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Julie Bove

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Nov 3, 2012, 1:51:41 AM11/3/12
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Tonight I bought some cilantro. I think I may have left that off of my list
of things I bought from my other post. Oops! Anyway... As I was putting
things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor. I picked it up. And
then I noticed that I couldn't smell it. I put it close to my nose and
sniffed. No. Nothing. That is the way I always try to differentiate
between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so similar. But at
this store it was clearly away from the flat leaved parsley. I checked the
little thing twisted around it but it gave no clue as to the contents. I
broke off a piece, washed it and tasted it. Yep! It was in fact cilantro.
But no odor. First time I have ever seen that!


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Richard K.

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Nov 3, 2012, 2:06:55 AM11/3/12
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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I cannot smell cilantro, but I can definitely taste it. Something happened
in the last few years, and I can't eat it anymore. After a few chews it
leaves a bad taste in my mouth... not aware of any other spice or food
doing this. Kind of annoying because some places like Qdoba have cilantro
right in the food.


Julie Bove

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Nov 3, 2012, 2:38:13 AM11/3/12
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> Really fresh cilantro doesn't smell until it starts to degrade. Or
> until it has been mishandled and gets bruised.
>
> I'm sure your cilantro, though, is a freak of nature.

Really? I didn't know that. Hmmm... Could explain why the last cilantro I
bought went bad so quickly. And then it did have an odor. Just not of
cilantro.


Julie Bove

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Nov 3, 2012, 2:39:19 AM11/3/12
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"Richard K." <Rich...@netzero.com> wrote in message
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I love the stuff! I know some people say it tastes of soap. I only ever
noticed this once. I was growing it and it had gone to seed. I still
picked it. But it tasted of soap. So maybe it just does when it has gone
to seed?


Farm1

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Nov 3, 2012, 2:41:29 AM11/3/12
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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> Tonight I bought some cilantro. I think I may have left that off of my
> list of things I bought from my other post. Oops! Anyway... As I was
> putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor. I picked it
> up. And then I noticed that I couldn't smell it. I put it close to my
> nose and sniffed. No. Nothing. That is the way I always try to
> differentiate between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so
> similar.

Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way they are
alike. Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an inexperienced cook to
mix them up based on appearance.


Julie Bove

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Nov 3, 2012, 4:50:40 AM11/3/12
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"Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes> wrote in message
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But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very similar.


ViLco

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:00:45 AM11/3/12
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getting burned with cilantro must suck

Ophelia

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"ViLco" <vill...@tin.it> wrote in message
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lol it would suck if I accidentally bought cilantro ...

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Nov 3, 2012, 10:23:52 AM11/3/12
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in
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Our coriander (cilantro to you foreigner) always has the 'hairy' roots left
attached, where as the parsley is just green stalks.


Peter
Brisbane
Australia

James Silverton

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Nov 3, 2012, 10:57:10 AM11/3/12
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I wish that were the case here! Cilantro roots, which are a component of
one good Thai chicken marinade are only occasional available even in
ethnic stores.


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sf

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Nov 3, 2012, 11:57:33 AM11/3/12
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:41:29 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
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They look too similar when cut and in the grocery store, AFAIC. I'm
not fond of Italian parsley, so I wouldn't be happy if I accidentally
came home with that instead of cilantro.

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sf

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Nov 3, 2012, 12:05:29 PM11/3/12
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Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
AFAIC. I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
growing in my yard, because there are a couple of things where I use a
tiny bit of chopped parsley for color and it's not worth it to me to
buy an entire bunch of parsley (most of which will rot before I use it
again).

Julie Bove

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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I love parsley and I put it in lots of things. But I used dried. I only
use fresh when I make a pasta salad or perhaps some other cold salad that
calls for it. But I think the curly has more flavor. Yes, I have tried
both. I did try to grow it. The stuff took over and I had far more than I
could ever use.


Julie Bove

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Nov 3, 2012, 2:44:25 PM11/3/12
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"Ophelia" <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
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I accidentally put the dried stuff in something I was cooking. I grabbed
the wrong bottle and immediately noticed my mistake when I smelled it. I
can't remember now what I was cooking, but cilantro wasn't good in it!


sf

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Nov 3, 2012, 3:11:43 PM11/3/12
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Lucky you! I have planted another after the first has gone to see in
the hopes of having a parsley "spot" in perpetuity but hasn't
happened. When one finally dies, I have to plant another.

Ophelia

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I don't like it at all:))

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merryb

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Nov 3, 2012, 7:06:19 PM11/3/12
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On Nov 3, 9:05 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:50:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > "Farm1" <H...@there.sometimes> wrote in message
> >news:k72eb0$nmm$2...@dont-email.me...
> > > "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote in message
> > >news:k72bdd$cnt$1...@dont-email.me...
> > >> Tonight I bought some cilantro.  I think I may have left that off of my
> > >> list of things I bought from my other post.  Oops!  Anyway...  As I was
> > >> putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor.  I picked it
> > >> up.  And then I noticed that I couldn't smell it.  I put it close to my
> > >> nose and sniffed.  No.  Nothing.  That is the way I always try to
> > >> differentiate between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so
> > >> similar.
>
> > > Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way they
> > > are alike.  Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an inexperienced
> > > cook to mix them up based on appearance.
>
> > But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very similar.
>
> Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all.  It's a useless herb
> AFAIC.  I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
> growing in my yard, because there are a couple of things where I use a
> tiny bit of chopped parsley for color and it's not worth it to me to
> buy an entire bunch of parsley (most of which will rot before I use it
> again).
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

When I make a batch of spaghetti sauce, I toss in a whole bunch of
Italian parsley- stems and all. I fish it out when the sauce is done.
You would be surprised at the difference it makes. To me, it is one of
the most useful herbs.

sf

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On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:06:19 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
wrote:

> On Nov 3, 9:05 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:50:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >
> >
> > <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Farm1" <H...@there.sometimes> wrote in message
> > >news:k72eb0$nmm$2...@dont-email.me...
> > > > "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:k72bdd$cnt$1...@dont-email.me...
> > > >> Tonight I bought some cilantro.  I think I may have left that off of my
> > > >> list of things I bought from my other post.  Oops!  Anyway...  As I was
> > > >> putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor.  I picked it
> > > >> up.  And then I noticed that I couldn't smell it.  I put it close to my
> > > >> nose and sniffed.  No.  Nothing.  That is the way I always try to
> > > >> differentiate between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so
> > > >> similar.
> >
> > > > Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way they
> > > > are alike.  Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an inexperienced
> > > > cook to mix them up based on appearance.
> >
> > > But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very similar.
> >
> > Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all.  It's a useless herb
> > AFAIC.  I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
> > growing in my yard, because there are a couple of things where I use a
> > tiny bit of chopped parsley for color and it's not worth it to me to
> > buy an entire bunch of parsley (most of which will rot before I use it
> > again).
> >
>
> When I make a batch of spaghetti sauce, I toss in a whole bunch of
> Italian parsley- stems and all. I fish it out when the sauce is done.
> You would be surprised at the difference it makes. To me, it is one of
> the most useful herbs.

I guess parsley is one of those herbs that either people love and use
all the time or they are indifferent to it.

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James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote in
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Bummer!!

You can't buy coriander here without them.... and most people throw the
damn damn roots out!! I always cut them off, give then a good wash, and
freeze them for later.



Peter
Brisbane
Australia

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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Sacrilege!! :-)

They do look similar.... they are both green.

However, flat leaf parsley has rounded leaves, whereas coriander has more
pointed leaves.

I use both on a regular basis, so it's quite easy (for me) to see just the
tops and know which is which.

FLP is great mixed in to a crispy salad. Samesame for a bit of coriander.


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sf

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<Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:

> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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>
> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:41:29 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k72bdd$cnt$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> > Tonight I bought some cilantro. I think I may have left that off
> >> > of my list of things I bought from my other post. Oops! Anyway...
> >> > As I was putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the
> >> > floor. I picked it up. And then I noticed that I couldn't smell
> >> > it. I put it close to my nose and sniffed. No. Nothing. That is
> >> > the way I always try to differentiate between it and flat leaved
> >> > parsley because they look so similar.
> >>
> >> Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way
> >> they are alike. Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an
> >> inexperienced cook to mix them up based on appearance.
> >>
> > They look too similar when cut and in the grocery store, AFAIC. I'm
> > not fond of Italian parsley, so I wouldn't be happy if I accidentally
> > came home with that instead of cilantro.
> >
>
>
>
> Sacrilege!! :-)
>
> They do look similar.... they are both green.

Your grocery stores cheat and leave the roots on cilantro. You'd have
to be blind not to notice the difference. We have only the
leaves/stems to look at and it's easy for people who doesn't use them
much to mix them up if they don't smell them first.
>
> However, flat leaf parsley has rounded leaves, whereas coriander has more
> pointed leaves.

Telling the difference between them is like telling twins apart. At
first they look alike, but after you get to know them they are very
distinct. Flat leaf parsley and cilantro are like that.
>
> I use both on a regular basis, so it's quite easy (for me) to see just the
> tops and know which is which.

There you go. I don't use either very much and they look alike to me
so I have to double check.
>
> FLP is great mixed in to a crispy salad. Samesame for a bit of coriander.


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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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It's not "cheating". It's value for money.
Just about everyone I know who buys coriander, uses the roots for one
thing or another.

They are an intergral part of Thai/Asian cooking, and if I was to go and
buy some coriander that didn't have the roots on, I'd feel ripped off.
The only place I've seen it happen was an Asian store, and they were
culling the roots from all the bunches, cleaning them up, and selling
them for a premium price by themselves!!

Farm1

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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote in message
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I suppose you'd have less success growing it in Brisbane's heat, but even
without the roots, would you mistake it for Italian parsley?


Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:41:29 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
> wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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>> > Tonight I bought some cilantro. I think I may have left that off of my
>> > list of things I bought from my other post. Oops! Anyway... As I was
>> > putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor. I picked
>> > it
>> > up. And then I noticed that I couldn't smell it. I put it close to my
>> > nose and sniffed. No. Nothing. That is the way I always try to
>> > differentiate between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so
>> > similar.
>>
>> Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way they
>> are
>> alike. Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an inexperienced cook
>> to
>> mix them up based on appearance.
>>
> They look too similar when cut and in the grocery store, AFAIC.

I can't see that myself.

I'm
> not fond of Italian parsley, so I wouldn't be happy if I accidentally
> came home with that instead of cilantro.

I can understand that but I still think an experienced cook can tell the
difference between the 2 if they bother to look.


Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:50:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes> wrote in message
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>> > "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>> > news:k72bdd$cnt$1...@dont-email.me...
>> >> Tonight I bought some cilantro. I think I may have left that off of
>> >> my
>> >> list of things I bought from my other post. Oops! Anyway... As I
>> >> was
>> >> putting things away, it fell out of the bag onto the floor. I picked
>> >> it
>> >> up. And then I noticed that I couldn't smell it. I put it close to
>> >> my
>> >> nose and sniffed. No. Nothing. That is the way I always try to
>> >> differentiate between it and flat leaved parsley because they look so
>> >> similar.
>> >
>> > Well they are both green and relatively low growing so in that way they
>> > are alike. Other than that, I'm sure you'd have to be an inexperienced
>> > cook to mix them up based on appearance.
>>
>> But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very
>> similar.
>>
> Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
> AFAIC.

How do you live without Tabouleh?

> I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)

I find curly catches in the throat whereas Italian doesn't. I no longer
grow curly.

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"Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes> wrote in news:k7521b$e3i$2...@dont-email.me:
No.


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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote in message
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I wonder if you and I have no trouble because we both use it regularly? I
can't for the life of me see why it's considered to be such a problem
because to me they are not alike other than, as you say, they're green (and
I'd add that they are low growing)


Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

> Telling the difference between them is like telling twins apart. At
> first they look alike, but after you get to know them they are very
> distinct. Flat leaf parsley and cilantro are like that.

As I already mentioned, an experienced cook wouldn't confuse the two.

>> I use both on a regular basis, so it's quite easy (for me) to see just
>> the
>> tops and know which is which.
>
> There you go. I don't use either very much and they look alike to me
> so I have to double check.

Minor concession: an experienced cook who uses either of them wouldn't
confuse the two.


Julie Bove

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"Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes> wrote in message
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I just remember reading about them or maybe I saw this on a cooking show.
Said that they look similar and the only way to tell them apart in the store
is to sniff them.


Gary

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Nov 4, 2012, 4:31:55 AM11/4/12
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Farm1 wrote:
>
> "sf" wrote:
> > I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
> > AFAIC.

I tend to agree. Not much taste to me. Not enough to make a difference but
it's good for color. I always keep some on hand though (usually dried) and
add it if a recipe calls for it.


> > I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
>
> I find curly catches in the throat whereas Italian doesn't. I no longer
> grow curly.

Should be fine if you mince it. (?)
The only herb I grow now is basil. Never too much of that - I use it very
often. It's also one of the few food items that survive on my balcony which
gets extremely hot on summer afternoons.

Gary

Gary

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I just remember reading about them or maybe I saw this on a cooking show.
> Said that they look similar and the only way to tell them apart in the store
> is to sniff them.

Or, in my case, trust the store to label them correctly. I've never bought
cilantro but I do use parsley often - either fresh or dried.

Gary

sf

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On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:28 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
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Well, I am an experienced cook and I still feel the need to double
check... but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached
either.

sf

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It was a JOKE, son.

> Just about everyone I know who buys coriander, uses the roots for one
> thing or another.

Viva la difference.
>
> They are an intergral part of Thai/Asian cooking, and if I was to go and
> buy some coriander that didn't have the roots on, I'd feel ripped off.
> The only place I've seen it happen was an Asian store, and they were
> culling the roots from all the bunches, cleaning them up, and selling
> them for a premium price by themselves!!


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On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:34:37 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
wrote:

> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:50:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very
> >> similar.
> >>
> > Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
> > AFAIC.
>
> How do you live without Tabouleh?

Very easily. I rarely eat it and there are many years in between.
>
> > I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
>
> I find curly catches in the throat whereas Italian doesn't. I no longer
> grow curly.

To each his own. I think curly has more flavor, what little there is;
and the texture never bothers me because it's chopped so finely when I
do use it.

Gary

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sf wrote:
>
> but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.

Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.

Gary

sf

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I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
those greens better than the beets they're attached to.

Gary

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sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
> >
> > Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
> >
>
> I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> those greens better than the beets they're attached to.

I grow radishes in the spring. Don't care much for the grown bulbs but I do
like the greens in spring salads.

Gary

sf

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That's interesting. Never heard that one before, but it's probably
very tasty in a multi-green mix. I wonder why they don't do it
commercially?

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 06:11:52 +0000 (UTC), "I'm back on the laptop"
> <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:

>> >> >>
>> >> > They look too similar when cut and in the grocery store, AFAIC.
>> >> > I'm not fond of Italian parsley, so I wouldn't be happy if I
>> >> > accidentally came home with that instead of cilantro.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sacrilege!! :-)
>> >>
>> >> They do look similar.... they are both green.
>> >
>> > Your grocery stores cheat and leave the roots on cilantro.
>>
>>
>> It's not "cheating". It's value for money.
>
> It was a JOKE, son.



Apologies Mum, I didn't see the smilie.


:-P



--
Peter Lucas KÆmp for alt
Brisbane Hvad du har kÆrt,
Australia Dø om saa det gÆlder !
Da er livet ej saa svÆrt
Døden ikke heller

Gary

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sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:43:03 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > sf wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
> > > >
> > > > Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> > > those greens better than the beets they're attached to.
> >
> > I grow radishes in the spring. Don't care much for the grown bulbs but I do
> > like the greens in spring salads.
> >
> That's interesting. Never heard that one before, but it's probably
> very tasty in a multi-green mix. I wonder why they don't do it
> commercially?

I don't why either. The radish greens are good in a mixed salad. I do eat
the radish roots/bulbs too but I'm not a big fan of them. I mostly plant
them in the spring for ground cover on other plants...they provide shade and
keeps the other plant soils from drying out so soon.

I can also grow carrots in the early spring but, in pots, they only grow
into baby carrots. I like them too.

Gary

Jim Elbrecht

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Nov 4, 2012, 10:59:46 AM11/4/12
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IMO, because there is little demand, *and* they are only good for
about 20 minutes after picking. [I feel the same way about
watercress.]

Grow your own-

Jim

Janet Bostwick

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On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:24:51 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
>>
>> Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
>>
>
>I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
>those greens better than the beets they're attached to.

This made me smile. Apparently it is all about where you live and who
(within that particular store) does the ordering. I can get beets
with tops at any store here. But when I hear you talk about the
various meat and stuff that you can get there, I am envious. I
haven't seen most of your stuff for years and years. Aside from what
sells at a store, I wonder if it has to do with the background of the
store buyer as to what is available. And maybe the changes in what a
store carries has to do with the ebb and flow of who is moving to the
state or city. I can get lamb legs and chops at Costco any time. But
I never see the other bits and pieces anymore. Fred Meyer has chops
pre-packaged. I asked about other cuts and the butcher told me it was
too expensive to bring in lamb and butcher it into other pieces. I
wonder why? We are a Basque community. Do they grow and butcher
their own lamb? I never see rabbit anymore -- or veal.
Janet US

sf

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Nov 4, 2012, 1:50:13 PM11/4/12
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:32:45 -0700, Janet Bostwick
<nos...@cableone.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:24:51 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >> >
> >> > but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
> >>
> >> Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
> >>
> >
> >I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> >those greens better than the beets they're attached to.
>
> This made me smile. Apparently it is all about where you live and who
> (within that particular store) does the ordering. I can get beets
> with tops at any store here.

Lucky you!

> But when I hear you talk about the
> various meat and stuff that you can get there, I am envious. I
> haven't seen most of your stuff for years and years. Aside from what
> sells at a store, I wonder if it has to do with the background of the
> store buyer as to what is available. And maybe the changes in what a
> store carries has to do with the ebb and flow of who is moving to the
> state or city. I can get lamb legs and chops at Costco any time. But
> I never see the other bits and pieces anymore. Fred Meyer has chops
> pre-packaged. I asked about other cuts and the butcher told me it was
> too expensive to bring in lamb and butcher it into other pieces. I
> wonder why? We are a Basque community. Do they grow and butcher
> their own lamb? I never see rabbit anymore -- or veal.

Rabbit and veal are pretty scarce here to, but you can find veal if
you scan the meat case carefully. The last time I saw rabbit, it was
frozen - might still be there, but I don't cook rabbit so I don't look
for it. Duck breast is another one of those things that you have to
really look around for and is not cheap when you find it (in a high
end market). One thing I've taken note of recently is that Safeway
and Lucky carry a lot of different items. I shop mainly at Safeway
because we have more of them (12 comfortably within a 4 mile radius of
my house) and it's easier to park at most of them than it is to park
at Lucky's (only two within 4 miles). There are a lot of items I see
mentioned here that I don't see at Safeway - but there they are at
Lucky. Many of their meat items are different too. For instance, if
I want to buy a hangar steak that isn't in a cryopak and don't want to
pay butcher store prices, I'll go to Lucky. If I want ground pork or
turkey that doesn't enter the store in a one pound brand name package
(like Jenny-O), I go to Lucky.

George M. Middius

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Nov 4, 2012, 2:09:55 PM11/4/12
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sf wrote:

> I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> those greens better than the beets they're attached to.

Around here, beets with greens are all the chains carry.
Unfortunately, the prices are stratospheric.

Farm1

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Nov 4, 2012, 2:30:12 PM11/4/12
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"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:5096360B...@att.net...
> Farm1 wrote:
>>
>> "sf" wrote:
>> > I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
>> > AFAIC.
>
> I tend to agree. Not much taste to me. Not enough to make a difference but
> it's good for color. I always keep some on hand though (usually dried) and
> add it if a recipe calls for it.

Gary I'm stunned! I love the flavour of parsley and find it quite
distinctive. That makes it difficult for me to understand why you don't
think it lacks taste.

I would never use dried parsley though - not in a month of Sundays (or even
a year of Sundays!)
>
>
>> > I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
>>
>> I find curly catches in the throat whereas Italian doesn't. I no longer
>> grow curly.
>
> Should be fine if you mince it. (?)
> The only herb I grow now is basil. Never too much of that - I use it very
> often.

Ditto. But I grow and use lots of other herbs too.

It's also one of the few food items that survive on my balcony which
> gets extremely hot on summer afternoons.

Hmmm. Sounds like a good place to grow some of the other heat loving
plants.


Janet Bostwick

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Nov 4, 2012, 3:17:23 PM11/4/12
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Well, that is true. You have to forget the price of a package of
seeds when you buy a bundle of 3 beets. :o(
Janet US

Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:28 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
> wrote:
>
>> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > Telling the difference between them is like telling twins apart. At
>> > first they look alike, but after you get to know them they are very
>> > distinct. Flat leaf parsley and cilantro are like that.
>>
>> As I already mentioned, an experienced cook wouldn't confuse the two.
>>
>> >> I use both on a regular basis, so it's quite easy (for me) to see just
>> >> the
>> >> tops and know which is which.
>> >
>> > There you go. I don't use either very much and they look alike to me
>> > so I have to double check.
>>
>> Minor concession: an experienced cook who uses either of them wouldn't
>> confuse the two.
>>
>
> Well, I am an experienced cook and I still feel the need to double
> check... but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached
> either.

But you're an experienced cook who fits into my minor concession!

I don't buy my cilantro (coriander) or my parsley so I don't know about
roots on plants in shops. Peter lives in Bribane where it would not grow as
well as my cooer climate so I grow it whereas he'd have a greater need to
buy it. I've never mixed up the two even though I have the sort of wild and
feral garden where things self seed and grow where they will. I don't fit
into my minor concession and from what Peter says, he doesn't either. I'm
an experienced cook who used both frequently.


Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:34:37 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
> wrote:
>
>> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:lnfa98p692r8g4rrv...@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:50:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> But I rarely ever buy flat leaved parsley so to me they look very
>> >> similar.
>> >>
>> > Agreed... I very rarely buy any parsley at all. It's a useless herb
>> > AFAIC.
>>
>> How do you live without Tabouleh?
>
> Very easily. I rarely eat it and there are many years in between.

It's a staple round here come summer. Not yet hot enough to make it but soon
I hope.

>> > I keep a curly leafed parsley plant (which I prefer over flat)
>>
>> I find curly catches in the throat whereas Italian doesn't. I no longer
>> grow curly.
>
> To each his own. I think curly has more flavor, what little there is;
> and the texture never bothers me because it's chopped so finely when I
> do use it.

Hmmm. Other than tabbouleh, I can't think of many things for which I'd
really chop parsely finely. I tend to leave it quite identifiable. I'll
have to note what I do with it from now on and why I do it. I use if as a
green leafy additint o salads and for that it doesn't get chopped at all.


Farm1

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"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:509661A5...@att.net...
> sf wrote:
>>
>> but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
>
> Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.

And especially if the roots are popped into a container of water in the
fridge.


Farm1

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Nov 4, 2012, 3:37:28 PM11/4/12
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"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:50968FC0...@att.net...
And they also act to break up any caking of the soil surface for slower
growing seeds.


Farm1

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Nov 4, 2012, 3:50:01 PM11/4/12
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"Janet Bostwick" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
LOL. Never was a truer word spoken!


Patty520

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Gary;1783692 Wrote:
> sf wrote:-
>
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary g.ma...@att.net wrote:
> -
> sf wrote:-
>
> but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.-
>
> Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
> -
>
> I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> those greens better than the beets they're attached to.-
>
> I grow radishes in the spring. Don't care much for the grown bulbs but
> I do
> like the greens in spring salads.
>
> Gary

i'm guessing there is no odor because it was picked before it was ready.
i'm sure if you went to your local farmers market you would find
amazing cilantro that smells and tastes surpass store bought.




--
Patty520

Julie Bove

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37:57 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > but stores don't commonly sell cilantro with roots attached either.
>>
>> Roots attached would probably extend their "fresh life," I suspect.
>>
>
> I wish stores still sold beets with their greens attached. I like
> those greens better than the beets they're attached to.

They do here.


Julie Bove

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"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:50967EF7...@att.net...
Ever done radish sprouts? Oh yum!


sf

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:34:33 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
wrote:

> Hmmm. Other than tabbouleh, I can't think of many things for which I'd
> really chop parsely finely. I tend to leave it quite identifiable. I'll
> have to note what I do with it from now on and why I do it. I use if as a
> green leafy additint o salads and for that it doesn't get chopped at all.
>
I'd be interested to hear how you use it. Googling the ingredients
for a bagged salad mix I like - I see parsley, but you can't prove it
by me because I don't taste it. Dill is the real standout for me.

I use it mainly for color, not flavor, in things like chicken piccata
and carbonara. Other than Tabbouleh - I can't think of how else I'd
use it. Mainly I use it for color in recipes like chicken piccata or
carbonara. Otherwise, I substitute what I think is a more appropriate
green herb with more flavor.

Farm1

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:34:33 +1100, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. Other than tabbouleh, I can't think of many things for which I'd
>> really chop parsely finely. I tend to leave it quite identifiable. I'll
>> have to note what I do with it from now on and why I do it. I use if as
>> a
>> green leafy additint o salads and for that it doesn't get chopped at all.
>>
> I'd be interested to hear how you use it. Googling the ingredients
> for a bagged salad mix I like - I see parsley, but you can't prove it
> by me because I don't taste it. Dill is the real standout for me.

I love dill. I can well understand why it's a standout for you. It has a
strong and distinctive flavour and potato salad and some other things just
aren't right without it.

But to my home based green salad, it's just a matter of what is in my garden
at the time. I always have Italian Parsley growing and Silver Beet (Swiss
Chard in USian) and I use the very young leaves for that and loose leaf
lettuce that gives cut and come again leaves in all but the middle of
winter. I have a large almost feral veg garden that and it's not a tidy
patch at all. I can always find potatoes that shoudl have been harvested
and weren't, and can usually find rocket and Mizuna, mibuna and Mustard
greens. I chuck in whatever and serve ti with dressing - usually just
caramelised balsemic and olive oil.

> I use it mainly for color, not flavor, in things like chicken piccata
> and carbonara. Other than Tabbouleh - I can't think of how else I'd
> use it. Mainly I use it for color in recipes like chicken piccata or
> carbonara. Otherwise, I substitute what I think is a more appropriate
> green herb with more flavor.

I'll pay more attention from now on but I know that I know in the past week
I used it in chicken stock that I made from a supremely tough dressed old
rooster I was given. I put it in garden soup (mix of stuff from the
garden). I put it in an invented creamy pasta dish we had for one dinner.
I also put a lot of it in a large pot full of spag bol sauce I was making to
put in the freezer. Can't think of anything else though in the past week
except for salads and I know Himself brought a pile in when I sent him out
to forage for salad greens.


James Silverton

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Dried parsley works pretty well but dried cilantro is rather pointless,

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

Farm1

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I think both of them are as pointless as boobs on a buderigar.


Gary

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Farm1 wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> (Basil) is one of the few food items that survive on my balcony which
> > gets extremely hot on summer afternoons.
>
> Hmmm. Sounds like a good place to grow some of the other heat loving
> plants.

One thing that thrives in the heat is jalapeno peppers.
Seems that hot peppers like heat too.

G.

sf

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On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:23:13 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

> One thing that thrives in the heat is jalapeno peppers.
> Seems that hot peppers like heat too.

They love the heat. Corn does too, but they both need enough water to
survive.
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