Do Not Put Hands in Toilet!

[Sqwertz]

I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.

https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS

Common sense has gone to the shitter.

-sw

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

[Bruce]

Maybe if their teeth fell in?

[Ed P]

How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Oh ok. I don't take the phone or food or anything with me when I go to the bathroom
except maybe a catalog to scan while I'm visiting Mrs. Murphy.

[Hank Rogers]

Lot cheaper to use mr bumpy for that, just in case it gets dropped in the
toilet.

[Sqwertz]

Which is why all toilets have an NFC or bluetooth anti-levitator
water resistant hardware and firmware installed rather than a
sharp pointy object at the bottom of the toilet. Am I right,
David?

If you drop your phone in the toilet, are you going to read the
notices on the wall in back of your head before you panic and go
fishing for it?

It's your call. But you HAVE been warned now!


-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

Imagine the millions of people who keep their phone in a pants
pocket...

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

My father used to have, what he called, pants pocket conversations.

[Sqwertz]

You're answering too late with the obvious which has already been
pointed out.

I'm just piggy-backing to find WTF is Mrs. Murphy?!?

(I'll probably get reamed on this one eh?)

-sw

[Ed P]

euphemism I visit Mr.s Murphy every morning. That is where I read the
Reader's Digest.

[dsi1]

I've never heard that one before but I did figure it out. I like to go to the toilet myself. My wife doesn't like that word, it seems. When we're in a restaurant with other people, I like to say "I'm going to the bathroom." It's a euphemism for "I'm going to hunt down our server and discreetly tell her/him to give me the check." Sometimes I'll give the guy my card.
These days, I'm also able to use an app to scan a code on the table and pay. It's already paid before anybody realizes what's happening. This strategy should work for a short while until people catch up to the technology. It's just a never ending struggle. The good news is that I'll probably die soon and can finally rest in peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DK4QDa21Vo

[dsi1]

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:
> Which is why all toilets have an NFC or bluetooth anti-levitator
> water resistant hardware and firmware installed rather than a
> sharp pointy object at the bottom of the toilet. Am I right,
> David?

You're in a manic phase. Please let your doctor know about this. Of course, you won't do it. At least take your meds.

[bruce bowser]

I don't know, I guess if you can pull the phone out of the water so quick that no water/bacteria damage happens, why not?

[Dave Smith]

After reading several responses to this I remembered an incident years
ago when my busybody neighbour called up in the afternoon of
Thanksgiving wondering where our next door neighbour was. This guy was a
real handyman. Old Olive said that she had dropped her dentures into the
toilet and could not get them out. My immediate thought was that she had
just told the wrong person because I knew I could not keep that secret.
I was also thinking that she might as well order a new set of dentures
because there isn't enough chlorine in the world to sanitize a set of
teeth that had gone down there.

[jmcquown]

I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the
first place. What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a
phone call (or text)? It's ridiculous.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.

[jmcquown]

I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
the toilet.

Jill

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

I have a cell phone, but it stays in my purse and off. But I do have
several cordless phones scattered around the house, but they don't go
to the privy with me. Same as you, they can leave a message.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

News flash: Not everybody is like Jill McQuown.

[Cindy Hamilton]

My phone is always in my pocket. That's true for a lot of men;
not so much for women. When I'm out, my wallet is usually in the
other pocket. In the summer, my phone shares the pocket with my
keys. (In the winter, my keys share with my gloves in my jacket
pocket.)

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
I make sure all my pants have pockets.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also
suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

[Janet]

In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456q...@4ax.com>,
lucr...@florence.it says...

> My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.
>

Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
be safer living in a tent.

Janet UK

[Ed P]

On 2/21/2024 6:55 AM, lucr...@florence.it wrote:

>
> The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
> take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also
> suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
> if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

Do you have grab bars? I have them in the shower and in the water
closet. They do make the room safer.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
room in the house.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

My mother had a fall in the bathroom of her condo and could not get up.
She got over to the vanity and banged on the pipes to get her
neighbour's attention. This happened around 3 am. After that we set
her up with one of the fall alert systems.

[lucr...@florence.it]

Nope, just well constructed so that noise does not aggravate
neighbours, but there is that downside. A neighbour would have to
have the radio on extremely loud for next door to hear it, I consider
that a bonus - and so do friends in newer, less well constructed
condos.

[Dave Smith]

I lived in a few apartment buildings while I was in my 20s and having to
endure the sound from nieghbours was a major drawback. My wife's parents
moved into an apartment after they sold their large house. It was
surprisingly soundproof. My mother ended up selling her house and moving
in a nice condo. It too was well noise insulated. After one of her
health incidents we ended up having to provide 24/7 car for her so I
ended up staying with he 2-3 days a week. I don't remember ever hearing
people walking around upstairs radio, tv or conversations.

[Graham]

They are building large, 4 storey condo/apartment buildings in Calgary
out of wood and chip-board (OSB). They are, IMO, gigantic firetraps.
One stupid candle user or a dropped cigarette butt and no sprinkler
system will be able to cope.

[Bruce]

You read an excerpt from "Soundproofing And Me, A Journey" by Dave
Smith.

[Graham]

That would certainly be a problem in the condos I describe in this thread.
Better developments have concrete floors but everything between is wood
and gyprock.

[lucr...@florence.it]

I stayed with a friend in her condo after she had surgery several
years ago and in the middle of the night I thought I heard her up and
around but it was the man overhead going for a pee. That was a wood
construction, I was surprised they were allowed to use wood.

[George Sulzbach]

It was nice of him to provide a 24/7 car for her in her
time of need.

[Bruce]

2-3 days a week. He says.

[Janet]

In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59...@fx48.iad>,
hami...@invalid.com says...

Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
start in the kitchen.

Janet UK

[cshenk]

I mostly wore dresses or skirts (some had pockets but most didn't). I
spent 6 years though working in classified places so cellphones not
allowed inside, making it moot though.

[Ed P]

Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.


https://the-compensation-experts.co.uk/news/most-dangerous-areas-of-the-home/

Poisoning is a big number according to this
https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/homeowners/analysis/home-accident-and-injury-statistics/#leading-cause-of-death-by-age

Where do most home accidents occur?
Each room in your home can be potentially hazardous, leading to home
accidents. For example, death by poisoning can involve cleaning
materials in your bathroom or kitchen and insecticides in your garage or
garden shed. MoneyGeek’s findings on poisoning fatalities also includes
drug overdose. Drowning is more common in bathrooms or pools.

Choking typically happens in your living or dining room during a meal.
Most people fall on the stairs or in the bathroom.

[Dave Smith]

The statistics are very complicated. First of all, they are likely
often referring to falls that resulted in injuries. People might stumble
or trip and fall in the bedroom or living room but land on something
soft and are uninjured so those falls don't get recorded and don't end
up in the date bases from which the stats are pulled.

I came across one site that reported that falls are the leading cause of
death from injury in older adults and it recommended steps to reduce the
risk of falls, like hand rails. It said that 13% of people injured in
falls in homes without stairs fell in the bathroom and 31% of people
injured in falls in homes without stairs fell in their living room, and
30% of older adults who were injured in falls in homes without stairs
fell in their bedroom.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2024-02-21, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59...@fx48.iad>,
> hami...@invalid.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-02-21, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>> > In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456q...@4ax.com>,
>> > lucr...@florence.it says...
>> >
>> >> My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
>> >> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
>> >> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.
>> >>
>> > Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
>> > be safer living in a tent.
>>
>> Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
>> room in the house.
>
> Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
> start in the kitchen.

Ok, fine. Make me cite my sources.

https://convenientheight.com/healthcare/the-smallest-room-in-your-home-is-the-most-dangerous-place

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2024-02-21, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 2/21/2024 2:33 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article <CtnBN.90784$Sf59...@fx48.iad>,
>> hami...@invalid.com says...
>>>
>>> On 2024-02-21, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <kvobtilnhmeu6456q...@4ax.com>,
>>>> lucr...@florence.it says...
>>>>
>>>>> My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete
>>>>> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
>>>>> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds to me as if your building is a deathtrap. You'd
>>>> be safer living in a tent.
>>>
>>> Old people fall down in the bathroom. It's the most dangerous
>>> room in the house.
>>
>> Probably more falls happen on staircases. More fires
>> start in the kitchen.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Stairs come in at 16% for total accidents. Garden is very high for
> total accidents. Falls may differ but not shown here.

Old people avoid stairs.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye sure didn't.

[Ed P]

Most do. I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
instead of using the powder room nearby. It is a form of exercise that
I'm willing to avoid.

I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my
knees.

[Bruce]

Especially after a couple of drinks.

[Bruce]

I think there are a lot more stairs in the old world than in the new.

[Dave Smith]

When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who rode
the elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It was no
surprise to see that they tended to be those who most needed to use the
stairs.

[Bruce]

Did you tell them?

[Hank Rogers]

Officer dave, you should have at least given them a warning ticket.

[jmcquown]

On 2/21/2024 5:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-21, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 2/20/2024 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-20 7:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
>>>>> And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due
>>>>> to our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone,
>>>>> 1.8 million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in
>>>> the first place.  What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait
>>>> for a phone call (or text)?  It's ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know about you but there is no surer way to get my phone to ring
>>> than to go to the bathroom and not taking my phone with me. It only has
>>> to be close enough to access it before it stops ringing.
>>>
>> I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
>> bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
>> work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
>> a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
>> reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
>> the toilet.
>
> I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
> pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
> I make sure all my pants have pockets.
>

I have cordless phones but I don't put them in my pants/shorts pockets
to take to the bathroom with me.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Sure they do. So do young people. When I was 23 years old I slipped
and fell in the bathtub while taking a shower. I was at home alone.
Fortunately I wasn't hurt but I could have been. Cell phones weren't at
all common in 1983. What would you have suggested I do? Stop taking
showers when I was at home by myself? This is why there are things like
grab-bars in bathrooms.

Jill

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Ed P wrote:
>
> I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my
> knees.
>

Me, too! My knees only bother me if I'm kneeling then they begin screaming.

A former WebTV pal has a two-story house and was really wanting to move and
buy something single storey. But they looked into one of those stairlift
systems and picked one up at half the price but with a full warranty.

[jmcquown]

On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

There is a new house being built practically across the street that is a
2 story house. One that was built down the street last year is also a 2
story house. One would think older people would avoid stairs, yet they
are still building brand new 2 story houses. Go figure.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I fell in the shower when one morning getting ready for work. I thought
was okay but when We stopped for coffee on the way the the district
office I was walking like a drunk. My boss wondered what was wrong but
i told him i felt fine...... then i ran to the can and puked. He sent me
home.

He offered to have someone drive me but I thought I could manage. Bad
move. I was having trouble, but within a few minutes I was fine. I
got in to see my doctor that afternoon and he found no problem. I
didn't have to feel quilty about a free day off. I had been willing to
stay but he sent me home.

[Ed P]

When I stay in NJ, it is actually on the third level. No problem
though. Elevator.

It is a duplex. First level is split half and half, left/right. First
level is the other owner full width, she is top level, 2400 sq. ft.

[Bruce]

So that doctor didn't realise you had a concussion...

[jmcquown]

Obviously an elevator is different from climbing stairs. These homes
near me don't have elevators. Probably bathrooms on the 2nd floor. But
hopefully they have grab bars in the bathroom. I don't bathe with them
so I wouldn't know. ;)

Jill

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

> I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
> pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
> I make sure all my pants have pockets.

There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.
Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?
I just put a billion dollar idea in somebody's head, and I won't profit
a dime. Story of my life. :(

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2024-02-21, lucr...@florence.it <lucr...@florence.it> wrote:

> The bathroom is the most dangerous space in your home. It pays to
> take a phone in there when you are going to bathe/shower, it is also
> suggested one place it lower where you could reach it from the floor
> if need be. My building is older and constructed of heavy concrete

> and over the years I have lived here, three people have died in their
> bathrooms, unable to make anyone hear them calling or knocking.

Yeah, and a cellphone holder to be mounted at about two feet off the
floor in the bathroom. Why isn't someone onto this?
We don't need no stinkin' "Help me, I can't get up!", it's right there
in our hands.
Since I'm hoity toity, my watch does that.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

Amen! I have a step-up to my porch that I've been eyeing for solutions.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2024-02-21, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I think there are a lot more stairs in the old world than in the new.

Where I live, it seems that the majority of new homes are two-story.
Youngsters don't think of old age.

[dsi1]

It is curious that clothing in the year 2024, does not have a pocket to accommodate that most ubiquitous and culturally significant device. I used to have dress pants that had a cell phone pocket hidden inside the right front pocket. It was wonderful. I've also had cargo pants. The thigh pocket works okay but cargo pants ain't for everybody - people who are afraid of looking like dorks, for instance. Having a secret, trick, pocket is a lot better.

[Ed P]

I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv

[Ed P]

Very common in places where land is expensive. There are a lot of
economic advantages to a two story. Such as a 2000 sq. ft. house only
needs a 1000 sq. ft. roof and foundation.

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:38:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Which is why all toilets have an NFC or bluetooth anti-levitator
>> water resistant hardware and firmware installed rather than a
>> sharp pointy object at the bottom of the toilet. Am I right,
>> David?
>
> You're in a manic phase. Please let your doctor know about this. Of course, you won't do it. At least take your meds.

<yawn!>

And there goes David..... Poof! I'll miss your fortune telling,
ersatz knowledge of all things computers, and all your other
unsolicited "guesses", and how life sucks on that miserable rock.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:04:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> On 2/19/2024 11:26 PM, Ed P wrote:
>> On 2/19/2024 11:04 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:35:21 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I spotted this at my lower extremity orthopedist today when I got
>>>> off on the wrong floor and had to take a pee first.
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/dsJueOS
>>>>
>>>> Common sense has gone to the shitter.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> Who'd want to put their hands in the toilet to begin with???

>>
>> How many cell phones are dropped in the toilet each year?
>> And the study suggests that lots of us have lost or damaged items due to
>> our toilet habits. Direct Line says that in the last year alone, 1.8
>> million people have dropped their mobile phone down the toilet.
>
> I don't know why people take their phones with them to the toilet in the
> first place. What is so incredibly important a person cannot wait for a
> phone call (or text)? It's ridiculous.

We keep them in our pockets usually. What are we supposed to do,
leave them out in the waiting room or in our shopping carts?

But even then when pulling up your pants, a partially exposed
phone can catch an awkward crease in the fabric and flip out of
the pocket and into the shitter.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:23:54 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> I don't have a cell phone. If I get a call at home when I'm in the
> bathroom they can darn well leave me a message. When I got home from
> work today there was a message from my doctor's office. No biggie, just
> a follow-up reminder to schedule an appointment. I've never found a
> reason to carry a phone into the bathroom, much less possibly drop it in
> the toilet.

You should just sit this one out. You're being ridiculous.

I always take my phone into the bathroom when I'm out in public.
Everybody does.

-sw

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2024-02-22, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

> I have a holder on my belt. Like this one

> http://tinyurl.com/vpvsjzmv

Thanks to our genderless society, that would look great on a short
cocktail dress. Hubba hubba!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Thanks for the compliment. I'm going shopping for cocktail dresses
tomorrow. Do they come in 2XL?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

Not yet, I don't think, without mucho moola. What color of holder and
belt were you thinking along with dress dimensions? I know a gal.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Of course not. They're probably too big for your pants pocket.

I like the convenience of having my cell phone in my pocket. If it
rings, I don't have to run to the other end of the house to answer.

Plus, I use it for various alarms. Notably, the 9 am "Call Mom and
remind her to take her pills." I realize you don't use your landline
handsets for that sort of thing.

It's 5 am and I have my cell phone in my pocket right now. It's
part of the wake up routine: close the window, put on slippers,
cell phone in pocket, head for the bathroom.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Is there a first-floor bedroom suite? That can make a lot of difference.
The kids can use the second-floor bedroom(s) when they visit, while
the owners fort up in the first-floor bedroom.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2024-02-22, Leonard Blaisdell <leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2024-02-21, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I take it you don't put things in your pants pockets. If you wear
>> pants. If they have pockets. I don't wear skirts or dresses and
>> I make sure all my pants have pockets.
>
>
> There ought to be a cellphone pocket on all modern clothing.

I'd be grateful if clothing manufacturers decided there ought to
be usable pockets in all women's pants.

> Cargo shorts have them. A extra pocket should be provided on the thigh
> of all modern clothing. Why aren't they doing that?

Fashion. It would spoil the lines.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2024-02-22, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

Yes, they do. I'm surprised a man of your taste and discrimination
doesn't already own a little black dress.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 5:20:03 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

> > On 2024-02-21 5:20 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> >> On 2/21/2024 5:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >>

> >> Most do. I have a friend that will go up the stairs to the bathroom
> >> instead of using the powder room nearby. It is a form of exercise that
> >> I'm willing to avoid.

> >>
> >> I like having a house with no stairs. Not so much for safety as for my
> >> knees.
> >
> >

> > When I joined the Y I was surprised to see a number of people who rode the
> > elevator from the locker room up one floor to the gym. It was no surprise
> > to see that they tended to be those who most needed to use the stairs.
> Officer dave, you should have at least given them a warning ticket.


Or a severely harsh verbal reprimand - or even a "citizen's arrest"...!!!

THAT would shake up the lazy shiftless bums...!!!

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

How much information do you want. I usually go for my morning crap
naked. Then I climb into the shower. The phone would be stuck in the
pocket of my pants in the bedroom.

[Dave Smith]

Years ago I was shopping for a dress shirt and kept reject those that
the salesman was trying to foist on me. I rejected them because they did
not have a chest pocket. He told me they weren't making mens' shirts
with chest pockets anymore. I told him there was no way I would buy a
shirt without a pocket. It was just a few months later they started
carrying shirts with pockets again.