Coronation chicken

[Graham]

How to make Coronation chicken - the original recipe.

To make coronation chicken for six to eight people, just as it would
have passed the lips of the royal invitees of 1953:

First, poach two chickens for 40 minutes in water with a carrot, a
splash of wine, thyme, bay leaf, parsley and four peppercorns. Cool in
the liquid then remove the meat from the bones.
Set it aside and make the sauce. Heat a tablespoon of oil in a pan
and add 2 tbsp of chopped onion. Cook gently for three minutes then add
a dessertspoon of curry powder. Cook for a further two minutes.
Add one tsp of tomato purée, a glass of red wine, ¾ wineglass of
water, one bay leaf, and bring to the boil. Then add a pinch each of
salt, sugar and pepper, the juice of ½ a lemon and simmer for 5-10
minutes. Strain and cool.
Add the mixture slowly to 450ml mayonnaise, then stir in 1-2 tbsp
of apricot purée (made from soaked and boiled dry apricots). Season
again – the sauce must not be too sweet. Finish by adding 2-3 tbsp of
whipped cream.
Add only enough sauce to coat the chicken lightly, then eat it with
a rice salad.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Dear God. I nearly fell asleep just from reading that recipe.
Charlie's Coronation Quiche doesn't sound any better.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Well, it would be a bit strange to have bibimbap during the
coronation.

[dsi1]

It sounds like a 70 year old fancy recipe. Here's what my wife ate the other night.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yL5Yytgzi4sRsKVn7

[dsi1]

I don't usually follow the politics of other countries but this just cracks me up. Those stuffy old farts really hate her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAJQ_K_CzCE

[Bruce]

I'm generally on the side of non-hysterical Aboriginals, but even many
of them think this women has mental problems :)

[Ed P]

Sure, as it is. Instead of four peppercorns, go wild and use five! The
difference is fantastic, so much brighter.

I read that Camilla's son is protesting the menu. I guess he is a food
critic

[Cindy Hamilton]

One would think that in this day and age, the appropriate coronation
dish would be chicken tikka masala, as it reflects how the British
actually eat.

Or, for Charles, paneer tikka masala.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-21 11:07 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2023-04-21, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>> I read that Camilla's son is protesting the menu. I guess he is a food
>> critic
>
> One would think that in this day and age, the appropriate coronation
> dish would be chicken tikka masala, as it reflects how the British
> actually eat.
>
> Or, for Charles, paneer tikka masala.
>

I wonder how much whining they have to listen to about colonizers.

[bruce bowser]

I thought that those cheerleaders in Austin, Texas and what? a pimp would over-shadow all of that, by now?

[Bruce]

Signed: Cindy Hamilton, expert on the British

[Bruce]

Those Indians should be happy that the superior white people were so
interested in them!

[cshenk]

Sounds boring, yes. Icky also once you add boiled apricots it seems
worse. Maybe it's one of those 'have to taste it so see the charm sort
of things?

[lucr...@florence.it]

The original recipe was from 1953, very different eating then.

[GM]

UK was still on food ration at the time, also... one had to "make do with what one had"...

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Even a queen couldn't get more than 4 peppercorns. Maybe she could,
but it wouldn't have looked good to the public, being only eight
years after the end of the war.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:05:39 -0500, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Rationing was easing then but things like candy were still
unavailable.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I've heard of this dish several times, but it doesn't inspire me to make it,
but I'd gladly sample it if offered to me.

[Hank Rogers]

Those were really hard times for the poor dentists.

[Hank Rogers]

It might be pretty good. Not everything has to be spiced over the
top like an emeril *BAM* thing.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:41:50 -0500, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid>

lol yes, hadn't particularly thought of that, you're right.

[Graham]

Here's a modern take that's quite simple:
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/easy-coronation-chicken

and another variation:
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/food/recipes/a535063/coronation-chicken/

[GM]

UK WW II rationing of sweets and sugar *greatly* improved the dental health of Brits - and the ration
diet also greatly reduced chronic heart disease and obesity, etc... diets were much lower in fat and
much higher in fibre, veg, etc...

Interestingly, West Germany went off full rationing in 1952 - and the UK only in 1954...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_Kingdom

1953:
4 February 1953: Confectionery (sweets and chocolate) rationing ended.
September 1953: Sugar rationing ended.

1954"
4 July 1954: Meat and all other food rationing ended in Britain

</>

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I like this version better than the second one.

>
> and another variation:
> https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/food/recipes/a535063/coronation-chicken/
>

The cilantro killed this one for me.

[Dave Smith]

It looks like a variation of chicken salad. It might have seemed
exotic enough for a royal dinner 70 years ago but I would expect
something a little more regal for King Chuck.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I get the feeling the Masters Golf Tournament played in Augusta famous
pimento cheese sandwiches will not be appearing on any table at the
palace for his coronation. Nor Hostess Twinkies or Moon Pies.

[Graham]

I can't comment on the recipes as I've never made it. However, I have
eaten someone else's and they used mango chutney. It was (wait for it
Dave) delicious.

[jmcquown]

The date given is 1953; his mother's coronation. It sure sounds like a
1950's thing!

Jill

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:53:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 4/21/2023 10:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-04-21 9:37 p.m., Graham wrote:
>>> On 2023-04-21 4:33 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

It was for the Queens coronation in 1953, for Charles they have come
up with a spinach quiche.

https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche

[Bryan Simmons]

Because he isn't a *real man*?

--Bryan

[Janet]

In article <BhGdneajHPfEd9_
5nZ2dnZf...@giganews.com>, csh...@virginia-beach.net
says...

>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On 2023-04-21, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > How to make Coronation chicken - the original recipe.
> > >
> > > To make coronation chicken for six to eight people, just as it
> > > would have passed the lips of the royal invitees of 1953:
> > >
> > > First, poach two chickens for 40 minutes in water with a
> > > carrot, a splash of wine, thyme, bay leaf, parsley and four
> > > peppercorns. Cool in the liquid then remove the meat from the bones.
> > > Set it aside and make the sauce. Heat a tablespoon of oil in a
> > > pan and add 2 tbsp of chopped onion. Cook gently for three minutes
> > > then add a dessertspoon of curry powder. Cook for a further two

> > > minutes. Add one tsp of tomato purée, a glass of red wine, ?

> > > wineglass of water, one bay leaf, and bring to the boil. Then add a

> > > pinch each of salt, sugar and pepper, the juice of ? a lemon and

> > > simmer for 5-10 minutes. Strain and cool.
> > > Add the mixture slowly to 450ml mayonnaise, then stir in 1-2
> > > tbsp of apricot purée (made from soaked and boiled dry apricots).

> > > Season again ? the sauce must not be too sweet. Finish by adding

> > > 2-3 tbsp of whipped cream.
> > > Add only enough sauce to coat the chicken lightly, then eat it
> > > with a rice salad.
> >
> > Dear God. I nearly fell asleep just from reading that recipe.
> > Charlie's Coronation Quiche doesn't sound any better.
>
> Sounds boring, yes. Icky also once you add boiled apricots it seems
> worse. Maybe it's one of those 'have to taste it so see the charm sort
> of things?

You have to understand that it was invented for the
coronation lunch hosted by the new Queen, to impress 350
international guests, following her Coronation in 1953.
Although WW2 had ended seven years earlier,Britains
economy was still crippled, we still had national food
rationing. UK produced foods were still in short supply;
and imported foods and ingredients an exotic and
unaffordable luxury.

https://www.cordonbleu.edu/london/coronation-chicken/en

quote

"The ingredients used were remarkable for their time, with
many of them only just becoming available, whilst the
majority of the country was still under the restrictions
of post-war rationing. The original recipe consisted of
young roasting chickens, water and a little wine to cover
carrot, a bouquet garni, salt, peppercorns and a cream of
curry sauce."

Janet UK

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, lucr...@florence.it <lucr...@florence.it> wrote:
>
> It was for the Queens coronation in 1953, for Charles they have come
> up with a spinach quiche.
>
> https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche

Don't forget the broad or soy beans. About 1/3 as much as the spinach.
I suppose the beans stand in for the bacon or ham. The proportions
wouldn't be right without them.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Beans in spinach quiche. Well, that's interesting! ;)

Jill

[Graham]

For many, chicken was still a luxury for several years after rationing
ended.

[GM]

What can one say about a "man" that imagines himself a tampon, inserted
into his pararmour's mouldy olde twat...???

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-22, GM wrote:

> What can one say about a "man" that imagines
> himself a tampon, inserted into his pararmour's
> mouldy olde twat...???

Even if you do not feel them, You should at least
be able to imagine 'normal' male proclivities.

At least he didn't imagine himself as some sort of
wrything butt plug shimmying into her rectum.

[GM]

GAWD, Mike...!!!

Lol...

--
GM

[Bryan Simmons]

He gotchya there, Greg.
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[GM]

As a God - Fearing Christian I am SHOCKED... SHOCKED, I tell ya...!!!

😎

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-22, GM wrote:

> Bryan Simmons wrote:

>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:

>>> Mike Duffy wrote:

>>>> At least he didn't imagine himself as some sort of
>>>> wrything butt plug shimmying into her rectum.

>>> GAWD, Mike...!!!

>> He gotchya there, Greg.

> As a God - Fearing Christian I am
> SHOCKED... SHOCKED, I tell ya...!!!

I'm sure that some day, it will actually happen when
the electrical tape of your home-modded 'booster'
stage shorts out from all the pube lube.

[%]

He puts Vaseline on the door knob so his victim
can't escape.

[Bruce]

Only because not all his telephone conversations were recorded.

[dsi1]

That's a rather humble dish for a royal coronation - or a royal anything. I have some doubts. What the heck are they really going to eat? OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.

[Bruce]

It's so close to vegetarian, but then they use lard!

[dsi1]

Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:24:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 10:16:08 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:40:07 AM UTC-10, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:53:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >The date given is 1953; his mother's coronation. It sure sounds like a
>> >> >1950's thing!
>> >> >
>> >> >Jill
>> >> It was for the Queens coronation in 1953, for Charles they have come
>> >> up with a spinach quiche.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche
>> >
>> >That's a rather humble dish for a royal coronation - or a royal anything. I have some doubts. What the heck are they really going to eat? OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.
>> It's so close to vegetarian, but then they use lard!
>
>Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.

I'd use an oil.

[bruce bowser]

I'll bet Paula Deen disagrees.

[Bruce]

She's more into dead animals?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.

God intended us to use butter or lard. Wilhelm Normall is to blame for
partially hydrogenated vegetable shortening.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:18:11 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-04-22, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.
>
>God intended us to use butter or lard.

Or oil. Or your brain.

[dsi1]

Sounds like you've accepted Satan as your personal savior.

[dsi1]

That woman's crazy - I'm pretty much a vegan compared to Deen!

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:24:05 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Don't Asians use a lot more oil than butter or crisco?

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:30:37 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 4:24:11 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 10:16:08 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > > <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:40:07 AM UTC-10, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>> > > >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:53:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >The date given is 1953; his mother's coronation. It sure sounds like a
>> > > >> >1950's thing!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >Jill
>> > > >> It was for the Queens coronation in 1953, for Charles they have come
>> > > >> up with a spinach quiche.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche
>> > > >
>> > > >That's a rather humble dish for a royal coronation - or a royal anything. I have some doubts. What the heck are they really going to eat? OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.
>> > > It's so close to vegetarian, but then they use lard!
>> > Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.
>> I'll bet Paula Deen disagrees.
>
>That woman's crazy - I'm pretty much a vegan compared to Deen!
>

Does she eat a PoC for breakfast every day?

[dsi1]

When I was growing up - butter was seen as unhealthy. One day, nobody's going to be eating butter. It'll be some strange crap that people used to eat. Milk? Ditto.

[dsi1]

I sure do use a lot of oil in cooking. I only make shortcrust with shortening. I'll have to try making a crust with oil. My guess is that I'll have to add some sugar to counteract the taste of the oil.

[dsi1]

I'll get back to you on that one - as soon as I figure out what "PoC" is.

[GM]

My word, Mike!

Should I put you on my "Prayer List", as I've done with Graham...???

I think I shall...!!!

https://www.worldnetworkofprayer.com/weekly-prayer-list/

Weekly Prayer List
April 17 - April 24, 2023

This list is updated weekly. However, as new information is made available, changes are made.

There is a community of people that consistently pray over this list, so be encouraged! Some requests:

Mike Duffy needs healing of his mind for normal functionality, God's divine favors and that God will give him victory over all things to His glory...

Graham is an outspoken atheist and needs a revelation of truth...

Pray for Turkey, Syria, Ukraine and all the people in surrounding vicinities...

" dsi1" has severe nonstop tinnitus and mental health problems and needs a divine miracle...

Pray that Hillary Clinton has the strength to cast out Greedy Satan, who has taken over her life since she evinced political ambitions...

John Kuthe needs deliverance from depression and anxiety and drugs. He is facing a jobless problem and needs God’s help in finance. Pray he can find a job suitable and work with a joyful heart...

Jill McQuown needs deliverance from her sins, especially the Sin of Gossiping. She has a desire to stop sinning but needs strength and a determination. Also, pray for repentance, she is able to forgive herself and others. Pray for complete salvation...

O:-)

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-22, dsi1 wrote:

> That's a rather humble dish for a
> royal coronation - or a royal anything.

> [...] OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.

I really hate it when I have to channel
bad Bruce like this, but maybe Charles III
said "Spanish Quiche", not "Spinach Quiche".

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

If the oil is neutral enough? Even olive oil can be neutral.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:42:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

People/Person of Colour. I thought Paula Deen was rather "southern".

[dsi1]

It's a step in the right direction, I suppose.

[dsi1]

My guess is that no oil will be neutral enough for a pie crust.

[Bruce]

I never know where your little digs come from, but I do find them
rather entertaining. And if you keep practicing, you will probably get
better at them.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

You may be right. The proof will have to be in the crust.

[S Viemeister]

On 22/04/2023 23:24, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 12:19:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

>>>> I sure do use a lot of oil in cooking. I only make shortcrust with shortening. I'll have to try making a crust with oil. My guess is that I'll have to add some sugar to counteract the taste of the oil.
>>>>
>>> If the oil is neutral enough? Even olive oil can be neutral.
>>
>> My guess is that no oil will be neutral enough for a pie crust.
>>
> You may be right. The proof will have to be in the crust.
>

Avocado and almond oil are practically taste-free - unless they go rancid.

[dsi1]

She is. Neal Young was right.

https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-officials-claim-recordings-of-racist-violent-statements-were-altered/

[Hank Rogers]

God made an exception for folks on da Rock. HE wanted them to use
only Crisco, and also put a shit ton of sugar in everything.

And HE bade them constantly crow about hawaii, asians and the evil
mainland.

[Hank Rogers]

Tojo, in hawaya, every recipe can be fixed with more sugar.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-22, S Viemeister wrote:

> Avocado and almond oil are practically
> taste-free - unless they go rancid.

I hate it have to channel BB, but I've
heard that grapeseed oil has no flavour.

Mind you, I did actually buy a bottle
and try it for salads & frying, but
NOT pie crusts. I did not taste anything,
but that means little because I usually
do not notice the taste except for corn
and peanut oil, which taste a bit stronger.

[Hank Rogers]

Damn, Tojo! Why don't you let your master sniff your old asian ass?
That's all he wants. Yoose a stubborn rock man.

[Hank Rogers]

Damn, you quit praying for trump?

It's a hard life when a man chooses to become a traitor and try to
bring down a country.

A cristian would pray for the fallen.

[GM]

The Donald will arise to Heaven upon The Wings of Angels, Hank...

God told me that Heaven looks a LOT like Mar - del - Lago, too...

--
GM

[Bruce]

I'll remember that. I've never tried them.

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose pretty much fucked up compared to anybody, Uncle.

[GM]

I'm a - feared that the only entity that can eventually "forgive" Unca Tojo is Our Lord - and even *that* might be a "stretch"...

:-\

[Hank Rogers]

Tojo, in those old days, asians didn't have butter, milk and shit.
Many didn't even have a handfull of rice.

I know hawaya ain't same as mainland USA, but now you don't have to
grovel in a pit of shit.

YOOSE is free Tojo!

[Ed P]

She was kicked off of Food Network for her racist remarks.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pauladeen-slur-idCNBRE95J03I20130621

[Ed P]

The GOP has great family values too. We should follow people like this

https://imgur.com/gallery/1Wx22PB

[Bryan Simmons]

On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 6:03:33 PM UTC-5, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2023-04-22, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > Avocado and almond oil are practically
> > taste-free - unless they go rancid.
>

Both have more taste than high oleic sunflower, though
both taste good.

>
> I hate it have to channel BB, but I've
> heard that grapeseed oil has no flavour.
>

Grapeseed is shitty oil, and goes rancid quickly, unlike
the above mentioned sunflower, avocado and almond
oils.

>
> Mind you, I did actually buy a bottle
> and try it for salads & frying, but
> NOT pie crusts. I did not taste anything,
> but that means little because I usually
> do not notice the taste except for corn
> and peanut oil, which taste a bit stronger.
>

Corn oil has a pronounced taste, but it's good when
frying corn tortillas or fish breaded with corn meal. It
does have to be fresh though, because it goes rancid
quickly. I like the taste of peanut oil, but find the
taste fairly subtle. Canola tastes a bit off, and soy is
downright nasty.

--Bryan

[dsi1]

The good news is that she never said nothing about hiring hit men or pre-digging any graves. Yay!

[Bruce]

Reading that, she really comes across rather racist. It's not just a
matter of woke hysteria.

I also found out about her love of butter. Joan must love her recipes.

[Hank Rogers]

If trump is imprisoned by the evil democrats, we should vote for
the florida governor, de santy. That is the only way we can restore
the american taliban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE FOR DE SANTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GM]

Ed, like all of us, she is not without sin, but as she mightily strives to be a good Christian lady, "God will absolve her"...

John 8:7

"They continued to ask Jesus their question. So he stood up and said, “Is there anyone here who has never sinned? The person without sin can throw the first stone at this woman...”


--
GM

[S Viemeister]

Avocado oil has the highest smoke point I know of. I use it for most things.

[GM]

If The Donald lands in the hoosegow, he will immediately ascend to "hero" status a la Mandela or Solzhenitsyn or Sakharov, Hank...


"President DeSantis" DOES have a nice "ring" to it, don't it...???

B-)

--
GM

[GM]

The FIVE million civilian innocents that you drove to the grave cannot, unfortunately, say the same of you, TOJO...!!!

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Donald is the only prophet. Jesus was false, sent from the devil.

I got it.

Can we still worship ronald reagan?

[dsi1]

Regarding Lauren Boebert:

During her acceptance speech, she said: “I’m going to tell you all for the first time in a public setting that, not only am I a mother of four boys, but, come April, I will be a gigi to a brand new grandson.”

She said her son had pointed out that teenage parenthood ran in the family: Boebert made her own mother a grandmother at 36.

“He is very excited to be a father,” the congresswoman said of Tyler, the eldest of her sons. “My mom was 18 when she had me, which inspired me to be a mother when I was 18 years old.”

The things people aspire to, I can't understand.

[Ed P]

The mother to be, I read, is 15.

Boebert also was against sex education in schools. Evidently her family
already knows what to do.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-22 8:50 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 1:50:05 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>> On 4/22/2023 7:24 PM, GM wrote:

>> The GOP has great family values too. We should follow people like
>> this
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/1Wx22PB
>
> Regarding Lauren Boebert:
>
> During her acceptance speech, she said: “I’m going to tell you all
> for the first time in a public setting that, not only am I a mother
> of four boys, but, come April, I will be a gigi to a brand new
> grandson.”
>
> She said her son had pointed out that teenage parenthood ran in the
> family: Boebert made her own mother a grandmother at 36.

A couple years ago I was talking with a woman I know about ancestry and
she asked me how many generations there would be over a given period of
time. I said it depends on the people.... whether they were doctors and
lawyers or welfare types. She said that was a horrible thing to say,
paused and added that she can't disagree with it.

>
> “He is very excited to be a father,” the congresswoman said of Tyler,
> the eldest of her sons. “My mom was 18 when she had me, which
> inspired me to be a mother when I was 18 years old.”
>
> The things people aspire to, I can't understand.

It is the recipe for a cycle of poverty.

[Bruce]

Lauren Noebert? I thought that was the (former?) governor of Alaska in
the picture.

[Bruce]

Those girls keep falling pregnant and they're never even near the
cabbage patch!

[Bruce]

Dave, what is your recipe for mental poverty? It seems to work really
well.

[GM]

No, The Donald is part of Jesus' Holy Flock - as are you and I...

>
> Can we still worship ronald reagan?

Natcherly... "The Gipper" saved our wonderful USA...!!!

He tore down the Berlin Wall, too...

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GM

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-04-22, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> >

>> > Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.

>> God intended us to use butter or lard. Wilhelm Normall is to blame for
>> partially hydrogenated vegetable shortening.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> When I was growing up - butter was seen as unhealthy. One day, nobody's going to be eating butter. It'll be some strange crap that people used to eat. Milk? Ditto.

When I was growing up, smoking was permitted in hospitals. It doesn't
mean that was a good idea.

Hydrogenated vegetable shortening has no flavor. Fail.

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Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:33:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> Does she eat a PoC for breakfast every day?
>
> I'll get back to you on that one - as soon as I figure out what "PoC" is.

Person of Color.

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Cindy Hamilton

[Janet]

In article <14273a2b-8f9b-4862-a1cd-
24c183...@googlegroups.com>, dsi...@hawaiiantel.net
says...

> for Charles they have come
> > up with a spinach quiche.
> >
> > https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche
>
> That's a rather humble dish for a royal coronation - or a royal anything. I have some doubts. What the heck are they really going to eat? OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.
>
>

"Coronation Chicken" was the dish designed to be served
at the Royal banquet following the Coronatinn of Q.E 2.
She was Head of Tableat the banquet and hosting
international heads of state who had attended the
coronation.

The "coronation quiche" reipe has nothing to do with
what Charles will eat or serve at the formal meal
following his coronation.

It's traditional, after a British Coronation, for the
polpulations of Britain and the Commonwealth to hold
community celebrations; anything from street parties ( sit
dowm party meal for all the residents, setting up tables
right down the street) to private parties in the home (or
garden) for family and friends. The quiche recipe is one
opf several "coronation recipes" suggested for such
parties; cooked by ordinary people in their home kitchen
for family, freinds, neighbours.

My husband is invited to a coronation "Big Lunch" at the
local Mens Shed where he's an active member. They've got a
giant TV 60 " screen to watch the coronation.


<https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/how-
when-where-host-coronation-big-lunch-everything-need-
know/>

quote

"a quiche, made with spinach, broad beans, cheese and
tarragon, has been ?personally chosen? by the King and
Queen to mark their coronation. It was selected in
discussion with royal chef Mark Flanagan, who devised it,
and is felt to be a ?good sharing dish? to take to a
Coronation Big Lunch as it can be served hot or cold and
is easily adapted to suit a wide variety of tastes and
dietary requirements."

Shops here are full of flags, bunting, coronation
celebration regalia and suggestions.

At the last Coronation, my parents bought a television
to watch the ceremony. It was the only TV in our street
so all the neighbours came to share it. Black and white,
of course, and it had about a 9 " screen.

I remember every school child in UK was given a
Coronation Mug, I also recieved a small replica of the
golden carriage but don't know if that was from my school
or parents. At school we coloured in pictures of the
crown sceptre and orb for our Coronation scrap books.

The 1953 Coronation was a Very Big Deal for Britain;
celebrating that the country had survived WW2; that the
Monarchy system had survived the abdication crisis, that
the new monarch was young, beautiful, and had already
produced a male heir and spare. She dedicated her life to
serve her country and was hugely respected for it.

Charles has a more questionable reputation(and
following) and will find his mother's reign a hard act to
follow. There were many years when it did not seem
possible that his wife Camilla would be crowned alongside
him or accepted as Queen. Times change.

Janet UK

[Janet]

In article <0ce09151-121e-49dc-b3c1-
370651...@googlegroups.com>, dsi...@hawaiiantel.net
says...

>
> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 12:19:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> > On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >
> > >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 11:32:41 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 14:24:05 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 10:53:57 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> > >> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:24:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > >> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 10:16:08 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> > >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > >> >> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:40:07 AM UTC-10, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:53:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >The date given is 1953; his mother's coronation. It sure sounds like a
> > >> >> >> >> >1950's thing!
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Jill

> > >> >> >> >> It was for the Queens coronation in 1953, for Charles they have come

> > >> >> >> >> up with a spinach quiche.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> https://www.royal.uk/the-coronation-quiche
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >That's a rather humble dish for a royal coronation - or a royal anything. I have some doubts. What the heck are they really going to eat? OTOH, I'll have to make a quiche.

> > >> >> >> It's so close to vegetarian, but then they use lard!
> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >Not a problem - you can use Crisco. This is what God intends us to use.

> > >> >> I'd use an oil.
> > >> >
> > >> >Sounds like you've accepted Satan as your personal savior.
> > >> >
> > >> Don't Asians use a lot more oil than butter or crisco?

> > >
> > >I sure do use a lot of oil in cooking. I only make shortcrust with shortening. I'll have to try making a crust with oil. My guess is that I'll have to add some sugar to counteract the taste of the oil.
> > >
> > If the oil is neutral enough? Even olive oil can be neutral.
>
> My guess is that no oil will be neutral enough for a pie crust.

I have tried making pastry with oil.. once. Never
again. It's as greasily disappointing as cakes made with
oil instead of butter.

For short-crust pastry I use half butter, half lard,
like my mother taught me.

Janet UK

[S Viemeister]

On 23/04/2023 13:07, Janet wrote:

> I have tried making pastry with oil.. once. Never
> again. It's as greasily disappointing as cakes made with
> oil instead of butter.
>

I tried once, too.

It really wasn't rollable - had to be patted into the pie tin.
I suppose it might be okay for celiacs, if you use almond flour and
almond oil. And perhaps a bit of water, to make up for the water content
in butter. Or some Amaretto.

Hmm.
Walnut meal and walnut oil, with some sort of pear filling might be
good. In a tart pan with a removable bottom. One of my nieces has celiac
disease, and this might suit her.
I may play around with the idea.

> For short-crust pastry I use half butter, half lard,
> like my mother taught me.
>

And my mother, and her mother...