Dirty grapes

[KenK]

I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.

I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!

Something else to watch out for.



--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

[KenK]

KenK <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in
news:XnsAC425F4CC2...@130.133.4.11:

> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust
> and dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I
> never noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare,
> problem? Have I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't
> eat them often, preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after
> supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
> Something else to watch out for.
>
>
>

The name on the bag is "Four Star Trails".

[KenK]

KenK <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in
news:XnsAC425F4CC2...@130.133.4.11:

> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust
> and dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I
> never noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare,
> problem? Have I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't
> eat them often, preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after
> supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
> Something else to watch out for.
>
>
>

The name on the bag is "Four Star Trails"

[Hank Rogers]

Sounds like a horse boarding/riding type of place. You sure that
"dirt" ain't horse shit?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/24/2020 12:22 PM, KenK wrote:
> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
> Something else to watch out for.
>
>
>

Never saw grapes with dust of any sort. I sometimes give a quick rinse,
but I often just pluck a few from the bag and eat. They always looked
clean enough. Never got sick from them

[U.S. Janet B.]

On 24 Sep 2020 16:22:06 GMT, KenK <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:

>I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
>dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
>noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
>I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
>preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
>I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
>Something else to watch out for.

Put them in a big bowl, run cold water into the bowl, swish the grapes
around in the water, drain, place in Ziploc bag in fridge. Eat.
The grapes grow in dirt, (so do all kinds of fruits and veggies) They
are picked and put in a box as is. If it was windy, dusty when
picking occurred, produce will be dusty.
Janet US

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-09-24 12:22 p.m., KenK wrote:
> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!

Well. You gotta watch out for the grapes that Walmart grows.

[Taxed and Spent]

Are these California smoked grapes?

[Bryan Simmons]

I don't normally place much stock in the stuff that Hank writes, but in
this case I think he's onto something. Ken's grapes probably have
horse poop on them.

> Janet US

--Bryan

[Dave Smith]

Grapes grow in dirt???? The vines are in the dirt. The grapes grow in
clusters on the vines and are nowhere near the dirt. They usually aren't
even close enough to the ground for even the heaviest rainfall to splash
on them.

[jmcquown]

Yep! I never fail to wash/rinse fresh fruit and produce including
grapes and berries. No one wants to eat dirty/dusty grapes. I forget
where KenK lives, maybe in Arizona? Maybe where it's bone dry and
dusty. I don't recall.

Jill

[Sheldon Martin]

All produce should be washed; insecticides... I don't use any
insecticides in my garden but still I inspect for creepy crawlers and
the easiest way is a bucket of water before I bring them indoors.

[Ed Pawlowski]

From the Grapery:
https://grapery.biz/index.php/faq
Are your grapes organic? Do you use pesticides?
Our grapes are not organic. We do apply pesticides to our vines, however
they are composed of materials that degrade quickly and are
environmentally friendly. We find organic practices tend to leave farms
vulnerable to drought and pestilence. We just don’t believe in that.

Our more modern agricultural practices make every effort to be safe and
responsible. It boils down to rigorous experimenting where we add
nutritional complexity and nurture the perfect soil biology to
strengthen and sustain our vines.

At Grapery, safety comes first. Always. All of our fruit is tested for
residues before harvested so they are good and healthy to consume. We
also recommend that you wash any fruit or produce you handle before you
take a bite.


Also found this. Good to know since I often have some late in the evening
Is it OK to eat grapes at night?
Finally, the last food that you'll want to consider having before bed to
help promote a restful night's sleep is grapes. Grapes are the only
fruit found to contain the sleep-regulating hormone melatonin, so by
adding them regularly to your diet, you can help boost the natural
sleep-wake cycle in the body.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 1:48:03 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Yep! I never fail to wash/rinse fresh fruit and produce including
> grapes and berries.
>

> Jill
>
When I buy them I plop them in a colander and give them a good rinse/spray.
I'll leave them in the colander in the dish drainer for a while then they go in a
bowl and in the 'frig.

[Graham]

And if they are labelled "organic", leave them in the store otherwise
no amount of rinsing will get rid of the "bugs".

[jmcquown]

Nor the higher price tag for something we have no proof of being "organic".

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I make it a point not to wash fruit until I am about to eat it.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:07:31 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

So in the US, producers can call their produce "organic" when it's
not. All y'all could learn so much from Europeans and Australians.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 6:08:56 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I make it a point not to wash fruit until I am about to eat it.
>

I wash grapes as soon as I bring them home. Then I snack on them
until they are gone, usually in a few days. Apples and pears are only
washed right before I consume them, peaches, too.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 7:06:56 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> So in the US, producers can call their produce "organic" when it's
> not. All y'all could learn so much from Europeans and Australians.
>

No, but organic is no more healthy than the regularly available fruits
and vegetables.

[Bruce]

That depends how much herbicides and pesticides remain in or on the
produce. Bananas and strawberries come to mind.

But is it true that anybody can say their produce is organic in the
US, whether it's true or not? Is there no regulatory body or anything?

[U.S. Janet B.]

Organic certification in US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_certification
I don't think the above posters meant to make farmers in the US sound
stupid
Janet US

[Ed Pawlowski]

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2012/10/10/organic-101-five-steps-organic-certification

[Bruce]

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:48:48 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

"List of countries with regulations on organic agriculture:
US: Fully implemented".

So Jill was talking out of her proverbial.

[Bruce]

There you go. So there IS proof whether something is organic.

[Hank Rogers]

And yoose immediately sniffed it!

[Leo]

On 2020 Sep 24, , Bruce wrote
(in article<asfqmfhjk0t7pohjd...@4ax.com>):

> But is it true that anybody can say their produce is organic in the
> US, whether it's true or not? Is there no regulatory body or anything?

Do you mean government “inspectors" checking things out that one can lie to
or pay off. I don’t buy organic, so I don’t care. Organic looks the same
or worse. It never looks better. Buy into the program, and pay the price. You
betcha!

[Bruce]

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:28:56 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Lots of health related things are checked with regard to food. A claim
of "organic" is one of them. 65+ people always seem to hate organic
because it's more expensive and it doesn't always look perfect and
shiny. That's how 65+ people roll :)

[Julie Bove]

"KenK" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:XnsAC425F4CC2...@130.133.4.11...

>I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
> Something else to watch out for.

The fires are affecting the grapes. They said on the news, it could affect
the taste they probably won't be able to make wine from them. I have not
seen dirty grapes here as of yet though.

[Julie Bove]

"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:CL5bH.572663$DO2.4...@fx45.iad...

True. But if they were grown in an area affected by all these fires. they
will have ash/smoke residue on them. Same for apples.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
news:13dqmf1ulgeg0qast...@4ax.com...

It's not true. Organic foods are tested. They have to pass or they can't be
labeled as such.

[Julie Bove]

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:7b849693-5076-4fa0...@googlegroups.com...

Of course it is! You think pesticides are healthy?

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

news:asfqmfhjk0t7pohjd...@4ax.com...

Not true.

[Bruce]

Good, please tell McBiddy.

[Bruce]

Yes, I would hope so. You don't live in Mozambique.

[Julie Bove]

"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

news:Rs5bH.572661$DO2.5...@fx45.iad...

> On 2020-09-24 12:22 p.m., KenK wrote:
>> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
>> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
>> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem?
>> Have
>> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
>> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>>
>> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>

> Well. You gotta watch out for the grapes that Walmart grows.

They grow them in the dirt!

[Gary]

Dave Smith wrote:
> I make it a point not to wash fruit until I am about to eat it.

That's a good idea for some things.

Remember years ago, you buy a 10lb bag of white potatoes...
they came in a paper bag with a mesh window. The potatoes
inside were coated with dirt.

Potatoes last longer with the dirt coating.
Now we get bags of washed potatoes and they don't last
as long.

I helped a small farmer pull potatoes one day. Pulled out
the plant with many potatoes. Gave them a shake to lose
excess dirt, then let them sit out on the mound
for hours until the dirt dried then stored them that way
down in a cool dark cellar. They lasted for months.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Sure. The U.S. Department of Agriculture.

There are regulations that growers must meet before they can apply the
"U.S.D.A. Organic" label. Other than that label, it's the wild west out there.

<https://www.thebalancesmb.com/when-is-organic-really-organic-2538312>

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

HEALTHFUL!!! Only the living can be healthy! All those CEOs for food
producing companies who approve their ads need to do 2nd grade over...
today's teachers never graduated from elementary school.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:28:56 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I'm curious, do you wear a mask or think the covid is a hoax?

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:48:48 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Those who claim they eat healthy food are the imbeciles.
Food can either be healthful or unhealthful, the only time food can be
healthy is when it's still living... a living breathing chicken can be
healthy, once slaughtered for food it can only be healthful... a dead
chicken is in no way a healthy chicken. Even a carrot can be healthy,
while it's still growing in the ground, once harvested as food it can
only be healthful. So how many want to own the title of grade school
imbecile with yoose *healthy* food?

[songbird]

for some produce now the prices are close enough or
it may be the only choice at some stores. this is how
it should be. organic should be cheaper to produce
once you have it up and running and the supply chain
is in place and there is enough quantity.

i know this, that what we grow costs a lot less than
what we can buy. if price is your biggest factor then
see what you can easily grow for yourself and do that.
it's well worth it and doesn't have to take up a huge
amount of space or time.

strawberries being the most notorious and horrible
example in terms of both *cides and flavor it makes
a lot of sense to grow your own if you can. it's so
much better results and you can avoid all the *cides
used.

oh, but it does take some effort, so some of you
people may have to get some exercise for a change...


songbird

[songbird]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...
> Also found this. Good to know since I often have some late in the evening
> Is it OK to eat grapes at night?
> Finally, the last food that you'll want to consider having before bed to
> help promote a restful night's sleep is grapes. Grapes are the only
> fruit found to contain the sleep-regulating hormone melatonin, so by
> adding them regularly to your diet, you can help boost the natural
> sleep-wake cycle in the body.

jeebus, i'm glad i don't have trouble falling asleep any
more. i went through a spell where it was taking me about
an hour and a half to fall asleep, then i learned Tai Chi
and also relaxation exercises. that took care of that
problem.

now, i'm busy and getting enough exercise during the day
and also once in a while i get a nap in and in any case when
i get tired, i roll over and fall asleep pretty quickly.
rare that i have trouble falling asleep these days.

i highly recommend gardening. :)


songbird

[songbird]

BS. tell that to the bees and other animals
affected aside from the people who've suffered
after being exposed to the various *cides used
in agriculture.


songbird

[songbird]

KenK wrote:

> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>

> Something else to watch out for.

always a good idea to inspect and rinse off some things
bought at the store before eating.

i don't rinse them off before storing them in the fridge
as for some fruits it just makes them mushy and icky.

this season might be pretty difficult for almost all
fresh fruit and vegetable growers (the virus going
around).

i sure noticed this year that the blueberries were real
horrible quality as compared to previous years.

it may also be the case that WM just buys the cheapest
stuff they can get from anyplace and they don't particularly
care how clean it is.

sometimes the celery hearts are just covered in dirt like
the people who picked them threw them on the ground instead
of in crates.


songbird

[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...

> So in the US, producers can call their produce "organic" when it's
> not. All y'all could learn so much from Europeans and Australians.

there's a large number of people in this country who
like to just be paranoid and contrary even if for the
most part people are just trying to get along and run
a business.

if you see or suspect that food is not organic and it
has been labelled as such, please notify the proper
regulating body (if it hasn't been gutted yet by the
current idiotic administration).

what i grow i do not sell or call organic since the
government took that word and ruined it. i use natural
methods as much as possible without insecticies.
herbicides i don't apply to any vegetable gardens but
they have been used here once in a great while.

unfortunately i live in the middle of farm fields and
so cannot keep sprays from drifting onto the property.

one thing i certainly would wish for is more land to
provide more of a buffer zone around us. it's no fun
to be out working in the gardens and then have one of
the surrounding fields get sprayed. normally i can
see or hear them doing it and can come inside before
the drift gets to me.


songbird

[Sheldon Martin]

Anyone can have 100% organic produce, I do, I grow my own, I use no
chemicals. I never buy organic at market, they all LIE! I can tell
yoose that if the produce you buy has no insect damage it is NOT
organic. I don't care if some of my produce has worm holes or larve
living in peppers I just don't eat those parts... if those tiny
critters are alive it organic. If birds and bunnies are nibbling in
my garden then that's proof of organic... somehow critters know toxic.
When I look at the produce at the organic at market and it's the most
gorgeous pristine then I know with absolute certainty that they are
lying. I've been growing all sorts of produce all my life and I've
never used any insecticides... woim holes in an apple never bothered
me... woim holes tell me it's the ripest safest to eat.
I've grown my own grapes. Due to grape's high sugar content they are
a magnet for insects and other critters, just inspect and wash
carefully, grapes are a magnet for spiders. Most vineyards use potent
chemicals to keep the birds from eating their crop so when yoose buy
that pricey wine THINK! Did yoose know that the best wine is free...
grapes ferment naturally, that whitish blush on grapes is yeast.
Whenever yoose buy wine keep in mind that you are paying for the
harvesting, stomping, bottle, label, and shipping, the fermintation
costs nothing.


















henever yoose buy wi

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 2:04:30 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:45:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
> >news:asfqmfhjk0t7pohjd...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 17:17:50 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> >> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 7:06:56 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So in the US, producers can call their produce "organic" when it's
> >>>> not. All y'all could learn so much from Europeans and Australians.
> >>>>
> >>>No, but organic is no more healthy than the regularly available fruits
> >>>and vegetables.
> >>
> >> That depends how much herbicides and pesticides remain in or on the
> >> produce. Bananas and strawberries come to mind.
> >>
> >> But is it true that anybody can say their produce is organic in the
> >> US, whether it's true or not? Is there no regulatory body or anything?
> >
> >Not true.
> Anyone can have 100% organic produce, I do, I grow my own, I use no
> chemicals. I never buy organic at market, they all LIE! I can tell
> yoose that if the produce you buy has no insect damage it is NOT
> organic. I don't care if some of my produce has worm holes or larve
> living in peppers I just don't eat those parts... if those tiny
> critters are alive it organic. If birds and bunnies are nibbling in
> my garden then that's proof of organic... somehow critters know toxic.

Bah. Hummingbirds will eat nectar made with artificial sweetener. Animals
don't know any more about toxic than people do.

Cindy Hamilton

[%]

that's how they starve to death

[Bryan Simmons]

Really evil villains put that in their hummingbird feeders, and watch the
hummingbirds drink out their window while they pull the wings off of flies,
and they laugh in ways that are best described as *dastardly*, and once they
run out of flies, they futz around with the ends of their handlebar moustaches.

That's what I think, and I'm standing by it.

--Bryan

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

No, it's not stupid. You've got the internet at your fingertips, look it up,
if you think you can manage that simple tastk.

[Bruce]

You're reverting back to child mode and name calling. It's happening
more and more often. Soon you'll start to drool.

[Hank Rogers]

<*SNIFF*>

[marik...@gmail.com]

it is so not a hoax and i wear the mask every where I go

I haven't met anyone yet who says it is a hoax even tho I see such people on tv

people are being so careful

we needed to use a cpa recently

The cpa never returned our calls even though everything could have been done contact free

We think he is in his sixties and due to covid decided to hang it up

So we hired a law firm
but cpa would have been cheaper

We were all lined up with the cpa and he just stopped answering calls

He has done our taxes for last ten years and we used him because he is a few blocks from the house

I do not know what she will do next year

mk5000

God commands (people) to maintain justice, kindness, and proper relations with their relatives. He forbids them to commit indecency, sin, and rebellion.
Quran, 16:90

[Daniel]

KenK <inv...@invalid.com> writes:

> I bought some green grapes last Tuesday and discovered they had dust and
> dirt on them. So I am washing off each portion as I eat them. I never
> noticed this before. Is this a common, or at least not rare, problem? Have
> I poosibly been eating dirty grapes all my life? I don't eat them often,
> preferring a banana after lunch and apple sauce after supper.
>
> I bought them at Walmart if anyone is curious. Expensive!
>
> Something else to watch out for.

It's a habit started as a child. I just eat them straight off the vine,
dirt and all. I figure it can't hurt, despite my mom's repeated calls to
wash them first back in the day.

These days I will de-vine them, wash them in cold water, then soak them
in ice water for 20-30 minutes.

When guests come, they usually remark how cold the grapes
are. Delicious.

I also love them frozen during the summer.

--
Daniel

Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

[Taxed and Spent]

If you really want to impress your guests, peel the grapes before you
serve them.

[Gary]

I like them crushed and fermented. ;)

[Ophelia]

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ru4148$bcu$1...@dont-email.me...

==

LOL

[Taxed and Spent]

I wasn't joking.

[Ophelia]

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ru477j$3fe$1...@dont-email.me...

===

Okay:) You would seriously peel a big bunch of grapes?? Wow you have a
lot of patience:))

More to the point, why would you want to do it?

[Taxed and Spent]

peel one grape, taste it, and see.

[Master Bruce]

And give each one a quick pre-chew.

[Master Bruce]

Careful, you don't want any alcohol developing.

[Master Bruce]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 08:56:16 -0800, Taxed and Spent
<nospam...@nonospam.com> wrote:

>On 1/18/2021 8:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ru477j$3fe$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 1/18/2021 6:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ru4148$bcu$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>

>>> If you really want to impress your guests, peel the grapes before you
>>> serve them.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>> I wasn't joking.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Okay:) You would seriously peel a big bunch of grapes?? Wow you have a
>> lot of patience:))
>>
>> More to the point, why would you want to do it?
>
>peel one grape, taste it, and see.

Some people -mainly old ones- peel tomatoes or cut the crust from
their bread.

[Ophelia]

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ru4ejh$d1c$1...@dont-email.me...

===

Okay, I will try to remember:))

[Taxed and Spent]

Yes, by all means avoid alcohol developing during the fermentation. DUH.

[Master Bruce]

On the other hand, it is FREE alcohol and that's almost as good as
FREE Internet!

[Gary]

Free Internet is good thing. Do you disagree?

[Cindy Hamilton]

You get what you pay for. I suppose free Internet is better than no Internet.

Cindy Hamilton