It is a BEAUTIFUL MORNING in Da Lou!

[John Kuthe]

Say JAH, Rastafari!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[Occi Pital]

On 5/17/2022 6:56 AM, eat shit, KOOKthe:

> S

Nobody cares, you childishly stupid fucktard. DIE!

[Alex]

John Kuthe wrote:
> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Enjoy them while you can.  Foreclosure for non-payment of taxes will
happen sooner than you realize!

[André Malraux]

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 8:56:50 AM UTC-5, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

And as Senator Rick Scott of Florida commented recently:

“It’s simple. The most effective thing Joe Biden can do to solve the inflation crisis he created is resign. He’s the
problem. Getting him out of office is a quick and easy solution. Let’s be honest here. Joe Biden is unwell. He’s
unfit for office. He’s incoherent, incapacitated and confused. He doesn’t know where he is half the time. He’s
incapable of leading and he’s incapable of carrying out his duties. Period. Everyone knows it. No one is
willing to say it. But we have to, for the sake of the country. Joe Biden can’t do the job.”

[Bryan Simmons]

He needs to sell that giant house. He will
never have tenants. No one wants to live
with a mentally ill old pervert.

--Bryan

[Hank Rogers]

I didn't realize the rainbow ranch was so big. The pics I've seen
appear to be like one of those long skinny row houses. How many sq
ft is the joint?

[GM]

Unlimited, as in John's mind he owns the air rights...

--
GM

[Cindy Hamilton]

1933 square feet

<https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3068-Bellerive-Dr-Saint-Louis-MO-63121/2694750_zpid/>

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

Including the famous basement?

[Alex]

$210K for that dump?  No thanks.

[GM]

The adjacent homes are nice and well - kept - and of course John's "landscaping"
looks a super - hot mess...

--
GM

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, but it has a really nice roof.

Houses are really cheap in Da Loo. I'm amazed to see so many sub 100k.

https://tinyurl.com/b5pk7cu6

I'm tempted to buy a half dozen for an investment and fix them up. I
could rent them out for student housing.

[GM]

I like that $24.9K "fixer - upper"... very "Green Acres"...

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Next you'll be wearing purple panties, beating a djembe and
whacking off every sunday.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/18/2022 9:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/18/2022 8:05 PM, Alex wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-18, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 6:48:16 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

>>>>>>> Enjoy them while you can.  Foreclosure for non-payment of taxes

>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> happen sooner than you realize!
>>>>>>>

>>>>>> He needs to sell that giant house.  He will
>>>>>> never have tenants.  No one wants to live

>>>>>> with a mentally ill old pervert.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realize the rainbow ranch was so big. The pics I've seen
>>>>> appear to be like one of those long skinny row houses. How many sq
>>>>> ft is the joint?
>>>> 1933 square feet
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3068-Bellerive-Dr-Saint-Louis-MO-63121/2694750_zpid/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>> $210K for that dump?  No thanks.

>>
>> Yes, but it has a really nice roof.
>>
>> Houses are really cheap in Da Loo.  I'm amazed to see so many sub 100k.
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/b5pk7cu6
>>
>> I'm tempted to buy a half dozen for an investment and fix them up. I
>> could rent them out for student housing.
>
> Next you'll be wearing purple panties, beating a djembe and whacking off
> every sunday.
>
>
>
>

I've been shopping
https://tinyurl.com/4bf8nd79

[Bryan Simmons]

The basement would not be included in the
square footage.

--Bryan

[Hank Rogers]

You'll look great in the JOINFUN model ( about 3 lines down)
Be sure they have your size. Never mind, it's amazon so you can
always return them.

[Bryan Simmons]

John's house might be a "dump," but only
because of its occupant. It has a nice roof.
The issue is one person living there who has
no income. He could sell it and buy a small
house, and have almost 100K to live on
before taking SS. Yeah, he'd have to give up
on his delusion of being Mayor, but that was
never going to happen anyway.

--Bryan

[GM]

He could be Mayor of Munchkin Land...!!!

=-O

--
GM

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/18/2022 9:50 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/18/2022 9:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/18/2022 8:05 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-05-18, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 6:48:16 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

>>>>>>>>> Enjoy them while you can.  Foreclosure for non-payment of

>>>>>>>>> taxes will
>>>>>>>>> happen sooner than you realize!
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> He needs to sell that giant house.  He will
>>>>>>>> never have tenants.  No one wants to live

>>>>>>>> with a mentally ill old pervert.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't realize the rainbow ranch was so big. The pics I've seen
>>>>>>> appear to be like one of those long skinny row houses. How many sq
>>>>>>> ft is the joint?
>>>>>> 1933 square feet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3068-Bellerive-Dr-Saint-Louis-MO-63121/2694750_zpid/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>> $210K for that dump?  No thanks.

>>>>
>>>> Yes, but it has a really nice roof.
>>>>

>>>> Houses are really cheap in Da Loo.  I'm amazed to see so many sub

>>>> 100k.
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/b5pk7cu6
>>>>
>>>> I'm tempted to buy a half dozen for an investment and fix them up. I
>>>> could rent them out for student housing.
>>>
>>> Next you'll be wearing purple panties, beating a djembe and whacking
>>> off every sunday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I've been shopping
>> https://tinyurl.com/4bf8nd79
>>
>
> You'll look great in the JOINFUN model ( about 3 lines down)
> Be sure they have your size. Never mind, it's amazon so you can always
> return them.
>

At my age, the butt lift feature is a plus.

[Michael Trew]

It sure doesn't look that big from the outside, but I assume that detail
comes from the tax site.

My house is about 1,800 square feet, and that encompasses the 4 rooms on
the main floor, three bedrooms, and large bath with separate water
closet. Honestly, it's way too much house for me, and that figure
doesn't even include the finished walk up attic or the cellar.

[Michael Trew]

On 5/18/2022 21:10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Houses are really cheap in Da Loo. I'm amazed to see so many sub 100k.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/b5pk7cu6
>
> I'm tempted to buy a half dozen for an investment and fix them up. I
> could rent them out for student housing.

I'm surprised as well. We've always had lots of sub $100k houses in my
area, but since this recent housing boom, even East Liverpool housing
costs have gone way up. The 10-15K houses are totally gone; only empty
lots for under $25K now. Any decent houses are 50K plus now, and
anything under that (even if in a bad area) is typically already
"pending" by the time that you look at the listing.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-05-19, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> I've been shopping
> https://tinyurl.com/4bf8nd79
>

Why, oh why, did I click that link? Now I'm going to have to answer for
it when my husband uses our Amazon account. He doesn't like purple.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[André Malraux]

There's a lot the little fellow doesn't like, isn't there? He's a bit
of an adult Michael Trew, by the sound of it. Is he afraid of dogs and
flying too?

--
André Malraux
<https://cdn.britannica.com/20/109120-050-C8214147/Andre-Malraux.jpg>

[Gary]

I've always wondered if basements were included in sq.footage. I just
looked that up. Seems that they are not, even when finished. That seems
a bit wrong to me.

[Sheldon Martin]

Attics aren't included in sq footage either. Goat barns aren't real
houses either... without the C-ment slab they'd be pig stys.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 19 May 2022 07:25:24 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

Why wrong, normal human beings don't consider a c-ment slab living
space, nor an attic. A c-ment slab is a garage and an attic is a hay
loft.

[Gary]

You have a basement and you do use it. Why not more sq ft.

[Dave Smith]

I learned that when I use Google to shop for products online I end up
getting all kinds of ads for those products popping up on my screen. I
got into the practice of Googling sexy lingerie at the end of my
shopping sessions. Now I get ads for lingerie. ;-)

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/19/2022 10:05 AM, Gary wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Including the famous basement?
>>>
>>> I've always wondered if basements were included in sq.footage. I just
>>> looked that up. Seems that they are not, even when finished. That seems
>>> a bit wrong to me.
>>
>> Why wrong, normal human beings don't consider a c-ment slab living
>> space, nor an attic.  A c-ment slab is a garage and an attic is a hay
>> loft.
>
> You have a basement and you do use it. Why not more sq ft.
>
>

Tradition? Depends on the basement. Some are quite nice. well
finished, used as living space for game rooms, bar, etc. Others are
swamps with water when it rains, sump pumps, mold,assorted slime. Many
have dirt floors. Some you cannot even stand up in.

[Bryan Simmons]

Here, you can get a permit to "finish" your basement,
and then include that in the sq ft of the house, but
when you get the permit the county will know that
you have a finished basement, and your property tax
will go up.

--Bryan

[Ed Pawlowski]

It can be worse. John Oliver did an episode on data brokers.

The entire show it good but watch from 18 minutes for the best part.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-05-19, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> You have a basement and you do use it. Why not more sq ft.

Most basements--even finished ones--are not livable space,
so there's no point including it in the square footage.

Why not include the square footage of an attached garage?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

My parents lived in a side split house. The garage and front door were
at ground level. There was a hallway to a bathroom and a set up stairs
to go up to the main floor or down to the basement. It was quite livable
down there. They had a nicely finished rec room, a bedroom/den, a
laundry room, work shop, bathroom and a pool table. I spent more time
down there than I did upstairs.

[Bryan Simmons]

When our house was built, the basement could have
been finished into living space, but at some point
they filled in the egress to the back yard, so it cannot
be called living space.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 19 May 2022 Gary wrote:
>On 5/19/2022 10:00 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 Gary wrote:

>>> On 5/18/2022 Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>>>> On 2022-05-18, Hank Roger wrote:
>>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:

>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>> Enjoy them while you can.  Foreclosure for non-payment of taxes will
>>>>>>>> happen sooner than you realize!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He needs to sell that giant house.  He will
>>>>>>> never have tenants.  No one wants to live
>>>>>>> with a mentally ill old pervert.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't realize the rainbow ranch was so big. The pics I've seen
>>>>>> appear to be like one of those long skinny row houses. How many sq
>>>>>> ft is the joint?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1933 square feet
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3068-Bellerive-Dr-Saint-Louis-MO-63121/2694750_zpid/>
>>>>
>>>> Including the famous basement?
>>>
>>> I've always wondered if basements were included in sq.footage. I just
>>> looked that up. Seems that they are not, even when finished. That seems
>>> a bit wrong to me.
>>
>> Why wrong, normal human beings don't consider a c-ment slab living
>> space, nor an attic. A c-ment slab is a garage and an attic is a hay
>> loft.
>
>You have a basement and you do use it. Why not more sq ft.

Because my basement is NOT living space. When a realtor talks
sq.footage they mean living space, not storage space. My basement has
no bathroom, no kitchen, no heat, no AC, and only two small casement
windows, not even a door to the outside. It's good living space for
the cats. I truly consider a building on a slab less than a barn...
no self respecting goat would live on a slab. A real house has a
basement, a building without a basement is a shed, a place to park a
lawnmower. I don't consider a building on a slab worthy of a
mortgage.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/19/2022 2:52 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> Because my basement is NOT living space. When a realtor talks
> sq.footage they mean living space, not storage space. My basement has
> no bathroom, no kitchen, no heat, no AC, and only two small casement
> windows, not even a door to the outside. It's good living space for
> the cats. I truly consider a building on a slab less than a barn...
> no self respecting goat would live on a slab. A real house has a
> basement, a building without a basement is a shed, a place to park a
> lawnmower. I don't consider a building on a slab worthy of a
> mortgage.

Sheldon had a good point. Most basements are dungeons and places to
party when your dominatrix visits. Plenty of storage space for the
whips and chains.

My goats don't come in the shed but since I don't have a lawnmower they
use that space to sleep. Fortunately, I did not need a mortgage.

[jmcquown]

You keep saying that about houses built on cement slabs [aka without
basements], Sheldon. So I asked the residential home inspectors who
work across the hall from my office how often they encounter a house
with an actual basement in this area. 99.5% of the time they DON'T,
although they did inspect one house where a guy did dig a bomb shelter
because he expected the Russians to invade during the Cold War.

Houses built in this area are either elevated above ground, built on
pylons with crawlspaces underneath or they are built on slabs. Ever
heard of flooding? In a great number of places there is no point to
having a basement; they simply don't make sense.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

So, what you're telling Sheldon is that 99.5% of the
houses in your area aren't fit for goats to live in.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Alex]

He destroyed the interior.  Someone would have to gut the place rather
than trying to repaint and repair the damage.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Arguing with Sheldon is like arguing with Kuthe. I've killfiled them
both, as neither one has anything to contribute to this group.

Ob. Food: I think tomorrow we might be making meatballs:
<https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/real-meatballs-and-spaghetti-recipe-1946027>

We have our own seasoned bread crumbs (always have some in the freezer).
I don't use that much nutmeg. We'll use our own sauce. (In fact, these
are so good I usually eat the first couple without sauce.)

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

More to tax me on. NO THANKS! I use my cellar for storage, laundry,
and a "work shop". Attic is a full finished walk up, but no heat, and
only one single electric outlet despite 3 rooms (120+ year old house).

[André Malraux]

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 8:56:50 AM UTC-5, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

You wouldn't know a joke if it smacked you in the face. In fact, I do drink kefir.
Feel free to chug down a quart of buttermilk if you think it's so awesome - little miss Google.

[cshenk]

Don't move to Hampton Roads then. Water table is too high for a
basement. There may be a few of them, but they'd be located on our few
hills. We do have some with crawlspaces and oddly on a realtor search,
they show as basements...

Different area of the land from you. We are 5-15feet above sealevel
here.

I'm about 10miles from the Atlantic. Gary seems to be walking distance
to it.

[cshenk]

Actually, no he didn't destroy the interior. He did create a wall with
a door in an odd sort of cul-de-sac part to make another bedroom. He
added a pantry shelf and a stained glass window. Some 'not great'
painting jobs on front door but easily fixed.

[Sheldon Martin]

In high water table areas intelligent builders construct a house on a
higher foundation... it's what's done in most waterfront areas...
protects a house from flooding during windstorms plus allows for a dry
basement. Many homes are constructed that way on Lung Guyland... the
same in Belize... during hurricanes the sea water runs under the
house. The houses are built on pilings:
https://postimg.cc/LY878Ykg/b3cbfea9

[jmcquown]

"Allows for a dry basement" is a contradictory statement. There are no
basements in houses near the ocean that are built on pilons. Why on
earth do you insist everyone needs a basement?!

Jill

[Michael Trew]

I think he insisted on a foundation, not a "basement" in particular. As
I've read it, Sheldon is anti slab-house.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/22/2022 9:46 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

>> Different area of the land from you. We are 5-15feet above sealevel
>> here.
>>
>> I'm about 10miles from the Atlantic. Gary seems to be walking distance
>> to it.
>
> In high water table areas intelligent builders construct a house on a
> higher foundation... it's what's done in most waterfront areas...
> protects a house from flooding during windstorms plus allows for a dry
> basement. Many homes are constructed that way on Lung Guyland... the
> same in Belize... during hurricanes the sea water runs under the
> house. The houses are built on pilings:
> https://postimg.cc/LY878Ykg/b3cbfea9
>

The alleged basement is really the first floor on a slab. My friend's
beach front property is like that. It is not a basement, just the lowest
level that functions like one. By code they cannot call it living space.

[jmcquown]

Houses built near the water on pilons do have a raised (cement slab)
framed foundations. Believe me, I've seen a number of houses being
built on this island over the years. There is only a crawlspace
underneath those pilings. No dug in basements. He says houses built on
slabs are "goat barns". He once suggested a basement would be an
excellent place to go during a hurricane. Only if you have a death wish.

Jill

[cshenk]

Don't get stupid Sheldon. You are well inland and know *nothing* about
here.

[Bryan Simmons]

If Sheldon had one of those, he could keep
goats in it.

--Bryan

[Hank Rogers]

As long as there's room for the RO water filter, he'd be happy.

[André Malraux]

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 8:56:50 AM UTC-5, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

I base it on your behaviour. Who cares what your ancestors did, other
than for anecdotal entertainment?

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sun, 22 May 2022 17:02:56 -0500, "cshenk"

Only a stupid $5 whore believes that people have only lived in one
place. Being inland still floods... lakes, rivers, and creeks flood.

[jmcquown]

You're calling a fellow Navy person a $5 whore? She didn't say inland
places never flood. She said you don't know a thing about where *she*
lives. Only an idiot believes every house requires a basement. Be
careful you don't fall down those basement stairs when your wife is out
of town. The cats might make a meal out of you.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

Sheldon is living in the past. There's no such thing
as a $5 whore these days.

>
>Only an idiot believes every house requires a basement. Be
> careful you don't fall down those basement stairs when your wife is out
> of town. The cats might make a meal out of you.
>

Well, at least he won't die in a goat barn. ;-)
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

On 5/20/2022 5:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Ob. Food: I think tomorrow we might be making meatballs:
> <https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/real-meatballs-and-spaghetti-recipe-1946027>
>
> We have our own seasoned bread crumbs (always have some in the freezer).
> I don't use that much nutmeg. We'll use our own sauce. (In fact, these
> are so good I usually eat the first couple without sauce.)
>

I neglected to mention the meatballs sound really good. :)

Jill

[cshenk]

> > Don't get stupid Sheldon. You are well inland and know nothing

> > about here.
>
> Only a stupid $5 whore believes that people have only lived in one
> place. Being inland still floods... lakes, rivers, and creeks flood.

There huge differences in being on the real coast of a major ocean
subject to hurricanes and tidal waves inland as well as the lower land
elevation of coastal areas elevation. You are way too far inland to
have to worry about tidal surges.

[cshenk]

> > > Don't get stupid Sheldon. You are well inland and know nothing

> > > about here.
> >
> > Only a stupid $5 whore believes that people have only lived in one
> > place. Being inland still floods... lakes, rivers, and creeks
> > flood.
>
>
> You're calling a fellow Navy person a $5 whore? She didn't say
> inland places never flood. She said you don't know a thing about

> where she lives. Only an idiot believes every house requires a

> basement. Be careful you don't fall down those basement stairs when
> your wife is out of town. The cats might make a meal out of you.
>
> Jill

Sheldon has his bad moments and this was one of them. Sheldon has
probably never seen his street 5ft deep in water with cars floating off
on their own. Like you say, he has no congruance to this areas's
specififics.

[jmcquown]

Inland places definitely flood. I saw a good bit of street flooding
when I lived in the fairly flat Memphis area. Mostly due to poor street
drainage. Didn't see any cars float off, though.

What flooding has to do with Sheldon's conviction houses *must* have
basements is a mystery. I've lived in houses with basements and houses
without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to having a basement.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

Storage, workshop, laundry area, added half bath (water closet),
space for HVAC and water heater, all on the same footprint and
under the same roof, and shelter from tornadoes. Apparently,
thinking is not your strong suit.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-05-25, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> What flooding has to do with Sheldon's conviction houses *must* have
> basements is a mystery. I've lived in houses with basements and houses
> without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to having a basement.

It certainly gives us some nice climate-controlled storage. We couldn't
put our spare fridge in the garage, which is unheated.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

+1

[Ed Pawlowski]

Fine if you can. In this area you'd drown.

My laundry is under the same roof too. No steps to go up and down
carrying clothes either. Our first house had the laundry in the
basement and it is a horrid place to put it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-05-25, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 5/24/2022 21:24, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 7:59:01 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>> I've lived in houses with basements and houses
>>>> without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to having a
>>>> basement.
>>>>
>>> Storage, workshop, laundry area, added half bath (water closet),
>>> space for HVAC and water heater, all on the same footprint and
>>> under the same roof, and shelter from tornadoes.
>>
>> +1
>
> Fine if you can. In this area you'd drown.

That's different from being unable to think of a benefit to having a
basement.

> My laundry is under the same roof too. No steps to go up and down
> carrying clothes either. Our first house had the laundry in the
> basement and it is a horrid place to put it.

We moved our laundry up from the basement. It might be the single
best thing we did to the house in our 22 years here.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Graham]

I moved my laundry into the basement some 25 years ago while renovating
the ground floor. I constructed what I intended to be a *temporary*
plumbing and power set-up for it. The laundry closet on the ground floor
is now used for storage!

[S Viemeister]

On 25/05/2022 16:52, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> We moved our laundry up from the basement. It might be the single
> best thing we did to the house in our 22 years here.
>

Our NJ house has the laundry in the basement. The basement staircase has
steep stairs, no handrail.
I hate it.

In Scotland, I just walk along the back hallway to the laundry room.
The laundry room has an outside door, so when we've been working in the
garden and are covered with muck, we just come in, strip off, pop the
clothes in the machine, and clean up in the adjacent shower room. No
traipsing through the house in clarty clothes.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I always figured I'd die of a broken neck at the bottom of the basement
stairs tangled up in a basket of laundry. Ground-floor laundry is a
thing of beauty.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[André Malraux]

"Definition of 'clarty'
clarty in British English
Scottish and Northern England dialect
dirty, esp covered in mud; filthy"
<https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/clarty>

I thought I'd provide some clarity.

--
André Malraux
<https://cdn.britannica.com/20/109120-050-C8214147/Andre-Malraux.jpg>

[S Viemeister]

On 25/05/2022 20:06, Andr� Malraux wrote:
> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 25/05/2022 16:52, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> We moved our laundry up from the basement. It might be the single
>>> best thing we did to the house in our 22 years here.
>> Our NJ house has the laundry in the basement. The basement staircase has
>> steep stairs, no handrail.
>> I hate it.
>>
>> In Scotland, I just walk along the back hallway to the laundry room.
>> The laundry room has an outside door, so when we've been working in the
>> garden and are covered with muck, we just come in, strip off, pop the
>> clothes in the machine, and clean up in the adjacent shower room. No
>> traipsing through the house in clarty clothes.
>
> "Definition of 'clarty'
> clarty in British English
> Scottish and Northern England dialect
> dirty, esp covered in mud; filthy"
> <https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/clarty>
>
> I thought I'd provide some clarity.
>

Thank you, sir, very kind of you.

I should have coupled 'clarty' with 'clathes'. Clarty clathes.

[André Malraux]

I didn't ken that word either.

[S Viemeister]

On 25/05/2022 20:19, Andr� Malraux wrote:

> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

>> I should have coupled 'clarty' with 'clathes'. Clarty clathes.
>
> I didn't ken that word either.
>

How would you say that in Dutch?

[André Malraux]

Ik ken dat woord niet. (I know that word not.)

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 26 May 2022 05:06:23 +1000, Andr?alraux
<Mal...@nopls.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 May 2022 18:43:49 +0100, S Viemeister
><firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
>>On 25/05/2022 16:52, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> We moved our laundry up from the basement. It might be the single
>>> best thing we did to the house in our 22 years here.
>>>
>>Our NJ house has the laundry in the basement. The basement staircase has
>>steep stairs, no handrail.

Why no handrail? A hand rail is super easy to add.

[S Viemeister]

On 25/05/2022 20:34, Andr� Malraux wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:32:27 +0100, S Viemeister
> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
>> On 25/05/2022 20:19, Andr� Malraux wrote:
>>
>>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>
>>>> I should have coupled 'clarty' with 'clathes'. Clarty clathes.
>>>
>>> I didn't ken that word either.
>>>
>> How would you say that in Dutch?
>
> Ik ken dat woord niet. (I know that word not.)
>

Some Scots dialects have surprisingly Dutch-sounding words. Back when I
could still speak German, I found that German plus Scots, helped me
understand quite a bit of Dutch.
And you needn't have translated that phrase - the meaning is quite clear!

[S Viemeister]

VERY narrow - there's barely room to go up and down with a laundry basket.

[André Malraux]

On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:55:24 +0100, S Viemeister

<firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

>On 25/05/2022 20:34, Andr� Malraux wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:32:27 +0100, S Viemeister
>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/05/2022 20:19, Andr� Malraux wrote:
>>>
>>>> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I should have coupled 'clarty' with 'clathes'. Clarty clathes.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ken that word either.
>>>>
>>> How would you say that in Dutch?
>>
>> Ik ken dat woord niet. (I know that word not.)
>>
>Some Scots dialects have surprisingly Dutch-sounding words. Back when I
>could still speak German, I found that German plus Scots, helped me
>understand quite a bit of Dutch.
>And you needn't have translated that phrase - the meaning is quite clear!

Yes. One of the Sir Walter Scott books I read a long time ago, came
with a Scottish word list, to help English readers. Some of those
words were the same as in Dutch. I remember kirk/kerk, for instance.

[Ed Pawlowski]

You cleared clarty.

[Hank Rogers]

Master loves to sniff the behind of clarty britches.

[jmcquown]

On 5/25/2022 10:33 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 5/24/2022 21:24, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 7:59:01 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>> I've lived in houses with basements and houses
>>>> without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to having a
>>>> basement.
>>>>
>>> Storage, workshop, laundry area, added half bath (water closet),
>>> space for HVAC and water heater, all on the same footprint and
>>> under the same roof, and shelter from tornadoes.
>>
>> +1
>
> Fine if you can.  In this area you'd drown.
>

Same in this area, if it flooded you'd drown in a basement.

I don't have a workshop. The HVAC unit is outside and parts of it in
the attic. The water heater is in the garage. No tornadoes to speak
of, either (although the best place to be in lieu of a basement during a
tornado is an inside bathroom, one not near an exterior wall, or an
interior closet.)

> My laundry is under the same roof too.  No steps to go up and down
> carrying clothes either.

My laundry room is right off the kitchen. Everything in this house is
on the same floor. No stairs. I like it that way. I have no need for
a basement.

Jill

[jmcquown]

As a kid I lived in houses with the laundry in the basement. I remember
helping my mother haul clothes up and down the stairs. I would say you
made a good decision! :)

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 10:33 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/25/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2022 21:24, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 7:59:01 PM UTC-5,
>>>> j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>> I've lived in houses with basements and houses
>>>>> without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to
>>>>> having a basement.
>>>>>
>>>> Storage, workshop, laundry area, added half bath (water closet),
>>>> space for HVAC and water heater, all on the same footprint and
>>>> under the same roof, and shelter from tornadoes.
>>>
>>> +1
>>

>> Fine if you can.  In this area you'd drown.

>>
> Same in this area, if it flooded you'd drown in a basement.
>
> I don't have a workshop.  The HVAC unit is outside and parts of it
> in the attic.  The water heater is in the garage.  No tornadoes to
> speak of, either (although the best place to be in lieu of a
> basement during a tornado is an inside bathroom, one not near an
> exterior wall, or an interior closet.)
>

>> My laundry is under the same roof too.  No steps to go up and

>> down carrying clothes either.
>
> My laundry room is right off the kitchen.  Everything in this house
> is on the same floor.  No stairs.  I like it that way.  I have no
> need for a basement.
>
> Jill

Yeah, that's probably why you didn't hit it off with Popeye several
years ago. He could never fuck a wimmens with no basement.

And SO john left too.

Oh, if you only had a basement.

[Hank Rogers]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2022 10:33 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/25/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 5/24/2022 21:24, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 7:59:01 PM UTC-5,
>>>> j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>> I've lived in houses with basements and houses
>>>>> without basements. I cannot think of a single benefit to
>>>>> having a basement.
>>>>>
>>>> Storage, workshop, laundry area, added half bath (water closet),
>>>> space for HVAC and water heater, all on the same footprint and
>>>> under the same roof, and shelter from tornadoes.
>>>
>>> +1
>>

>> Fine if you can.  In this area you'd drown.

>>
> Same in this area, if it flooded you'd drown in a basement.
>
> I don't have a workshop.  The HVAC unit is outside and parts of it
> in the attic.  The water heater is in the garage.  No tornadoes to
> speak of, either (although the best place to be in lieu of a
> basement during a tornado is an inside bathroom, one not near an
> exterior wall, or an interior closet.)
>

>> My laundry is under the same roof too.  No steps to go up and

>> down carrying clothes either.
>
> My laundry room is right off the kitchen.  Everything in this house
> is on the same floor.  No stairs.  I like it that way.  I have no
> need for a basement.
>
> Jill

Basements are for old horny sailors.

You surely will never need one.

[Michael Trew]

It doesn't bother me any. I prefer the laundry out of the way in the
cellar. Of course, I doubt I'd be singing the same tune in 50 years.

[Michael Trew]

My house used to have a back porch, long ago torn off. I like the
concept of having a mud room to enter, rather than the kitchen. Some
day, I'll probably rebuild it, and use it as a mud room/laundry room.
Maybe even a ground floor/half bath next to the laundry if there is
enough room. Either of which would probably be good for resale value
some day.

[cshenk]

Reminds me of a house in NC we redid. It was just a summer job. There
was a similar setup by someone trying to maximize basement spare space
but only one side was structrural. We made it wider, putting in a 36
inch door vice the old 24 inch one. Replaced the steps and added a
middle support so made it bigger after moving the stringer over.

[William Stickers]

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2022 17:02:56 -0500, "cshenk"
> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>
>> Sheldon Martin wrote:

>>
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 19:34:17 -0500, "cshenk"
>>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 Gary wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/19/2022 10:00 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2022 Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-18, Hank Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Say JAH, Rastafari!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy them while you can.  Foreclosure for non-payment of
>>>>> taxes will >>>>>>>> happen sooner than you realize!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He needs to sell that giant house.  He will
>>>>>>>>>>>> never have tenants.  No one wants to live
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a mentally ill old pervert.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't realize the rainbow ranch was so big. The pics I've
>>>>> seen >>>>>> appear to be like one of those long skinny row houses.
>>>>> How many sq >>>>>> ft is the joint?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1933 square feet
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3068-Bellerive-Dr-Saint-Louis-MO-63121/2694750_zpid/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Including the famous basement?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've always wondered if basements were included in sq.footage.
>>> I >> just >>> looked that up. Seems that they are not, even when
>>> finished. >> That seems >>> a bit wrong to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why wrong, normal human beings don't consider a c-ment slab
>>> living >> >> space, nor an attic. A c-ment slab is a garage and an
>>> attic is a >> hay >> loft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have a basement and you do use it. Why not more sq ft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because my basement is NOT living space. When a realtor talks
>>>>> sq.footage they mean living space, not storage space. My basement
>>> has >> no bathroom, no kitchen, no heat, no AC, and only two small
>>> casement >> windows, not even a door to the outside. It's good
>>> living space for >> the cats. I truly consider a building on a slab
>>> less than a barn... >> no self respecting goat would live on a slab.
>>> A real house has a >> basement, a building without a basement is a
>>> shed, a place to park a >> lawnmower. I don't consider a building on
>>> a slab worthy of a >> mortgage.
>>>>
>>>> Don't move to Hampton Roads then. Water table is too high for a
>>>> basement. There may be a few of them, but they'd be located on our
>>>> few hills. We do have some with crawlspaces and oddly on a realtor
>>>> search, they show as basements...
>>>>
>>>> Different area of the land from you. We are 5-15feet above sealevel
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> I'm about 10miles from the Atlantic. Gary seems to be walking
>>>> distance to it.
>>>
>>> In high water table areas intelligent builders construct a house on a
>>> higher foundation... it's what's done in most waterfront areas...
>>> protects a house from flooding during windstorms plus allows for a dry
>>> basement. Many homes are constructed that way on Lung Guyland... the
>>> same in Belize... during hurricanes the sea water runs under the
>>> house. The houses are built on pilings:
>>> https://postimg.cc/LY878Ykg/b3cbfea9
>>
>> Don't get stupid Sheldon. You are well inland and know *nothing* about
>> here.
>
> Only a stupid $5 whore believes that people have only lived in one
> place. Being inland still floods... lakes, rivers, and creeks flood.
>
LOL!