Purine content of quinoa?

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 2:10:10 PM3/22/11

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This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
of purines in quinoa?

Thanks

Steve

sf

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Mar 22, 2011, 2:40:23 PM3/22/11

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:10:10 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
> of purines in quinoa?
>

Everything has purines, steve. If you went by that alone you'd never
eat anything again. It's a grain, albeit and old one, so put it in
the grain category.

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Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 2:43:36 PM3/22/11

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sf <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:10:10 +0000 (UTC), spo...@speedymail.org

>> This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
>> of purines in quinoa?

>Everything has purines, steve.

Sorry, that is not true.

>If you went by that alone you'd never
>eat anything again. It's a grain, albeit and old one, so put it in
>the grain category.

Logically I agree it's like a grain (it actually is a fruit) and may have
a purine/protein ratio similar to other culinary grains, but I would
like a more definite number.

Steve

John

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:02:34 PM3/22/11

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Steve Pope wrote:

Maybe in here:
Bowes & Church's Food Values of Portions Commonly Used, 19th edition,
J.A.T. Pennington, RD and J.S. Douglass, RD

Paul M. Cook

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:21:56 PM3/22/11

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http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?dbid=142&tname=foodspice

Quinoa is not a commonly allergenic food and is not known to contain
measurable amounts of purines. However, like all members of the
Amaranthaceae-Chenopodiaceae plant family, quinoa does contain oxalates. The
oxalate content of quinoa ranges widely, but even the lower end of the
oxalate range puts quinoa on the caution or avoidance list for an
oxalate-restricted diet.

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:28:21 PM3/22/11

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Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

>http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?dbid=142&tname=foodspice
>
>Quinoa is not a commonly allergenic food and is not known to contain
>measurable amounts of purines.

Paul -- thanks. I had already run across that particular statement,
however it's a little vague... "not known to contain..." doesn't point
at an actual measurement.

Steve

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:28:41 PM3/22/11

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In article <imaro9$25q$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Thanks John.

Steve

ImStillMags

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:53:33 PM3/22/11

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On Mar 22, 12:28 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >> This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
> >> of purines in quinoa?
>

Are you looking because of a tendancy to gout? Or are you looking
because of allergies?

I found this article on the Live Strong website

http://www.livestrong.com/article/14791-smart-shopping-for-making-the-cut-diet-foods/

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 3:57:12 PM3/22/11

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ImStillMags <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Are you looking because of a tendancy to gout?

Correct

>because of allergies?

There's no such thing as a purine or uric acid allergy. These
substances are not proteins.

>I found this article on the Live Strong website

>http://www.livestrong.com/article/14791-smart-shopping-for-making-the-cut-diet-foods/

Hmm. I don't think their categories of low and high purine foods are very
accurate, and they are conflating high-fat and high-purine ingredients
in a way that makes no immediate sense. At a minimum they are not
giving us the logic behind their statements.

Steve

ImStillMags

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Mar 22, 2011, 4:07:20 PM3/22/11

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On Mar 22, 12:57 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

> ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Are you looking because of a tendancy to gout?
>
> Correct
>

here's one for gout

http://www.goutcure.com/goutcausfood.html

Paul M. Cook

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Mar 22, 2011, 4:07:50 PM3/22/11

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Because the amount is unmeasurable :)

Paul

Doug Freyburger

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Mar 22, 2011, 5:06:37 PM3/22/11

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sf wrote:
> spo...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
>> of purines in quinoa?
>>
> Everything has purines, steve. If you went by that alone you'd never
> eat anything again. It's a grain, albeit and old one, so put it in
> the grain category.

Quinoa is a grain in the sense that it is a seed crop with small seeds
that are often ground. It's not a cereal grain because it's not a type
of grass. Buckwheat works the same way.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?dbid=142&tname=foodspice

Individual Concerns

Quinoa is not a commonly allergenic food and is not known to contain

measurable amounts of purines. However, like all members of the
Amaranthaceae-Chenopodiaceae plant family, quinoa does contain
oxalates. The oxalate content of quinoa ranges widely, but even the
lower end of the oxalate range puts quinoa on the caution or avoidance
list for an oxalate-restricted diet.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/343073-the-nutritional-content-of-quinoa/

Listed as having no purines.

http://www.examiner.com/healthy-living-in-fort-worth/friday-s-food-quinoa

This article has a photograph of quinoa plants showing they are not
grasses.

http://www.goutcure.com/goutcausfood.html

Discussion of foods that cause acid or base, something having to do with
gout. It lists quinoa near neutral slightly causing base. It implies
this is beneficial to folks with gout.

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 5:45:06 PM3/22/11

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Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

>"Steve Pope" <spo...@speedymail.org> wrote in message

>> Paul -- thanks. I had already run across that particular statement,

>> however it's a little vague... "not known to contain..." doesn't point
>> at an actual measurement.

>Because the amount is unmeasurable :)

Or it could mean "never measured".

S.

Steve Pope

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Mar 22, 2011, 5:53:04 PM3/22/11

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ImStillMags <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.goutcure.com/goutcausfood.html

Thanks but, dude, I'm specificaly looking for a numerical
number for the purine content of quinoa. Not general-purpose
gout-diet websites. (The one you give is not as inaccuate as
some, but is not wholly accurate either.)

S.

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Pete C.

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Mar 23, 2011, 3:15:03 PM3/23/11

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Or it could mean, "no amount was ever measured in the samples tested and
therefore no continuing testing has been done".

benj...@gmail.com

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Jun 2, 2016, 8:13:25 PM6/2/16

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On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 at 12:10:10 PM UTC-6, Steve Pope wrote:
> This is a longshot but: has anyone seen a reference listing the level
> of purines in quinoa?

Steve, contrary to what sf stated, Quinoa is NOT a grai, it is rather a seed that is harvested from a species of a plant called goosefoot. It is officially a seed and part of a group of pseudocereals, making it neither a cereal nor a grain, and more closely related to spinach and beets than to cereals or grains.

If you have gout you want to avoid dried beans,lentils and cauliflower. I didn't know this before and since I stopped eating meat, I had been eating those for protein along with fermented brown rice.

Two weeks later I had a gout flare up that's lasting me 5 days now.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Jun 2, 2016, 11:54:10 PM6/2/16

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In article <a4d6d577-8422-4267...@googlegroups.com>,

<benj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have gout you want to avoid dried beans,lentils and cauliflower. I
> didn't know this before and since I stopped eating meat, I had been eating
> those for protein along with fermented brown rice.
>
> Two weeks later I had a gout flare up that's lasting me 5 days now.

I had a gout flare up in my knee that lasted two months early last
year. Doctors (three) said that the attack was unusual. Toward the end,
one pumped my knee full of cortisone which had a immediate effect. Then
I went on allopurinol. I used to get gout or a twinge of it in a foot
or knee at least once a month and used Colcrys (colchicine) to stop the
attack. Sometimes I was too late and paid for it.
I haven't had a attack in well over a year now with allopurinol.
I started eating gout inducing foods soon after starting allopurinol to
test it for myself. Nothing so far. I still don't gorge on shrimp, but
maybe I can. I eat shrimp again along with a bunch of other foods I
used to shun because of gout.
Seriously, get allopurinol and take a pill a day until you die. Life
gets so much better. Yeah, I didn't like the idea of taking a pill a
day either, but I like not worrying about gout much better.
If you decide to stop taking allopurinol, you can always go back to the
way you were. So there's that.

leo

sf

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Jun 3, 2016, 4:19:47 PM6/3/16

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You have to know what triggers your gout and avoid that, not all foods
containing purine. Hubby has figured out what his triggers are
(shellfish), avoids them entirely and limits his consumption of red
meat - he's been fine for years now.

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sf

jmcquown

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Jun 5, 2016, 12:06:04 PM6/5/16

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On 6/3/2016 4:19 PM, sf wrote:
> You have to know what triggers your gout and avoid that, not all foods
> containing purine. Hubby has figured out what his triggers are
> (shellfish), avoids them entirely and limits his consumption of red
> meat - he's been fine for years now.
>
> -- sf

That's my understanding of gout. Andy (RB) used to complain about gout
after eating things like things like venison and buffalo burgers. You
have to recognize your personal food triggers. Then avoid them.

Jill

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notbob

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Jul 28, 2018, 2:28:14 PM7/28/18

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On 7/28/2018 11:30 AM, ruk...@gmail.com wrote:

> - If all of the above is too much work, request allopurinol from your doctor. This requires daily use.

I've been taking allopurinol for over 20 yrs. No side effects for me.

Also, I can eat pretty much whatever I want. No gout attacks since I
been on allopurinol. ;)

nb

col...@gmail.com

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Jul 28, 2018, 6:03:08 PM7/28/18

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Spinach has a lot of oxalates.

dsi1

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Jul 28, 2018, 6:45:45 PM7/28/18

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On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 12:03:08 PM UTC-10, col...@gmail.com wrote:
> Spinach has a lot of oxalates.

Taro is chock full of calcium oxalate crystals. It's always scary to eat some taro that you cook yourself. You take a little to see if you've cooked it enough. If you didn't, your throat is going to be irritated. It's quite an uncomfortable feeling.

graham

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Jul 28, 2018, 9:59:49 PM7/28/18

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On 2018-07-28 11:30 AM, ruk...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Steve, I've been looking around for an answer regarding quinoa as well. I haven't found an actual measurement yet.

Replying to a 2011 post!!

Jinx the Minx

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Jul 29, 2018, 2:11:20 AM7/29/18

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One of the local ice cream shops here makes taro ice cream and it is, hands
down, my favorite flavor of ice cream there. Delish!

dsi1

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On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 8:11:20 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
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> One of the local ice cream shops here makes taro ice cream and it is, hands
> down, my favorite flavor of ice cream there. Delish!

I've never seen taro ice cream. Taro is an awesome wonder food but it doesn't have much of a taste. It may be ube ice cream. For some reason ube is sometimes called "taro." Ube is a delightfully purple sweet potato and is a popular flavor in the Philippines. I think it could make it big in the states too. That would be cool. OTOH, taro is probably a better name for an ice cream than ube. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm4yNGTlQOw

Ophelia

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Jul 29, 2018, 5:46:04 AM7/29/18

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lol she wasn't too happy with that ice shaving machine:))

Druce

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On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 23:57:30 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
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I like her, but the longer I watch her the less I understand what
she's talking about.

Stagger Lee

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Jul 29, 2018, 12:19:20 PM7/29/18

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On 7/28/2018 6:03 PM, col...@gmail.com wrote:
> Spinach has a lot of oxalates.
>

Google groups has a lot of tards.

dsi1

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Jul 29, 2018, 1:01:59 PM7/29/18

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On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 11:46:04 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ==
>
> lol she wasn't too happy with that ice shaving machine:))

Welcome to the real world baby! Processing ice cubes into shave ice is a loud, nasty, business. Surprisingly, her machine worked pretty good.

We made several hundred shave ice a couple of weeks ago for a fund raiser. I prefer the ones that uses big blocks of ice but we were only able to rent the ones that used ice cubes. What's the world coming to? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzMTExIMf7I

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That's the breaks ... <g>

Cindy Hamilton

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Jul 29, 2018, 5:14:51 PM7/29/18

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Matches up with the many, many people who refer to "ice tea".

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1

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Jul 29, 2018, 8:15:06 PM7/29/18

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The difference being that there's only one place on earth that calls it "shave ice." Folks on the mainland will call it "shaved ice" or shudder... "snow cone."

Of course, in Hawaii it's called "iced tea."

Jinx the Minx

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Jul 29, 2018, 10:17:47 PM7/29/18

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After doing a bit of online exploration today, I’m not entirely convinced
that it is ube and not taro ice cream, as it just isn’t that purple in
color and does seem to match pictures of “real” taro ice cream. I
responded before watching your video link in full. I do believe I may buy
myself some ube powder and experiment with my ice cream maker sometime
soon.

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Jul 30, 2018, 8:33:48 AM7/30/18

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The UK is unique in so many ways. A wide range of soya sauce... Who
would have believed it? Certainly not me.

Ophelia

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Jul 30, 2018, 8:50:00 AM7/30/18

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<g>

Cheri

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Jul 30, 2018, 9:06:37 AM7/30/18

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"Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's a paper cone.

Cheri

Ophelia

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Jul 30, 2018, 9:29:13 AM7/30/18

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Is it?? Oh! So they just suck ice?

Cheri

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Jul 30, 2018, 10:40:31 AM7/30/18

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"Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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It's a flavored sweet syrup poured over crushed/shaved ice. Like this but
the flavor is a choice.

https://www.amazon.com/iscream-Rainbowlicious-Strawberry-Photoreal-Microbead/dp/B06XP946WK/ref=asc_df_B06XP946WK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=216515175574&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13314178555062378785&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032454&hvtargid=pla-348453670940&psc=1

Ophelia

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Jul 30, 2018, 10:53:44 AM7/30/18

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Ahh that sounds much better, thanks:))

penm...@aol.com

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Jul 30, 2018, 11:58:28 AM7/30/18

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>"Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> news:14acd7e8-35ad-402e...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> The difference being that there's only one place on earth that calls it
>> "shave ice." Folks on the mainland will call it "shaved ice"

It's "shave ice" all over Central America, very popular with street
venders.

dsi1

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Jul 30, 2018, 2:38:28 PM7/30/18

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On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 1:13:42 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ==
>
> Do people actually eat that ice in a cone?

Yes they do. Make sure your teeth are in good shape. You might get terminal brain freeze though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold-stimulus_headache

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Jul 31, 2018, 9:03:43 AM7/31/18

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I bequeath you any and all of my share .. ;p

dsi1

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Jul 31, 2018, 10:45:32 PM7/31/18

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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 3:03:43 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> I bequeath you any and all of my share .. ;p

Thank you, that's very kind of you. This stuff originated in Japan. They are absolute masters of kakigori. The Koreans, being Asians on super hyper-drive, have their own outrageous versions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvrY7I0g1k

Julie Bove

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Aug 3, 2018, 6:46:23 AM8/3/18

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"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
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> On 7/28/2018 11:30 AM, ruk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> - If all of the above is too much work, request allopurinol from your
>> doctor. This requires daily use.
>
> I've been taking allopurinol for over 20 yrs. No side effects for me.
>
> Also, I can eat pretty much whatever I want. No gout attacks since I been
> on allopurinol. ;)

Doesn't work for everyone. I know several people who take it. They have less
attacks but still some,

Julie Bove

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Aug 3, 2018, 6:50:06 AM8/3/18

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<col...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Spinach has a lot of oxalates.

Also high in purine.

Julie Bove

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Aug 3, 2018, 6:51:12 AM8/3/18

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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 8:11:20 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> One of the local ice cream shops here makes taro ice cream and it is,
> hands
> down, my favorite flavor of ice cream there. Delish!

I've never seen taro ice cream. Taro is an awesome wonder food but it
doesn't have much of a taste. It may be ube ice cream. For some reason ube
is sometimes called "taro." Ube is a delightfully purple sweet potato and is
a popular flavor in the Philippines. I think it could make it big in the
states too. That would be cool. OTOH, taro is probably a better name for an
ice cream than ube. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm4yNGTlQOw

I've had Taro chips. Just kinda meh.

Hank Rogers

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Aug 3, 2018, 5:25:23 PM8/3/18

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If they live in Bothell, I'm sure there is no treatment that works.

David Iwaoka

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Aug 3, 2018, 7:36:53 PM8/3/18

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On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:51:12 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
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> I've had Taro chips. Just kinda meh.

I won't disagree with you there. Taro is pretty much a perfect food but that doesn't mean it can be made into an exciting salty snack. I had some taro mochi recently. It was kinda meh. For one thing, it should have been called "poi mochi" and sold to tourists.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/HHjZytyo9SowCKHqC6XiB6vjtSXQ6jAqPgf1CAKMHkl