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French fries with ... not ketchup!

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George M. Middius

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May 29, 2012, 8:46:40 PM5/29/12
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Never liked ketchup on fries. Today I served them with aioli. It was a
great combo. Actually oven fries -- thick sliced potatoes drizzled
with oil and salt. Next time I make aioli, I'm going to use vinegar
instead of lemon juice.


A Moose in Love

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May 29, 2012, 8:58:08 PM5/29/12
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I've never had fries with aioli. I like them with salt, and malt
vinegar, and apple cider vinegar.

Dave Smith

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May 29, 2012, 9:01:04 PM5/29/12
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Around here there are usually eaten with vinegar, preferably malt vinegar.


James Silverton

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May 29, 2012, 10:12:23 PM5/29/12
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I grew up in Britain using malt vinegar on fries but I like ketchup!

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Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

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Jean B.

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May 29, 2012, 10:47:57 PM5/29/12
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My daughter took to sprinkling fries with malt vinegar and then
using catsup. That was tasty. (We haven't had fries for a long
time.)

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Jean B.

Jean B.

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May 29, 2012, 10:48:38 PM5/29/12
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:12:23 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> On 5/29/2012 9:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 29/05/2012 8:46 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Never liked ketchup on fries. Today I served them with aioli. It was a
>>>> great combo. Actually oven fries -- thick sliced potatoes drizzled
>>>> with oil and salt. Next time I make aioli, I'm going to use vinegar
>>>> instead of lemon juice.
>>> Around here there are usually eaten with vinegar, preferably malt vinegar.
>> I grew up in Britain using malt vinegar on fries but I like ketchup!
>
> Malt vinegar just makes fries soggy. And the vinegar evaporates
> quickly on hot fries meaning you have to keep adding more and more.
> And making them even soggier.
>
> The solution: I mix 4 parts ketchup 1 part malt vinegar and dip my
> fries in that.
>
> -sw

I was going to suggest that after I read your preamble.

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Jean B.

Bryan

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May 30, 2012, 1:18:38 AM5/30/12
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On May 29, 7:46 pm, George M. Middius <glanb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Next time I make aioli, I'm going to use vinegar
> instead of lemon juice.

I'd only do that if I were out of lemons and out of limes.

--Bryan

ViLco

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May 30, 2012, 3:37:19 AM5/30/12
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For fries I currently make up (cooking is a different thing) a sauce by
mixing 50% maionnaise with 50% unsweetened yoghourt and adding a variable
amount of minced garlic and herbs: parsley or thyme or basil or oregano, I
seldom use More than one. Sometimes I add minced cucumber and I get a
tzatziky-like sauce.



ViLco

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May 30, 2012, 3:38:53 AM5/30/12
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Dave Smith wrote:

> Around here there are usually eaten with vinegar, preferably malt
> vinegar.

I've never seen soemone eating fries with vinegar. And I've never seen malt
vinegar. My father could like that, he's a vinegar fan, but I doubt wine
vinegar would match well



Julie Bove

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May 30, 2012, 3:56:12 AM5/30/12
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"ViLco" <vill...@tin.it> wrote in message
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Vinegar is not that common here but I guess being close enough to Canada it
is served in some places. When I was a kid there was a fish and chips place
that had malt vinegar on the table. And you can get chips (as in the
mandolined potatoes, fried) with vinegar.

I never ate ketchup as a child. Never liked it at all. I do like it on
fries now and also in meatloaf but that's about it.


ViLco

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May 30, 2012, 4:42:32 AM5/30/12
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Julie Bove wrote:

>> seen malt vinegar. My father could like that, he's a vinegar fan,
>> but I doubt wine vinegar would match well

> Vinegar is not that common here but I guess being close enough to
> Canada it is served in some places. When I was a kid there was a
> fish and chips place that had malt vinegar on the table. And you can
> get chips (as in the mandolined potatoes, fried) with vinegar.

How does malt vinegar compares against wine vinegar: weaker? Stronger? I
have no idea.

> I never ate ketchup as a child. Never liked it at all. I do like it
> on fries now and also in meatloaf but that's about it.

I too use it just for fries and very few other things, sometimes for
sausages



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Hell Toupee

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May 30, 2012, 8:50:26 AM5/30/12
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On 5/29/2012 9:20 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:12:23 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> On 5/29/2012 9:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 29/05/2012 8:46 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Never liked ketchup on fries. Today I served them with aioli. It was a
>>>> great combo. Actually oven fries -- thick sliced potatoes drizzled
>>>> with oil and salt. Next time I make aioli, I'm going to use vinegar
>>>> instead of lemon juice.
>>>
>>> Around here there are usually eaten with vinegar, preferably malt vinegar.
>>
>> I grew up in Britain using malt vinegar on fries but I like ketchup!
>
> Malt vinegar just makes fries soggy. And the vinegar evaporates
> quickly on hot fries meaning you have to keep adding more and more.
> And making them even soggier.
>
> The solution: I mix 4 parts ketchup 1 part malt vinegar and dip my
> fries in that.

I use lime juice instead of vinegar. Lime and tomato in combination
just can't be beat, imo.
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Doug Freyburger

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May 30, 2012, 12:50:39 PM5/30/12
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When I was a kid we had our fries with cider vinegar.

I rather like using Heinz 57 sauce on fries.

Paul M. Cook

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May 30, 2012, 1:14:15 PM5/30/12
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"George M. Middius" <glan...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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When I could eat fries I ate them Belgian style with mayo.

Paul


gregz

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May 30, 2012, 2:04:12 PM5/30/12
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Sour cream and mustard. Typically I usually use some yellow mustard on my
fries.

Greg

Feranija

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May 30, 2012, 3:56:20 PM5/30/12
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On 29/05/12 17:46, George M. Middius wrote:
>
>
> Never liked ketchup on fries.


Me neither. French fries I like only with Dutch mayonnaise, but not
with a white stuff from supermarkets with the same name mayonnaise.
Usually make my own with a stick-blender to make a tasty, a real
yellow mayonnaise.

I tasted them with sour sauces, poutine, gravies etc, but when it
comes to french fries - I like them with dutch mayo only.


> Actually oven fries -- thick sliced potatoes
>

Oven baked potatoes to me is an entirely different beast. Once they
were flavored with juices and a fat which were dripping from a piece
of meat above on the spit, I can't stand any gravy on the potatoes; I
eat them as they are, beside other food on a plate, nothing on them,
no dips, no sauces for the potatoes.


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Dave Smith

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May 30, 2012, 4:08:08 PM5/30/12
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On 30/05/2012 3:56 PM, Feranija wrote:

> Oven baked potatoes to me is an entirely different beast. Once they were
> flavored with juices and a fat which were dripping from a piece of meat
> above on the spit, I can't stand any gravy on the potatoes; I eat them
> as they are, beside other food on a plate, nothing on them, no dips, no
> sauces for the potatoes.
>
>



Gravy on potatoes is very popular here.... baked, mashed, roasted, even
French fries. French fries with gravy seemed to have waned a bit in
popularity with the rise of American franchise fast food joints, but
most greasy spoons still offer gravy with fries.

Gary

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May 30, 2012, 5:24:20 PM5/30/12
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If the fries are good, I like salt only on them.

Gary

gtr

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May 30, 2012, 5:26:36 PM5/30/12
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I like to mix some Patak chili pickle, or sometimes their garlic
pickle, into a little mayonaise for use with fries.

I've also found some kind of Bulgarian tomato-based condiment that
tastes a little like curry, and use that two on occasion.

I also flavor regular ketchup with a sri racha hot sauce.

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big fish

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May 31, 2012, 7:56:44 AM5/31/12
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I totally dislike ketchup on anything. I like my fries with just a dash of
salt. If I am in a dipping mood, I use yellow mustard or a dash of wasabi
sauce.


gtr

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May 31, 2012, 10:18:14 AM5/31/12
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On 2012-05-30 21:26:36 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2012-05-30 00:46:40 +0000, George M. Middius said:
>
>> Never liked ketchup on fries. Today I served them with aioli. It was a
>> great combo. Actually oven fries -- thick sliced potatoes drizzled
>> with oil and salt. Next time I make aioli, I'm going to use vinegar
>> instead of lemon juice.
>
> I like to mix some Patak chili pickle, or sometimes their garlic
> pickle, into a little mayonaise for use with fries.

In discussion with my wife she said she used yogurt for this instead of
mayonnaise.

Cheryl

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Jun 2, 2012, 4:38:32 PM6/2/12
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Fries with vinegar and lots of salt is common here (East coast USA),
called Boardwalk Fries. I'm not sure if they originated that way on in
Ocean City MD but they sure sell a lot of them there. There's even a
flavored potato chip with salt and vinegar.

James Silverton

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Jun 2, 2012, 6:14:27 PM6/2/12
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Very much the British way I believe and is as I was brought up but I
like Ketchup!

gregz

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Jun 2, 2012, 11:39:18 PM6/2/12
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I seem to recall eating fries at OC, but any place that sort of specializes
in fries around Pittsburgh, will have vinegar available. The only thing I
don't like on my fries, is typical sweet BBQ sauce. Another vinegar product
great on fries is Scotts BBQ sauce from NC. It's just vinegar with hot
pepper spices. I tend to stay away from cheese and gravy, not that I don't
like it. Give me ketchup, mustard, horsey sauce, and I love cocktail sauce,
or Mayo and relish, or sour cream and mustard.

Greg

Gary

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Jun 3, 2012, 6:33:09 AM6/3/12
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Cheryl wrote:
>
> Fries with vinegar and lots of salt is common here (East coast USA),
> called Boardwalk Fries. I'm not sure if they originated that way on in
> Ocean City MD but they sure sell a lot of them there.

I love Boardwalk Fries. They always sell them at beach festivals and just
recently they opened their own restaurant at a nearby shopping center.

So they use vinegar? I've never noticed that taste, just the salt.

Gary

Jim Elbrecht

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Jun 3, 2012, 7:26:47 AM6/3/12
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I never heard of Boardwalk fries [my Boardwalking has been confined to
Atlantic city in the 50's, Rockaway in the 60's, and Old Orchard Beach
on rare occasions after that] so I went a-Googling. Does this
recipe sound like it would make what you're calling Boardwalk fries?
http://leitesculinaria.com/75987/recipes-boardwalk-fries.html

I like a little Old Bay-- and this sounds like a nice crispy fry.

I might follow the technique with some okinowan sweet potatoes that
need using up.

Jim

Gary

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Jun 3, 2012, 8:01:43 AM6/3/12
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Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
> I never heard of Boardwalk fries [my Boardwalking has been confined to
> Atlantic city in the 50's, Rockaway in the 60's, and Old Orchard Beach
> on rare occasions after that] so I went a-Googling. Does this
> recipe sound like it would make what you're calling Boardwalk fries?
> http://leitesculinaria.com/75987/recipes-boardwalk-fries.html

Hi Jim,

This sounds more like a copycat attempt of the authentic Boardwalk fries.
I googled for ingredients this morning and only got copycat recipes.
It's probably good though.

As I mentioned earlier, I've never tasted vinegar on them. And I've never
tasted OLD BAY seasoning on them either. If they use either, it's such a
tiny amount that you don't notice either taste.

Russet potatoes(?) sliced (and skins on), deep fried in peanut oil, then
salted.
That said, they are so darn good, perhaps they really are adding those 2
ingredients in tiny amounts that I can't taste specifically. The company
website didn't give out the ingredient list.

Gary

Bob Terwilliger

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Jun 12, 2012, 1:54:13 PM6/12/12
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Dave Smith wrote:

> Around here there are usually eaten with vinegar, preferably malt vinegar.

There was a fairly extensive thread about this topic back in 2010. In
that thread I mentioned liking the following condiments on fries:

Ketchup, a�oli, ranch dressing, Thousand Island dressing, Bufalo
chipotle sauce, homemade barbecue sauce, curry ketchup, Parmesan-garlic
sauce, tonnato sauce, b�arnaise sauce, romesco sauce, bigarade sauce
(awesome, but not very well-known), r�moulade, calypso sauce,
chimichurri sauce, or harissa sauce.

Some people like to dip their fries into chocolate milkshakes, but I
can't agree with that.

Bob
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