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DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 12:24:16 AM10/14/14
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Hello,
I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years ago. It weighs
ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off if the weight doesn't change
after 1 minute. This is a pain because it also loses its zero (tare) value.
Sometimes I've had to rush back to it to put my finger on it to keep it going
for another minute.
Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped wouldn't have
that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30 seconds instead of 1
minute. It even relies on this "feature" to turn off at all because it doesn't
even have an off button.
Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in China (the
brand of the new one is Propert).
Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
itself off? Thanks.
I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years ago. It weighs
ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off if the weight doesn't change
after 1 minute. This is a pain because it also loses its zero (tare) value.
Sometimes I've had to rush back to it to put my finger on it to keep it going
for another minute.
Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped wouldn't have
that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30 seconds instead of 1
minute. It even relies on this "feature" to turn off at all because it doesn't
even have an off button.
Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in China (the
brand of the new one is Propert).
Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
itself off? Thanks.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Oct 14, 2014, 12:56:55 AM10/14/14
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On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:24:16 PM UTC-5, DavidW wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years ago. It weighs
>
> ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off if the weight doesn't change
> after 1 minute. This is a pain because it also loses its zero (tare) value.
> Sometimes I've had to rush back to it to put my finger on it to keep it going
> for another minute.
>
> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped wouldn't have
> that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30 seconds instead of 1
> minute. It even relies on this "feature" to turn off at all because it doesn't
> even have an off button.
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years ago. It weighs
>
> ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off if the weight doesn't change
> after 1 minute. This is a pain because it also loses its zero (tare) value.
> Sometimes I've had to rush back to it to put my finger on it to keep it going
> for another minute.
>
> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped wouldn't have
> that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30 seconds instead of 1
> minute. It even relies on this "feature" to turn off at all because it doesn't
> even have an off button.
>
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
>
>
The problem you mention is exactly why I went with the standard spring loaded kitchen scale that has been used in kitchens for ages and ages. No batteries, no turning itself off, just plain old reliability. And mine has been dead-on accurate since the day I bought it.
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
>
>
sf
Oct 14, 2014, 1:05:25 AM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
Mine is around $30 and it gives me plenty of time although I'd rather
have less. Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
This is what I have.
<http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+scales>
No idea how to change the batteries, I've had it for at least 4 years
and they are still going great so I'll cross that bridge when I come
to it.
--
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wrote:
have less. Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
This is what I have.
<http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+scales>
No idea how to change the batteries, I've had it for at least 4 years
and they are still going great so I'll cross that bridge when I come
to it.
--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
Je�us
Oct 14, 2014, 1:23:26 AM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
wrote:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10Kg-x-0-1g-Digital-Electronic-Jewelry-Balance-Scale-LB-g-Gold-Lab-Weigh-457A-AU-/121444666990?pt=AU_Business_Industrial_Medical_Scientific_Equipment2&hash=item1c46aa8e6e
If it turns itself off, then I have no idea how long it takes because
I've never seen it happen. Note you need to find an american version
of this on ebay due to power differences (uses batteries or a power
pack).
DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 5:02:02 AM10/14/14
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sf wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years
>> ago. It weighs ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off
>> if the weight doesn't change after 1 minute. This is a pain because
>> it also loses its zero (tare) value. Sometimes I've had to rush back
>> to it to put my finger on it to keep it going for another minute.
>>
>> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped
>> wouldn't have that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30
>> seconds instead of 1 minute. It even relies on this "feature" to
>> turn off at all because it doesn't even have an off button.
>>
>> Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in
>> China (the brand of the new one is Propert).
>>
>> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online
>> that only turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose
>> its position if it turns itself off? Thanks.
>>
>
> Mine is around $30 and it gives me plenty of time although I'd rather
> have less.
Less? Why? Can't you just turn it off when you want?
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years
>> ago. It weighs ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off
>> if the weight doesn't change after 1 minute. This is a pain because
>> it also loses its zero (tare) value. Sometimes I've had to rush back
>> to it to put my finger on it to keep it going for another minute.
>>
>> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped
>> wouldn't have that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30
>> seconds instead of 1 minute. It even relies on this "feature" to
>> turn off at all because it doesn't even have an off button.
>>
>> Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in
>> China (the brand of the new one is Propert).
>>
>> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online
>> that only turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose
>> its position if it turns itself off? Thanks.
>>
>
> Mine is around $30 and it gives me plenty of time although I'd rather
> have less.
> Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
> not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
> going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to turn my heater off. I
have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the oven off. I'm more than happy to
turn my scale off when I'm done with it, and not before. Why should my scale
decide when to turn off, and lose the weight of the container on it in the
process?
This is undoubtedly meant to be a design "feature" to save battery life. The
manufacturer had to write additional software to note the last change in
weight, check the clock and see if it's reached the time limit since that chang
e - whatever time they think is long enough - and then turn itself off if it
has. Have the manufacturers ever cooked anything? Do they know that the cook
might be busy for a few minutes before getting back to the scale? They think
it's desirable that it operate this way. It's not, and any cook knows that. Why
don't they know that? It would actually cost them less to do it right.
DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 5:03:18 AM10/14/14
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BTW, I'm not American.
Jeßus
Oct 14, 2014, 6:21:02 AM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:03:18 +1000, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
There's cheaper sellers of the same scales on ebay than the example I
gave, I think I paid $75 from memory.
>BTW, I'm not American.
Apologies for my terrible faux pas.
wrote:
gave, I think I paid $75 from memory.
>BTW, I'm not American.
Nancy Young
Oct 14, 2014, 6:40:40 AM10/14/14
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On 10/14/2014 12:24 AM, DavidW wrote:
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
I looked for scales you could plug in, thinking it wouldn't
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
turn off to save on batteries. I came up with this one that
has an a/c adapter.
http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-3001p-black.html
nancy
John Kuthe
Oct 14, 2014, 6:42:27 AM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
wrote:
There's a little majic electronic brain in it somewhere who does
everything for, or TO you, one might say. And since there is no on/off
switch, YOU have no control! Yeah, I've noticed a lot of electronic
devices with no on/off switch. Or a "software" controlled on/off
"feature" as you say. And it waits some amount of time before turmning
it off, even after you just told it to turn off.
I just yank the power cord out of the wall! That gets it's attention!
Or pull the batteries out. IF you can, many of these disposable
electronic devices are sealed and you can't even get to the batteries!
John Kuthe...
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Janet
Oct 14, 2014, 7:13:41 AM10/14/14
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In article <543ca572$0$29944$882e...@usenet-news.net>,
n...@email.provided says...
Salter; a very old and reliable brand of scales-maker, not expensive,
long guarantee (15 years) . My Salter Aquatronic is 30 years old and
still works perfectly. Weighs in metric and imperial measures, dry and
liquid.
The ON button also operates the zero-ing function, and the scale stays
on until you press the OFF button.
Janet UK
n...@email.provided says...
long guarantee (15 years) . My Salter Aquatronic is 30 years old and
still works perfectly. Weighs in metric and imperial measures, dry and
liquid.
The ON button also operates the zero-ing function, and the scale stays
on until you press the OFF button.
Janet UK
Ed Pawlowski
Oct 14, 2014, 8:09:01 AM10/14/14
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On 10/14/2014 7:13 AM, Janet wrote:
> Salter; a very old and reliable brand of scales-maker, not expensive,
> long guarantee (15 years) . My Salter Aquatronic is 30 years old and
> still works perfectly. Weighs in metric and imperial measures, dry and
> liquid.
>
> The ON button also operates the zero-ing function, and the scale stays
> on until you press the OFF button.
>
> Janet UK
In 30 years they have probably "improved" them with a shut off
> Salter; a very old and reliable brand of scales-maker, not expensive,
> long guarantee (15 years) . My Salter Aquatronic is 30 years old and
> still works perfectly. Weighs in metric and imperial measures, dry and
> liquid.
>
> The ON button also operates the zero-ing function, and the scale stays
> on until you press the OFF button.
>
> Janet UK
John Kuthe
Oct 14, 2014, 8:13:18 AM10/14/14
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Jon Kuthe...
Janet
Oct 14, 2014, 8:14:26 AM10/14/14
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In article <M47%v.384636$zt2.2...@fx04.fr7>, rjynly...@verizon.net
says...
I use my scales frequently. There's an on switch and an off switch so
it's only ever on while being used.
Each battery lasts YEARS.
Janet UK
says...
it's only ever on while being used.
Each battery lasts YEARS.
Janet UK
Nancy Young
Oct 14, 2014, 8:36:48 AM10/14/14
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On 10/14/2014 8:14 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article <M47%v.384636$zt2.2...@fx04.fr7>, rjynly...@verizon.net
> says...
> In article <M47%v.384636$zt2.2...@fx04.fr7>, rjynly...@verizon.net
> says...
>> I looked for scales you could plug in, thinking it wouldn't
>> turn off to save on batteries. I came up with this one that
>> has an a/c adapter.
>>
>> http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-3001p-black.html
>> turn off to save on batteries. I came up with this one that
>> has an a/c adapter.
>>
>> http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-3001p-black.html
> I use my scales frequently. There's an on switch and an off switch so
> it's only ever on while being used.
>
> Each battery lasts YEARS.
Still, it seems every device now goes to sleep to save energy,
> it's only ever on while being used.
>
> Each battery lasts YEARS.
whether you want it to or not.
nancy
John Kuthe
Oct 14, 2014, 8:40:21 AM10/14/14
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waitng to screw up your next command.
That's why I unplug them if at all possible! Take the batteries out if
they are battery powered.
John Kuthe...
The Cook
Oct 14, 2014, 9:14:43 AM10/14/14
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much.
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48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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Ophelia
Oct 14, 2014, 9:53:04 AM10/14/14
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"Nancy Young" <rjynly...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:M47%v.384636$zt2.2...@fx04.fr7...
everything to hand before I start to weigh.
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Nancy Young
Oct 14, 2014, 9:56:32 AM10/14/14
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On 10/14/2014 9:14 AM, The Cook wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:40:40 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynly...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> I looked for scales you could plug in, thinking it wouldn't
>> turn off to save on batteries. I came up with this one that
>> has an a/c adapter.
>>
>> http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-3001p-black.html
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:40:40 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynly...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> I looked for scales you could plug in, thinking it wouldn't
>> turn off to save on batteries. I came up with this one that
>> has an a/c adapter.
>>
>> http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-3001p-black.html
> The 7001DX will weigh up to 7000 grams for $3 more. I like mine very
> much.
Ooo, I like the looks of that one. I think I'll order it.
> much.
I have been wishing for a postal scale and considering a food
scale. Thanks!
nancy
Helpful person
Oct 14, 2014, 10:55:22 AM10/14/14
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the best solution is to buy an old fashioned balance
scale even though they take up more space.
http://www.richardfisher.com
spamtr...@gmail.com
Oct 14, 2014, 11:23:04 AM10/14/14
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On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:24:16 PM UTC-7, DavidW wrote:
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
Every German kitchen used to have one of these handy mechanical scales
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that only
> turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position if it turns
> itself off? Thanks.
until they suddenly quit making them. Also useful for weighing the baby.
There are plenty available on German eBay -- no battery ever needed.
http://www.dhd24.com/azl/index.php?anz_id=30290939
sf
Oct 14, 2014, 12:43:23 PM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:02:02 +1000, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years
> >> ago. It weighs ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off
> >> if the weight doesn't change after 1 minute. This is a pain because
> >> it also loses its zero (tare) value. Sometimes I've had to rush back
> >> to it to put my finger on it to keep it going for another minute.
> >>
> >> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped
> >> wouldn't have that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30
> >> seconds instead of 1 minute. It even relies on this "feature" to
> >> turn off at all because it doesn't even have an off button.
> >>
> >> Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in
> >> China (the brand of the new one is Propert).
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online
> >> that only turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose
> >> its position if it turns itself off? Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > Mine is around $30 and it gives me plenty of time although I'd rather
> > have less.
>
> Less? Why?
Because I don't need all that time just to measure and I'd rather it
was off rather than on when I'm not in the act of measuring.
> Can't you just turn it off when you want?
No. It sounds like you're disorganized and unfocused when you're
measuring. Mise en place!
can find a $30 digital scale with a cord instead of batteries or one
you could buy of these
<http://www.amazon.com/Detecto-Mechanical-Bakers-Dough-Capacity/dp/B002LVAVGE>
> Why should my scale
> decide when to turn off, and lose the weight of the container on it in the
> process?
It's had to understand what your problem is. You don't need to know
total weight while you're measuring. What is so hard about hitting
tare when you turn it back on again for the next measurement? Or you
could just add whatever it is to the weight without hitting tare and
mentally subtract the weight of the bowl from each measurement after
you add the new ingredient.
> The
> manufacturer had to write additional software to note the last change in
> weight, check the clock and see if it's reached the time limit since that chang
> e - whatever time they think is long enough - and then turn itself off if it
> has. Have the manufacturers ever cooked anything? Do they know that the cook
> might be busy for a few minutes before getting back to the scale? They think
> it's desirable that it operate this way. It's not, and any cook knows that. Why
> don't they know that? It would actually cost them less to do it right.
Listen to yourself.
comments on Amazon, the one I have turns off at 4 minutes. If you
can't do whatever you need to do in 4 minutes, you have a serious
problem that a kitchen scale can't help you with.
You're welcome anyway.
wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:16 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years
> >> ago. It weighs ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off
> >> if the weight doesn't change after 1 minute. This is a pain because
> >> it also loses its zero (tare) value. Sometimes I've had to rush back
> >> to it to put my finger on it to keep it going for another minute.
> >>
> >> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped
> >> wouldn't have that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30
> >> seconds instead of 1 minute. It even relies on this "feature" to
> >> turn off at all because it doesn't even have an off button.
> >>
> >> Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in
> >> China (the brand of the new one is Propert).
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online
> >> that only turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose
> >> its position if it turns itself off? Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > Mine is around $30 and it gives me plenty of time although I'd rather
> > have less.
>
> Less? Why?
was off rather than on when I'm not in the act of measuring.
> Can't you just turn it off when you want?
measuring. Mise en place!
>
> > Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
> > not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
> > going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
>
> Well, that is ridiculous. Why should it be necessary to set the timing? Just
> stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to turn my heater off. I
> have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the oven off. I'm more than happy to
> turn my scale off when I'm done with it, and not before.
Sounds like digital isn't for you. Your problem will be solved if you
> > Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
> > not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
> > going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
>
> Well, that is ridiculous. Why should it be necessary to set the timing? Just
> stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to turn my heater off. I
> have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the oven off. I'm more than happy to
> turn my scale off when I'm done with it, and not before.
can find a $30 digital scale with a cord instead of batteries or one
you could buy of these
<http://www.amazon.com/Detecto-Mechanical-Bakers-Dough-Capacity/dp/B002LVAVGE>
> Why should my scale
> decide when to turn off, and lose the weight of the container on it in the
> process?
total weight while you're measuring. What is so hard about hitting
tare when you turn it back on again for the next measurement? Or you
could just add whatever it is to the weight without hitting tare and
mentally subtract the weight of the bowl from each measurement after
you add the new ingredient.
>
> This is undoubtedly meant to be a design "feature" to save battery life.
Bingo.
> This is undoubtedly meant to be a design "feature" to save battery life.
> The
> manufacturer had to write additional software to note the last change in
> weight, check the clock and see if it's reached the time limit since that chang
> e - whatever time they think is long enough - and then turn itself off if it
> has. Have the manufacturers ever cooked anything? Do they know that the cook
> might be busy for a few minutes before getting back to the scale? They think
> it's desirable that it operate this way. It's not, and any cook knows that. Why
> don't they know that? It would actually cost them less to do it right.
>
> > This is what I have.
> >
> <http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_
> 1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+sca
> les>
It's obvious you didn't bother to look at that link. According to the
> > This is what I have.
> >
> <http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_
> 1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+sca
> les>
comments on Amazon, the one I have turns off at 4 minutes. If you
can't do whatever you need to do in 4 minutes, you have a serious
problem that a kitchen scale can't help you with.
You're welcome anyway.
Nunya Bidnits
Oct 14, 2014, 12:55:56 PM10/14/14
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Set the tare manually and it will stay set until you change it. Easy peasy.
MartyB
graham
Oct 14, 2014, 2:45:35 PM10/14/14
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Obviously a faulty product. I now have:
http://myweigh.com/product/kd7000/
I also bought a transformer for it.
Graham
graham
Oct 14, 2014, 2:50:08 PM10/14/14
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minute but can be re-set for ~5minutes.
I have this model, which cost a lot more than $30:
http://myweigh.com/product/kd7000/
By pressing combinations of buttons it was possible to re-set mine.
Graham
Brooklyn1
Oct 14, 2014, 2:51:00 PM10/14/14
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Bregs
Oct 14, 2014, 5:10:33 PM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:55:56 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Set the tare manually and it will stay set until you change it. Easy peasy.
Blah, blah,blah, blah...all that "expertise" and the end results remain:
> Set the tare manually and it will stay set until you change it. Easy peasy.
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DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 5:48:21 PM10/14/14
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involved, and how you like to work.
>>
>>> Go to Amazon and read the specs on digital scales. You're
>>> not going to find one where you can set the timing and you're not
>>> going to find many that will stay on much/any longer than 3 minutes.
>>
>> Well, that is ridiculous. Why should it be necessary to set the
>> timing? Just stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to
>> turn my heater off. I have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the
>> oven off. I'm more than happy to turn my scale off when I'm done
>> with it, and not before.
>
> Sounds like digital isn't for you.
> Your problem will be solved if you
> can find a $30 digital scale with a cord instead of batteries or one
> you could buy of these
need to find a power point (I have none spare) and the cord would just get in
the way.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Detecto-Mechanical-Bakers-Dough-Capacity/dp/B002LVAVGE>
>
>> Why should my scale
>> decide when to turn off, and lose the weight of the container on it
>> in the process?
>
> It's had to understand what your problem is. You don't need to know
> total weight while you're measuring. What is so hard about hitting
> tare when you turn it back on again for the next measurement?
To make a chocolate biscuit cake I would like to put the mixing bowl on the
scale and press tare. Then add all the ingredients - melted copha, icing sugar
(previously weighed out), cocoa, egg, vanilla - and mix them. Then if I put the
bowl back on the scale it will give me the weight of the mixture alone, which I
would divide by 5 to give me the amount of mixture per layer. I can't do all
that in one minute before the scale turns itself off.
> Or you
> could just add whatever it is to the weight without hitting tare and
> mentally subtract the weight of the bowl from each measurement after
> you add the new ingredient.
for that.
>>
>> This is undoubtedly meant to be a design "feature" to save battery
>> life.
>
> Bingo.
devices people will typically turn them on when they use them and then turn them
off. There's just no need for scales to have this "feature" that is really a
fault.
>> The
>> manufacturer had to write additional software to note the last
>> change in weight, check the clock and see if it's reached the time
>> limit since that chang e - whatever time they think is long enough -
>> and then turn itself off if it has. Have the manufacturers ever
>> cooked anything? Do they know that the cook might be busy for a few
>> minutes before getting back to the scale? They think it's desirable
>> that it operate this way. It's not, and any cook knows that. Why
>> don't they know that? It would actually cost them less to do it
>> right.
>
> Listen to yourself.
>>
>>> This is what I have.
>>>
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_
>> 1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+sca
>> les>
>
> It's obvious you didn't bother to look at that link.
do appreciate your assistance, but as I said in the OP I am looking for one that
stays on until I turn it off.
> According to the
> comments on Amazon, the one I have turns off at 4 minutes. If you
> can't do whatever you need to do in 4 minutes, you have a serious
> problem that a kitchen scale can't help you with.
biscuit cake mixture I described above.
DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 5:55:18 PM10/14/14
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sf wrote:
>
> This is what I have.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+scales>
> No idea how to change the batteries, I've had it for at least 4 years
> and they are still going great so I'll cross that bridge when I come
> to it.
I didn't pick up on this earlier. If you've had it for four years without
>
> This is what I have.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Primo-Digital-Kitchen-Scale-Chrome/dp/B0007GAWRS/ref=sr_1_2/178-1937262-3241424?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1413262885&sr=1-2&keywords=escali+scales>
> No idea how to change the batteries, I've had it for at least 4 years
> and they are still going great so I'll cross that bridge when I come
> to it.
needing to change the batteries, doesn't that suggest that it uses so little
power that there's just no need for the scale to turn itself off by design if
it's going to lose its tare value?
Jeßus
Oct 14, 2014, 6:29:09 PM10/14/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
>A battery is far more convenient than a cord. I can move it anywhere, I don't
>need to find a power point (I have none spare) and the cord would just get in
>the way.
Finding a battery operated scale that can have the auto-off disabled
ain't easy... but this one apparently does:
"The Jennings is easy to use and store, comes with an AC adapter to
save on batteries, and has an auto-off function that you can
disable—so you can take your sweet time mixing or brewing"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C3CAB8?tag=thesweethome-20&linkCode=as2
.5g to 4KG, though, a tad too low for my purposes...
The scales I suggested previously can be either mains or battery
operated, but I suspect in battery mode it'll turn itself off (I've
never put a battery into it, so I don't know for sure).
wrote:
>A battery is far more convenient than a cord. I can move it anywhere, I don't
>need to find a power point (I have none spare) and the cord would just get in
>the way.
ain't easy... but this one apparently does:
"The Jennings is easy to use and store, comes with an AC adapter to
save on batteries, and has an auto-off function that you can
disable—so you can take your sweet time mixing or brewing"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C3CAB8?tag=thesweethome-20&linkCode=as2
.5g to 4KG, though, a tad too low for my purposes...
The scales I suggested previously can be either mains or battery
operated, but I suspect in battery mode it'll turn itself off (I've
never put a battery into it, so I don't know for sure).
Nunya Bidnits
Oct 14, 2014, 7:31:55 PM10/14/14
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level.
HTH.
MartyB
DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 7:36:41 PM10/14/14
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> A battery is far more convenient than a cord. I can move it
>> anywhere, I don't need to find a power point (I have none spare) and
>> the cord would just get in the way.
>
> Finding a battery operated scale that can have the auto-off disabled
> ain't easy... but this one apparently does:
>
> "The Jennings is easy to use and store, comes with an AC adapter to
> save on batteries, and has an auto-off function that you can
> disable-so you can take your sweet time mixing or brewing"
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> A battery is far more convenient than a cord. I can move it
>> anywhere, I don't need to find a power point (I have none spare) and
>> the cord would just get in the way.
>
> Finding a battery operated scale that can have the auto-off disabled
> ain't easy... but this one apparently does:
>
> "The Jennings is easy to use and store, comes with an AC adapter to
> save on batteries, and has an auto-off function that you can
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C3CAB8?tag=thesweethome-20&linkCode=as2
> .5g to 4KG, though, a tad too low for my purposes...
That page looks encouraging. Someone who seems to feel the same about auto-off
> .5g to 4KG, though, a tad too low for my purposes...
as I do has posted a question there:
Q. I took out the batteries and plugged the AC adapter into the wall... but it
still auto-off after about 2 minutes. Is my unit defective?
A. Using the AC adapter has nothing to do with the Auto Off function. You need
to turn the Auto Off function off. With the scale off, hold down the MODE button
and press the power button (momentarily) to turn the scale on. The display will
show A_ON. Press the MODE button once and the display should show A_OFF. A_OFF
means the auto off function is off. Power the scale off then back on and you are
good to go.
Sounds like you can disable it under battery power as well.
> The scales I suggested previously can be either mains or battery
> operated, but I suspect in battery mode it'll turn itself off (I've
> never put a battery into it, so I don't know for sure).
sure auto-off could be disabled and there were no other options.
DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 7:38:48 PM10/14/14
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Nunya Bidnits
Oct 14, 2014, 7:45:34 PM10/14/14
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would be just fine.
MartyB
sf
Oct 14, 2014, 8:16:03 PM10/14/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that chocolate
> biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>
If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
> biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>
don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
your mixture + bowl?
sf
Oct 14, 2014, 8:17:50 PM10/14/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:55:18 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
It doesn't matter to me. I don't need the amount of time you think
you need because I can work with a time limit.
wrote:
you need because I can work with a time limit.
Ed Pawlowski
Oct 14, 2014, 9:49:40 PM10/14/14
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On 10/14/2014 5:48 PM, DavidW wrote:
>>> Well, that is ridiculous. Why should it be necessary to set the
>>> timing? Just stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to
>>> turn my heater off. I have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the
>>> oven off. I'm more than happy to turn my scale off when I'm done
>>> with it, and not before.
>>
>>> Well, that is ridiculous. Why should it be necessary to set the
>>> timing? Just stay on until I turn it off. Is that so hard? I have to
>>> turn my heater off. I have to turn my lights off. I have to turn the
>>> oven off. I'm more than happy to turn my scale off when I'm done
>>> with it, and not before.
>>
> Scales use very little power and batteries are cheap, and like other electrical
> devices people will typically turn them on when they use them and then turn them
> off. There's just no need for scales to have this "feature" that is really a
> fault.
I'm not going to try to change your cooking methods. I hate scales that
> devices people will typically turn them on when they use them and then turn them
> off. There's just no need for scales to have this "feature" that is really a
> fault.
turn themselves off. I use two of them at work and have the same
problem. I get everything set up and the damned thing goes off. Not
only do I have to turn it back on, I have to change from ounces to
grams. By the fifth time it is a real PITA.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Oct 14, 2014, 10:02:15 PM10/14/14
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On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:55:56 AM UTC-5, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>
> Get a spring or balance scale. It won't turn off until gravity goes away.
> Set the tare manually and it will stay set until you change it. Easy peasy.
>
> MartyB
>
>
The spring scale is exactly what I have and no batteries to fool with and yep, stays perfectly balanced.
>
> Get a spring or balance scale. It won't turn off until gravity goes away.
> Set the tare manually and it will stay set until you change it. Easy peasy.
>
> MartyB
>
>
Jeßus
Oct 14, 2014, 10:30:08 PM10/14/14
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DavidW
Oct 14, 2014, 10:45:59 PM10/14/14
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sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>
> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
> your mixture + bowl?
Why should I have to do that when I have a scale that can do exactly that for
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>
> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
> your mixture + bowl?
me, if only it wouldn't turn itself off? The whole benefit of having a digital
scale with a tare button is to do exactly this sort of thing without having to
write down numbers and subtract them.
Why are you making excuses for it? Do you really think it's reasonable that a
scale's auto-off after an arbitrary period of time should stop people using it
in ways they otherwise could?
sf
Oct 15, 2014, 2:40:06 AM10/15/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
You can't hold one number in your head? I told you how to deal with
the situation, you don't want to do it.
wrote:
the situation, you don't want to do it.
Janet
Oct 15, 2014, 9:39:12 AM10/15/14
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In article <m1kbpv$v12$1...@dont-email.me>, nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
LOL.. too heavy for people who think in cup sizes.
Janet UK
september.invalid says...
Janet UK
Brooklyn1
Oct 15, 2014, 10:39:59 AM10/15/14
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it's used at least a few times a week... batterys go bad just from
sitting. I use an inexpensive spring scale but if I use it once a
month it's a lot, sometimes it can sit unused for six months. I used
it yesterday for dividing a pound of ziti in half... weighing pasta is
probably the most use that scale gets... I typically cook 1 1/2 pounds
of pasta, so now I have a half box of ziti to go with a full pound
next time... I always buy pasta in multiples of three. I like to have
left over pasta. I have a battery operated bathroom scale, sits on
the top shelf of the linen closet, rarely gets used, got it for
weighing the cats. I weigh me, then weigh me holding the cat, found
that the easiest way. I used to keep it on the floor in the bathroom,
wouldn't you know tht's the only time a cat will use it to sleep on.
The scale takes one of those 9V batteries, invaribly when I go to use
the scale the battery is dead. It's like the flashlight in my car,
rarely gets used, then when I need to use it the batterys are dead or
so weak they may as well be dead. Makes me realize what
disappointment yoose ladies go through with your battery operated
personal appliance. ;)
spamtr...@gmail.com
Oct 15, 2014, 10:49:03 AM10/15/14
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Nunya Bidnits
Oct 15, 2014, 10:51:11 AM10/15/14
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shutdown?
I know that's a PITA too but probably not as bad as resetting it all the
time.
MartyB
Brooklyn1
Oct 15, 2014, 11:05:00 AM10/15/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
wrote:
wrote:
an on/off switch. If I needed an electric kitchen scale it would be
AC and stayed on until I turned it off. This one is AC/DC and
allows you to program the auto turn off for however many minutes or
not to turn it off at all.
http://www.amazon.com/ZIEIS-Precision-Multi-Purpose-Stainless-Programmable/dp/B008FB16QI/ref=sr_1_3?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1413384341&sr=1-3&keywords=kitchen+scale+ac+power
Ed Pawlowski
Oct 15, 2014, 12:05:13 PM10/15/14
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On 10/15/2014 10:51 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> I'm not going to try to change your cooking methods. I hate scales
>> that turn themselves off. I use two of them at work and have the same
>> problem. I get everything set up and the damned thing goes off. Not
>> only do I have to turn it back on, I have to change from ounces to
>> grams. By the fifth time it is a real PITA.
>
> What if you just tap it once in a while, won't that reset it's power
> saving shutdown?
>
> I know that's a PITA too but probably not as bad as resetting it all the
> time.
>
> MartyB
That works and I do it at times, but if you have to make a computer
>> I'm not going to try to change your cooking methods. I hate scales
>> that turn themselves off. I use two of them at work and have the same
>> problem. I get everything set up and the damned thing goes off. Not
>> only do I have to turn it back on, I have to change from ounces to
>> grams. By the fifth time it is a real PITA.
>
> What if you just tap it once in a while, won't that reset it's power
> saving shutdown?
>
> I know that's a PITA too but probably not as bad as resetting it all the
> time.
>
> MartyB
entry or get something else, it will be off. I don't do it that often
so I live with it, but it certainly is not a feature. Instead of a
minute or two, 15 would be good.
Brooklyn1
Oct 15, 2014, 1:01:34 PM10/15/14
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for me... but I keep looking! ;)
Nunya Bidnits
Oct 15, 2014, 1:15:55 PM10/15/14
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Brooklyn1 <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Makes me realize what
> disappointment yoose ladies go through with your battery operated
> personal appliance. ;)
Makes me realize that sexually creepy douchbags like you are the reason why
> Makes me realize what
> disappointment yoose ladies go through with your battery operated
> personal appliance. ;)
a lot of them prefer their BOB.
Just sayin'.
DavidW
Oct 15, 2014, 4:38:20 PM10/15/14
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>>>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>>>
>>> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
>>> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
>>> your mixture + bowl?
>>
>> Why should I have to do that when I have a scale that can do exactly
>> that for me, if only it wouldn't turn itself off? The whole benefit
>> of having a digital scale with a tare button is to do exactly this
>> sort of thing without having to write down numbers and subtract them.
>>
>> Why are you making excuses for it? Do you really think it's
>> reasonable that a scale's auto-off after an arbitrary period of time
>> should stop people using it in ways they otherwise could?
>
> There's probably a simple way to disable that auto off feature and add
> an on/off switch.
There's nothing in the manual of either of mine. Both just say that's what they
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>>>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>>>
>>> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
>>> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
>>> your mixture + bowl?
>>
>> Why should I have to do that when I have a scale that can do exactly
>> that for me, if only it wouldn't turn itself off? The whole benefit
>> of having a digital scale with a tare button is to do exactly this
>> sort of thing without having to write down numbers and subtract them.
>>
>> Why are you making excuses for it? Do you really think it's
>> reasonable that a scale's auto-off after an arbitrary period of time
>> should stop people using it in ways they otherwise could?
>
> There's probably a simple way to disable that auto off feature and add
> an on/off switch.
do. No choice.
> If I needed an electric kitchen scale it would be
> AC and stayed on until I turned it off. This one is AC/DC and
> allows you to program the auto turn off for however many minutes or
> not to turn it off at all.
> http://www.amazon.com/ZIEIS-Precision-Multi-Purpose-Stainless-Programmable/dp/B008FB16QI/ref=sr_1_3?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1413384341&sr=1-3&keywords=kitchen+scale+ac+power
DavidW
Oct 15, 2014, 4:48:28 PM10/15/14
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sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>>>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>>>
>>> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
>>> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
>>> your mixture + bowl?
>>
>> Why should I have to do that when I have a scale that can do exactly
>> that for me, if only it wouldn't turn itself off? The whole benefit
>> of having a digital scale with a tare button is to do exactly this
>> sort of thing without having to write down numbers and subtract them.
>>
>> Why are you making excuses for it? Do you really think it's
>> reasonable that a scale's auto-off after an arbitrary period of time
>> should stop people using it in ways they otherwise could?
>>
> You can't hold one number in your head?
If the scale did it you don't even need to know the number. You also have to do
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:45:59 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:21 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it takes me more than four minutes to make that
>>>> chocolate biscuit cake mixture I described above.
>>>>
>>> If dividing it into 5 perfectly equal parts is that important, why
>>> don't you subtract the weight of the bowl from the total weight of
>>> your mixture + bowl?
>>
>> Why should I have to do that when I have a scale that can do exactly
>> that for me, if only it wouldn't turn itself off? The whole benefit
>> of having a digital scale with a tare button is to do exactly this
>> sort of thing without having to write down numbers and subtract them.
>>
>> Why are you making excuses for it? Do you really think it's
>> reasonable that a scale's auto-off after an arbitrary period of time
>> should stop people using it in ways they otherwise could?
>>
> You can't hold one number in your head?
the subtraction.
> I told you how to deal with the situation, you don't want to do it.
won't, but you haven't given a reason why the scale should do it only if you
take less than a minute to get back to it. Tell me why a scale with a tare
function should require me to mix icing sugar, cocoa, an egg, vanilla and melted
copha a little at a time into a smooth mixture in less than a minute in order to
make use of that function.
sf
Oct 15, 2014, 5:17:45 PM10/15/14
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:48:28 +1100, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>
Good luck with that.
Bregs
Oct 15, 2014, 7:25:49 PM10/15/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:31:55 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> You should demand a full scale investigation
Blah, blah,blah, blah...all that "expertise" and the end results remain:
> You should demand a full scale investigation
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Oct 15, 2014, 7:27:38 PM10/15/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:45:34 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Indeed you are correct.
> Indeed you are correct.
Bregs
Oct 15, 2014, 7:28:48 PM10/15/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:51:11 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> What if you just tap it once in a while, won't that reset it's power saving
> shutdown?
> What if you just tap it once in a while, won't that reset it's power saving
> shutdown?
Bregs
Oct 15, 2014, 7:35:29 PM10/15/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:15:55 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Makes me realize that sexually creepy douchbags like you are the reason why
> a lot of them prefer their BOB.
> Makes me realize that sexually creepy douchbags like you are the reason why
> a lot of them prefer their BOB.
Bloke Down The Pub
Feb 19, 2015, 8:22:32 PM2/19/15
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"DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote in message
news:543ca572$0$29944$882e...@usenet-news.net...
> Hello,
>
> I got a battery-powered scale with a digital display a few years ago. It
> weighs ingredients well, but by design it turns itself off if the weight
> doesn't change after 1 minute. This is a pain because it also loses its
> zero (tare) value. Sometimes I've had to rush back to it to put my finger
> on it to keep it going for another minute.
>
> Well, on the weekend I got another electric scale that I hoped wouldn't
> have that problem. It's worse! It turns itself off after 30 seconds
> instead of 1 minute. It even relies on this "feature" to turn off at all
> because it doesn't even have an off button.
>
> Both scales were pretty cheap ($30 or less) and both were made in China
> (the brand of the new one is Propert).
>
> Can anyone suggest an inexpensive brand and model available online that
> only turns off when _I_ want it to turn off, or doesn't lose its position
> if it turns itself off? Thanks.
>
>
Sorry for the very late reply.
I have discovered that I have a property scale and while I do not know how
to stop it turning off on its own, it is possible to turn it off at will by
holding the ON button for a short length of time.
Mike
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