OT: a Day Off!

[John Kuthe]

:-)

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 12:49:20 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> :-)
>
Day off what? Your rocker?
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Wannabe Activist and WHINNING! Bi-polar and PROUD of
it!! Also, Boarding House Proprietor and FAILED Chocolatier.

[Thomas]

Put a stamp on your property tax and mail it. I did as did most other wealthy people.
School tax next. Even bigger.

[John Kuthe]

Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)

Part of my JOB as Home Owner of my Shared International Student Living house!

John Kuthe, Home Owner of my Shared International Student Living house!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:16:23 PM UTC-5, Thomas wrote:
>
> Put a stamp on your property tax and mail it. I did as did most other wealthy people.
>

I paid mine in person, no less, February 25 as I'm 3 miles from the county
clerks office and was headed out to do some shopping. It was just a loop
from my house to the tax accessor office then to get on the interstate.

>
> School tax next. Even bigger.
>

That's included in my property taxes as is garbage collection, fire protection,
police force, etc.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)
>

You don't wash kitchen wares after they're used?

You only do laundry in the Spring? And you consider doing a load of laundry as
Spring cleaning??
>
> Part of my JOB as a Boarding House Owner!

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:36:45 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)
> >
> You don't wash kitchen wares after they're used?

Constantly!!

> You only do laundry in the Spring? And you consider doing a load of laundry as
> Spring cleaning??

No! Just a routine load of laundry for me! On this BEAUTIFUL COOL SUNNY BREEZY SPRING DAY of several to come! :-) So NO RUSH!! ;-)

I LOVE being Retired! Self-supporting, etc. And I don't even HAVE to WORK!! :-)

To ME THIS IS MY DAY OFF!

John Kuthe, Wealthier Than You Can Imagine! :-)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 2:49:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
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> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:36:45 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)
> > >
> > You don't wash kitchen wares after they're used?
>
> Constantly!!
>

So, why the rewash? Or did the boarders do the washing and you don't trust
their thoroughness?

>
> > You only do laundry in the Spring? And you consider doing a load of laundry as
> > Spring cleaning??
>
> No! Just a routine load of laundry for me! On this BEAUTIFUL COOL SUNNY BREEZY SPRING DAY of several to come! :-) So NO RUSH!! ;-)
>

I do laundry of some sort every week. But I choose not to do it on a Saturday
when there is an overload on the power grid.

>
> I LOVE being Retired! Self-supporting, etc. And I don't even HAVE to WORK!! :-)
>

I'm retired, too, and self-supporting as I get four (4) checks from investment
accounts and Social Security. Therefore, I don't have to work either and
everyday is the week-end!!!

>
> To ME THIS IS MY DAY OFF!
>

E.V.E.R.D.A.Y is my day off.

>
> John Kuthe, Climate Wannabe Activist and WHINNING! Bi-polar and PROUD of
> it!! Also, Boarding House Proprietor and FAILED Chocolatier.
>

> :-)

[Bruce]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 2:49:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:36:45 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)
>> > >
>> > You don't wash kitchen wares after they're used?
>>
>> Constantly!!
>>
>So, why the rewash? Or did the boarders do the washing and you don't trust
>their thoroughness?
>>
>> > You only do laundry in the Spring? And you consider doing a load of laundry as
>> > Spring cleaning??
>>
>> No! Just a routine load of laundry for me! On this BEAUTIFUL COOL SUNNY BREEZY SPRING DAY of several to come! :-) So NO RUSH!! ;-)
>>
>I do laundry of some sort every week. But I choose not to do it on a Saturday
>when there is an overload on the power grid.

Socialist!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

No, no! Say it ain't so!! I'm just trying to help out the planet by not
doing that chore on the week-end. See how much I've helped mother earth by
delaying this ONE chore?? Can't quite wrap my mind around opening a boarding
house, though.

;-))

[Bruce]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:14:09 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 4:09:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I do laundry of some sort every week. But I choose not to do it on a Saturday
>> >when there is an overload on the power grid.
>>
>> Socialist!
>>
>No, no! Say it ain't so!! I'm just trying to help out the planet by not
>doing that chore on the week-end. See how much I've helped mother earth by
>delaying this ONE chore?? Can't quite wrap my mind around opening a boarding
>house, though.
>
>;-))

Me neither. I'd start by kicking all the boarders out.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-16 5:05 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> I do laundry of some sort every week. But I choose not to do it on a Saturday
> when there is an overload on the power grid.

Really? Our electrical rates are based on time of use. There are peak,
mid-peak and off-peak hours. Saturdays,Sundays and holidays are off
peak hours because of the low demand. We try to do our laundry on
weekends or else late in the evening or early in the morning. I don't
worry too much about the washing, but drying in off peak can save
significant money. I usually save even more by hanging the laundry on
the line.

[John Kuthe]

Oh NO WAY!!!! My International Students RENT is my Shared International Student Living House's MONEY SUPPLY! *I* bought the house cash in 2017 so now THIS the first Shared Living House in CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG's stable of existing structures to increase population DENSITY in desirable living areas! Like 5min walk to UMSL, 5min walk to the South UMSL Metrolink station and a 5min drive to/from STL International Airport!!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I haven't looked at the recommendations since Thomas Edison's funeral, but I
remember them asking if at all possible to do week-end laundry Friday night,
LATE. Or Saturday morning EARLY, really EARLY, as to give the power grid a
break. Lots of people do their laundry on their two days off and don't think
about picking a day/night in the middle of the week.

Warming up here and I can't wait to be able to hang sheets and bras and such
out on the line to dry. I've been toying with the idea of moving my clothes-
line further away from my carport. A bit too close to my way of thinking.

[Bruce]

I didn't say YOU will kick the boarders out. I said I would kick the
boarders out.

(How do you emphasize "I" by writing it in capitals?)

[Bruce]

Do you hang it during off peak hours?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 7:13:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> (How do you emphasize "I" by writing it in capitals?)
>

_I_ or *I* or "I"

[Bruce]

Ok, thanks :)

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-16 7:39 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 5:33:13 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:\

>> Really? Our electrical rates are based on time of use. There are peak,
>> mid-peak and off-peak hours. Saturdays,Sundays and holidays are off
>> peak hours because of the low demand. We try to do our laundry on
>> weekends or else late in the evening or early in the morning. I don't
>> worry too much about the washing, but drying in off peak can save
>> significant money. I usually save even more by hanging the laundry on
>> the line.
>>
> I haven't looked at the recommendations since Thomas Edison's funeral, but I
> remember them asking if at all possible to do week-end laundry Friday night,
> LATE. Or Saturday morning EARLY, really EARLY, as to give the power grid a
> break. Lots of people do their laundry on their two days off and don't think
> about picking a day/night in the middle of the week.

The reason they have that time off is that a lot of industry and
commerce is closed and most of the machines and lighting that they use
to do their business have been shut down. Their thinking is that people
should be encouraged to use power at home when there is a lower demand.
Heaven forbid the real reason is just to jack up the prices during peak
hours.

> Warming up here and I can't wait to be able to hang sheets and bras and such
> out on the line to dry. I've been toying with the idea of moving my clothes-
> line further away from my carport. A bit too close to my way of thinking.

It doesn't have to be really warm. A gentle breeze is all it really
needs. I have been known to hang laundry when it is near freezing. you
just have to try to get it our early in the morning because the sun sets
early and then the air gets too moist to dry. I have also hung laundry
late at night. it doesn't really dry much over night, it might even get
a little damper, but it gets an early start on drying in the morning.

>

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Anytime.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > Warming up here and I can't wait to be able to hang sheets and bras and such
> > out on the line to dry. I've been toying with the idea of moving my clothes-
> > line further away from my carport. A bit too close to my way of thinking.
>
> It doesn't have to be really warm. A gentle breeze is all it really
> needs. I have been known to hang laundry when it is near freezing. you
> just have to try to get it our early in the morning because the sun sets
> early and then the air gets too moist to dry. I have also hung laundry
> late at night. it doesn't really dry much over night, it might even get
> a little damper, but it gets an early start on drying in the morning.
>

I can remember my mother hanging out clothes on bitter, bitter cold days and
they would freeze dry. This was done even though we had an electric dryer.
I could see having to do this when a clothesline is all there was to dry
clothes. But one thing she *never* did and I don't do either is to hang
clothes out and leave them on the line overnight. As she would say, the
night air will make them dirty and I believe it. Anyway, if I can't get
them out during the daylight hours they will have to wait until another day.

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 8:52:32 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
...

> But one thing she *never* did and I don't do either is to hang
> clothes out and leave them on the line overnight. As she would say, the
> night air will make them dirty and I believe it. Anyway, if I can't get
> them out during the daylight hours they will have to wait until another day.

ROFL!! What about That Time It Rained For Two Million Years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LdMWlNYS4&t=354s

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:10:42 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 8:52:32 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> ...
> > But one thing she *never* did and I don't do either is to hang
> > clothes out and leave them on the line overnight.
>

> ROFL!! What about That Time It Rained For Two Million Years?
>

We had no clothes hanging on the line and don't care what happened when it
rained for Two Million Years.
>
> John Kuthe, Brain Dead and Proud of It!

[Jeßus]

Well, I'd open an umbrella factory.

[Dave Smith]

Did you live in an industrial area? There used to be a lot more air
pollution. The city closest to us had several steel plants and graphite
plant. They burned a lot of coal and put a lot of particulate matter
into the air. Houses used to me heated with coal. when I was a kid most
of the buildings in cities were grimy with soot from all the coal they
burned in their furnaces.

[Alex]

No one would take us your nursing offer? No surprise there...

[Alex]

That's odd. I would think that the weekends would be a peak period
since more people are home.

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 10:57:24 -0700 (PDT), itsjoan...@webtv.net
wrote:

> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 12:49:20 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> :-)
>>
> Day off what? Your rocker?

[and the crowd ROARS!]

I'd bet $10 this means he isn't staring at the phone all day,
willing it to ring, waiting it for his true love to call and ask for
a ride. Spring break, she's getting laid. Probably by some
squirelly, little, self-medicating psychotic 59 year-old White guy
that bought his house for cash and owns a Tesla.

Ouch!! What was that horrid sound?!?!? It sounded like all the
puppy dogs in the world just got run over by the same car. A Tesla.

ObFood: Papa Murphy's XLNY (Sausage and pepperoni on a thin crust)
for dinner. $8, ate $6 worth. But why are there 108 lumpy
chocolate-covered cherries floating down my creek on a kayak that
says "Kuthe" on it waving flags that say "Mexico Or Melt"? 23 days,
1225 miles by water, for about 2.2 miles an hour... I'll be damned!
they didn't thrown away, they escaped!

-sw

[Dave Smith]

This is the best graph I could find for daily and weekly demand. It
shows the demand going up and down as the week rolls along. It shows a
weekly low overnight on Saturday with about 70 gigawatts,rising to about
115 gw in the afternoon. Demand on Sunday is a little higher, peaking at
close to 130 gw. During the week minimum demand is is in the 85-90 range
and they peak in the range of 155-160.

The aim of time of use pricing is to encourage people to shift their use
to the off peak hours in order to keep consumption are a more constant
rate and reducing demand at the peak hours.

The monkey wrench in the works will be the increase in electric cars.
Another site I looked at showed the difference in consumption between
houses with and without electric cars. While most homes show a decrease
in consumption at night, it rises dramatically in homes with electric cars.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=12711

[Ed Pawlowski]

We don't get a break on rates for residential use. I never ran the
dryer on summer days though and the power company in CT would give me
money to install controls where they could shut off the AC if the load
went high. It would never be off more than 30 minutes in an hour so it
was very tolerable the few times they did it.

I just got something in the mail here too. Dryers, AC can be turned
off. You still get the savings if you sign up and they never cut power.

Most of my utilities are different here than my old house. Lighting is
still electric, but now heat (was oil) and AC is too with a heat pump.
Hot water is no longer oil but is now gas. Cooking went from propane to
gas. Water bill is lower, but sewer bill is much higher. Trash used to
be $1 a bag, now is $14/month for two pickups a week.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:31:35 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Did you live in an industrial area? There used to be a lot more air
> pollution. The city closest to us had several steel plants and graphite
> plant. They burned a lot of coal and put a lot of particulate matter
> into the air. Houses used to me heated with coal. when I was a kid most
> of the buildings in cities were grimy with soot from all the coal they
> burned in their furnaces.
>

No, thankfully the city has always been rather clean. Just that clothes were
never hung out to dry overnight.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Think about it. Where I worked we had 14 machines plus other equipment.
Those machines did not run on the weekend. We had a 150 HP air
compressor that started up at 7 AM for 16 hours. It did not run on the
weekend. Plus other equipment, pumps, blowers, etc.

Our electric bill averaged about $500 a day, 5 days a week. That amount
of generation power was freed up on weekends. We used $31/hour. How
long can your household run for $31?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:37:44 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >

> > Our electrical rates are based on time of use. There are peak,
> > mid-peak and off-peak hours. Saturdays,Sundays and holidays are off
> > peak hours because of the low demand. We try to do our laundry on
> > weekends or else late in the evening or early in the morning. I don't
> > worry too much about the washing, but drying in off peak can save
> > significant money. I usually save even more by hanging the laundry on
> > the line.
> >
> >
> That's odd. I would think that the weekends would be a peak period
> since more people are home.
>

Peak period here is the week-ends, too.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:48:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> We don't get a break on rates for residential use.
>

No break on rates here either but they would like people to not overload
the grid. Thus they encourage doing laundry and such during the week.

>
> I just got something in the mail here too. Dryers, AC can be turned
> off. You still get the savings if you sign up and they never cut power.
>

I've not seen that here. But sounds interesting.

>
> Most of my utilities are different here than my old house. Lighting is
> still electric, but now heat (was oil) and AC is too with a heat pump.
> Hot water is no longer oil but is now gas. Cooking went from propane to
> gas. Water bill is lower, but sewer bill is much higher. Trash used to
> be $1 a bag, now is $14/month for two pickups a week.
>

The heating/cooling for my sewing/craft room is by heat pump but the original
portion of the house is heated by gas as is the water heater. Also, I cook
with gas and yes, my sewer bill is more than the water bill. Trash pickup is
done by the city, once per week, and that's paid through my property taxes.

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 11:15:38 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> ...and yes, my sewer bill is more than the water bill.
...

Of COURSE!! Your SEWER not only gets most of your water but also your SHIT TOO!

You gotta PAY them to sewer YOUR SHIT AWAY! ;-)

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:20:22 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today!

Boiling out? That you have kitchenware that you need to autoclave,
is ...wow. I admit to putting hot water in my half sheet pans after
13-15 years and a sticking them in a 550F oven, but if "boiling out"
is "easy stuffs" for you I don't want to know what "hard stuffs" is.

> I have a load of laundry running in the washer too! Spring Cleaning! :-)

A load of laundry is "Spring Cleaning". So what is Fall Cleaning,
brushing your teeth?

> Part of my JOB as Home Owner of my Shared International Student Living house!

That makes your net rental income now the same as what you paid for
the room when that Cheap Chines Fuck owned it and you rented it from
him. So in effect, you bought a room (and a basemen) for $240,000
for which you pay full property tax each year. At the same price as
a Penthouse condo in St Louis for less property tax each year. With
no pool, no sauna, no jacuzzi, no gym, no maintenance people, no
elevator key card to impress all the loves-of-your-life on the
floors beneath you....

I could do this logical sarcasm all day and night long. I'm
thinking maybe I've honed it too well in 30 years of Usenet.

-sw

[John Kuthe]

On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 5:00:56 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:20:22 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
> > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today!
>
> Boiling out? That you have kitchenware that you need to autoclave,
> is ...wow. I admit to putting hot water in my half sheet pans after
> 13-15 years and a sticking them in a 550F oven, but if "boiling out"
> is "easy stuffs" for you I don't want to know what "hard stuffs" is.

...

The HARD STUFF involves OVEN CLEANER!! Boiler descaling, etc, You know, harsh chemicals: Sodium Hydroxide, Glyphosate, Quaternary Ammonia, Bleach etc. Or very aggressive mechanicals! Scraping, polishing, buffing, abrasive BLASTING, etc.

Ever built a tool? I have! :-)

John Kuthe...

[Cindy Hamilton]

For those of us who don't have a boiler, we generally find that regular
cleaning of our kitchenware suffices. No harsh chemicals required.
The strongest thing I use is Barkeeper's Friend. I find the oxalic
acid in it is hard on my hands nowadays, so I've started wearing vinyl
foodservice gloves on those rare occasions I use it.

Incidentally, glyphosate is an herbicide, not a cleaner.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

That does not sound right. Every other place in North
America the peak is when industry is using power and during the summer
when AC is working on top of that. Just look at the factories and
office buildings that are not occupied on the weekend.

This is typical:
Rates during weekends and off-peak hours are much lower, while rates
for electricity used during weekday peak hours (12 p.m. – 6 p.m.) are
higher. Most holidays are considered off-peak.

So it this:
This time can vary but typically during the summer, it is weekdays
between 7:00 am and 10:00 am and 8:00 pm and 11:00 pm.

[cshenk]

John Kuthe wrote:

> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:36:45 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net
> wrote:

> > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs

> > > > today! I have a load of laundry running in the washer too!
> > > > Spring Cleaning! :-)
> > >

> > You don't wash kitchen wares after they're used?
>
> Constantly!!
>
>
>
> > You only do laundry in the Spring? And you consider doing a load
> > of laundry as Spring cleaning??
>
> No! Just a routine load of laundry for me! On this BEAUTIFUL COOL
> SUNNY BREEZY SPRING DAY of several to come! :-) So NO RUSH!! ;-)
>
> I LOVE being Retired! Self-supporting, etc. And I don't even HAVE to
> WORK!! :-)
>
> To ME THIS IS MY DAY OFF!
>
> John Kuthe, Wealthier Than You Can Imagine! :-)

Anyone got a pair of tweezers so we can rip his ! key out?

[Nancy2]

Bruce, to emphasize "I," I used to put these < > around it. I don't know if people "got it"
or not....

N.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

GUFFAW! (Sorry, I had to add just o.n.e exclamation point.)

[Bruce]

Yes, that would work too. Thanks.

[Alex]

Good point!

[John Kuthe]

Glyphosate WAS ORIGINALLY developed as a BOILER DESCALING AGENT!! The glyphosate molecule has a strong affinity for metallic ions! After using it as a industrial descaling agent they noticed that when they threw the used descaling agents onto plant life it KILLS THEM very well! Then MonSATAN got a hold of it and called it Round Up!

And made a billion dollars off it before it was discovered to CAUSE CANCER! Assholes!!

When Cannabis KILLS cancers without harming healthy human cells!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <e208d361-544b-4599...@googlegroups.com>,

--> I <-- don't think that you used enough emphasis.

leo

[Bruce]

Good one. Me, myself and --> I <--!

[Sqwertz]

You use Monsanto weed killer to clean dishes?

And you cut out all the important stuff I wrote.

> Ever built a tool? I have! :-)

I just picked my teeth wth the corner of a tortilla chip bag and
opened a beer with a cigarette lighter. Two tools in the last 2
minutes alone.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:10:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:07:57 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:32:47 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 5:00:56 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:20:22 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Boiling out dirty "kitchen wares"! I only wanna do EASY stuffs today!
>>> >
>>> > Boiling out? That you have kitchenware that you need to autoclave,
>>> > is ...wow. I admit to putting hot water in my half sheet pans after
>>> > 13-15 years and a sticking them in a 550F oven, but if "boiling out"
>>> > is "easy stuffs" for you I don't want to know what "hard stuffs" is.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> The HARD STUFF involves OVEN CLEANER!! Boiler descaling, etc, You know, harsh chemicals: Sodium Hydroxide, Glyphosate, Quaternary Ammonia, Bleach etc. Or very aggressive mechanicals! Scraping, polishing, buffing, abrasive BLASTING, etc.
>>>
>>> Ever built a tool? I have! :-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> For those of us who don't have a boiler, we generally find that regular
>> cleaning of our kitchenware suffices. No harsh chemicals required.
>> The strongest thing I use is Barkeeper's Friend. I find the oxalic
>> acid in it is hard on my hands nowadays, so I've started wearing vinyl
>> foodservice gloves on those rare occasions I use it.
>>
>> Incidentally, glyphosate is an herbicide, not a cleaner.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Glyphosate WAS ORIGINALLY developed as a BOILER DESCALING AGENT!

Even if true, only a total fucking moron would use it to boil his
kitchenware.

-sw