Justin Wilson's Macaroni & Cheese

[Becca]

A few days ago, we were discussing eggs in mac & cheese recipes.
Glancing through Justin Wilson's cookbook, I noticed that his recipe
uses eggs, as well as onion and bell pepper. I have not tried this
recipe, but if someone cooked it, I would enjoy trying it.

Becca

Justin Wilson's Macaroni & Cheese

1 pound macaroni, cooked and drained
1 cup grated cheddar cheese
½ cup grated Romano or Parmesan cheese
½ cup chopped onion
½ cup chopped bell pepper (if you wish)
½ cup dry white wine
2 medium size eggs
1 tablespoon prepared mustard
Louisiana hot sauce or ground cayenne pepper to taste
1 tablespoon olive oil

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Grease a 9 by 12 inch casserole dish.

In a large bowl, combine the cooked macaroni, cheddar cheese, half the
Romano cheese, and set aside.

Put olive oil in a medium-sized saucepan and sauté the onions and bell
pepper over medium high heat until the onions are clear.

In a separate bowl, beat the eggs and then add wine, mustard, salt, and
hot sauce or ground cayenne pepper – mix well.

Add the egg mixture and sautéed onion/pepper mixture to the macaroni and
mix well.

Pour into the casserole dish, top with remaining half of the Romano
cheese, and bake for 45 minutes, until the top is crusty and slightly brown.

Yield is 10 servings.

[Sheldon]

On Oct 11, 3:01 pm, Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> A few days ago, we were discussing eggs in mac & cheese recipes.
> Glancing through Justin Wilson's cookbook, I noticed that his recipe
> uses eggs, as well as onion and bell pepper. I have not tried this
> recipe, but if someone cooked it, I would enjoy trying it.
>
> Becca
>
> Justin Wilson's Macaroni & Cheese
>
> 1 pound macaroni, cooked and drained
> 1 cup grated cheddar cheese
> ½ cup grated Romano or Parmesan cheese
> ½ cup chopped onion
> ½ cup chopped bell pepper (if you wish)
> ½ cup dry white wine
> 2 medium size eggs
> 1 tablespoon prepared mustard
> Louisiana hot sauce or ground cayenne pepper to taste
> 1 tablespoon olive oil
>
> Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Grease a 9 by 12 inch casserole dish.
>
> In a large bowl, combine the cooked macaroni, cheddar cheese, half the
> Romano cheese, and set aside.
>
> Put olive oil in a medium-sized saucepan and sauté the onions and bell
> pepper over medium high heat until the onions are clear.
>
> In a separate bowl, beat the eggs and then add wine, mustard, salt, and

> hot sauce or ground cayenne pepper - mix well.

>
> Add the egg mixture and sautéed onion/pepper mixture to the macaroni and
> mix well.
>
> Pour into the casserole dish, top with remaining half of the Romano
> cheese, and bake for 45 minutes, until the top is crusty and slightly brown.
>
> Yield is 10 servings.

I would prepare a half recipe to try it out. Somehow I think it needs
more liquid... unless you want a thick/firm custard pudding texture it
should start with a bechemel sauce.

[Paul M. Cook]

"Becca" <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:5n7a5uF...@mid.individual.net...

I'm sure it will be great, but with the eggs it will be more like a loaf
than a sauce. I'd expect it to be really firm. And you can always cut it
in squares, egg and bread crumb it and fry it. Now that's a treat!

Paul

[Goomba38]

Paul M. Cook wrote:

> I'm sure it will be great, but with the eggs it will be more like a loaf
> than a sauce. I'd expect it to be really firm. And you can always cut it
> in squares, egg and bread crumb it and fry it. Now that's a treat!
>
> Paul
>

A pizza joint near me (so-so pizza, IMO, but they do have 53 or more
beers on draft as well as a larger bottle selection) serves "deep fried
mac and cheese" squares on their munchies menu.

[jmcquown]

Is this like deep fried Mars bars? LOL What's next, deep fried Rice Crispy
Squares?

Jill

[Goomba38]

jmcquown wrote:

>> A pizza joint near me (so-so pizza, IMO, but they do have 53 or more
>> beers on draft as well as a larger bottle selection) serves "deep
>> fried mac and cheese" squares on their munchies menu.
>
> Is this like deep fried Mars bars? LOL What's next, deep fried Rice Crispy
> Squares?
>
> Jill

No...mars bars are chocolate candy bars deep fried. I believe they're
done for the "freaky" factor of it.
Fried mac and cheese are more like croquettes. It didn't taste bad, or
odd, it just wasn't that remarkable.

[exodu...@gmail.com]

[exodu...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:01:55 PM UTC-4, Becca wrote:

Having made this for many yrs after watching the famous Justin Wilson do it on t.v., the following are the changes to the above recipe; 2 packs of 12 oz. macaroni, olive oil(on sides and bottom of 9x13 baking dish; layer cooked al dente macaroni w/following cheeses divided up: 2 1/2 cups grated American cheese and 1/2 cup Romano or Parmesan. Keep making a few layers; then, top the layers w/layer of Swiss cheese slices. Then, as Justin says, "beat the delight out of 6 eggs, Add sauterne(I use Riesling if can't find sauterne) to the egg mixture; then, 1 1/2 tsp or more to taste of Louisiana Green Hot Sauce, 1/2 Tbs Worcestershire sauce and pour on top; then,add water to top of dish; alternatively I have added more of the wine to the top. Bake@350 for 45 min., or more, til browned. You can, as Justin said, cut up the left over squares and serve as hors devours w/toothpicks COLD! Miss that guy so much.

[Nancy2]

I think deep fried Mac and cheese has been on state fair menus for a few years now....

N.

[randy...@gmail.com]

Becca, this is a great Mac n cheese .only thing is that it is a drier version but flavor is great

Randy

[jmcquown]

Talk about dredging up old posts! 2007, no less. :)

Just for the sake of discussion (yet again) I never have added eggs to
macaroni & cheese.

Jill

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:19:24 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> Talk about dredging up old posts! 2007, no less. :)
>
>
>
> Just for the sake of discussion (yet again) I never have added eggs to
>
> macaroni & cheese.
>

Me neither, but egg *yolk* I could see. Whole egg? Obviously this Wilson
fellow is a pig.
>
> Jill

>
>
> >> Justin Wilson's Macaroni & Cheese
>
> >>
>
> >> 1 pound macaroni, cooked and drained
>
> >> 1 cup grated cheddar cheese
>
> >> ½ cup grated Romano or Parmesan cheese
>
> >> ½ cup chopped onion
>
> >> ½ cup chopped bell pepper (if you wish)
>
> >> ½ cup dry white wine
>
> >> 2 medium size eggs
>
> >> 1 tablespoon prepared mustard
>
> >> Louisiana hot sauce or ground cayenne pepper to taste
>
> >> 1 tablespoon olive oil
>

--B

[notbob]

On 2014-02-13, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Talk about dredging up old posts! 2007, no less. :)
>
> Just for the sake of discussion (yet again) I never have added eggs to
> macaroni & cheese.

He needed something to thicken the wht wine, which he put in
everything. Almost as much as he put in himself whenever cooking. ;)

nb

[ImStillMags]

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>
>
> He was the show :)


I loved his "stories" and jokes. And I loved how he said a recipe would feed 6 people or 2 Cajuns.

[ImStillMags]

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:23:38 PM UTC-8, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

This is my all time favorite Justin Wilson Joke.

"Little Thibodaux was walking down a dirt road carring a dead Hawk a Yankee drove up beside Little Thibodaux and ask boy "where you going with that Hawk?" Little Thibodaux said to the Yankee "gona make me some Gumbo". The Yankee ask "well what does Hawk Gumbo taste like?" Little Thibodaux said "bout like Owl............"

[Janet Bostwick]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:19:24 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Talk about dredging up old posts! 2007, no less. :)
>
>Just for the sake of discussion (yet again) I never have added eggs to
>macaroni & cheese.
>
>Jill
>

SNIP
I tried mac & cheese once with egg. I prefer not to do so again
because I could taste the egg. It was a distracting flavor. Otherwise
there was nothing wrong with it. It is the way to get those solid
squares of leftovers to fry the next day if you are so inclined.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

This is a fun video of him making chicken & sausage gumbo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4umRMJlrs

Jill

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:37:17 PM UTC-6, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:19:24 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Talk about dredging up old posts! 2007, no less. :)
>
> >
>
> >Just for the sake of discussion (yet again) I never have added eggs to
>
> >macaroni & cheese.
>
> >
>
> >Jill
>
> >
>
> SNIP
>
> I tried mac & cheese once with egg. I prefer not to do so again
>
> because I could taste the egg. It was a distracting flavor.
>

Egg yolk might even be enhancing, but there are a lot of applications that
are that way. Egg whites, and even more so, whole eggs, have far fewer uses.
>
> Janet US

--B

[jmcquown]

I suppose that's true, Janet. ;) I've never fried leftover macaroni &
cheese. I don't plant to start now.

There were some posters back in those days who swore by egg in mac &
cheese. They were always quoting this or that celebrity chef. I don't
give a hoot what cookbook you got it from. Macaroni & cheese is, and
should be, a fairly simple but tasty dish. :)

Jill

[Nancy2]

Mac and cheese doesn't need eggs at all. They serve no purpose whatsoever. There is absolutely
no reason to put eggs in, they just add calories and fat.

N.

[sf]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:33:10 -0400, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> Lol - he was a delightful person, I watched his show even though I
> never cooked a damn thing he ever showed.

Me too. I even have his cookbook, but I haven't cooked from it
either.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

[Janet]

In article <3b4e548b-132c-47b3...@googlegroups.com>,
ellor...@gmail.com says...

>
> Mac and cheese doesn't need eggs at all. They serve no purpose whatsoever. There is absolutely
> no reason to put eggs in, they just add calories and fat.

Eggs also provide protein and iron among other important minerals and
vitamins for good health. Some people NEED extra calories, protein and
iron in their diet. Especially older people.

When my kids were growing, if I was making macaroni cheese it contained
a layer of halved hardboiled eggs. One egg per person.

Janet UK

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:12:07 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article <3b4e548b-132c-47b3...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> ellor...@gmail.com says...
>
> >
>
> > Mac and cheese doesn't need eggs at all. They serve no purpose
> > whatsoever. There is absolutely no reason to put eggs in, they
> > just add calories and fat.
>

Eggs are good for you. The nutritionally bad ingredient is the macaroni.

>
> Eggs also provide protein and iron among other important minerals and
>
> vitamins for good health. Some people NEED extra calories, protein and
>
> iron in their diet. Especially older people.
>

Eggs are healthful.

>
> When my kids were growing, if I was making macaroni cheese it contained
>
> a layer of halved hardboiled eggs. One egg per person.
>

Ewww. Did your kids hate it? Do they hate you now for having done that
to them? Did you make them take cod liver oil too? Do British children
grow up with low expectations of food, or is that an invalid stereotype? :)
>
> Janet UK

--B

[Brooklyn1]

Nancy2 wrote:
>
>Mac and cheese doesn't need eggs at all. They serve no purpose whatsoever. There is absolutely
>no reason to put eggs in, they just add calories and fat.

A mac n' cheese fritatta is excellent!

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:33:10 PM UTC-6, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:30:03 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>

> Lol - he was a delightful person, I watched his show even though I
>
> never cooked a damn thing he ever showed.

Just watched a video of the slob making chicken gumbo where he handled raw chicken, and without washing his hands, handled various other things,
including the salt canister.

--B

[Janet Bostwick]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:22:16 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip

>
>Just watched a video of the slob making chicken gumbo where he handled raw chicken,
and without washing his hands, handled various other things,
>including the salt canister.
>
>--B

Cross contamination wasn't a buzz word on the horizon when he filmed
those shows
Janet US

[jmcquown]

On 2/14/2014 9:33 AM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:22:16 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>

>> Just watched a video of the slob making chicken gumbo where he handled raw chicken, and without washing his hands, handled various other things,
>> including the salt canister.
>>
>> --B
>

> Who cares ? I am still alive and I am no more careful than him.
> Haven't you read about how all this extreme hygene is actually
> lowering peoples resistance to common bacteria ??
>
But, but... it's not in Bryan's "bible" of how you should be cooking or
what you should be eating! I guar-on-tee Justin Wilson didn't care
about high oleic oils, yet he lived to be 87. Not bad for a "slob". :)

Wait for it, he'll call me a c*** again. LOL

Jill

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:33:01 AM UTC-6, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:22:16 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
>

> Who cares ? I am still alive and I am no more careful than him.
>
> Haven't you read about how all this extreme hygene is actually
>
> lowering peoples resistance to common bacteria ??

You probably don't believe in that nonsense about washing your hands
after using the toilet either. I think I'd rather not eat at your place.

--B

[Janet]

In article <31e1bb15-eec5-4f52...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:12:07 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > In article <3b4e548b-132c-47b3...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > ellor...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Mac and cheese doesn't need eggs at all. They serve no purpose
> > > whatsoever. There is absolutely no reason to put eggs in, they
> > > just add calories and fat.
> >
> Eggs are good for you. The nutritionally bad ingredient is the macaroni.
> >
> > Eggs also provide protein and iron among other important minerals and
> >
> > vitamins for good health. Some people NEED extra calories, protein and
> >
> > iron in their diet. Especially older people.
> >
> Eggs are healthful.
> >
> > When my kids were growing, if I was making macaroni cheese it contained
> >
> > a layer of halved hardboiled eggs. One egg per person.
> >
> Ewww. Did your kids hate it?

No, they loved it.

> Do they hate you now for having done that
> to them?

No

> Did you make them take cod liver oil too?

No need to make them; they willingly took codliver oil because someone
told them professional athletes do... and they were (and still are) very
active sportsmen... football, ski-ing, cycling and running. You should
get some capsules for your boy.

> Do British children
> grow up with low expectations of food, or is that an invalid
>stereotype?

Not mine, so yes.

You're the one who just posted his picky kid often complains he doesn't
like his dinner. Is that because he's American, or because you're not
much of a cook?

Janet UK

[sf]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:33:01 -0400, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> >
> >Just watched a video of the slob making chicken gumbo where he handled raw chicken, and without washing his hands, handled various other things,
> >including the salt canister.
> >
> >--B
>

> Who cares ? I am still alive and I am no more careful than him.
> Haven't you read about how all this extreme hygene is actually
> lowering peoples resistance to common bacteria ??

I am more careful these days than I used to be, but I'm by no means as
hypo-attentive as a lot of people here seem to be. Frankly, I highly
doubt they are either unless they're working in a professional
environment where they are required to by law.

[sf]

Ya think? ;)

[Bryan-TGWWW]

I bet he used a lot of lard, which is very low in polyunsaturates, and guess what fatty acid comprises almost half of the total fatty acids.

>
> Wait for it, he'll call me a c*** again. LOL
>

That was someone else who called you a cunt. It would be out of character
for me to associate female genitalia with an insult.
>
> Jill

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:34:51 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:33:01 -0400, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>
>
>
> > >
>
> > >Just watched a video of the slob making chicken gumbo where he handled raw chicken, and without washing his hands, handled various other things,
>
> > >including the salt canister.
>
> > >
>
> > >--B
>
> >
>
> > Who cares ? I am still alive and I am no more careful than him.
>
> > Haven't you read about how all this extreme hygene is actually
>
> > lowering peoples resistance to common bacteria ??
>
>
>
> I am more careful these days than I used to be, but I'm by no means as
>
> hypo-attentive as a lot of people here seem to be.

HypER, not hypO.

>Frankly, I highly
>
> doubt they are either unless they're working in a professional
>
> environment where they are required to by law.
>

I looked it up, and it seems the show was from 1981. I grew up knowing
that poultry was different than beef, which I ate raw as a teenager,
mid-1970s.
>
--B

[notbob]

On 2014-02-14, Janet Bostwick <nos...@cableone.net> wrote:

> Cross contamination wasn't a buzz word on the horizon when he filmed
> those shows

Prolly cuz it wasn't a problem then cuz producers had yet to cut every
imaginable sanitation expense to the bone and the USDA had yet to be
co-opted by the industry. Easier to medicate the animals and radiate
the food than actually clean up the process.

nb

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:33:59 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article <31e1bb15-eec5-4f52...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> bryang...@gmail.com says...

>
> > Did you make them take cod liver oil too?
>
> No need to make them; they willingly took codliver oil because someone
>
> told them professional athletes do... and they were (and still are) very
>
> active sportsmen... football, ski-ing, cycling and running. You should
>
> get some capsules for your boy.
>
>

He won't swallow capsules. A few years ago he choked on an M&M, and he
refuses to even try.

>
>
> > Do British children
>
> > grow up with low expectations of food, or is that an invalid
>
> >stereotype?
>

You, or your newsreader removed the smiley.

>
> Not mine, so yes.
>
>
>
> You're the one who just posted his picky kid often complains he doesn't
>
> like his dinner. Is that because he's American, or because you're not
>
> much of a cook?
>

It's not my cooking. I'm kind of at the other extreme from you. I don't
buy him huge amounts of crap food, but I'm pretty loose. He almost never
has sugar soda, but he does eat a lot of sugary breakfast cereal, and we
don't ever make him, or even pressure him to eat anything. He is required
to sit at the dinner table with us, but what he eats is his choice.

There's not an ounce of fat on him, and while thin, he is the strongest
kid in his school. I was a picky kid too, and hated my father for making
me eat things I hated.
>
> Janet UK

--B

[Ophelia]

<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote in message
news:rttsf95dolb0jmina...@4ax.com...

> Seems there is an unfortunate woman married to him, then I remembered,
> she must have agreed so no sympathy there.

ewwwwww:(


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[sf]

I doubt he's married. Probably moved in with his mother.

[Ophelia]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:ns3tf95h219skbo4f...@4ax.com...

Poor woman:(


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 2:12:46 PM UTC-6, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:03:03 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW

> Like you would ever be asked - in a pig's eye!

I notice you didn't answer about washing your hands after using the toilet.
Nasty.

--B

[Gary]

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> I notice you didn't answer about washing your hands after using the toilet.
> Nasty.

<old joke variation>
Here in Virginia we learned not to piss on our hands. ;)

G.

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 3:50:36 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>
>
> I doubt he's married.
>

You silly. You're actually talking about me. I've not only been married
for coming up on 28 years this April, but I have one fine wife, and we're
all gaga in love. Isn't she a doll?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/11701860706/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11634545806/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11633983503/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/8254284103/
We just can't keep our hands off each other.

Good looking son too.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/

Nice garden.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/6969807006/lightbox/
Life is good.

> Probably moved in with his mother.

I had moved back in with my mother (paying room and board of course),
and was living there when I met my wife. I'm glad she lived long enough
to see me married to my wife. She died a few months later. You're read
all of this before. Are you just trying to pal up with the other old
ladies here by jumping on the "fun to hate Bryan" train? You do realize
that that's pathetic, right?

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:02:11 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>
>

> > I doubt he's married. Probably moved in with his mother.
>
>
>
> Poor woman:(
>

Yeah. I mean who'd want to be kissed awake nearly every morning? Oh,
and be brought a steaming cup of cafe au lait, and then a refill? This
morning I fresh squeezed her tangerine juice, then made her a scramble with fresh mushrooms sauteed in butter, eggs and cheddar cheese. Gotta suck to
be her, doesn't it?

And God, all the full body massages. What woman would want that? You
should consider yourself very fortunate not having to put up with a guy
who'd rather spend a half hour kissing your feet, than something normal
like watching sports.

I adore her, and I'm so glad that she's willing to put up with all of
the above.

--B

[Janet Bostwick]

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:50:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip

>Good looking son too.
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/
>

snip
>
>--B

Nice boy. What is the hunk of meat that is being carved?
Janet US

[Nancy2]

There are lots of ways to have eggs in the diet without throwing them unnecessarily into macaroni and cheese.

N.

[Gary]

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> There are lots of ways to have eggs in the diet without throwing them unnecessarily into macaroni and cheese.

I rarely eat mac and cheese but for eggs, I agree with you. No eggs
necessary. Mac and cheese is good if made from scratch (and Velvetta)
but the boxed stuff is cardboard trailertrash food.

Dinner last night was 2 fried egg sandwiches.

- 2 pieces of buttered toast (to start with)
- one slice of american cheese or swiss, tear into 4 equal strips,
and 2 strips on each piece of toast. (ie - 1/2 slice on each)
- fry 2 eggs over easy, then break the yolks and flip over one more
time. Goal is to have semi-juicy eggs
- put one on each of the toast pieces
- add some salt and plenty of cracked pepper to each
- on one sandwich, add lots of ketchup. I eat that one last...
it's my "dessert" sandwich
- Top with the other 2 pieces of buttered toast.

*note* - some cooked and crumbled bacon would be good on these but I
rarely cook bacon. I wonder why too as I absolutely love bacon. I
think I'll buy some tomorrow morning. yeah, yeah! :-D

G.

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:25:53 AM UTC-6, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:08:08 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW

> Puke - sounds like you are a total groveller -

A lot of women really would feel that way. I am a bit over the top, but
I make the effort not to give her unwanted attention. Luckily, little
is unwanted. When I was younger, I was a bit more traditionally
masculine/male dominant, but relationships evolve, and she accepts that I
really derive more life satisfaction from my devotion to her than from
anything else. I'm not a groveler in any sense, but I'd accept doter.

> I still feel she deserves pity having your around.

She loves having me around. If the book is successful money-wise, she
wants me to be a full time writer because she loves having me around.
She said exactly that a few hours ago.

I'm not perfect though. If you asked her if there was anything she'd
change about me if she had a magic wand, there is 100% certainty that
she would wish that I drank less or no beer.

> If it is all that wonderful, how come it took all those years to
> produce one kid and that's all lol

It was by choice. First she was in college, then she was in graduate
school. Then I was kind of half-assed doing college, while working
full time, and we were having a great time. If you are suggesting that the lack of children implies "trouble in Candyland," I might remind you of the
existence of oral contraceptives.

We had been married for 12 years when we stopped using birth control,
and after one miscarriage, my son was born when we'd been married 15
years. When he was 3 we asked him if he'd like a little brother or sister,
and he said, "No." The pregnancy had been not without complications, and
my son's preference was the deciding factor, so it was vasectomy time.

I think I've answered your questions adequately.

--B

[jmcquown]

On 2/15/2014 11:33 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> There are lots of ways to have eggs in the diet without throwing them unnecessarily into macaroni and cheese.
>
> N.
>

Hear hear! :)

Jill

[Bryan-TGWWW]

A whole pig. This was my nephew's wedding reception.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3498485624/
>
> Janet US

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

And to be careful when a-usin the corn cob.
>
> G.

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

It's worse now, but salmonella is a natural gut bacteria in birds and reptiles.
If you've ever had the kind of food poisoning I got once from improper chicken
handling, you'd be really careful. Luckily, it was over fairly quickly, just
a few hours, but the pain was big time, and the first hour coincided with me
having to hike up a few hundred feet of elevation on an old gravel road. It
wasn't exactly this hike, but one much like it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/10535831346/

That map shows one of two places on the Current River where an oxbow means that
one can float much further than the walk to shuttle. Nice walks if done when
you don't feel like someone is jabbing you repeatedly in the lower abdomen
with an ice pick.
>
> nb

--B

[Janet]

In article <77824936-8c88-485e...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

> I'm not perfect though. If you asked her if there was anything she'd
> change about me if she had a magic wand, there is 100% certainty that
> she would wish that I drank less or no beer.

You continually assert how much you dote, adore and attend to her;
yet you don't do the very thing you know she wants (stop boozing).??

Another thing any wife might appreciate, is some privacy
and discretion about her personal life.

Janet UK

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:32:51 PM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article <77824936-8c88-485e...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> bryang...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > I'm not perfect though. If you asked her if there was anything she'd
>
> > change about me if she had a magic wand, there is 100% certainty that
>
> > she would wish that I drank less or no beer.
>
>
>
> You continually assert how much you dote, adore and attend to her;
>
> yet you don't do the very thing you know she wants (stop boozing).??
>

Hey, my one thing I'd change about her is that she'd become a
practicing bisexual, and have two girl sex with me. I'd like that
better than she would like me not drinking beer.

If you have some moral bullshit that you want to inject into the above, go ahead. Neither thing is morally right, nor morally wrong. I'm sorry if
you've had an alcoholic who has damaged you, as your use of the word,
"boozing" suggests. I'm not a mean or crazy drunk. I just drink beer
most evenings. I don't drink straight liquor, don't drink and drive, don't drink before or at work, etc.

>
> Another thing any wife might appreciate, is some privacy
>
> and discretion about her personal life.
>

I know what she finds too personal, and have revealed absolutely nothing
that is not already widely known, including that she--who doesn't drink
at all--would prefer that I drink less beer. Geez.
>
> Janet UK

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:51:40 PM UTC-6, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> He seems to think he is wonderful - that would be number one thing
>
> that would put me off pronto.

I know my strengths, and try to play to them. I also admit my weaknesses.
I think I've done that here a few times today.

> Thankfully David was never like that,
>
> we both knew we needed respect of each other and some distances
>
> allowing both of us to be our own persons.
>
We don't like much distance. See, I wouldn't be wonderful for someone like
you. We'd be mismatched. You might appreciate coffee in bed almost every morning, but you'd probably get very tired of getting kissed on quite a few times a day, almost every day, and you'd want personal space. The truth is this, most women want more non-sexual physical affection than they get, but I do know that most would not want a guy who is as touchy-feely as me. There is a point at which even my wife, who loves back rubs, etc. would say, "That's enough." I know, can sense where that point is, and so that never happens.
>
> Bryan comes over to me in his posts in very much the same way as that
>
> man on Sister Wives -

We don't watch TV, but is that a show where a guy has more than one wife?
Yes, I'd like that. Not going to get it, but...

You know, I have enough interest/inspiration, and John K--who has essentially
no partner sex--likes to paint me as someone who objectifies women, a horndog
who only cares about getting laid, but he's *so* far off base. I've had less
than my share of cheap sex, because I crave the love component, the emotional
connection, so much so that most guys would find it absurd. I'm more a
lesbian in a man's body than a man's man.

Now, I think I'll get back to the romance novel. I wrote ten days in a row,
but skipped yesterday because I'm physically ill--nasty bronchitis. Feel
free to have whatever opinion you have of me, and to think that I have too
high an opinion of myself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpGEeneO-t0

--B

[White Spirit]

On 14/02/14 13:12, Janet wrote:

> Eggs also provide protein and iron among other important minerals and
> vitamins for good health. Some people NEED extra calories, protein and
> iron in their diet. Especially older people.

Particularly you, Gannet. We wouldn't want you to waste away.

[Janet]

In article <6abbe080-772c-444c...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:32:51 PM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > In article <77824936-8c88-485e...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > bryang...@gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm not perfect though. If you asked her if there was anything she'd
> >
> > > change about me if she had a magic wand, there is 100% certainty that
> >
> > > she would wish that I drank less or no beer.
> >
> >
> >
> > You continually assert how much you dote, adore and attend to her;
> >
> > yet you don't do the very thing you know she wants (stop boozing).??
> >
> Hey, my one thing I'd change about her is that she'd become a
> practicing bisexual, and have two girl sex with me. I'd like that
> better than she would like me not drinking beer.

Roll back a bit. I'm not talking about what YOU want. Just, if you're
so madly in love with a woman you adore and want to please in all ways..
why don't you. Not, in exchange for two-girl sex. Not, so you can brag
about it here. Just for her sake because she would like you to stop.

>
> I'm not a mean or crazy drunk. I just drink beer
> most evenings.

Could it be, she has a different opinion of what you're like after a
few beers? If you're so unaffected by it, why would she want you "to
drink LESS or NO beer". ?

> > Another thing any wife might appreciate, is some privacy
> > and discretion about her personal life.
> >
> I know what she finds too personal, and have revealed absolutely nothing
> that is not already widely known,

to whom? your son, his teen mates? what's widely known among people
she chooses to inform, is somewhat different from you parading it on
usenet to glorify yourself.

Janet UK

[jmcquown]

On 2/15/2014 6:13 PM, Janet wrote:
> Could it be, she has a different opinion of what you're like after a
> few beers? If you're so unaffected by it, why would she want you "to
> drink LESS or NO beer". ?
>

> Janet UK
>
+1 Janet! I know some perfectly nice people who, after they get a few
beers under their belt, turn into perfect jackasses.

Jill

[Cheryl]

Other than the ketchup, that's how I made my egg sandwiches. Yum yum.

--
ღ.¸¸.✫*¨`*✶
Cheryl

[Gary]

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> You silly. You're actually talking about me. I've not only been married
> for coming up on 28 years this April, but I have one fine wife, and we're
> all gaga in love. Isn't she a doll?
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/11701860706/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11634545806/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11633983503/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/8254284103/
> We just can't keep our hands off each other.
>
> Good looking son too.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/

Thanks for posting all these pictures, Bryan. Your wife is very pretty
and she just looks like a nice person too. Your son also looks very
cool!

I wish everyone here would post current pictures of themselves. I love
all photos and it's nice to see a pic of who I write to. In the "mug
shots" on the rfc unofficial page, many of you have pictures there but
mostly very old, outdated ones.

Maybe we can all post a recent pic but I don't know if that webpage is
still maintained. Is it Cindy or Chatty Cathy that is in charge of it?

I posted a pic of myself from my daughter's wedding that was 3-4 years
ago. Those that were paying attention then saw it.

G.

G

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:09:51 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/15/2014 6:13 PM, Janet wrote:
>
> > Could it be, she has a different opinion of what you're like after a
>
> > few beers? If you're so unaffected by it, why would she want you "to
>
> > drink LESS or NO beer". ?
>

She worries about the health effects more than anything, and I didn't say
unaffected. I said not "mean or crazy." Like I said, I'd give good odds
that you have a chip on your shoulder about drinking. Maybe a drunken
step-daddy got a little handsy? Maybe a little more than handsy?

Do they have Al-Anon over there?

>
> > Janet UK
>
> >
>
> +1 Janet! I know some perfectly nice people who, after they get a few
>
> beers under their belt, turn into perfect jackasses.
>

It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober (see above), but alcohol
turns me into a softie. I would abstain for 24-36 hours before The Bonobos'
shows so I'd better be able to radiate violent rage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SStEMsI4lqk

So, now you know someone whose sober self you'd describe as a jackass,
who at least claims to become much nicer after a few beers.
>
> Jill

--B

[jmcquown]

On 2/16/2014 9:39 AM, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> You silly. You're actually talking about me. I've not only been married
>> for coming up on 28 years this April, but I have one fine wife, and we're
>> all gaga in love. Isn't she a doll?

>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/8254284103/

>>
>> Good looking son too.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/
>
> Thanks for posting all these pictures, Bryan. Your wife is very pretty
> and she just looks like a nice person too. Your son also looks very
> cool!
>
> I wish everyone here would post current pictures of themselves. I love
> all photos and it's nice to see a pic of who I write to. In the "mug
> shots" on the rfc unofficial page, many of you have pictures there but
> mostly very old, outdated ones.
>

Hmmm, I could take a picture of me taking a picture of myself. ;)

> Maybe we can all post a recent pic but I don't know if that webpage is
> still maintained. Is it Cindy or Chatty Cathy that is in charge of it?
>

Chatty Cathy has been putting the surveys on the site, haven't you noticed?

> I posted a pic of myself from my daughter's wedding that was 3-4 years
> ago. Those that were paying attention then saw it.
>
> G.
>

I regret to say if I did see it I sure don't remember it. :(

Jill

[Janet]

In article <459d267a-1116-455a...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:09:51 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 2/15/2014 6:13 PM, Janet wrote:
> >
> > > Could it be, she has a different opinion of what you're like after a
> >
> > > few beers? If you're so unaffected by it, why would she want you "to
> >
> > > drink LESS or NO beer". ?
> >
> She worries about the health effects more than anything, and I didn't say

> unaffected. I said not "mean or crazy." <....>

> It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober.

If (in your belief) you're nicer drunk than sober, it's pretty hard
to square that with why she wants you to drink less or no beer.

Call it the Bove effect. There's a level of blinkered self-
delusion/inconsistency here.

Janet UK.

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:12:17 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article <459d267a-1116-455a...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> bryang...@gmail.com says...
>
> >
>
> > On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:09:51 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > > On 2/15/2014 6:13 PM, Janet wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > Could it be, she has a different opinion of what you're like after a
>
> > >
>
> > > > few beers? If you're so unaffected by it, why would she want you "to
>
> > >
>
> > > > drink LESS or NO beer". ?
>
> > >
>
> > She worries about the health effects more than anything, and I didn't say
>
> > unaffected. I said not "mean or crazy." <....>
>
>
>
> > It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober.
>
>
>
> If (in your belief) you're nicer drunk than sober, it's pretty hard
>
> to square that with why she wants you to drink less or no beer.
>

I'm nice to *her* either way.

>
> Call it the Bove effect. There's a level of blinkered self-
>
> delusion/inconsistency here.
>

There's a level of "I've been damaged by an alcoholic" in your posts. Was I
right? Bad touching?
>
> Janet UK.

--B

[Ophelia]

"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:5300CDB3...@att.net...

> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> You silly. You're actually talking about me. I've not only been married
>> for coming up on 28 years this April, but I have one fine wife, and we're
>> all gaga in love. Isn't she a doll?
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/11701860706/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11634545806/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11633983503/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/8254284103/
>> We just can't keep our hands off each other.
>>
>> Good looking son too.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/
>
> Thanks for posting all these pictures, Bryan. Your wife is very pretty
> and she just looks like a nice person too. Your son also looks very
> cool!
>
> I wish everyone here would post current pictures of themselves. I love
> all photos and it's nice to see a pic of who I write to. In the "mug
> shots" on the rfc unofficial page, many of you have pictures there but
> mostly very old, outdated ones.
>
> Maybe we can all post a recent pic but I don't know if that webpage is
> still maintained. Is it Cindy or Chatty Cathy that is in charge of it?

Our Chatty Cathy of course:))


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[sf]

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:56:28 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> I could take a picture of me taking a picture of myself. ;)

That's called a "selfie"; but please, please, please don't do "duck
lips". :)


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

[jmcquown]

On 2/16/2014 11:17 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:56:28 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I could take a picture of me taking a picture of myself. ;)
>
> That's called a "selfie"; but please, please, please don't do "duck
> lips". :)
>
>

Uh, what?

Jill

[sf]

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:54:46 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

AKA: Kissy lips only they aren't really puckered. Ugh.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/7e/1c/9e/7e1c9e003aabe2d24d6192c76f569815.jpg

[Gary]

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober (see above), but alcohol
> turns me into a softie.
>

> So, now you know someone whose sober self you'd describe as a jackass,
> who at least claims to become much nicer after a few beers.

Drunken people that turn friendly vs evil, can be very annoying. You
end up revealing all your inner feelings and literally saying too
much. I've seen you do just that. The few times I've gotten drunk,
i'm a friendly one too. I learned long ago to NOT post anything when
in that condition. You can write things but best to save them as
drafts to read again the next morning before posting. Once sober, you
will often delete them rather them post them.

G.

[jmcquown]

On 2/16/2014 12:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober (see above), but alcohol
>> turns me into a softie.
>>
>> So, now you know someone whose sober self you'd describe as a jackass,
>> who at least claims to become much nicer after a few beers.
>
> Drunken people that turn friendly vs evil, can be very annoying.

LOL Gary. Those are the types who want you to sing karaoke with them
even though you're not in a bar and you don't own a karaoke machine.
:-D The happy, exuberant drunks can certainly be very annoying. Half
the time you'll never know what they're talking about.

Jill

[jmcquown]

That's horrific.

Jill

[Gary]

Janet wrote:
>
> If (in your belief) you're nicer drunk than sober, it's pretty hard
> to square that with why she wants you to drink less or no beer.

Again..."nice drunks" tend to get way to stupid and spill out all of
their inner feelings. It's very annoying to be around one.

Your worst nightmare? Volunteer to go to a bar or a party with
friends and be the designated driver and not drink anything with
alcohol. Being there for hours (not drinking), but watching everyone
else turn louder and stupider is the worst evening imaginable. I did
that once and I'll never do it again.

G.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bmc8qq...@mid.individual.net...

lol

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[Ophelia]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:mts1g99lgnr8u6ceu...@4ax.com...

Those are the ones:)) Seemingly mandatory for those doing 'selfies' :)))


--
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[Dave Smith]

On 2014-02-16 12:44 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> Again..."nice drunks" tend to get way to stupid and spill out all of
> their inner feelings. It's very annoying to be around one.
>
> Your worst nightmare? Volunteer to go to a bar or a party with
> friends and be the designated driver and not drink anything with
> alcohol. Being there for hours (not drinking), but watching everyone
> else turn louder and stupider is the worst evening imaginable. I did
> that once and I'll never do it again.
>

One of the jobs my son had while working his way through university was
tending bar in an Irish pub, and not a particularly nice one. Just as
he graduated he was offered a job as assistant manager at a microbrewery
restaurant and was later promoted and transferred to open a new one. He
did well and they were turning a profit within a year, very rare in the
restaurant business. His next job was managing two restaurant/ bars in
a large commercial building.

I had warned him about the danger of alcoholism when working in the bar
business. He never was much of a drinker. Having worked closely with
the brewer he learned a lot about beer and has introduced me to some
tasty brews, but he almost never drinks. He cannot stand to be around
drunks.

[Dave Smith]

On 2014-02-16 12:43 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>>>> That's called a "selfie"; but please, please, please don't do "duck
>>>> lips". :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Uh, what?
>>>
>> AKA: Kissy lips only they aren't really puckered. Ugh.
>> http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/7e/1c/9e/7e1c9e003aabe2d24d6192c76f569815.jpg
>>
>>
>>
> That's horrific.
>

One of my nieces is a FB friend. She got out of the habit of duck lips
selfies but one of her friends seems not to have learned that lesson.
She not only does the duck lips but she contorts her body and looks like
a demented cobra.

[Ophelia]

"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:J07Mu.510901$2s6.3...@fx16.iad...

ewwwwwwwwwww

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[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:28:01 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> >
>
> > It makes me nicer. I can be a really mean sober (see above), but alcohol
>
> > turns me into a softie.
>
> >
>
> > So, now you know someone whose sober self you'd describe as a jackass,
>
> > who at least claims to become much nicer after a few beers.
>
>
>
> Drunken people that turn friendly vs evil, can be very annoying. You
>
> end up revealing all your inner feelings and literally saying too
>
> much. I've seen you do just that.

But see, Gary, you've seen me do it repeatedly. I enjoy it.

> The few times I've gotten drunk,
>
> i'm a friendly one too. I learned long ago to NOT post anything when
>
> in that condition. You can write things but best to save them as
>
> drafts to read again the next morning before posting. Once sober, you
>
> will often delete them rather them post them.
>

Do you ever see me delete anything other than for a bad typo? I post more
obnoxious things when I'm not drinking.

Oh, and you can do something that I can't. Because of my book, I'm not
allowing myself to read ANY fiction other than things I've read many
times before, so as to not pollute my writing. The thing that you can
do is to read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Little-Blue-Lies-Chris-Lynch/dp/1442440082/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1392573928&sr=1-1&keywords=little+blue+lies

I'm sure you can find it at your public library, and my wife (a librarian)
says it is one of the best books she has ever read in her entire life.
>
> G.

--B

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:44:19 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
> >
>
> > If (in your belief) you're nicer drunk than sober, it's pretty hard
>
> > to square that with why she wants you to drink less or no beer.
>
>
>
> Again..."nice drunks" tend to get way to stupid and spill out all of
>
> their inner feelings. It's very annoying to be around one.
>

I do that sober as well. I just tend to be less long winded and rambling.

>
> Your worst nightmare? Volunteer to go to a bar or a party with
>
> friends and be the designated driver and not drink anything with
>
> alcohol. Being there for hours (not drinking), but watching everyone
>
> else turn louder and stupider is the worst evening imaginable.

My worst nightmare would be something more like being buried alive in a
coffin with huge numbers of cockroaches, especially the Oriental cockroach.
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/publications/books/housing/graphics/chapter_04/figure4.08.jpg

> I did that once and I'll never do it again.
>

See? I almost never get drunk anymore. Getting really hammered was
associated with the band. After The Bonobos played a show, I'd generally
chug a pitcher of the cheapest thing the bar had on draft. If my wife
wasn't there to drive, I'd either take a cab home, or more likely there'd
be an after party. Boy, those were some wild ones.
>
> G.

--B

[Brooklyn1]

Gary wrote:
>
>I wish everyone here would post current pictures of themselves. I love
>all photos and it's nice to see a pic of who I write to. In the "mug
>shots" on the rfc unofficial page, many of you have pictures there but
>mostly very old, outdated ones.
>
>Maybe we can all post a recent pic but I don't know if that webpage is
>still maintained. Is it Cindy or Chatty Cathy that is in charge of it?
>
>I posted a pic of myself from my daughter's wedding that was 3-4 years
>ago. Those that were paying attention then saw it.

There's no picture of you at rfc Mugs. I check those pictures quite
frequently, none have been added or deleted for like ten years now...
most of those people are no longer. I've never seen any pictures
you've posted here.

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:39:47 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> >
>
> > You silly. You're actually talking about me. I've not only been married
>
> > for coming up on 28 years this April, but I have one fine wife, and we're
>
> > all gaga in love. Isn't she a doll?
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/11701860706/
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11634545806/
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/11633983503/
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/8254284103/
>
> > We just can't keep our hands off each other.
>
> >
>
> > Good looking son too.
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3590596412/
>
>
>
> Thanks for posting all these pictures, Bryan. Your wife is very pretty
>
> and she just looks like a nice person too.

She is, and she doesn't have a mean streak like I do. All sugar and spice.

> Your son also looks very cool!
>

He certainly thinks so. He's a skater.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwxhHit-pEp8JOtHCzF3wwQ

>
> I wish everyone here would post current pictures of themselves. I love
>
> all photos and it's nice to see a pic of who I write to. In the "mug
>
> shots" on the rfc unofficial page, many of you have pictures there but
>
> mostly very old, outdated ones.
>
>
> Maybe we can all post a recent pic but I don't know if that webpage is
>
> still maintained. Is it Cindy or Chatty Cathy that is in charge of it?
>

Chatty Cathy.

>
> I posted a pic of myself from my daughter's wedding that was 3-4 years
>
> ago. Those that were paying attention then saw it.
>

Gary, check your email.
>
> G

--B

[Janet]

In article <00a2712c-d1dc-4399...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

> There's a level of "I've been damaged by an alcoholic" in your posts. Was I
> right? Bad touching?

Wrong, but I'm sure that won't make even a teensy a dent in your
opinion of your own feminine insight.


Janet UK

[Bryan-TGWWW]

I was speculating, of course, but you've either had some bad experience
with alcohol, or you're parroting prohibitionist ideology. You seem to
be intelligent, so I assume it's the former. Perhaps you could share.
>
> Janet UK

--B

[Ed Pawlowski]

The only drunks not annoying are the ones that go to sleep.
Disclaimer: I was drunk once in 1967 and never saw the need to be that
way again. I still enjoy adult beverages in moderation.

[Janet]

In article <fb453da5-278b-4a1b...@googlegroups.com>,
bryang...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:00:51 PM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > In article <00a2712c-d1dc-4399...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > bryang...@gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > There's a level of "I've been damaged by an alcoholic" in your posts. Was I
> >
> > > right? Bad touching?
> >
> >
> >
> > Wrong, but I'm sure that won't make even a teensy a dent in your
> >
> > opinion of your own feminine insight.
> >
> I was speculating, of course, but you've either had some bad experience
> with alcohol,

I see bad drivers every day, but it doesn't mean I've been in a road
crash.

> or you're parroting prohibitionist ideology.

Prohibition was a US thing; not in Britain where no such "ideology"
exists.

> You seem to
> be intelligent, so I assume it's the former. Perhaps you could share.

I live in Scotland, which has a male drinking culture.
I doubt you could find anyone in Scotland who hasn't seen the downhill
slide played out very publically... in behaviour, health, relationships
etc.

Janet UK

[Nunya Bidnits]

Alcohol and karaoke don't mix. Karaoke is obnoxious enough without the
lubrication. Sooner or later, it is inevitable that Drunk Elvis will turn
up, and that is one very good reason not to carry a weapon into a bar.

MartyB.

[notbob]

On 2014-03-29, Nunya Bidnits <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> Alcohol and karaoke don't mix.

????

Heck, I can't imagine karaoke WITHOU alcohol.

> Karaoke is obnoxious enough without the lubrication.

It's even worse when the listener is sober.

> Sooner or later, it is inevitable that Drunk Elvis will turn up, and
> that is one very good reason not to carry a weapon into a bar.

I'll only do one song, after sufficient libation, and then only with a
girl. When Will I Be Loved by Linda Rondstat. Love that two-part
harmony. ;)

nb

[Nunya Bidnits]

notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-29, Nunya Bidnits <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Alcohol and karaoke don't mix.
>
> ????
>
> Heck, I can't imagine karaoke WITHOU alcohol.

And there we have the root of the karaoke problem...

>
>> Karaoke is obnoxious enough without the lubrication.
>
> It's even worse when the listener is sober.

True, but I've never had any luck drinking karaoke pretty.

>
>> Sooner or later, it is inevitable that Drunk Elvis will turn up, and
>> that is one very good reason not to carry a weapon into a bar.
>
> I'll only do one song, after sufficient libation, and then only with a
> girl. When Will I Be Loved by Linda Rondstat. Love that two-part
> harmony. ;)
>
> nb

As long as you aren't attempting "Blue Suede Shoes" or even worse, "In the
Ghetto".

MartyB

[notbob]

On 2014-03-29, Nunya Bidnits <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> As long as you aren't attempting "Blue Suede Shoes" or even worse, "In the
> Ghetto".

Nah.

OTOH, I can see Burning Love, Wynonna Judd's version, providing I
could round up some background singers. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzZZS9q2Tmo

nb

[Nunya Bidnits]

Your and my ideas of rounding up karaoke singers doing Elvis are distinctly
different. Mine involves an old abandoned well. ;-)

[notbob]

On 2014-04-02, Nunya Bidnits <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> Your and my ideas of rounding up karaoke singers doing Elvis are distinctly
> different. Mine involves an old abandoned well. ;-)

Well!.... fortunately, I know of no karaoke spots withing a 100 miles
of here and haven't done the big K in about 10-15 yrs, so yer safe
from me. ;)

nb

[vabr...@aol.com]

The original recipe which I copied back in the 1980s watching Justin cook on tv called for
2 C macaroni and 2 C cheese , three eggs, 1 C wine, 2 C sliced smoked sausage, Worcestershire,sauce hot sauce