My Laptop in my basement is BROKE!

[John Kuthe]

:-(

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[Thomas]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:08:16 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Genetics

[Hank Rogers]

John Kuthe wrote:
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

But your brain is dying. So you don't need the computer.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:08:16 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

Instead of buying that worthless $850 camera a year or so ago you could have
bought a really nice laptop or desktop for half the price. Thus, leaving you with
$425 to blow on something else as worthless as your camera.

[Alex]

John Kuthe wrote:
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

No, you are broke.  Your computer is broken.  I thought you posted that
you were smart about 200 times.

[GM]

Like you, Joan, I'm getting ready to give a nice computer away - an Asus, 2 1/2 years old - if
John weren't such an UNGRATEFUL CUR I'd consider gifting it to him, but
I know I'd get not even a ****small*** "thank you"...

"That's the breaks"

:-(

--
GM

[Thomas]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:08:16 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:

> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

The sigs used are not true.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-02-27, John Kuthe wrote:

>:-(

If you can see the BIOS / UEFI screen or you
get a message saying that the boot device is
unavailable, it means that now is the time to
buy a SDD drive and install Linux.

[Thomas]

I would smash it before the fbi looks at it.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:15:19 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:

>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Instead of buying that worthless $850 camera a year or so ago you could have
> > bought a really nice laptop or desktop for half the price. Thus, leaving you with
> > $425 to blow on something else as worthless as your camera.
> >
> Like you, Joan, I'm getting ready to give a nice computer away - an Asus, 2 1/2 years old - if
> John weren't such an UNGRATEFUL CUR I'd consider gifting it to him, but
> I know I'd get not even a ****small*** "thank you"...
>
> "That's the breaks"
>
> :-(
>

> GM
>
He'd be clueless how to set it up and have to take it to the local pc shop and give
them money he doesn't have.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:24:42 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> If you can see the BIOS / UEFI screen or you
> get a message saying that the boot device is
> unavailable, it means that now is the time to
> buy a SDD drive and install Linux.
>

Did you hear that loud WOOSH that just flew over his head??

[Bruce]

Next time, ask Mother Superior first, John.

[Bruce]

And also: from now on, only drive your car blindfolded.

[Bruce]

It's nonsense to recommend Linux to average computer users.

[Hank Rogers]

LOL. Kuth using linux.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:15:19 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:

I wouldn't ask you to *give* it to me, but perhaps sell it cheap?
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[Thomas]

Maybe, just maybe, purple panties crashed it. Porn sites can do that if you keep digging deeper.
Keep on clicking those links.

[Dave Smith]

I don't know why you would say that. He has a degree in computer
engineering. He should be able to do it with one hand tied behind his
back. That would probably speed things up because he would not have a
hand free to fondle is glabrous testicals.

[Bruce]

Everybody has known for years that John, computer degree or not, can't
solve any computer problems. You're just trolling, Dave Smith.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

It doesn't matter who he asks, he's incapable of making a wise decision.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yeah, just like he couldn't get his cell phone to work. Let's not forget the
audio shop even had to put a new needle in his turntable. 🙄

[Hank Rogers]

His brain is dying.

Soon, he'll have to hire someone to inject his pecker so he can
whack off each sunday.

[dsi1]

The Linux community could have created something beautiful and powerful but they were so clueless about how people used computers that they let their big shot at making an OS that everybody would want to use slip through their fingers. OTOH, the computers I use are all Linux based, as are most of the computers in use today i.e., Chromebooks and Android. Your best bet if you have an old computer is not Windows or Linux - it'll be Chrome OS or FydeOS. FydeOS is similar to Chrome OS except it's been de-Google-fied.
If you know how to get into the BIOS menu of your computer you should be savvy enough to install Chrome OS or FydeOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiyxnrDbU0s

[Bryan Simmons]

Mint has a fairly Windows-like GUI.

--Bryan

[Dave Smith]

Seriously?? Wow. I had not used my turntable in yeas but had to
occasionally replace the needle. The old one slides out and the new one
slides back on.

[Gary]

On 2/27/2023 6:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Your laptop in the basement is BROKE?
Even *it* ran out of money?

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:08:13 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe wrote:

> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

The one that has cost you about $2,000 in the last 3 years just so
you could watch porn?

How do you still even have Internet service? You should be
dropping out of here any day now... Now you won't even be able to
take your laptop to some place that has free wifi. This is good
news.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:40:52 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:

> The Linux community could have created something beautiful and
> powerful but they were so clueless about how people used
> computers that they let their big shot at making an OS that
> everybody would want to use slip through their fingers.

You're babbling in circles again.

> OTOH, the computers I use are all Linux based,

See? Make up your mind. Computers are hardware and therefore
based on RISC, x86, x64, ARM, etc... And other than embedded
systems, have the ability to run any arbitrary software operating
system. Computers are based on hardware components, not software
operating systems.

As for actual full-scale "computers" for end-users (which
outnumber full scale hardware servers 200 to 1), 70% of them run a
Microsoft Windows operating system. Not ChromeOS or Android.

> as are most of the computers in use today i.e., Chromebooks and Android. Your best
> bet if you have an old computer is not Windows or Linux - it'll
> be Chrome OS or FydeOS. FydeOS is similar to Chrome OS except
> it's been de-Google-fied.

And here you get even more clueless. It's like you know how to
spell words, but don't know what the words mean.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-02-28, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:40:52 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
>
>> The Linux community could have created something beautiful and
>> powerful but they were so clueless about how people used
>> computers that they let their big shot at making an OS that
>> everybody would want to use slip through their fingers.
>
> You're babbling in circles again.
>
>> OTOH, the computers I use are all Linux based,
>
> See? Make up your mind. Computers are hardware and therefore
> based on RISC, x86, x64, ARM, etc... And other than embedded
> systems, have the ability to run any arbitrary software operating
> system.

That's a very limited definition of computer.

Here's a more standard definition:

"A computer is a programmable electronic device that accepts raw data as
input and processes it with a set of instructions (a program) to produce
the result as output."
https://www.javatpoint.com/what-is-computer

> Computers are based on hardware components, not software
> operating systems.
>
> As for actual full-scale "computers" for end-users (which
> outnumber full scale hardware servers 200 to 1), 70% of them run a
> Microsoft Windows operating system. Not ChromeOS or Android.

Every cell phone in the world (about 15 billion of them) is a computer.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

"full-scale computers"

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:38:54 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2023-02-27 11:03 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Let's not forget the
> > audio shop even had to put a new needle in his turntable. 🙄
> >

> Seriously?? Wow. I had not used my turntable in years but had to

> occasionally replace the needle. The old one slides out and the new one
> slides back on.
>

He shared that little tidbit less than a month ago.

At the age of fifteen even I knew how to put a new needle in a turntable. But
I also had all my marbles, too.

[jmcquown]

Mike knows perfectly well John has no clue what that means. Just
another useless Kuthe post to call attention to himself. No doubt he
will take that ancient laptop computer to a shop where they will charge
him an inordinate amount of money to fix it.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:50:36 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 2/27/2023 7:37 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:24:42 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>
>>> If you can see the BIOS / UEFI screen or you
>>> get a message saying that the boot device is
>>> unavailable, it means that now is the time to
>>> buy a SDD drive and install Linux.
>>>
>> Did you hear that loud WOOSH that just flew over his head??
>
>Mike knows perfectly well John has no clue what that means. Just

>another useless Duffy post to call attention to himself.

Fixed it. You're welcome :)

[jmcquown]

Funny thing, I have a camera very similar to the one John bought for
$700+ and yet I didn't pay anywhere near what he paid for it at an
expensive camera shop. I also didn't have to take it to the shop
because I couldn't figure out how to turn the mod dial on the top.

Jill

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 19:57:50 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2023-02-28, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:40:52 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> The Linux community could have created something beautiful and
>>> powerful but they were so clueless about how people used
>>> computers that they let their big shot at making an OS that
>>> everybody would want to use slip through their fingers.
>>
>> You're babbling in circles again.
>>
>>> OTOH, the computers I use are all Linux based,
>>
>> See? Make up your mind. Computers are hardware and therefore
>> based on RISC, x86, x64, ARM, etc... And other than embedded
>> systems, have the ability to run any arbitrary software operating
>> system.
>
> That's a very limited definition of computer.
>
> Here's a more standard definition:
>
> "A computer is a programmable electronic device that accepts raw data as
> input and processes it with a set of instructions (a program) to produce
> the result as output."
> https://www.javatpoint.com/what-is-computer

And that contradicts my *non-definition* of a computer, how? I
simply stated a computer was a hardware device with an (implied)
CPU (or rather a large concentrated mass of transistors). A
calculator is an example of an embedded system without an
"operating system", which I also mentioned or implied.

>> Computers are based on hardware components, not software
>> operating systems.
>>
>> As for actual full-scale "computers" for end-users (which
>> outnumber full scale hardware servers 200 to 1), 70% of them run a
>> Microsoft Windows operating system. Not ChromeOS or Android.
>
> Every cell phone in the world (about 15 billion of them) is a computer.

No shit? <rolling eyes>. It is indeed, as is my own brain (your's
too, I think). So was my rotary dial phone back in 1972. But the
point was that computers are not software or operating system
based. They are hardware devices that react to arbitrary patterns
of electron states. They are not operating-system based, as in
his usage.

Go away. You're defending an idiot and just trying to be
difficult. Stop humping my posts with these time-wasting non-
arguments. if you want me to teach you something, just ask. You
don't have to drag it out of me like this.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:30 -0800 (PST),

Look at Mike, trying to remotely diagnose the problem. Dude, it's
broken. Don't ask what he sees or how it behaves to make him
think that it's broken. It's just broken. It doesn't work. OK?

-sw

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 2/28/2023 6:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> No shit? <rolling eyes>. It is indeed, as is my own brain (your's
> too, I think). So was my rotary dial phone back in 1972.

A basic telephone is a very simple communications device with zero
computing power. It connects to a telephone switch over wires. The first
telephone switches could maybe be considered computers, and they became
more “computer-like" as the switch generations advanced.

Does it retain logic? Perform logical operations? Not much more than a
light switch.

[dsi1]

squertz is in a manic phaze and is spewing forth random disconnected words. Don't pay him no mind.

[Bruce]

Ain't that the truth. He's not doing well.

[Michael Trew]

A touch-tone phone with phone number memory, and buttons for basic
features... one could argue that was a feature. My 1970's Western
Electric rotary dial model 554 kitchen wall phone? Certainly not a
"computer". It's nothing more than a phone, as God intended it. ;)

[Sqwertz]

It is an electronic device that translates arbitrary electron
phases into mechanical energy in both directions. Input. Output.
Electric. Computer.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

You don't appear to have anything to teach me. I'll put my 30 years
working for a company that _made_ computers up against whatever your
experience might be any day.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Electric and electronic are not the same thing.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

You are clearly superior to John but why gloat about it?

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:24:51 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:

> squertz is in a manic phaze and is spewing forth random disconnected words.

Niiiiice - We have a projectionist to fill in for Sheldon.

-sw

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Everybody here is superior to him. It's not gloating, it's just a plain fact.

[Bruce]

It's gloating.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

It's a truthful fact.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:25:22 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:10:49 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:08:15 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Everybody here is superior to him. It's not gloating, it's just a plain fact.
>> >
>> It's gloating.
>>
>It's a truthful fact.

But it's also gloating. (And very repetitive as well.)

[jmcquown]

I don't consider myself "superior" but I *do* know how to read the
little manual that came with the camera. It explains all about the
picture modes (I typed mod before, typo) on the dial.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Gloating. Seems to me that John has been gloating about the three
degrees which he has used to further his career to where it has led....
chronic unemployment. He gloated about inheriting a lot of money. He
hated his father and the capitalist system that his father used to make
enough money to leave the ingrate enough money to buy the house. He
gloated about purchasing the house. He gloated about the $113,000 <?>
roof *repair* He gloated about buying the EV that doesn't work anymore.

And who does Gary try to shame about gloating?

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-01 5:34 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

[jmcquown]

Go figure.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 18:47:33 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

The Sisterhood at work: Sister Joan, Sister Jill and Sister Dave are
closing the ranks :)

[jmcquown]

I'm certainly not ashamed of knowing how to read the relatively short
manual that came with the camera. I'm not gloating about it, either.
It was a factual statement. I read the manual.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Truthful fact.
Truthful fact.
Truthful fact.
Truthful fact.
Truthful fact.

Is that repetitive enough?

[Bruce]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 18:52:58 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Maybe it's time to stop going on about it. So you can read a manual.
Applause! Cheering crowds!

[Bruce]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:59:16 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:29:38 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:25:22 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:10:49 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:08:15 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> >> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Everybody here is superior to him. It's not gloating, it's just a plain fact.
>> >> >
>> >> It's gloating.
>> >>
>> >It's a truthful fact.
>> >
>> But it's also gloating. (And very repetitive as well.)
>>
>Truthful fact.
>Truthful fact.
>Truthful fact.
>Truthful fact.
>Truthful fact.
>
>Is that repetitive enough?

Jill's gloating.

[jmcquown]

Does Bruce love the repetitive posts about "glabrous nads" and
"Nordictracking"? Are they not repetitive?

Jill

[Bruce]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:37:59 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Of course they are and of course he's a nut. But why be a nut too?

[Gary]

Why not ignore those posts? I do.
John-boy has hit rock bottom in his life for now.
None of his plans have worked out.
Why kick sand in his face rather than either be supportive
or just walk away?

You have a killfile. Why don't you add him?

Reminds me of, "Hire the handicapped, they're fun to watch."

Note: this is for all the bullies (male and female)

[Gary]

True. You don't see the difference.
How often does John pick on you?

[Bruce]

She'll never admit she's doing something wrong.

[jmcquown]

John is too self-absorbed to bother. It is not gloating to say I know
how to read the manual that came with my camera.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:57:19 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

It's rather strange to say it so often.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 1:57:27 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> John is too self-absorbed to bother. It is not gloating to say I know
> how to read the manual that came with my camera.
>
> Jill
>

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[%]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> Careful! Saint Gary will strike thee with a lightning bolt!!
>
>

I picture Chevy playing thru Bill's garage/living room
in Caddyshack, while Bill dusts with the back pack leaf blower.

[%]

jmcquown wrote:
> John is too self-absorbed to bother.
>

> Jill
>
Yet somehow he 'absorbs' your endless attention.

[jmcquown]

LOL Did you notice he's modified some of his replies to paranthetically
include both male and female bullies of his choosing?

Thunderstorms are moving into the area where I live. There might be
some actual lightning here tonight. :)

Jill

[Bruce]

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:29:46 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/2/2023 4:14 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 1:57:27 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> John is too self-absorbed to bother. It is not gloating to say I know
>>> how to read the manual that came with my camera.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> Careful! Saint Gary will strike thee with a lightning bolt!!
>>
>> 🌩️⚡
>
>LOL Did you notice he's modified some of his replies to paranthetically
>include both male and female bullies of his choosing?

That's very inclusive, progressive and modern.

>Thunderstorms are moving into the area where I live. There might be
>some actual lightning here tonight. :)

Maybe the light will go on in your brain.

[Hank Rogers]

Not to worry. Her majesty can blow his ass out of the water with a
single volley.

[Hank Rogers]

He's pretty fucked up, but so is she. It's a natural thing. It's
too bad they are both so fucked up that they'll never get married.

They are both very special people.

[Hank Rogers]

Damn, most of us have never seen lightening! If your majesty
observes any, please let us know.

[John Kuthe]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:08:16 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

No it's not, I was just shutting down incorrectly! I should go to the Start icon then find the Shutdown option! NOT just power OFF the machine!

So I expect my morning Cuppa Plus will work much better! :-)

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:10:55 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> No it's not, I was just shutting down incorrectly! I should go to the Start icon then find the Shutdown option! NOT just power OFF the machine!
>

> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
How were you 'shutting it down incorrectly'??

[Thomas]

He just clicks the switch off before closing programs.

[Alex]

He's not very bright.

[GM]

John and Jill would do great together on "The Dating Game"... or "Hollywierd Squares"...

Or even "The Gong Show"...

--
GM

[John Kuthe]

No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.

John Kuthe...

[GM]

"Your future is all used up", John...

😎

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:50:40 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.

[Gary]

I've got a Win10 laptop. That one plus the older Win7 laptop and even
older desktops will go "off" after about 3 days using the internet. I
guess some websites aren't quite right.

I generally have to do a total shutdown about twice a week to fix
things. It's no big deal and it *does* fix things. The problem is
usually just running too slow.

My old Win98 computer never uses the internet now and it will be fine
for weeks just letting it "sleep."

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 20:06:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:50:40?PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
>update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
>the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.

MS are so poor on updates my computer is set to take updates about six
months after they arrive, that way MS have hopefully fixed the
wobblies! I learned that after my computer and about 40,000 other
computers had to be completely re-installed, at least I had the main
things like pics duplicated on an external HD so didn't lose them
entirely. MS never admits responsibility re disasters like that :-©

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 05:53:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 3/2/2023 11:06 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:50:40?PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
>> update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
>> the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.
>
>I've got a Win10 laptop. That one plus the older Win7 laptop and even
>older desktops will go "off" after about 3 days using the internet. I
>guess some websites aren't quite right.
>
>I generally have to do a total shutdown about twice a week to fix
>things. It's no big deal and it *does* fix things. The problem is
>usually just running too slow.
>
>My old Win98 computer never uses the internet now and it will be fine
>for weeks just letting it "sleep."

For years now, once a week, I completely turn off the computer and
restart the next day. Works wonders!

[Janet]

In article
<fGmdnZFDbdm8zJz5...@giganews.com>, Xela777
@gmail.com says...

Despite having THREE DEGREES and being a cannabis nurse.

Janet UK

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-03, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/2/2023 11:06 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:50:40 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
>> update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
>> the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.
>
> I've got a Win10 laptop. That one plus the older Win7 laptop and even
> older desktops will go "off" after about 3 days using the internet. I
> guess some websites aren't quite right.

Or your browser has what we call a memory leak. Memory is allocated,
but not deallocated when it's no longer needed. Eventually, your
CPU's memory has too little left to do other tasks.

Or your hard drive is so full (or so filled up with active program data)
that it runs out of "swap" space. (The OS uses hard drive space to
conserve RAM and swaps back and forth depending on what's needed at
the moment.)

> I generally have to do a total shutdown about twice a week to fix
> things. It's no big deal and it *does* fix things. The problem is
> usually just running too slow.

Probably a memory leak, then.

> My old Win98 computer never uses the internet now and it will be fine
> for weeks just letting it "sleep."

Since it's not doing anything, it's not allocating memory for any
processes.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-03 7:24 a.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:

>> I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
>> update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
>> the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.
>
> MS are so poor on updates my computer is set to take updates about six
> months after they arrive, that way MS have hopefully fixed the
> wobblies! I learned that after my computer and about 40,000 other
> computers had to be completely re-installed, at least I had the main
> things like pics duplicated on an external HD so didn't lose them
> entirely. MS never admits responsibility re disasters like that :-©

They have been like that since the days of MS DOS. They were always in
such a rush to get out the newest versions that they got released them
with a lot of bugs. At least they now upgrade automatically, which is
probably better than charging a hefty price for the newest version.

[jmcquown]

He explained it. He was turning the laptop off rather than going
through the normal shutdown process. I'll bet the black screen that
came up when he powered it back up and was informed "Windows did not
shut down normally. Do you want to restart it normally or start it in
Safe Mode?" threw him into a tizzy.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 3/2/2023 11:06 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:50:40 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> No, I am just not familiar with Win 10.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>

That is not an excuse. Windows 10 is no different from Windows 7 in
that regard.

> I've rarely ever shut down any of the laptops I've owned. If they need an
> update, then they'll get shut down but normally when I'm done, I just shut
> the lid and it goes into its' sleep mode.

I don't generally shut mine down, either. I'm still running Windows 7
but it goes into sleep mode without closing the lid. Press any key to
wake it up.

Jill

[Bruce]

I've never heard about that. Didn't you just have a hardware failure?

[Bruce]

I turn it off when I go to bed and on when I get up. Why would I leave
my computer on all the time?

[Bruce]

Those degrees are intimidating to people with no education, like
Janet.

[Bruce]

Dave's happy that Microsoft now send him "a lot of bugs"
automatically.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/3/2023 12:57 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
> I turn it off when I go to bed and on when I get up. Why would I leave
> my computer on all the time?

Saves boot up time. Possibly saves wear on components but I have no
evidence to say for sure.

I restart about once a week. Shut off when traveling. Last time this
was fully off was October.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 04:56:55 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

It was about six/seven years ago now, plenty of publicity at the time.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 04:57:57 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Doesn't yours 'go to sleep' after a certain period of time?

[Michael Trew]

On 3/3/2023 8:55, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-03, Gary<g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I've got a Win10 laptop. That one plus the older Win7 laptop and even
>> older desktops will go "off" after about 3 days using the internet. I
>> guess some websites aren't quite right.
>
> Or your browser has what we call a memory leak. Memory is allocated,
> but not deallocated when it's no longer needed. Eventually, your
> CPU's memory has too little left to do other tasks.
>
> Or your hard drive is so full (or so filled up with active program data)
> that it runs out of "swap" space. (The OS uses hard drive space to
> conserve RAM and swaps back and forth depending on what's needed at
> the moment.)

I've had this "browser memory leak" for a couple of years. Sometimes, I
have to restart the browser after every few pages I load. Restarting
the computer helps for a time. Any clue how to fix it? It's been
driving me nuts for some time.

[Michael Trew]

On 3/2/2023 7:28, Gary wrote:
>
> Why not ignore those posts? I do.
> John-boy has hit rock bottom in his life for now.
> None of his plans have worked out.
> Why kick sand in his face rather than either be supportive
> or just walk away?
>
> You have a killfile. Why don't you add him?
>
> Reminds me of, "Hire the handicapped, they're fun to watch."
>
> Note: this is for all the bullies (male and female)

+1

[Bruce]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 13:50:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 3/3/2023 12:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> I turn it off when I go to bed and on when I get up. Why would I leave
>> my computer on all the time?
>
>
>Saves boot up time.

I get up, turn on the computer, feed the cats and the computer's ready
for use. I rarely see it start up.

>Possibly saves wear on components but I have no
>evidence to say for sure.

Maybe being off 8 hours a day's good for the hardware?

>I restart about once a week. Shut off when traveling. Last time this
>was fully off was October.

Mine has been on for 2 hours as I type this.