The New Groups REALLY SUCK!

[John Kuthe]

Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:18:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
>
> John Kuthe...

I wonder, how many also could not post anything?

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

Did you have a technical problem posting or a psychological one?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

He doesn't know how to revert back to the old groups format.

[Alex]

Both.  Sad for a computer engineer.

[Hank Rogers]

Remember, not just any computer engineer, but a cannabis computer
engineer.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
news:1qsrif1at46g1pvhu...@4ax.com...

Hahaha. I don't even know what he's talking about.

[Julie Bove]

"Hank Rogers" <Nos...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:rgl4kk$1k3j$2...@gioia.aioe.org...

> Alex wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:18:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>> I wonder, how many also could not post anything?
>>> Did you have a technical problem posting or a psychological one?
>>

>> Both. Sad for a computer engineer.

>
> Remember, not just any computer engineer, but a cannabis computer
> engineer.

*snort*

[Thomas]

Nice

[Cindy Hamilton]

Intellectual.

Google groups is trying out a new appearance. He can't figure out
how to switch back to the old look.

I tried it and didn't like it, so I switched back. I suppose eventually
GG will make the new look mandatory so I'll just get used to it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Strange. Bryan says John's very intelligent and he knows him better
than any of us. Maybe it's the medication.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I think he is easily flustered, either because of the medication or
because of his bipolar disorder. Once flustered, he can't
see his way out of a difficulty.

Cindy Hamilton

[John Kuthe]

True, a technical problem. When Squertz from Google called me, he clarified that with me and once again in the OLD groups format I could post again.

Which I do now!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Squertz from Google called me and clarified switching back to the old Googlegroups format with me, in which I can post again.

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 03:57:50 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

Squertz from Google must be Sqwertz from RFC.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 03:48:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

It happens often. Must be strong medication.

[Snag]

You could get a real newsreader and use one of the free or low cost news
servers . e-s is free and blocknews is very very reasonably priced . I
use both ...
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum

[jmcquown]

But he's a computer engineer! ;) If Google Groups has him flustered I
guess it explains why he had such a difficult time with the charting
software at his job.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Psssst... Sqwertz isn't "from" Google, John. He doesn't even use Google
Groups to post.

Jill

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
> But he's a computer engineer! ;) If Google Groups has him flustered I
> guess it explains why he had such a difficult time with the charting
> software at his job.

A computer engineer degree from 1995 is totally worthless
unless he kept up with changing technology which he hasn't.

[dsi1]

He's obviously very intelligent - I mean, how many degrees do yoose guys have? OTOH, being perplexed by modern technology seems to be universal in old folks. Being perplexed by humans and relationships seems to be universal in brilliant people. I don't see any mystery at all.

My father-in-law was a computer wiz but he never got the hang of Windows OS and high level programming languages. He used to lick his plate of ice cream clean. That gave my wife PTSD. Is there anything more traumatizing to a daughter than daddy licking their plate? I think not.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm older than John and I figured out how to get the old GG appearance
back. Sure, I only have one degree, but I've actually been working
in that field for the last 20 years.

There's a difference between being intelligent and being smart.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

You're saying that some people are intelligent but not smart but you're smart - not intelligent? My guess is that intelligent people are not interested in talking about other people. Stupid people are.

[jmcquown]

On 8/8/2020 11:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> But he's a computer engineer! ;) If Google Groups has him flustered I
>> guess it explains why he had such a difficult time with the charting
>> software at his job.
>
> A computer engineer degree from 1995 is totally worthless

Yep, and he no longer points it out. <whew>

> unless he kept up with changing technology which he hasn't.
>

If Google wants to change the interface he'll just have to adapt. Thank
goodness "squertz from Google" saved the day so he can keep on posting.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 5:55:37 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 8:14:59 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> > > >> Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
>

> True, a technical problem. When Squertz from Google called me, he clarified that with me and once again in the OLD groups format I could post again.
>
> Which I do now!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

You could have asked here and gotten an answer. Oh, I forgot! You don't
know how to ask a question without ranting, raving, cussing, and flinging
yourself on the floor and kicking your feet.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:24:17 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 12:15:37 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > My father-in-law was a computer wiz but he never got the hang of Windows OS and high level programming languages.
>

> I'm older than John and I figured out how to get the old GG appearance
> back. Sure, I only have one degree, but I've actually been working
> in that field for the last 20 years.
>
> There's a difference between being intelligent and being smart.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I'm older than both of you and I have no degree and I figured out the first
2 minutes when they introduced the new groups how to get back to the old
format. All without cussing somebody out!

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 09:46:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

My guess is that the two things have nothing to do with each other.

[Bruce]

You post with Google Groups? But your (and Cindy's) posts look
civilised compared to the other Google Groupers.

[Hank Rogers]

He's just egging your protege on.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> You post with Google Groups?
>

I've never denied it.

>
> But your (and Cindy's) posts look
> civilised compared to the other Google Groupers.
>

We're both civilized and maybe we know how to post using their format.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Some people are both smart and intelligent.

You talk about people. What does that make you?

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Some of us are courteous enough to hit Enter every 80 characters
or so, since Google Groups doesn't do it for us.

OTOH, I'd hit Enter about that often anyway because I'm habituated
to it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

I knew you did that and it makes all the difference. But Greg Sorrow
is to stupid to do it and dsi1 likes to rebel.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 2:09:33 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 09:57:10 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm older than both of you and I have no degree and I figured out the first
>>>> 2 minutes when they introduced the new groups how to get back to the old
>>>> format. All without cussing somebody out!
>>>
>>> You post with Google Groups? But your (and Cindy's) posts look
>>> civilised compared to the other Google Groupers.
>>
>> Some of us are courteous enough to hit Enter every 80 characters
>> or so, since Google Groups doesn't do it for us.
>>
>> OTOH, I'd hit Enter about that often anyway because I'm habituated
>> to it.
>
> I knew you did that and it makes all the difference. But Greg Sorrow
> is to stupid to do it and dsi1 likes to rebel.
>

My guess is you're working up to a double sniff on those two.

[dsi1]

I learned how to type in the 60's so I know my way around a carriage return. In the 80's I learned that forcing a carriage return would only cause formatting problems with text. I won't be forcing carriage returns on general principle. It's the year 2020 and nobody should have to do that - at least, not with text. Of course, using the enter key is acceptable between paragraphs.

My suggestion is that people get a modern newsreader or use Google Groups. While they're at it, I suggest they dump Windows too.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:36:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I learned how to type in the 60's so I know my way around a carriage return. In the 80's I learned that forcing a carriage return would only cause formatting problems with text. I won't be forcing carriage returns on general principle. It's the year 2020 and nobody should have to do that - at least, not with text. Of course, using the enter key is acceptable between paragraphs.
>
> My suggestion is that people get a modern newsreader or use Google Groups. While they're at it, I suggest they dump Windows too.
>

https://i.postimg.cc/vZVRyBKx/Bravo.gif

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 16:36:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

You rebel, taking on the world like that! The new Che Guevara has
risen!

[dsi1]

Ditching Windows is the most rational thing to do. You use power hungry computers that are slow and buggy and uses a crap load of energy to keep going. My computer has a tiny ARM microprocessor that's going to run my computer faster and more secure than your old, archaic, piece of security-nightmare junk. My computer doesn't even have cooling vents.

I ain't no rebel, I'm just not stupid. You're the rebel, you whiny, old fart, herbivore. I'll start using carriage returns when you start eating pork chops.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:23:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

If I'd switch to your "computer", I'd be unemployed the same day. But
if you're proud of your tiny ARM, then I say 'Bully for you' and
'Enjoy', you Rebel Without a Cause!

[dsi1]

I can tell you're really proud of your big computer and big processor. Big deal, I've had big computers with 165W processors that needed really large cooling fans - feel free to live in the past and brag about it. I use a old, anarchic, computer at work but that's something I don't talk about.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:56:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

wrote:

>On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 2:36:00 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:23:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ditching Windows is the most rational thing to do. You use power hungry computers that are slow and buggy and uses a crap load of energy to keep going. My computer has a tiny ARM microprocessor that's going to run my computer faster and more secure than your old, archaic, piece of security-nightmare junk. My computer doesn't even have cooling vents.
>> >
>> >I ain't no rebel, I'm just not stupid. You're the rebel, you whiny, old fart, herbivore. I'll start using carriage returns when you start eating pork chops.
>>
>> If I'd switch to your "computer", I'd be unemployed the same day. But
>> if you're proud of your tiny ARM, then I say 'Bully for you' and
>> 'Enjoy', you Rebel Without a Cause!
>
>I can tell you're really proud of your big computer and big processor.

I'm not proud of that kind of stuff. I don't derive my self-worth from
the computer that I use. You do. Maybe that's a rock thing. All I can
say is: Enjoy!

>Big deal, I've had big computers with 165W processors that needed really large cooling fans - feel free to live in the past and brag about it.

You're the one doing the bragging.

> I use a old, anarchic, computer at work but that's something I don't talk about.

What does it matter? You use what you have to use, just like I do.

[Hank Rogers]

Aww, how sweet. Does the heart good to see you two sniffing each
other. Here's a bone ... *FETCH*.

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 03:57:50 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 5:48:17 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:34:28 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 03:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 8:35:45 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:18:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> >> >> Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> John Kuthe...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I wonder, how many also could not post anything?
>>> >>
>>> >> Did you have a technical problem posting or a psychological one?
>>> >
>>> >Intellectual.
>>> >
>>> >Google groups is trying out a new appearance. He can't figure out
>>> >how to switch back to the old look.
>>> >
>>> >I tried it and didn't like it, so I switched back. I suppose eventually
>>> >GG will make the new look mandatory so I'll just get used to it.
>>>
>>> Strange. Bryan says John's very intelligent and he knows him better
>>> than any of us. Maybe it's the medication.
>>

>> I think he is easily flustered, either because of the medication or
>> because of his bipolar disorder. Once flustered, he can't
>> see his way out of a difficulty.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Squertz from Google called me and clarified switching back to the old Googlegroups format with me, in which I can post again.

<boggle> That a month ago I called you and it had nothing to do with
the new/old Google groups. But perhaps the solution is the same as
it was last month:

Just Log In <doh!>

-sw

[dsi1]

Perhaps yoose whiny types should learn how to solve your own problems instead of expecting other people to do it for you. Yoose gets the last word.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:18:04 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

Which problems?

[Cindy Hamilton]

I've done both of your suggestions, except at work where my employer
dictates the OS that I use. I'm running Fedora 31 on my home PC.

And I still am courteous enough to hit Enter at the end of each line,
realizing that GG does not follow the norms for Usenet formatting.

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Thank you for that, Cindy! :)

Jill

[dsi1]

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:18:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> I wonder, how many also could not post anything?
>

> John Kuthe...

There's a new heading on the top of Google Groups:

"The new Google Groups has a fresh look and updated controls and will be replacing classic Groups soon"

Uh-oh.

[dsi1]

Sounds like you want to be given a medal for enabling people to cling to their archaic programs and OSes. That's called "virtue signaling" isn't it? Unfortunately, I have virtue. None at all.

[Bruce]

So first they made a totally non-compliant Usenet web interface and
now they've redesigned it, but I bet without making it more compliant
with the Usenet standards. They've polished a turd. A waste of energy.

[Bruce]

Usenet is old. If you make a Usenet interface, respect its old
standards. Or else don't bother. Make something new.

[dsi1]

That's like saying modern cars are non-compliant with dirt roads. I can read Usenet posts easier, faster, and in more places than you can. I can post easier and faster and in more places than you can. You're stuck to using your machines. That's so primitive. I can do searches in Usenet and the internet without leaving the interface or opening another program. I can do everything faster and better than you can. You OTOH, are just shit out of luck. So sorry, but it ain't my problem. Suck it up.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Pretty much. The new interface looks more like an app for a
mobile device.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

It's a strange waste of resources.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yeah. I'm not sure what Google gets out of it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Thomas Argo]

So how do I get back too?

[Thomas Argo]

I am lost

[jmcquown]

Lost? I leave it to you to figure out how to use the lame Google
interface to get back 'too' whatever.

Jill

[John Kuthe]

I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.

FUCK the fresh new GoogleGroups! Now Google wants to make them more Surveillance CAPITALISM friendly and thus more PROFITABLE for Google!

But Governments are becoming more strict and 'on the scent' of the Surveillance Capitalists!! I say break them all up, confiscate their BILLIONS/TRILLIONS of $$ and distribute it to all the Cell Phone users it all came from!

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

Well, use one of the free or dirt cheap real Usenet providers then.
Dump the surveillance capitalists. Become a genuine Usenetter!

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:06:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.

No. It's just redundant and archaic for the vast majority of people.

>FUCK the fresh new GoogleGroups! Now Google wants to make them more Surveillance CAPITALISM friendly and thus more PROFITABLE for Google!

And yet... you're still posting from Google Groups:


Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=35.129.6.185;
posting-account=ja_j6woAAABJv24pt7Dxx6icnyi92ahF
NNTP-Posting-Host: 35.129.6.185
References: <50c1a927-f18b-4c33...@googlegroups.com>
<a8f42108-e8e4-49fb...@googlegroups.com>
<3d32321b-d266-4365...@googlegroups.com>
<1129jfd46tfk7k6vq...@4ax.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <e0f790d8-6329-4c89...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: The New Groups REALLY SUCK!
From: John Kuthe <johnk...@gmail.com>

SO... one WONDERS why a legendary COMPUTER TECH, who was online PRE
INTERNET cannot figure out how to configure a simple NEWSREADER with a
real news server...

>But Governments are becoming more strict and 'on the scent' of the Surveillance Capitalists!! I say break them all up, confiscate their BILLIONS/TRILLIONS of $$ and distribute it to all the Cell Phone users it all came from!

You just haven't a clue, John.

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995!

"surfing the internet" is annoying to me.
I began surfing in the Atlantic Ocean in 1968.
Not many shark kids back then.

[John Kuthe]

Tr

[dsi1]

That's a pretty good point. I suppose surfers might not like the term. Hopefully, the term will just disappear in a few years. I suggest "slutting the internet."

[dsi1]

Uh oh. Looks like the New Google Groups has struck again.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:06:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 7:25:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:18:46 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> > Just sayin! Kept me from posting anything.
>> >> >
>> >> > John Kuthe...
>> >>
>> >> I wonder, how many also could not post anything?
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> >There's a new heading on the top of Google Groups:
>> >
>> >"The new Google Groups has a fresh look and updated controls and will be replacing classic Groups soon"
>> >
>> >Uh-oh.
>>
>> So first they made a totally non-compliant Usenet web interface and
>> now they've redesigned it, but I bet without making it more compliant
>> with the Usenet standards. They've polished a turd. A waste of energy.
>
>I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>
>FUCK the fresh new GoogleGroups! Now Google wants to make them more Surveillance CAPITALISM friendly and thus more PROFITABLE for Google!

You should unsubscribe... RFC was great until you arrived with your
filthy yap and off topic trash... and take that racist ukelele with
you.

[dsi1]

Uh oh. What happened now? Did you tractor get a flat tire?

[Hank Rogers]

Hahahahaha ... Popeye preaching about "filthy yap"!

[Hank Rogers]

No, probably just got a brand new case of crystal palace.

[jmcquown]

On 8/14/2020 11:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>

Being developed? In 1991? Better check your history. Or better yet,
check your alledged Computer Engineering Degree. Many of us have been
"surfing" the World Wide Web since the 1980's.

> FUCK the fresh new GoogleGroups! Now Google wants
>

(snipped rant)

>
> John Kuthe...
>
You're the one who chooses to use Google Groups. There are many other
options. Figure out how to use one of them and you'll have one less
thing to bitch about.

Jill

[Bruce]

There's 'browsing the Internet', but that makes it sound like a
cookbook.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:38:59 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:06:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 7:25:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>

>>> So first they made a totally non-compliant Usenet web interface and
>>> now they've redesigned it, but I bet without making it more compliant
>>> with the Usenet standards. They've polished a turd. A waste of energy.
>>
>>I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>>
>>FUCK the fresh new GoogleGroups! Now Google wants to make them more Surveillance CAPITALISM friendly and thus more PROFITABLE for Google!
>
>You should unsubscribe... RFC was great until you arrived with your
>filthy yap and off topic trash... and take that racist ukelele with
>you.

John's not the problem. It's the people who constantly take the bait,
egg him on and then complain about his many posts.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:14:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 8/14/2020 11:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>>
>
>Being developed? In 1991? Better check your history. Or better yet,
>check your alledged Computer Engineering Degree. Many of us have been
>"surfing" the World Wide Web since the 1980's.

I don't believe that.

[Cindy Hamilton]

There's more to the Internet than the World Wide Web, as Usenet newsgroups demonstrate.

Since you use a browser to access the WWW, browsing is as good as anything.

To return to the original topic, I've switched to the new Google Groups. I suppose I'll get used to it,
just as I get used to it when they rearrange the grocery store.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

The World Wide web was born in 1990, but it was a few more years before it really got big enough to be useful.

Cindy Hamilton

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:19:25 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995!
>
>"surfing the internet" is annoying to me.

So, it's not just people using smart phones... or going 'camping' with
anything more than a piece of flint and a loin cloth that bothers you?

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:14:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 8/14/2020 11:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>>
>
>Being developed? In 1991? Better check your history. Or better yet,
>check your alledged Computer Engineering Degree. Many of us have been
>"surfing" the World Wide Web since the 1980's.

You're thinking of BBS?

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:05:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:18:53 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995!
>> >>
>> >> "surfing the internet" is annoying to me.
>> >> I began surfing in the Atlantic Ocean in 1968.
>> >> Not many shark kids back then.
>> >
>> >That's a pretty good point. I suppose surfers might not like the term. Hopefully, the term will just disappear in a few years. I suggest "slutting the internet."
>> There's 'browsing the Internet', but that makes it sound like a
>> cookbook.
>
>There's more to the Internet than the World Wide Web, as Usenet newsgroups demonstrate.
>
>Since you use a browser to access the WWW, browsing is as good as anything.

There may be nothing better. Surfing sounds ridiculous.

[jmcquown]

Perhaps. Or more loosely, "online". It was well before 1991 when I
could communicate with people around the world via computer.

At any rate, I'm never sure what the hell he thinks he's bragging about.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe you could start a new group. kissingjohnkuths's ass.

Your ass sniffing days are numbered anyway.

[Ed Pawlowski]

There were some forums and bulletin boards and such early on. You could
log on with your 300 baud modem to connect to them. All text based.

Usenet was conceived in 1979 and publicly established in 1980, at the
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Duke University, over a
decade before the World Wide Web went online (and thus before the
general public received access to the Internet), making it one of the
oldest computer network communications ...

ARPANET adopted TCP/IP on January 1, 1983, and from there researchers
began to assemble the “network of networks” that became the modern
Internet. The online world then took on a more recognizable form in
1990, when computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web.

Tim Berners-Lee, a British scientist, invented the World Wide Web (WWW)
in 1989, while working at CERN. The web was originally conceived and
developed to meet the demand for automated information-sharing between
scientists in universities and institutes around the world.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 17:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 8/15/2020 3:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:14:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/14/2020 11:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Being developed? In 1991? Better check your history. Or better yet,
>>> check your alledged Computer Engineering Degree. Many of us have been
>>> "surfing" the World Wide Web since the 1980's.
>>
>> I don't believe that.
>>
>There were some forums and bulletin boards and such early on. You could
>log on with your 300 baud modem to connect to them. All text based.

Yes, I even worked as a programmer for one of those bulletin boards,
but that's not the World Wide Web.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:05:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:18:53 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995!
>>>>>
>>>>> "surfing the internet" is annoying to me.
>>>>> I began surfing in the Atlantic Ocean in 1968.
>>>>> Not many shark kids back then.
>>>>
>>>> That's a pretty good point. I suppose surfers might not like the term. Hopefully, the term will just disappear in a few years. I suggest "slutting the internet."
>>> There's 'browsing the Internet', but that makes it sound like a
>>> cookbook.
>>
>> There's more to the Internet than the World Wide Web, as Usenet newsgroups demonstrate.
>>
>> Since you use a browser to access the WWW, browsing is as good as anything.
>
> There may be nothing better. Surfing sounds ridiculous.
>

In your case Druce, it's not surfing ... It's sniffing.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 17:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2020 3:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:14:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/14/2020 11:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I began surfing the Internet in Usenet, while the WWW was being developed! 1991-1995! Usenet USED to be great, but now is mostly SPAMMED out of usefulness.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Being developed? In 1991? Better check your history. Or better yet,
>>>> check your alledged Computer Engineering Degree. Many of us have been
>>>> "surfing" the World Wide Web since the 1980's.
>>>
>>> I don't believe that.
>>>
>> There were some forums and bulletin boards and such early on. You could
>> log on with your 300 baud modem to connect to them. All text based.
>
> Yes, I even worked as a programmer for one of those bulletin boards,
> but that's not the World Wide Web.
>

Things are different in da Loo.

[Alex]

Maybe he just fell asleep after typing that?

[dsi1]

Hopefully, he'll regain consciousnesses one of these days and explain what "Tr" means.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:g3cgjfhf6rmgf2u2j...@4ax.com...

=====

Yep!!!

[Leo]

On 2020 Aug 15, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<7a45258e-8d46-4a0f...@googlegroups.com>):

> That's a pretty good point. I suppose surfers might not like the term.
> Hopefully, the term will just disappear in a few years. I suggest "slutting
> the internet."

I don’t like “blog” either. It sounds like something that one would do
in the bathroom after eating bad clams.
On the other hand, blogs are vomitus of the mind so...

leo

[Bruce]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:09:25 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

How about 'vlog'? Do you follow any woke millennial vloggers?

[Leo]

On 2020 Aug 17, , Bruce wrote
(in article<r57mjftc64o9gh3ot...@4ax.com>

> How about 'vlog'? Do you follow any woke millennial vloggers?

I’m guessing that that’s a video log. Is a YouTube video a vlog? If I had
twenty seconds, I could look it up.
I do view an occasional YouTube video. Am I vlogging? That sounds off too. It
ain’t English. Sounds more Dutch.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:45:41 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On 2020 Aug 17, , Bruce wrote
>(in article<r57mjftc64o9gh3ot...@4ax.com>
>
>> How about 'vlog'? Do you follow any woke millennial vloggers?
>
>I’m guessing that that’s a video log. Is a YouTube video a vlog?

No.

>If I had twenty seconds, I could look it up.
>I do view an occasional YouTube video. Am I vlogging?

No.

>That sounds off too. It ain’t English. Sounds more Dutch.

A vlog is a blog using video as the medium.

[Leo]

On 2020 Aug 17, , Bruce wrote

(in article<ecbmjf5mhn5crvlgk...@4ax.com>):

> A vlog is a blog using video as the medium.

Thanks Bruce! You saved me twenty seconds. I owe you.

[dsi1]

Those kids are doing all kinds of weird shit. Who would have guessed that unboxing stuff and whispering videos would be a thing? OTOH, it wasn't that long ago that we were doing all kinds of weird shit. No matter, it's all out our hands now and we can't do nothing about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sluyEEuRgs

[Gary]

lol good memory

[Gary]

Or maybe Compuserve back in the 80s. They offered "pages" that
you view. Some for free and many for extra charge on your next
monthly bill. I used it for one year then quit.

[Ophelia]

"Leo" wrote in message
news:0001HW.24EB68F700...@News.Individual.Net...

===

Me too!

[Jeßus]

Could be. AFAIK Australia only had BBS and then Internet.

I had a housemates and some friends with computers, using BBSs. I
couldn't see much benefit from it back then - seemed to be more an
exercise in frustration (and huge phone bills) than anything else. I'd
just use their computers and that was enough for me.

The Internet was another matter entirely.