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Sheldon Martin
May 31, 2020, 7:55:45 PM5/31/20
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Tomorrow I go to be tested for the virus prior to my cataract surgery.
This virus sure has made all medical procedures very complicated...
takes forever to be processed at a doctor's office.
This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
than a month and suddenly died from the virus. I was very upset to
hear this news, she was a good friend who I spent many hours having
discussions with. Mario lost his younger sister to cancer some 30
years ago and now his mom is gone. I know his wife, a good Polish
friend's sister in Brooklyn (Kowalski)... as time passes more and more
friends are gone. Soon it will be me and I'm positive that none of
yoose will miss or remember me.
This virus sure has made all medical procedures very complicated...
takes forever to be processed at a doctor's office.
This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
than a month and suddenly died from the virus. I was very upset to
hear this news, she was a good friend who I spent many hours having
discussions with. Mario lost his younger sister to cancer some 30
years ago and now his mom is gone. I know his wife, a good Polish
friend's sister in Brooklyn (Kowalski)... as time passes more and more
friends are gone. Soon it will be me and I'm positive that none of
yoose will miss or remember me.
Bruce
May 31, 2020, 8:01:08 PM5/31/20
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:55:37 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
>Tomorrow I go to be tested for the virus prior to my cataract surgery.
>This virus sure has made all medical procedures very complicated...
>takes forever to be processed at a doctor's office.
>This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
>up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
>than a month and suddenly died from the virus. I was very upset to
>hear this news, she was a good friend who I spent many hours having
>discussions with.
When you say 'discussions' you really mean...
wrote:
>Tomorrow I go to be tested for the virus prior to my cataract surgery.
>This virus sure has made all medical procedures very complicated...
>takes forever to be processed at a doctor's office.
>This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
>up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
>than a month and suddenly died from the virus. I was very upset to
>hear this news, she was a good friend who I spent many hours having
>discussions with.
jmcquown
May 31, 2020, 8:22:23 PM5/31/20
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make sure she or her husband will post your obit if you should die.
I wish you well with the cataract surgery.
Jill
Hank Rogers
May 31, 2020, 8:22:36 PM5/31/20
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Cheer up. Nobody could ever forget yoose!
Hank Rogers
May 31, 2020, 8:29:03 PM5/31/20
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OTOH, Mario might be his son.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
May 31, 2020, 9:27:11 PM5/31/20
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Of course, we'll remember you.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 1, 2020, 7:56:53 AM6/1/20
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:22:30 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:
For goodness sake! He is simply getting cataract surgery!!!!!!!!! I
wish him well.
wrote:
wish him well.
U.S. Janet B.
Jun 1, 2020, 10:54:44 AM6/1/20
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Are you really so worried about the cataract surgery? You've posted
about it several times over the last few years. I thought you had
already done one eye.
Most of us just go in and have it done and don't mention it because
there is nothing to it. By tonight you will be watching TV
comfortably. Don't forget your eye patch before you go to bed.
Chin up and don't fret.
Janet US
Ophelia
Jun 1, 2020, 11:05:18 AM6/1/20
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
news:7e5adf1jc5if73nnk...@4ax.com...
I had both my eyes done several years ago. I don't have any problems
with them:)
GM
Jun 1, 2020, 11:55:23 AM6/1/20
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:-)
--
Best
Greg
Gary
Jun 1, 2020, 12:42:10 PM6/1/20
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One at a time which seems to be the normal schedule.
The second one about a month or two later after the first one
healed. Just follow all directions with eye drops, etc.
I can feel Sheldon's worry though. I would worry about any
surgery even though this one seems very routine.
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
Jun 1, 2020, 2:00:50 PM6/1/20
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Does your family have a history of having a lot of health problems?
If you answered no to both of those then you have a very small chance
of getting sick form the covid joke.
--
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
Ophelia
Jun 1, 2020, 2:59:36 PM6/1/20
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"Gary" wrote in message news:5ED52F6D...@att.net...
I had mine done about one month apart:) Over the years I've had both
knees replaced too.
I am still me though .. honestly:))
dsi1
Jun 1, 2020, 3:18:01 PM6/1/20
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The surgery turned out great - she can now read. She says she can't watch TV though. I told her to get a bigger TV.
Ophelia
Jun 1, 2020, 3:21:07 PM6/1/20
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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:dab9ec65-d3b5-47a2...@googlegroups.com...
LOL well I still need specs because each eye is different:))
Bruce
Jun 1, 2020, 3:40:06 PM6/1/20
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Sheldon Martin
Jun 1, 2020, 4:10:32 PM6/1/20
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more complicated. Not many places here do the test so we had to drive
60 miles one way to the testing place. We didn't/couldn't enter the
building, we had to phone to tell then we arrived, the tech came out
to the parking lot and shoved a swab up my nose while I was seated in
the car, I thought that swab would exit my ear. I won't be told the
results for three days. The only thing that made the test bearable
was that the tech who came out was like in her mid twenties and hot,
Hot, HOT... she was built like the proverbial brick shit house, had a
lovely round butt and bosoms that went on forever... she could have
done anything to me she wanted and I'd never complain. Even with
cateracts I could pass her eyetest; 38 DD+ - 24 - 38. And she was a
redhead with freckles, YUM! I bet she tasted like Red Hots.
jmcquown
Jun 1, 2020, 4:27:21 PM6/1/20
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self. :)
Jill
Hank Rogers
Jun 1, 2020, 5:44:54 PM6/1/20
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minor procedures.
Hank Rogers
Jun 1, 2020, 5:46:57 PM6/1/20
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cshenk
Jun 1, 2020, 8:00:31 PM6/1/20
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Best of luck Sheldon! Talk to us when you can and yes, we care which
side of the sod you are on. Top side up and with some sunscreen is how
I prefer you.
Bruce
Jun 1, 2020, 8:03:49 PM6/1/20
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:00:24 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
>> My mother (soon to be 89) had both of her's done at age 85.
>> One at a time which seems to be the normal schedule.
>> The second one about a month or two later after the first one
>> healed. Just follow all directions with eye drops, etc.
>>
>> I can feel Sheldon's worry though. I would worry about any
>> surgery even though this one seems very routine.
>
>Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues for him.
>
>Best of luck Sheldon! Talk to us when you can and yes, we care which
>side of the sod you are on. Top side up and with some sunscreen is how
>I prefer you.
There must be a better newsgroup for this kind of talk, cshenk.
>Gary wrote:
>
>> My mother (soon to be 89) had both of her's done at age 85.
>> One at a time which seems to be the normal schedule.
>> The second one about a month or two later after the first one
>> healed. Just follow all directions with eye drops, etc.
>>
>> I can feel Sheldon's worry though. I would worry about any
>> surgery even though this one seems very routine.
>
>Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues for him.
>
>Best of luck Sheldon! Talk to us when you can and yes, we care which
>side of the sod you are on. Top side up and with some sunscreen is how
>I prefer you.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 2, 2020, 6:37:38 AM6/2/20
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why you can't drive home afterwards, your eye is totally dilated. He
is panicking needlessly, it is the most wonderful surgery a person can
have.
I remember my eldest aunt, back in the 50's, having amongst the first
ops and she had to lie in bed, her head held stationary for about four
weeks. Now they have it down to half day surgery.
You do have to be religious about the tedious drops afterwards though,
they are key. For people who can't seem to aim drops correctly, there
are now tube gadgets which make that simple.
Janet
Jun 2, 2020, 12:48:48 PM6/2/20
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In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the conscious
patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
Janet UK
@cox.net says...
patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
Janet UK
cshenk
Jun 2, 2020, 9:57:05 PM6/2/20
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cshenk
Jun 2, 2020, 9:58:01 PM6/2/20
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:55:37 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> > This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
> > up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
> > than a month and suddenly died from the virus.
>
> Who puts their mother in a nursing home within the last month, and
> probably in New York?
>
> Your friend wanted his mother to die.
>
> -sw
Way too cold Steve. Might want to rethink that comment.
> On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:55:37 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> > This afternoon I received a phone call from an old friend who I grew
> > up with in Brooklyn, Mario. His mom was in a nursing home for less
> > than a month and suddenly died from the virus.
>
> probably in New York?
>
> Your friend wanted his mother to die.
>
> -sw
Way too cold Steve. Might want to rethink that comment.
Hank Rogers
Jun 2, 2020, 10:56:18 PM6/2/20
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away from Popeye.
U.S. Janet B.
Jun 2, 2020, 11:10:02 PM6/2/20
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knocked out and they want to move on to another patient?
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 3, 2020, 7:50:34 AM6/3/20
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>Janet wrote:
>
>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
>> @cox.net says...
>> >
>> >
>
>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
>> @cox.net says...
>> >
>> >
>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues for
>> > him.
>> >
>>
>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
Then there must be a reason because I don't know anyone to whom they
>> > him.
>> >
>>
>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
did that and many of my friends have had it done.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 3, 2020, 3:28:16 PM6/3/20
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2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very close to
putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over the eye that
has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to evaporate... the
shield so I don't scratch at night as the area around the eye itches.
They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's too soon for me to tell how
well I can see. I have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow
afternoon for a checkup. There was no pain but the surgery was a bit
uncomfortable with having to lie perfectly still for so long... the
gurney was rock hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what
to expect my right eye will be easy.
Hank Rogers
Jun 3, 2020, 4:29:02 PM6/3/20
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titties clearer than ever!
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jun 3, 2020, 5:03:13 PM6/3/20
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:28:16 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure took
> 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very close to
> putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over the eye that
> has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to evaporate... the
> shield so I don't scratch at night as the area around the eye itches.
> They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's too soon for me to tell how
> well I can see. I have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow
> afternoon for a checkup. There was no pain but the surgery was a bit
> uncomfortable with having to lie perfectly still for so long... the
> gurney was rock hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what
> to expect my right eye will be easy.
>
Glad that eye is done and now you know what to expect so hopefully you won't
>
> The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure took
> 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very close to
> putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over the eye that
> has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to evaporate... the
> shield so I don't scratch at night as the area around the eye itches.
> They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's too soon for me to tell how
> well I can see. I have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow
> afternoon for a checkup. There was no pain but the surgery was a bit
> uncomfortable with having to lie perfectly still for so long... the
> gurney was rock hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what
> to expect my right eye will be easy.
>
be so nervous.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 3, 2020, 6:46:20 PM6/3/20
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:28:12 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
I thought it was marvellous surgery, the only thing I felt was a
slight pressure, like someone pressing on my eye ball, but not much.
I have been very pleased with the results, it's great after the first
eye but even better after the second.
Do the drops, that is the most important thing and all up to you to do
it right or you can undo all the surgical benefits.
wrote:
slight pressure, like someone pressing on my eye ball, but not much.
I have been very pleased with the results, it's great after the first
eye but even better after the second.
Do the drops, that is the most important thing and all up to you to do
it right or you can undo all the surgical benefits.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 3, 2020, 8:57:56 PM6/3/20
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:46:16 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
my way.
<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:28:12 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>><lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
>>>>> @cox.net says...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues for
>>>>> > him.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
>>>>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
Most people know little to nothing about COPD... everyone's is
>On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:28:12 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>><lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
>>>>> @cox.net says...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues for
>>>>> > him.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
>>>>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
my way.
Bruce
Jun 3, 2020, 9:28:19 PM6/3/20
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 20:57:51 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
>Most people know little to nothing about COPD... everyone's is
>different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
>which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
>anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
>used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
>expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
>gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
>could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
>better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
>filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
>second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
>better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
>have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
>my way.
I heard a collective sigh of relief from the women in RFC.
wrote:
>Most people know little to nothing about COPD... everyone's is
>different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
>which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
>anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
>used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
>expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
>gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
>could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
>better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
>filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
>second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
>better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
>have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
>my way.
Hank Rogers
Jun 3, 2020, 10:38:23 PM6/3/20
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Leo
Jun 5, 2020, 12:47:04 AM6/5/20
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On 2020 Jun 3, , Sheldon Martin wrote
(in article<skfgdfl6r3nf9u7qc...@4ax.com>):
> I can't tell if I can see
> better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
> filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
> second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
> better.
I’m pretty sure that the plastic cover is so that you won't rub your eye
in your sleep. My surgery was so cheapo that I just had instructions to
“Don’t Rub Your Eye” with no covering provided. You should see a
significant difference when the cover is removed.
Before the next surgery is performed, look at a white surface with your
good eye first and then your bad eye. I noticed that what I thought was
white before, is a lot whiter with your “good” eye. That difference
goes away when the second eye is done and white balances for both eyes.
Use the drops religiously until done or told not to do so. There’s a lot
to lose.
leo
(in article<skfgdfl6r3nf9u7qc...@4ax.com>):
> I can't tell if I can see
> better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
> filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
> second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
> better.
in your sleep. My surgery was so cheapo that I just had instructions to
“Don’t Rub Your Eye” with no covering provided. You should see a
significant difference when the cover is removed.
Before the next surgery is performed, look at a white surface with your
good eye first and then your bad eye. I noticed that what I thought was
white before, is a lot whiter with your “good” eye. That difference
goes away when the second eye is done and white balances for both eyes.
Use the drops religiously until done or told not to do so. There’s a lot
to lose.
leo
Sheldon Martin
Jun 5, 2020, 10:55:34 AM6/5/20
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:46:58 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I'm doing the drops as instructed, two different drops four times a
day plus a rice grain sized amount of salve before bed. I removed the
plastic shield in order to do the drops, I tried retaping it but it
just falls off so I gave up on that. I sleep sitting up due to my
COPD and don't sleep very soundly and I don't touch my eyes. My eyes
were tested yesterday and results were compared to pre-surgery and I'm
seeing better. It will continue to heal and improve. Then in another
ten days the other eye will be done so more drops and more healing.
I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
having to buy Rx glasses can be costly... I learned long ago that the
cheap usually ends up expensive. My last pair of glasses with decent
frames cost $1,000. I was told to pop the lens out for the left eye
that just had surgery, so since I have a set of jeweler's screwdrivers
I had my wife loosen that screw and the lens popped right out... I
still can't see such tiny work... the eyeglass place would have done
it for free but this way was easier/faster. I had my wife retighten
that screw and I placed the lens in a zip-loc for saving. So for now
I'm wearing glasses with one lens... and I've always slept with my
glasses on so I really didn't need that plastic cap taped over my eye.
This Virus is making going to doctors very inconvenient. My wife
drives me but cannot enter the building, she can either sit in her car
in the parking lot or drive home. For the surgery she drove home as
that took 4 hours, because there were 3 people ahead of me so I went
last. Those ahead of me were for right eyes, I was for my left eye,
so the operating room needed to be rearranged. My wife decided it was
better making the one hour round trip than sitting in her car for four
hours and with no facilities. We'll need to go for the pre-op for my
right eye, then another trip to be tested for the virus, a trip for
the surgery and for her to make the round trip again, and also the
post-op for that eye... a lot of trips and nothing is close here. The
place for the virus test is a two hour drive round trip, the test is
given while in the car in the parking lot. There are not many places
to have the virus test and those that are closer had run out of swabs.
wrote:
day plus a rice grain sized amount of salve before bed. I removed the
plastic shield in order to do the drops, I tried retaping it but it
just falls off so I gave up on that. I sleep sitting up due to my
COPD and don't sleep very soundly and I don't touch my eyes. My eyes
were tested yesterday and results were compared to pre-surgery and I'm
seeing better. It will continue to heal and improve. Then in another
ten days the other eye will be done so more drops and more healing.
I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
having to buy Rx glasses can be costly... I learned long ago that the
cheap usually ends up expensive. My last pair of glasses with decent
frames cost $1,000. I was told to pop the lens out for the left eye
that just had surgery, so since I have a set of jeweler's screwdrivers
I had my wife loosen that screw and the lens popped right out... I
still can't see such tiny work... the eyeglass place would have done
it for free but this way was easier/faster. I had my wife retighten
that screw and I placed the lens in a zip-loc for saving. So for now
I'm wearing glasses with one lens... and I've always slept with my
glasses on so I really didn't need that plastic cap taped over my eye.
This Virus is making going to doctors very inconvenient. My wife
drives me but cannot enter the building, she can either sit in her car
in the parking lot or drive home. For the surgery she drove home as
that took 4 hours, because there were 3 people ahead of me so I went
last. Those ahead of me were for right eyes, I was for my left eye,
so the operating room needed to be rearranged. My wife decided it was
better making the one hour round trip than sitting in her car for four
hours and with no facilities. We'll need to go for the pre-op for my
right eye, then another trip to be tested for the virus, a trip for
the surgery and for her to make the round trip again, and also the
post-op for that eye... a lot of trips and nothing is close here. The
place for the virus test is a two hour drive round trip, the test is
given while in the car in the parking lot. There are not many places
to have the virus test and those that are closer had run out of swabs.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jun 5, 2020, 1:39:36 PM6/5/20
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On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:55:34 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
> eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
> nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
> still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
> cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
> choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
> ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
> all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
> having to buy Rx glasses can be costly.
>
I don't blame you, if there is an extra step or procedure to improve your
>
> I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
> eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
> nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
> still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
> cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
> choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
> ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
> all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
> having to buy Rx glasses can be costly.
>
vision even more, why not pay the extra??
>
> This Virus is making going to doctors very inconvenient. My wife
> drives me but cannot enter the building, she can either sit in her car
> in the parking lot or drive home. For the surgery she drove home as
> that took 4 hours, because there were 3 people ahead of me so I went
> last. Those ahead of me were for right eyes, I was for my left eye,
> so the operating room needed to be rearranged. My wife decided it was
> better making the one hour round trip than sitting in her car for four
> hours and with no facilities. We'll need to go for the pre-op for my
> right eye, then another trip to be tested for the virus, a trip for
> the surgery and for her to make the round trip again, and also the
> post-op for that eye... a lot of trips and nothing is close here. The
> place for the virus test is a two hour drive round trip, the test is
> given while in the car in the parking lot. There are not many places
> to have the virus test and those that are closer had run out of swabs.
>
All that driving back and forth on the day of the surgery, is there a
> This Virus is making going to doctors very inconvenient. My wife
> drives me but cannot enter the building, she can either sit in her car
> in the parking lot or drive home. For the surgery she drove home as
> that took 4 hours, because there were 3 people ahead of me so I went
> last. Those ahead of me were for right eyes, I was for my left eye,
> so the operating room needed to be rearranged. My wife decided it was
> better making the one hour round trip than sitting in her car for four
> hours and with no facilities. We'll need to go for the pre-op for my
> right eye, then another trip to be tested for the virus, a trip for
> the surgery and for her to make the round trip again, and also the
> post-op for that eye... a lot of trips and nothing is close here. The
> place for the virus test is a two hour drive round trip, the test is
> given while in the car in the parking lot. There are not many places
> to have the virus test and those that are closer had run out of swabs.
>
motel y'all could stay at overnight? Just a suggestion even though I
know you'd rather be at home afterward.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 5, 2020, 2:39:50 PM6/5/20
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after... no escape. It was really the virus that made things
difficult... I had to be tested prior to and without their being the
virus my wife could enter the hospital and wait with me. There was
nowhere she could wait other than in her car so she drove home and
returned when I was free to leave.
Hank Rogers
Jun 5, 2020, 3:34:12 PM6/5/20
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ole titties?
Dave Smith
Jun 5, 2020, 4:40:36 PM6/5/20
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On 2020-06-05 1:39 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:55:34 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
>> eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
>> nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
>> still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
>> cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
>> choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
>> ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
>> all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
>> having to buy Rx glasses can be costly.
>>
> I don't blame you, if there is an extra step or procedure to improve your
> vision even more, why not pay the extra??
My wife paid an extra $1200 and got a multi corrective lens implant. She
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:55:34 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I was told not to compare with other people's results as everyone's
>> eyes are different and surgerys are done differently. I chose to pay
>> nearly $1,500 per inserted lens for my astigmatism. If not then I'd
>> still need to wear glasses but a lesser Rx. However I will need those
>> cheap readers for close up seeing. I discovered that most people
>> choose not to pay for the astigmatism lenses. It took me less than
>> ten seconds deciding to choose the astigmatism lenses, why go through
>> all this surgery and inconvenience if not going the full monty... plus
>> having to buy Rx glasses can be costly.
>>
> I don't blame you, if there is an extra step or procedure to improve your
> vision even more, why not pay the extra??
had worn glasses since she was a kid and for the first time in 60 years
no longer needed them. However, she later suffered from a detached
retina. The corrective surgery was successful, but now she needs reading
glasses in low light.
> All that driving back and forth on the day of the surgery, is there a
> motel y'all could stay at overnight? Just a suggestion even though I
> know you'd rather be at home afterward.
>
the doctor's office for the follow up about the same distance, though in
the opposite direction.
When we went in for my wife's retinal surgery there was an old lady
there by herself. She had arrived by bus and was planning to go home by
bus. She had no family other than a niece who works. They would not do
the cataract surgery unless she had someone to drive her home.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 5, 2020, 5:55:20 PM6/5/20
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home. My wife drove me and changed her medical appointments to
accomodate. We worked it out and for my right eye we can go to a
place right across the road from the hospital for the virus test, why
they didn't schedual for the test there to begin with is beyond us.
Instead for the first eye they sent us nearly a hundred miles north of
here, an awful place, was like having the test in the parking lot of a
deliverance gasateria. My wife figured that the doctor had a
connection with that place and got a kickback for sending patients
there, I think she was right. She worked as an accountant for Colgate
Palmolive for many years and so she's up on all that billing hours
finagleling. She says that doctors typically add extras in order to
pad their bill... what should cost $100 ends up costing $500... the
Ins. companies go along with it
Hank Rogers
Jun 5, 2020, 7:43:43 PM6/5/20
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gave her a ride home after he finished.
Hank Rogers
Jun 5, 2020, 7:52:43 PM6/5/20
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in the parking lot while yoose was inside oogling the nurse's tits.
Yoose will probably get a bill from the doc after he saw how ugly
yoose old dried up wimmen was.
He deserves to be paid for putting up with yoose sorry ass, and
yoose old wimmens.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jun 5, 2020, 8:36:02 PM6/5/20
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On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> When we went in for my wife's retinal surgery there was an old lady
> there by herself. She had arrived by bus and was planning to go home by
> bus. She had no family other than a niece who works. They would not do
> the cataract surgery unless she had someone to drive her home.
>
Surely they must know some people just don't have any near or living
>
> When we went in for my wife's retinal surgery there was an old lady
> there by herself. She had arrived by bus and was planning to go home by
> bus. She had no family other than a niece who works. They would not do
> the cataract surgery unless she had someone to drive her home.
>
relatives.
graham
Jun 5, 2020, 8:52:40 PM6/5/20
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Dave Smith
Jun 5, 2020, 10:14:29 PM6/5/20
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stuff like that. They just weren't going to go ahead with the surgery
that day if she had no ride and no one to help her.
Dave Smith
Jun 5, 2020, 10:25:50 PM6/5/20
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go. I was already dealing with my wife's retinal surgery, and she was
pretty frantic about that.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jun 6, 2020, 12:29:09 AM6/6/20
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Lucretia Borgia
Jun 6, 2020, 6:22:42 AM6/6/20
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eye totally dilated.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 8:38:25 AM6/6/20
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 21:29:06 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
appointments every day except weekends and holidays. It's a free
service but they encourage paying a small fee of $5-$10 to cover the
volunteer's expense.
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2020-06-05 8:35 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When we went in for my wife's retinal surgery there was an old lady
>> >> there by herself. She had arrived by bus and was planning to go home by
>> >> bus. She had no family other than a niece who works. They would not do
>> >> the cataract surgery unless she had someone to drive her home.
>> >>
>> > Surely they must know some people just don't have any near or living
>> > relatives.
>> >
>>
>> Yes they do. The referred her to a volunteer organization that does
>> stuff like that. They just weren't going to go ahead with the surgery
>> that day if she had no ride and no one to help her.
>>
>Ok, that's good. At least they have an organization to help her out.
Senior citizen organizations here provide transportation for medical
>On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2020-06-05 8:35 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:40:36 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When we went in for my wife's retinal surgery there was an old lady
>> >> there by herself. She had arrived by bus and was planning to go home by
>> >> bus. She had no family other than a niece who works. They would not do
>> >> the cataract surgery unless she had someone to drive her home.
>> >>
>> > Surely they must know some people just don't have any near or living
>> > relatives.
>> >
>>
>> Yes they do. The referred her to a volunteer organization that does
>> stuff like that. They just weren't going to go ahead with the surgery
>> that day if she had no ride and no one to help her.
>>
>Ok, that's good. At least they have an organization to help her out.
appointments every day except weekends and holidays. It's a free
service but they encourage paying a small fee of $5-$10 to cover the
volunteer's expense.
Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 9:37:00 AM6/6/20
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with a wife who was frantic about losing her sight. As soon as
Megatron's procedure was completed I had to drive about an hour to get
her home and settled.... face down 24 hours a day for 10 days. It was
not the time to be running around another city and then sitting with an
elderly stranger.
Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 9:57:09 AM6/6/20
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regulated most places. Driving people around requires a livery license
of some type, and then commercial insurance. I just looked up something
regarding the Cancer Society driver volunteers and it advises people to
tell their insurance companies that they are not being compensated.
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 10:00:49 AM6/6/20
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volunteer to drive someone you met in a waiting room who needed cataract
surgery.
Jill
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 10:01:21 AM6/6/20
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Jill
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 10:05:49 AM6/6/20
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waiting room (a stranger) had taken a BUS to get to and from her
cataract surgery, she wasn't going to be driving. They wouldn't do the
surgery even though she wasn't going to be driving. I think that sucks.
It's not Dave's problem, though. A detached retina requires extensive
home care. As he stated, face down 24/7 for 10 days. He needed to be
at home with her, not driving someone else to and from appointments.
Jill
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 6, 2020, 10:22:17 AM6/6/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:05:45 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Amazing, you didn't change the subject line to Saint Dave !
wrote:
Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 10:48:49 AM6/6/20
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volunteers would man the phones a couple of days a week in order to
assist people with all sorts of problems such as obtaining free
heating fuel. I delivered for Meals On Wheels a day or two a week and
I occasionally drove people to the hospital for their cancer
treatments. However all the volunteers were carefully checked out.
It's not recommended for people to accept a ride from a stranger they
just met. We wore an ID plaque with our picture, organization, and
number. I don't believe there is anywhere in the US that people can't
obtain free/inexpensive transportation for medical reasons... probably
the same in Canada and elsewhere. Doctors can direct a patient to a
transportation agency.
Very often elderly people have no living relatives or friends who can
help them. If my wife couldn't drive me to my eye surgery
appointments there was no one else. All people I know from the past
are now gone, live far away, or need help themselves. Of the
neighbors who I know we don't have the kind of relationship that I
could expect them to give up a day's work to bring me to a hospital
and wait there for me and bring me home.
Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 11:01:25 AM6/6/20
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expect me to offer to drive her home and spend a couple hours with her.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 6, 2020, 12:12:33 PM6/6/20
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Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 1:26:01 PM6/6/20
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On 2020-06-06 12:12 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> Amazing, you didn't change the subject line to Saint Dave !
>>>
>>
>> It's even more amazing that, given the reason I was there, you would
>> expect me to offer to drive her home and spend a couple hours with her.
>>
> I would have called one of my kids and said, urgent job here for you.
>
Hell. If I had known that and had their number I could have called them.
>>>
>>
>> It's even more amazing that, given the reason I was there, you would
>> expect me to offer to drive her home and spend a couple hours with her.
>>
> I would have called one of my kids and said, urgent job here for you.
>
cshenk
Jun 6, 2020, 2:08:32 PM6/6/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Janet wrote:
> > >
> >>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>,
> cshenk1 >>> @cox.net says...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues
> for >>> > him.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
> >>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
> >>>
> >>> Janet UK
> > >
> > > Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
> >
> > Then there must be a reason because I don't know anyone to whom they
> > did that and many of my friends have had it done.
>
> The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure took
> 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very close to
> putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over the eye that
> has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to evaporate... the
> shield so I don't scratch at night as the area around the eye itches.
> They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's too soon for me to tell how
> well I can see. I have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow
> afternoon for a checkup. There was no pain but the surgery was a bit
> uncomfortable with having to lie perfectly still for so long... the
> gurney was rock hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what
> to expect my right eye will be easy.
Glad to see you are well Sheldon. Best I can tell there are several
types of conditions and not all of them 'take just a few minutes'.
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Janet wrote:
> > >
> >>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>,
> cshenk1 >>> @cox.net says...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues
> for >>> > him.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
> >>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
> >>>
> >>> Janet UK
> > >
> > > Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
> >
> > Then there must be a reason because I don't know anyone to whom they
> > did that and many of my friends have had it done.
>
> The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure took
> 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very close to
> putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over the eye that
> has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to evaporate... the
> shield so I don't scratch at night as the area around the eye itches.
> They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's too soon for me to tell how
> well I can see. I have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow
> afternoon for a checkup. There was no pain but the surgery was a bit
> uncomfortable with having to lie perfectly still for so long... the
> gurney was rock hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what
> to expect my right eye will be easy.
Glad to see you are well Sheldon. Best I can tell there are several
types of conditions and not all of them 'take just a few minutes'.
cshenk
Jun 6, 2020, 2:12:03 PM6/6/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:46:16 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
> different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
> which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
> anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
> used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
> expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
> gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
> could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
> better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
> filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
> second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
> better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
> have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
> my way.
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:46:16 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:28:12 -0400, Sheldon Martin
> > <penm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> >><lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
> > >
> >>>On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Janet wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>,
> cshenk1 >>>>> @cox.net says...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues
> for >>>>> > him.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
> >>>>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Janet UK
> > > > >
> > > > > Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
>
> Most people know little to nothing about COPD... everyone's is
> > On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:28:12 -0400, Sheldon Martin
> > <penm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> >><lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
> > >
> >>>On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 20:56:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Janet wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>> In article <9PudnYq-PJ8FC0jD...@giganews.com>,
> cshenk1 >>>>> @cox.net says...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Sheldon has COPD. That means the anasthetics make for issues
> for >>>>> > him.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cataract surgery is done under local anaesthetic with the
> >>>>> conscious patient breathing for themself, , so no issue for COPD
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Janet UK
> > > > >
> > > > > Not always. Don is pending it and they knock him out for it.
>
> different whereas the damaged tissue can produce substantial mucous
> which is difficult to expel, and not at all when asleep or under
> anesthesia. I sleep sitting up, that works for me, after so long I'm
> used to it. I also have medications that thin the mucous and help me
> expel it. Combivent Respimat works well for me. The anesthesa they
> gave me didn't put me under, just made me almost out but not quite, I
> could still cough and clear my throat. I can't tell if I can see
> better as I still have a clear plastic cover over my eye but it's all
> filled with holes to let moisture out. I really won't know until the
> second eye is done and healed but I have faith that I'll see much
> better. I'm not worried, my mom always said I can make anything, I
> have golden hands. Yoose gals needn't be concerned, I can always feel
> my way.
>
> > > > Then there must be a reason because I don't know anyone to whom
> > > > they did that and many of my friends have had it done.
> > >
> > > The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure
> > > took 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very
> > > close to putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over
> > > the eye that has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to
> > > evaporate... the shield so I don't scratch at night as the area
> > > around the eye itches. They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's
> > > too soon for me to tell how well I can see. I have an
> > > appointment with the surgeon tomorrow afternoon for a checkup.
> > > There was no pain but the surgery was a bit uncomfortable with
> > > having to lie perfectly still for so long... the gurney was rock
> > > hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what to expect
> > > my right eye will be easy.
Don has COPD so I DO understand it. You are right, most here do not.
> > > > Then there must be a reason because I don't know anyone to whom
> > > > they did that and many of my friends have had it done.
> > >
> > > The surgery on my left eye was done today. The entire proceedure
> > > took 2 1/2 hours, a lot of prep and the anasthesia came very
> > > close to putting me out. I have a hard clear plastic shield over
> > > the eye that has many holes in it, I suppose for moisture to
> > > evaporate... the shield so I don't scratch at night as the area
> > > around the eye itches. They gave me pair of sun glasses. It's
> > > too soon for me to tell how well I can see. I have an
> > > appointment with the surgeon tomorrow afternoon for a checkup.
> > > There was no pain but the surgery was a bit uncomfortable with
> > > having to lie perfectly still for so long... the gurney was rock
> > > hard and not at all comfortable. Now that I know what to expect
> > > my right eye will be easy.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 2:19:26 PM6/6/20
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providing the service. The organizations provide vans and may arrange
for several people to be driven to a destination all at once, they are
picked up and dropped off by a schedual. When I transported people to
a hospital for their cancer treatment it was one person at a time, I
picked up at home and dropped them off at home later after the
treatment was completed. The Islip Hotline operated the service and I
had a taxi drivers licence, still do as I used to drive a taxi long
ago and I still keep that licence, costs a little more but one never
knows when it'll come in handy... it permits me to operate a truck
over a certain weight too. The Town of Islip provided the
transportation and maintained the insurance. After a few years I got
a phone call from the woman's daughter who lived in Austrailia to
thank me for taking care of her mother's transportation... the woman
didn't make it, cancer won.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 2:34:05 PM6/6/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:01:18 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Here the transportation companies accompany you until the procedure is
completed and bring you home. If I had no other choice I would
arrange for that transportation. I keep their contact info handy.
Senior centers make transportation arrangements.
wrote:
completed and bring you home. If I had no other choice I would
arrange for that transportation. I keep their contact info handy.
Senior centers make transportation arrangements.
Bruce
Jun 6, 2020, 3:47:07 PM6/6/20
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cshenk
Jun 6, 2020, 4:02:13 PM6/6/20
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a cab to get Don and back once (car in shop).
cshenk
Jun 6, 2020, 4:03:35 PM6/6/20
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Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 6:14:34 PM6/6/20
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pain but was uncomfortable because of the very hard surface they had
me lying on. It was not nearly so bad as I was expecting.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 6, 2020, 6:23:28 PM6/6/20
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yet) and the medications don't always help. Still the eye drops are a
must and I apply them as needed... they act as tears to lubricate the
eye and to prevent disease.
Bruce
Jun 6, 2020, 6:53:46 PM6/6/20
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On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 18:23:21 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
Is COPD mainly a smoker's disease?
wrote:
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 6:58:57 PM6/6/20
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appointments when his wife needed constant care at home for repair of a
detached retina.
Jill
Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 7:02:23 PM6/6/20
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have a fatty lump on the side of my eyeball. I had had a chilazion in
the same years years earlier. It turned out that what was bothering me
was not that deposit but dry eye resulting from age and having had that
chilazion reamed out so loss of tear duct.
After 4 years of monitoring and several CTscans the doctor said not
worry about the lump. At his suggestion I had been using Sustane eye
drops. On one visit he asked my how often I was using the Sustane. and
why I was not using it more often. I told him that I use it when my eye
is bothering me Using it once or twice usually does such a good job that
the annoyance goes away and I just don't think about it until my eye
starts to bother me again.
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 7:03:12 PM6/6/20
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the woman up and taken her to/from the cataract clinic. Or taken care
of Dave's wife for the 10 days after retinal surgery, 24/7. Can't have
it both ways.
Jill
jmcquown
Jun 6, 2020, 7:22:03 PM6/6/20
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woman when his wife just had more than cataract surgery, surgery to
repair a detached retina.
It's not his fault the clinic wouldn't let the woman ride the bus to and
from. I hope she found some organization to help her get it done but I
don't think it was Dave's responsibility to volunteer to drive this
woman to/from. He didn't even know her.
Glad your first eyeball turned out well, Sheldon. From what I've heard
they usually do.
You're absolutely right about medical procedures being held up a bit
because of Covid-19 testing. They absolutely are doing their best to
make sure people aren't infecting everyone in the clinic.
Jill
Hank Rogers
Jun 6, 2020, 7:23:17 PM6/6/20
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Hank Rogers
Jun 6, 2020, 7:26:03 PM6/6/20
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Yoose should have stuck with the cheap cigars.
Hank Rogers
Jun 6, 2020, 7:26:58 PM6/6/20
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cshenk
Jun 6, 2020, 8:33:13 PM6/6/20
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have to see how it goes.
Bruce
Jun 6, 2020, 9:18:15 PM6/6/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:21:58 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>You're absolutely right about medical procedures being held up a bit
>because of Covid-19 testing. They absolutely are doing their best to
>make sure people aren't infecting everyone in the clinic.
Not much escapes you.
wrote:
>You're absolutely right about medical procedures being held up a bit
>because of Covid-19 testing. They absolutely are doing their best to
>make sure people aren't infecting everyone in the clinic.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 6, 2020, 10:47:09 PM6/6/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:58:53 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
Have you never done a good deed for another human being? Very sorry
for you if not.
for you if not.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 6, 2020, 10:49:05 PM6/6/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:03:09 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
You two sure show the way you think inwards. Sometime - try thinking
empathetically of others.
wrote:
empathetically of others.
Dave Smith
Jun 6, 2020, 11:09:43 PM6/6/20
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defending me my explaining that I was already pretty much overwhelmed
with caring for my wife after her retinal surgery, which was a hell of a
lot more serious than that stranger's cataract. You.... would have
called one of your kids. Yeah right. My reason is a hell of a lot more
valid that the excuses they would be making.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 7, 2020, 7:55:17 AM6/7/20
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anyone else but yourself. One day try it out, do something for a
stranger and see their response.
Gary
Jun 7, 2020, 8:34:56 AM6/7/20
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jmcquown
Jun 7, 2020, 9:27:52 AM6/7/20
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Jill
Dave Smith
Jun 7, 2020, 9:44:53 AM6/7/20
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On 2020-06-07 7:55 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 23:09:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-06-06 10:49 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:03:09 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/6/2020 1:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-06-06 12:12 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 23:09:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-06-06 10:49 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:03:09 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/6/2020 1:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-06-06 12:12 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>> I would have called one of my kids and said, urgent job here for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hell. If I had known that and had their number I could have called them.
>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah, maybe one of Lucretia's kids or grandkids could have picked
>>>> the woman up and taken her to/from the cataract clinic. Or taken care
>>>> of Dave's wife for the 10 days after retinal surgery, 24/7. Can't have
>>>> it both ways.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> You two sure show the way you think inwards. Sometime - try thinking
>>> empathetically of others.
>>>
>>
>> Wow. You are really scrapping on the bottom to be dumping on Jill for
>> defending me my explaining that I was already pretty much overwhelmed
>> with caring for my wife after her retinal surgery, which was a hell of a
>> lot more serious than that stranger's cataract. You.... would have
>> called one of your kids. Yeah right. My reason is a hell of a lot more
>> valid that the excuses they would be making.
>
> Calm down Dave! It was stupid to think you would ever do/think of
> anyone else but yourself. One day try it out, do something for a
> stranger and see their response.
>
Screw you old hag. You could have just stopped after "I was stupid"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hell. If I had known that and had their number I could have called them.
>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah, maybe one of Lucretia's kids or grandkids could have picked
>>>> the woman up and taken her to/from the cataract clinic. Or taken care
>>>> of Dave's wife for the 10 days after retinal surgery, 24/7. Can't have
>>>> it both ways.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> You two sure show the way you think inwards. Sometime - try thinking
>>> empathetically of others.
>>>
>>
>> Wow. You are really scrapping on the bottom to be dumping on Jill for
>> defending me my explaining that I was already pretty much overwhelmed
>> with caring for my wife after her retinal surgery, which was a hell of a
>> lot more serious than that stranger's cataract. You.... would have
>> called one of your kids. Yeah right. My reason is a hell of a lot more
>> valid that the excuses they would be making.
>
> Calm down Dave! It was stupid to think you would ever do/think of
> anyone else but yourself. One day try it out, do something for a
> stranger and see their response.
>
because you were an idiot do expect that I should stay at the clinic and
wait for a completer stranger who needed a ride home and someone to stay
with her. I was so fucking selfish that I had prioritized my wife's much
more serious condition and care needs.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 7, 2020, 10:17:05 AM6/7/20
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were not 3 or 4 thousand miles away, they would have done it.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 7, 2020, 10:20:24 AM6/7/20
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:27:49 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
It was exactly the time to step in. Recently I was at the checkout at
the supermarket and the old fellow ahead of me decided maybe he had
too many groceries to walk home and asked the cashier if it was
possible to phone for a cab. I asked him where he had to get to,
wasn't really on my way but not too far from it and offered him a
drive. En route he thanked me and told me he would have had less
groceries next week if he had to pay a cab.
the supermarket and the old fellow ahead of me decided maybe he had
too many groceries to walk home and asked the cashier if it was
possible to phone for a cab. I asked him where he had to get to,
wasn't really on my way but not too far from it and offered him a
drive. En route he thanked me and told me he would have had less
groceries next week if he had to pay a cab.
Lucretia Borgia
Jun 7, 2020, 10:21:53 AM6/7/20
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:44:48 -0400, Dave Smith
Aren't you the poster who is so against personalised insults ???
jmcquown
Jun 7, 2020, 10:32:33 AM6/7/20
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store last year when it started pouring down rain. There was a woman
who had walked to the store. I didn't know her but I heard her say she
hated to have to walk home in the rain. I asked where she needed to go
- it was a few miles out of my way but hey! I gave her a ride home. She
thanked me profusely and told me to feel free to drop by any time for a
beer. ;) Thing is, there wasn't someone waiting at home who had just
had surgery to repair a *detached retina*. That's the point you insist
on missing.
Jill
jmcquown
Jun 7, 2020, 10:35:26 AM6/7/20
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called them and they'd have stepped right up?
Jill
Dave Smith
Jun 7, 2020, 10:40:29 AM6/7/20
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frequently attempt to discredit me with your idiotic false assumptions.
I have worked with a number of charities and helped out with food banks
and fund raisers. I was worked with and was on the board of a charity
that provide therapeutic riding lessons people with physical and mental
disabilities. For the last 12 years I have helped out with the local art
festival that raises money for scholarships for arts students and for
the local library and for the last four years I have been on the board.
You keep throwing out these cheap insults and you keep making more a
fool of yourself than me because they are lies that you dream up.
I mentioned about that old lady who could not have the surgery because
she had no ride and no one to stay with her. Graham had suggested that I
could have done it. I pointed out that I was there to drive and to care
for my wife who was having retinal surgery. He had the good sense drop
it, but you are just too fucking dense to realize what an ass you are
making of yourself.
Dave Smith
Jun 7, 2020, 10:45:34 AM6/7/20
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On 2020-06-07 10:21 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:44:48 -0400, Dave Smith
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:44:48 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> Calm down Dave! It was stupid to think you would ever do/think of
>>> anyone else but yourself. One day try it out, do something for a
>>> stranger and see their response.
>>>
>>
>> Screw you old hag. You could have just stopped after "I was stupid"
>> because you were an idiot do expect that I should stay at the clinic and
>> wait for a completer stranger who needed a ride home and someone to stay
>> with her. I was so fucking selfish that I had prioritized my wife's much
>> more serious condition and care needs.
>
> Aren't you the poster who is so against personalised insults ???
>
Really? You are constantly making up lies about me to discredit me and
>>> anyone else but yourself. One day try it out, do something for a
>>> stranger and see their response.
>>>
>>
>> Screw you old hag. You could have just stopped after "I was stupid"
>> because you were an idiot do expect that I should stay at the clinic and
>> wait for a completer stranger who needed a ride home and someone to stay
>> with her. I was so fucking selfish that I had prioritized my wife's much
>> more serious condition and care needs.
>
> Aren't you the poster who is so against personalised insults ???
>
insult me and you should be exempt from replies in kind because you are
old and stupid?
Dave Smith
Jun 7, 2020, 10:51:55 AM6/7/20
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caring that she would have called them about the urgent job... Oh wait..
they are too far away, so she could not do that. Sadly, that has not
stopped her from hurting her arm patting herself on the back.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 7, 2020, 10:53:01 AM6/7/20
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under dusty conditions such as farmers spraying crops and live stock
kicking up dust, smoky factory work, mining, cooking is about the
worst. Not too many years ago there were no respirators.... about all
one coud do is go cowboy with a bandana. I've not seen a line cook
yet wearing a respirator... fast food fry cooks should wear
respirators but none do. Working a shift making french fries is as
bad, perhaps worse than chain smoking. Automobile mechanic is another
terrible occupation for respiratory illnesses, constantly being in
close proximty to exhaust fumes. Very few vehicles are fitted with
cabin filters and those that exist are not very good... even with
driving electric vehicles inhaling miles of tire/macadam dust is not
healthful. Truth is most people who have COPD don't smoke tobacco,
for most it's an occupational injury, cooking at home can be as bad as
working in a commercial kitchen, most home kitchens don't have
suitable exhaust systems, and most home cooks don't turn them on until
after the fumes set off the smoke alarm.
I began smoking in the Navy because the US military handed out free
cigarettes like candy. Couldn't be a chain smoker as smoking was only
permitted when the smoking lamp was lit and then only above decks. I
smoked for about six months and then gave it up... I stopped smoking
many years ago. Working most of my life in machine shops is what
caused my COPD.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 7, 2020, 11:34:52 AM6/7/20
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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 19:21:58 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
Dave would have been a moron to drive a total stranger to/from a
medical appointment even he wasn't caring for his wife... that would
have all the inherent risks of hitchhiking.... nowadays sane people
don't hitchhike. The woman was a moron too asking a total stranger
for a ride. She didn't know Dave and Dave didn't know her... she had
to be an imbecile having a strange man know where she lives all by her
lonesome. There are many ways she could have gotten transportation at
little or no cost from one of the many agencies that do that... there
are many legitimate agencies that help people with transportation for
medical needs. I used to volunteer through such an agency, that was a
lot safer for all concerned. I wouldn't drive a strange women, or
man, that hadn't been checked out by an agency either. For being a
good boy scout Dave could have easily have found himself in prison.
medical appointment even he wasn't caring for his wife... that would
have all the inherent risks of hitchhiking.... nowadays sane people
don't hitchhike. The woman was a moron too asking a total stranger
for a ride. She didn't know Dave and Dave didn't know her... she had
to be an imbecile having a strange man know where she lives all by her
lonesome. There are many ways she could have gotten transportation at
little or no cost from one of the many agencies that do that... there
are many legitimate agencies that help people with transportation for
medical needs. I used to volunteer through such an agency, that was a
lot safer for all concerned. I wouldn't drive a strange women, or
man, that hadn't been checked out by an agency either. For being a
good boy scout Dave could have easily have found himself in prison.
Sheldon Martin
Jun 7, 2020, 11:51:00 AM6/7/20
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anesthsia took affect it didn't matter. There were also a lot of drops
that numbed my eye and surrounding area. They told me that I'd not
feel any pain and not remember much, they were right on both counts.
The only difficulty I experienced was blowing my nose afterward, the
left nostral made my left eye feel a bit of discomfort... to remove
mucous it's best to blow ones nose gently anyway.
Dave Smith
Jun 7, 2020, 11:54:30 AM6/7/20
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cataract surgery I mentioned that when my wife was waiting for her
retinal surgery there as a old lady who they would not do the procedure
on because she did not have a ride home or someone to stay with her for
a couple hours. Graham made a quip about how I should have offered.
The old hag has been harping ever since about how I should have
volunteered, completely ignoring the fact that I already had my hands
full being out of town with my wife for a vision saving surgery that
required a lot of after care.
My wife had to remain face down 24/7 for 0 days. I had to look after her
eye drops, cooking, cleaning, laundry.... everything. But in the old
crones demented mind I was being selfish.
. she had
> to be an imbecile having a strange man know where she lives all by her
> lonesome. There are many ways she could have gotten transportation at
> little or no cost from one of the many agencies that do that... there
> are many legitimate agencies that help people with transportation for
> medical needs. I used to volunteer through such an agency, that was a
> lot safer for all concerned. I wouldn't drive a strange women, or
> man, that hadn't been checked out by an agency either. For being a
> good boy scout Dave could have easily have found himself in prison.
woman there who was eager but she had some personal issues that set up
some red flags, and she needed a ride. The president of the charity
tried to arrange a ride, but expressly forbid the men from doing it. You
understand the reasons, but the old crone would insist on other reasons.
>
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