they use the dogs as a way to attract attention to themselves.

[Cheryl]

On 7/27/2012 1:43 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
> it for sale. It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
> for a while. There it was today, a pile of them. $6.99.
>

> That is one big Costco sized cooler bag. Very handy. Even
> if I don't have cold food, it's handy to carry a bunch of
> stuff into the house at once after a Costco run. It'll come
> in handy on the holidays, etc. too.

ALDI has big ones, too, and I use it for my Giant shopping. But the ALDI
bag was way cheaper than $6.99, I think no more than $3.99.

[Cheri]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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You know, there could be a lot of truth in that. Not the "pompous people"
part because we know that's true, but the "attracting attention to
themselves" using Fido."

Cheri

[Nancy Young]

On 7/27/2012 4:47 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> Costco has no problem with bringing your cold carrier into the store.
> They just check to make sure that it isn't a pet carrier. Apparently
> shoppers have been trying to bring their animals inside the store on
> hot days.

I wouldn't think of bringing an animal into a store that sells
food. Or any other store aside from a pet store, for that matter.

I would worry/be concerned/whatever that they wouldn't know I
brought my own bag in with me. Seems like a good way to sneak
out a free bag.

nancy

[Janet Bostwick]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:43:47 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
snip

>I would worry/be concerned/whatever that they wouldn't know I
>brought my own bag in with me. Seems like a good way to sneak
>out a free bag.
>
>nancy

Wouldn't that be true of any other grocery store that sold their own
bags and had them displayed throughout the store?
Janet US

[sf]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:43:49 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:

> I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
> it for sale. It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
> for a while. There it was today, a pile of them. $6.99.

I finally remembered to ask about those bags when I went to Costco a
couple of days ago (out of sight, out of mind). The ones that store
stocks when they have them (which isn't very often with years in
between) sound cheap and ugly. The person I spoke to said they cost
less than $6.99... I think he said $1.99. They were supposedly some
sort of stiff plastic, so I don't care that they weren't in stock. I
have a couple of heavy cloth Trader Joe's bags now. TJ's even has
what resembles a tall backpack on wheels for $12+. I don't know what
they're called... is it a "granny cart"?

[Julie Bove]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

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The Costco bags are green with a print. Not necessarily ugly but not pretty
either. They are plastic. Very sturdy. Have had mine for years. The only
problem is that they are so huge that when filled, they are hard to lift.
Unless perhaps you filled them with chips or pillows. Can't remember how
many came in the set but I think it was 2.

They seem to be made by the same place that made the Winco bags. And one of
the ones that I have from them is also very huge but not as huge as the
Coscto bag. Those came as a set of two with a huge and a smaller one that
is really bigger than your normal shopping bag. They are also the same
shade of green so I once accidentally grabbed the Target bag when I went to
Winco.

My Trader Joe's bag is very old. Red plastic. Very sturdy. I much prefer
the plastic bags because I can use cleaner on them or hose them down in the
sink with hot water and soap.

I do have a sturdy fabric bag from Target that the cashiers seem to hate,
perhaps because it doesn't fit well on their bag holders. But it does wash
well in the washing machine. The other fabric bags I have, do *not* wash
well and tend to fall apart when you try to wash them. I will not buy those
any more.

I am on the lookout now for nice, sturdy plastic bags that are generic and
not attached to any store. I have a few. Would like to get a few more and
then I'll ditch most all of the fabric bags that I have. Exceptions would
be the large Toys R Us bag and the large Value Village bags since those
never hold any food and likely wouldn't need to be washed for a while.

[Michael OConnor]

I belong to Sam's Club instead of Costco, but I bought one of those
insulated bags when I was there. As I don't drive I had to wait 15-20
minutes for a taxi and the bag kept the frozen items frozen when I got
home. The only problem was the bags are not terribly durable (I
wouldn't put more than about ten pounds of cold or frozen foods inside
as the handles are flimsy) so I think the next time I go to Sam's I
will get a second bag. As I remember they cost about three dollars.
and were nylon with foil lining.

http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/samsclub/0084487500035_A?$img_size_300x300$

[Julie Bove]

"Michael OConnor" <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote in message
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The Costco bags I have are not insulated. They're just for putting stuff
in.

[Nancy Young]

On 9/12/2012 2:09 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:43:49 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd read about it here over the years, but I've never seen
>> it for sale. It must be my week for picking up stuff I wanted
>> for a while. There it was today, a pile of them. $6.99.
>
> I finally remembered to ask about those bags when I went to Costco a
> couple of days ago (out of sight, out of mind).

I haven't seen them since, and I only saw them at one location I
don't usually visit. They happened to have them on the aisle, for
all I know all the stores have them somewhere I don't look.

> The ones that store
> stocks when they have them (which isn't very often with years in
> between) sound cheap and ugly. The person I spoke to said they cost
> less than $6.99... I think he said $1.99.

This is different. It's canvas and it's a cooler bag. A very large
cooler bag, the picture I posted makes it look like a normal size
thing. http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg

> They were supposedly some
> sort of stiff plastic, so I don't care that they weren't in stock. I
> have a couple of heavy cloth Trader Joe's bags now. TJ's even has
> what resembles a tall backpack on wheels for $12+. I don't know what
> they're called... is it a "granny cart"?

Sounds like one of those tripping hazards people drag around.

nancy

[sf]

On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:07:13 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
>
> This is different. It's canvas and it's a cooler bag. A very large
> cooler bag, the picture I posted makes it look like a normal size
> thing. http://i49.tinypic.com/dnowwi.jpg

Oh, I either missed it or didn't remember it was a cooler bag. It
looks like the TJ's bags I have except they are black instead of blue
and they don't have a zipper or liner.

>
> > They were supposedly some
> > sort of stiff plastic, so I don't care that they weren't in stock. I
> > have a couple of heavy cloth Trader Joe's bags now. TJ's even has
> > what resembles a tall backpack on wheels for $12+. I don't know what
> > they're called... is it a "granny cart"?
>
> Sounds like one of those tripping hazards people drag around.

Huh. Nobody trips over them around here. I'm looking at them and
thinking I'll probably need one someday. I have a car that I'll drive
just a few blocks if I think I'm going to have that much "stuff" to
lug home - but someday driving won't be an option. I've watched too
many people get old to think otherwise.

[ImStillMags]

On Sep 12, 6:03 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:07:13 -0400, Nancy Young
>

You would be better off walking and using a granny cart anyway if your
store is only a few blocks.
Exercise is a good thing ;-)

[Nancy Young]

On 9/12/2012 9:03 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:07:13 -0400, Nancy Young

>>> what resembles a tall backpack on wheels for $12+. I don't know what
>>> they're called... is it a "granny cart"?
>>
>> Sounds like one of those tripping hazards people drag around.


> Huh. Nobody trips over them around here.

Then we're talking about different things. People go to places
like the flower show and drag a backpack on wheels a couple of feet
behind them.

I'd expect something like that in an airport, or wouldn't mind
so much if it's not so crowded you can see it. Unfortunately,
oblivious people seem to be attracted to dragging them around.

>
> I'm looking at them and
> thinking I'll probably need one someday. I have a car that I'll drive
> just a few blocks if I think I'm going to have that much "stuff" to
> lug home - but someday driving won't be an option. I've watched too
> many people get old to think otherwise.

Those tall ones that also serve as a walker and/or a seat look
very useful. I'm sure they go for way more than 12 bucks, though.

nancy