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Julie Bove
Aug 4, 2013, 1:27:45 AM8/4/13
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The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
The other thing that bugs me is that she is using what I would call a dry
rub and calling it a marinade. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I always thought
that a marinade was a liquid.
Who is right?
have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
The other thing that bugs me is that she is using what I would call a dry
rub and calling it a marinade. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I always thought
that a marinade was a liquid.
Who is right?
Brooklyn1
Aug 4, 2013, 9:49:15 AM8/4/13
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http://media.merriam-webster.com/soundc11/m/marina02.wav
What I find annoying is when people confuse marinade(noun) with
marinate(verb).
Kalmia
Aug 4, 2013, 12:25:46 PM8/4/13
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On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
>
>
>
No more annoying than your fragmented style of writing. A phrase or word. At a time. Followed with non sequiturs. And then maybe a comment. About stuff you can't recall. But think you do. And ....and....maybe you should take a lesson. On snipping.
> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
>
>
>
I have never plonked anyone, but I'm approaching a first.
Julie Bove
Aug 4, 2013, 4:56:58 PM8/4/13
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Nancy2
Aug 4, 2013, 5:21:14 PM8/4/13
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Me, too, Shel...how can they not hear/know the difference?
N.
N.
Doris Night
Aug 4, 2013, 8:22:16 PM8/4/13
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On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
preferred pronunciation is a US thing.
How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?
Doris
Julie Bove
Aug 4, 2013, 9:06:03 PM8/4/13
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And I rarely use the word "chiffonade" I guess I would say shiff-uh-neyd.
But dictionary.com says that "nahd" is secondary.
Kalmia
Aug 4, 2013, 9:11:06 PM8/4/13
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On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd.
Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go back and look again.
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd.
MaryL
Aug 4, 2013, 11:21:43 PM8/4/13
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"Doris Night" wrote in message
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I pronounce it MAR-uh-neyd (grew up in Northeast Ohio, USA). Martha's
pronunciation sounds like it might be New England. I have never heard it
pronounced the way Julie claims is correct, so I checked a couple of the
online audio pronouncing dictionaries. Both of them used MAR-uh-neyd for
"American" pronunciation (although I think it's difficult to find one
"American" pronunciation for a great many words, given geographical
differences).
MaryL
Julie Bove
Aug 4, 2013, 11:29:44 PM8/4/13
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Julie Bove
Aug 4, 2013, 11:30:44 PM8/4/13
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the last.
graham
Aug 5, 2013, 12:21:28 AM8/5/13
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Graham
Helpful person
Aug 5, 2013, 7:10:22 AM8/5/13
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For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
http://www.richardfisher.com
http://www.richardfisher.com
Ophelia
Aug 5, 2013, 7:25:43 AM8/5/13
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Ugly!
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Pico Rico
Aug 5, 2013, 7:45:08 AM8/5/13
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"Helpful person" <rrl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made
> with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you
> sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
+1
> with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you
> sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
sf
Aug 5, 2013, 8:44:24 AM8/5/13
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
<rrl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
<rrl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
ones.
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Helpful person
Aug 5, 2013, 9:05:04 AM8/5/13
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On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:44:24 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
herd goats and cows, not to mention the cottages that herd lambs.) After all,
you are one of the most vociferous advocates of ignoring incorrect recipe
descriptions.
http://www.richardfisher.com
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
>
> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with
> > beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get
> > bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
> I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> ones.
No need to give lots of examples. (Yes, we do have lots of shepherds who now
>
> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with
> > beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get
> > bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
> I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> ones.
herd goats and cows, not to mention the cottages that herd lambs.) After all,
you are one of the most vociferous advocates of ignoring incorrect recipe
descriptions.
http://www.richardfisher.com
sf
Aug 5, 2013, 11:01:59 AM8/5/13
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people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
box.
Helpful person
Aug 5, 2013, 11:12:57 AM8/5/13
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On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:01:59 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
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> Incorrect seems to be in the eye of the beholder and some of you
> people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
> box.
>
>
Using the incorrect description is not thinking outside the box. It is lack of knowledge. Insisting that you are correct is lack of eduction. Continuing rigidly with the same ideas is pig hardheadedness.
>
> Incorrect seems to be in the eye of the beholder and some of you
> people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
> box.
>
>
Enough said.
http://www.richardfisher.com
Pico Rico
Aug 5, 2013, 11:19:09 AM8/5/13
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not quite enough. If definitions wax and wane, communication becomes more
difficult.
difficult.
Dave Smith
Aug 5, 2013, 12:03:39 PM8/5/13
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On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
Helpful person
Aug 5, 2013, 1:29:30 PM8/5/13
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On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:03:39 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
Enough said. However, it's becoming really difficult to find genuine old fashioned ploughs for the traditional ploughman's lunch.
>
> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
http://www.richardfisher.com
Julie Bove
Aug 5, 2013, 5:21:32 PM8/5/13
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syllable like that.
Julie Bove
Aug 5, 2013, 5:22:27 PM8/5/13
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accent. She says it in such a superior way.
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gloria p
Aug 5, 2013, 8:50:15 PM8/5/13
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On 8/5/2013 6:24 PM, barbie gee wrote:
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>
> I think that the "-nahd" crowd is trying to frenchie French it up, is all.
>
>
Gahd forbid you should pronounce a French word in the original style!
gloria p
>
>
> I think that the "-nahd" crowd is trying to frenchie French it up, is all.
>
>
Gahd forbid you should pronounce a French word in the original style!
gloria p
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sf
Aug 6, 2013, 1:47:42 AM8/6/13
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cah by Bahston Yahrd.
sf
Aug 6, 2013, 1:50:49 AM8/6/13
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Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
same way over there.
sf
Aug 6, 2013, 1:51:20 AM8/6/13
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Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 1:52:59 AM8/6/13
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sf wrote:
> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
I do know that after living on Cape Cod.
> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
S Viemeister
Aug 6, 2013, 8:39:31 AM8/6/13
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On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
>
Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
>
definitely _not_ the local accent.
Cindy Hamilton
Aug 6, 2013, 9:11:22 AM8/6/13
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In article <ktp4k6$eum$1...@dont-email.me>,
Not here in Michigan.
Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.
Cindy Hamilton
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Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.
Cindy Hamilton
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sf
Aug 6, 2013, 9:26:08 AM8/6/13
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she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
a very distinctive regional accent.
Ophelia
Aug 6, 2013, 9:58:24 AM8/6/13
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>>I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
>>syllable like that.
>
> Not here in Michigan.
>
> Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
>
> I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.
do you say it?
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Janet Bostwick
Aug 6, 2013, 10:04:35 AM8/6/13
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Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
(chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
Have I forgotten any?
Janet US
sf
Aug 6, 2013, 10:17:14 AM8/6/13
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he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
Ophelia
Aug 6, 2013, 10:31:13 AM8/6/13
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> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
He speaks with a London accent:) He also has a 'short tongue' which makes
him kinda lisp a bit:)
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> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
him kinda lisp a bit:)
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Dave Smith
Aug 6, 2013, 10:40:04 AM8/6/13
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On 06/08/2013 1:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
>>> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
>>> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>>
>> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
>> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
>> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
>> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
>> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
>> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
>
> Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!
?? I qualified it with reference to my English, Scottish and Irish
> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
>>> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
>>> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>>
>> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
>> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
>> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
>> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
>> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
>> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
>
> Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!
heritage, all of whom frequently cooked Shepherd's Pie, always made with
beef.
> Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
> accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
> same way over there.
with lamb live in the land where movie goers raved over the move
Brokeback Mountain and always refer to the central characters as
cowboys. In this neck of the woods, those guys would be called shepherds.
Dave Smith
Aug 6, 2013, 10:42:28 AM8/6/13
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On 06/08/2013 10:17 AM, sf wrote:
>> Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
>> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
>> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
>> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
>> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
>> Have I forgotten any?
>
> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
>
If he ever gets into the chef Olympics maybe he should qualify for the
>> Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
>> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
>> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
>> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
>> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
>> Have I forgotten any?
>
> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
>
Special Olympics? I can handle is accent and his lisp. I used to have
trouble with his enthusiasm. He was would a little too tight for my
liking. He seems to have toned it down a bit.
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 10:52:31 AM8/6/13
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just watched.
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 10:52:57 AM8/6/13
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Uh... What is a California accent?
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 10:56:01 AM8/6/13
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> Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
> Have I forgotten any?
> Janet US
I also cringe when Bobby Flay uses the word "blue" or pretty much anything
> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
> Have I forgotten any?
> Janet US
with an "l" in it. I figured out that the only way I could make my words
sound like that was to stick my tongue out when I was talking. And then I
saw him do it! His tongue did stick out when he was saying a word with an
"l" in it.
sf
Aug 6, 2013, 12:02:19 PM8/6/13
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Janet Bostwick
Aug 6, 2013, 12:57:43 PM8/6/13
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to explain further, because I can't
Janet US
Janet Bostwick
Aug 6, 2013, 1:13:43 PM8/6/13
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about everything bothers you or has something wrong with it. Why spend
the time and effort to figure out his speech? These chefs are
obviously doing something right and haven't had their career or income
harmed by minor speech issues.
Janet US
Michel Boucher
Aug 6, 2013, 1:24:07 PM8/6/13
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Janet Bostwick <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in
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>>> Uh... What is a California accent?
>>>
>>It's the no accent accent.
>
> Not strictly true . . . it's the cadence that makes it. Don't
> ask me to explain further, because I can't
divergence from the principles of enunciation.
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Cindy Hamilton
Aug 6, 2013, 2:43:51 PM8/6/13
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In article <b6cduv...@mid.individual.net>,
Mare-in-ayd. Can't keep the Midwestern U.S. out of the first syllable.
Of course, that second syllable is more of a schwa than an actual short i,
but that's probably from speaking too quickly and not clearly enough.
Of course, I find a lot of what comes out of Christopher Kimball's mouth
to be pretentious. Doesn't stop me from watching his TV show.
Cindy
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Of course, that second syllable is more of a schwa than an actual short i,
but that's probably from speaking too quickly and not clearly enough.
Of course, I find a lot of what comes out of Christopher Kimball's mouth
to be pretentious. Doesn't stop me from watching his TV show.
Cindy
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Aug 6, 2013, 2:58:34 PM8/6/13
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I've never heard of him but I know what you mean:)
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Aug 6, 2013, 3:59:34 PM8/6/13
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Graham
> In article <b6cduv...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" <hami...@adi.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>>I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
>>>>syllable like that.
>>>
>>> Not here in Michigan.
>>>
>>> Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
>>>
>>> I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.
>>
>>I suppose every place says it differently yes? We say Mar -in - ayd. How
>>do you say it?
>
> Mare-in-ayd. Can't keep the Midwestern U.S. out of the first syllable.
That's OK as long as you don't say 'erb{;-)
> Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" <hami...@adi.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>>I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
>>>>syllable like that.
>>>
>>> Not here in Michigan.
>>>
>>> Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
>>>
>>> I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.
>>
>>I suppose every place says it differently yes? We say Mar -in - ayd. How
>>do you say it?
>
> Mare-in-ayd. Can't keep the Midwestern U.S. out of the first syllable.
Graham
Gary
Aug 6, 2013, 4:00:11 PM8/6/13
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I say Mare-in-aid
And Mare-in-ate.
If that's wrong, I don't care.
G.
Gary
Aug 6, 2013, 4:08:18 PM8/6/13
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sf wrote:
>
> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
I'll have to look for more of him on tv. I've only seen him a couple
>
> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
of times and I never noticed any speech impediment that many claim
here. I've always just liked the fact that he's "let's get down to
business" personality with no gimmicks, like constant smiling, etc. He
obviously knows how to cook very well.
G.
Ophelia
Aug 6, 2013, 4:16:15 PM8/6/13
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Aug 6, 2013, 4:16:44 PM8/6/13
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Aug 6, 2013, 4:23:22 PM8/6/13
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Julie Bove wrote:
years now and I don't notice any accent when she comes to visit. Same
thing with a friend who has lived in San Diego for most of his life.
G.
>
> "sf" wrote:
> > So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
> > she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
> > a very distinctive regional accent.
>
> Uh... What is a California accent?
You've got me. My step daughter has lived in the SF area for almost 20
> "sf" wrote:
> > So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
> > she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
> > a very distinctive regional accent.
>
> Uh... What is a California accent?
years now and I don't notice any accent when she comes to visit. Same
thing with a friend who has lived in San Diego for most of his life.
G.
Gary
Aug 6, 2013, 4:25:25 PM8/6/13
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I also cringe when Bobby Flay uses the word "blue" or pretty much anything
> with an "l" in it. I figured out that the only way I could make my words
> sound like that was to stick my tongue out when I was talking. And then I
> saw him do it! His tongue did stick out when he was saying a word with an
> "l" in it.
LOL! REALLY?
>
> I also cringe when Bobby Flay uses the word "blue" or pretty much anything
> with an "l" in it. I figured out that the only way I could make my words
> sound like that was to stick my tongue out when I was talking. And then I
> saw him do it! His tongue did stick out when he was saying a word with an
> "l" in it.
G.
Gary
Aug 6, 2013, 4:28:09 PM8/6/13
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sf wrote:
meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
difference fairly easily.
G.
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> > Uh... What is a California accent?
> >
> It's the no accent accent.
I've found that many big cities have that no accent accent. It's a
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> > Uh... What is a California accent?
> >
> It's the no accent accent.
meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
difference fairly easily.
G.
Nancy Young
Aug 6, 2013, 4:49:41 PM8/6/13
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On 8/6/2013 4:28 PM, Gary wrote:
Of course, they were from Ohio. And I'm not positive it's to
brag about. Many times an accent is nice.
nancy
> sf wrote:
>> It's the no accent accent.
>
> I've found that many big cities have that no accent accent. It's a
> meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
> difference fairly easily.
Someone once told me that Ohio had the most no accent accent.
>> It's the no accent accent.
>
> I've found that many big cities have that no accent accent. It's a
> meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
> difference fairly easily.
Of course, they were from Ohio. And I'm not positive it's to
brag about. Many times an accent is nice.
nancy
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 6:04:22 PM8/6/13
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Oh. Because to me, we have no accent here. But I'll bet people who live
elsewhere think we do.
elsewhere think we do.
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 6:06:47 PM8/6/13
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> I'm not trying to be unkind, Julie, but everyone here knows that just
> about everything bothers you or has something wrong with it. Why spend
> the time and effort to figure out his speech? These chefs are
> obviously doing something right and haven't had their career or income
> harmed by minor speech issues.
I didn't say that they have been.
> about everything bothers you or has something wrong with it. Why spend
> the time and effort to figure out his speech? These chefs are
> obviously doing something right and haven't had their career or income
> harmed by minor speech issues.
Julie Bove
Aug 6, 2013, 6:28:17 PM8/6/13
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had an accent and they frequently employed people from there to do voice
things on radio and TV.
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 11:05:14 AM8/7/13
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:49:41 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
> On 8/6/2013 4:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> > sf wrote:
>
> >> It's the no accent accent.
> >
> > I've found that many big cities have that no accent accent. It's a
> > meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
> > difference fairly easily.
>
<rjynly...@vverizon.net> wrote:
> On 8/6/2013 4:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> > sf wrote:
>
> >> It's the no accent accent.
> >
> > I've found that many big cities have that no accent accent. It's a
> > meld of many. Drive out into the rural areas though and you can tell a
> > difference fairly easily.
>
> Of course, they were from Ohio. And I'm not positive it's to
> brag about. Many times an accent is nice.
>
Hollywood settled on the Ohio accent or lack of one for the
> brag about. Many times an accent is nice.
>
entertainment industry because it was easily understood by most
(English speaking) listeners. Their audience didn't have the ability
to back up and listen to it again or turn it up louder - so they had
to hear it correctly the first time.
> Someone once told me that Ohio had the most no accent accent.
>
> Of course, they were from Ohio. And I'm not positive it's to
> brag about. Many times an accent is nice.
slight. Between mumbling and full on accents, I'm glad movies on DVD
come with English subtitles these days. In RL, I can't understand
every word of FOBs with full on regional accents; even if they are
from countries where English is supposedly an official language.
--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 11:06:37 AM8/7/13
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:sf72099r0jgi9ocss...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 07:52:57 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:49s1095projrk26b8...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:39:31 -0400, S Viemeister
> >> > <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > cah by Bahston Yahrd.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
> >> >> definitely _not_ the local accent.
> >> >
> >> > So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
> >> > she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
> >> > a very distinctive regional accent.
> >>
> >> Uh... What is a California accent?
> >>
> > It's the no accent accent.
>
> Oh. Because to me, we have no accent here. But I'll bet people who live
> elsewhere think we do.
>
I called it a California accent already.
>
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:sf72099r0jgi9ocss...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 07:52:57 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:49s1095projrk26b8...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:39:31 -0400, S Viemeister
> >> > <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > cah by Bahston Yahrd.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
> >> >> definitely _not_ the local accent.
> >> >
> >> > So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
> >> > she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
> >> > a very distinctive regional accent.
> >>
> >> Uh... What is a California accent?
> >>
> > It's the no accent accent.
>
> Oh. Because to me, we have no accent here. But I'll bet people who live
> elsewhere think we do.
>
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 11:14:02 AM8/7/13
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Have you caught one of his shows where he barbecues? He has a hole in
the ground where he builds a fire and puts a grate over it to cook.
Very low tech and very, very cool.
S Viemeister
Aug 7, 2013, 12:03:33 PM8/7/13
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On 8/7/2013 11:14 AM, sf wrote:
> I like him and his shows, but his lisp drives me right up the wall.
> Have you caught one of his shows where he barbecues? He has a hole in
> the ground where he builds a fire and puts a grate over it to cook.
> Very low tech and very, very cool.
>
My Dad used to do that when we were kids. Well, he dug the hole - my
> I like him and his shows, but his lisp drives me right up the wall.
> Have you caught one of his shows where he barbecues? He has a hole in
> the ground where he builds a fire and puts a grate over it to cook.
> Very low tech and very, very cool.
>
mother did the cooking.
Dave Smith
Aug 7, 2013, 12:11:32 PM8/7/13
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On 07/08/2013 11:05 AM, sf wrote:
>
> Slight accents can be understandable, but most people don't stop at
> slight. Between mumbling and full on accents, I'm glad movies on DVD
> come with English subtitles these days. In RL, I can't understand
> every word of FOBs with full on regional accents; even if they are
> from countries where English is supposedly an official language.
>
I am always surprised by the Buffalo accent, and even more so by the
>
> Slight accents can be understandable, but most people don't stop at
> slight. Between mumbling and full on accents, I'm glad movies on DVD
> come with English subtitles these days. In RL, I can't understand
> every word of FOBs with full on regional accents; even if they are
> from countries where English is supposedly an official language.
>
Tonawanda accent. They are similar but the latter is much more pronounced.
I was surprised to hear my son's voice on the telephone when he was on
his way back after 8 months in Africa. He had been living and working in
a small town in Uganda and had been hanging out with South Africans. He
had acquired a South African accent.
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 12:33:54 PM8/7/13
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Gary
Aug 7, 2013, 1:34:55 PM8/7/13
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local state park. At low tide, you can wade out in the water, only
ankle deep and harvest oysters attached to the rocks.
One day, I had one of my best lunches ever out there. I dug a pit on
the beach and got a good fire going. Then I waded out and got about 6
nice-sized oysters. Once the fire burned down to hot coals, I set the
oysters on them and let them steam in their own shells until they
opened up. Seafood doesn't get much better than that. :-)
G.
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 1:53:41 PM8/7/13
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Dave Smith
Aug 7, 2013, 2:09:07 PM8/7/13
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On 07/08/2013 1:34 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> One day, I had one of my best lunches ever out there. I dug a pit on
> the beach and got a good fire going. Then I waded out and got about 6
> nice-sized oysters. Once the fire burned down to hot coals, I set the
> oysters on them and let them steam in their own shells until they
> opened up. Seafood doesn't get much better than that. :-)
>
>
Fresh oysters? What was the fire for? Lemon juice and dash of Tabasco
>
> One day, I had one of my best lunches ever out there. I dug a pit on
> the beach and got a good fire going. Then I waded out and got about 6
> nice-sized oysters. Once the fire burned down to hot coals, I set the
> oysters on them and let them steam in their own shells until they
> opened up. Seafood doesn't get much better than that. :-)
>
>
would have done it.
sf
Aug 7, 2013, 2:48:51 PM8/7/13
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Pry open and dress. My son makes garlicky melted butter to use, then
you squeeze a slice of lemon on it and add a dash of hot sauce. Gary
was on the beach, so his were very simple bbq'd oysters.
Julie Bove
Aug 7, 2013, 2:58:20 PM8/7/13
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One thing I have noticed recently on commercials that drives me nuts is
people seemingly deliberately mis-pronouncing things. I think they do this
so that it makes you pay a little more attention. For instance, saying
pronouncing the word "college" with a short "a" instead of the "o" I have
heard that one a lot.
people seemingly deliberately mis-pronouncing things. I think they do this
so that it makes you pay a little more attention. For instance, saying
pronouncing the word "college" with a short "a" instead of the "o" I have
heard that one a lot.
Gary
Aug 7, 2013, 4:23:12 PM8/7/13
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oysters, I suppose. I don't eat oysters raw and the lemon juice is
not real cooking to me. Try my method sometime then get back to me.
No need for tabasco either....just fresh cooked in their shells in
their own salty liquid. yum. :-D
Dave Smith
Aug 7, 2013, 4:33:30 PM8/7/13
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On 07/08/2013 4:23 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Fresh oysters? What was the fire for? Lemon juice and dash of Tabasco
>> would have done it.
>
> You even ask that? You've never had fresh, steamed in their shell
> oysters, I suppose. I don't eat oysters raw and the lemon juice is
> not real cooking to me. Try my method sometime then get back to me.
> No need for tabasco either....just fresh cooked in their shells in
> their own salty liquid. yum. :-D
>
I like them raw. I figured that the fresher they are the better they
>> Fresh oysters? What was the fire for? Lemon juice and dash of Tabasco
>> would have done it.
>
> You even ask that? You've never had fresh, steamed in their shell
> oysters, I suppose. I don't eat oysters raw and the lemon juice is
> not real cooking to me. Try my method sometime then get back to me.
> No need for tabasco either....just fresh cooked in their shells in
> their own salty liquid. yum. :-D
>
would be.
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