Simple fare

[Leonard Blaisdell]

While slowly reducing freezer content, I found enough fairly current meat
to make this.
It ain't impressive,

<https://postimg.cc/jDgpFT5g>

but it's food related.

leo

[Ed P]

Nice dollop of butter too!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Meatloaf?

[dsi1]

You had a gourmet dinner compared to what I ate.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jtrj3Rew1X5Jdvr69

[Bruce]

On 4 Aug 2023 03:15:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Man, you're so going to enjoy the nursing home!

[Bruce]

I like how he makes the bits of corpse look extra good with fake
blood. Nice touch!

[Bruce]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

I'd have a hard time chosing between the two. Why is yours served in
plebby single use plastic?

[dsi1]

Single use plastic containers are illegal in Hawaii for food vendors.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

wrote:

>On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 6:59:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> >> While slowly reducing freezer content, I found enough fairly current meat
>> >> to make this.
>> >> It ain't impressive,
>> >>
>> >> <https://postimg.cc/jDgpFT5g>
>> >>
>> >> but it's food related.
>> >>
>> >> leo
>> >
>> >You had a gourmet dinner compared to what I ate.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jtrj3Rew1X5Jdvr69
>> I'd have a hard time chosing between the two. Why is yours served in
>> plebby single use plastic?
>
>Single use plastic containers are illegal in Hawaii for food vendors.
>

But isn't that what that is?

[Ed P]

Are you sure it is fake?

[Dave Smith]

Hmm... needs more carbs.

Last night we went to a Greek restaurant for dinner. It is in a nearby
city and we had been planning on checking it out for some time and had
been hearing good things about it. My buddy stopped by just as we were
getting ready to go. His wife was out of town so we invited him along.
He and I had calamari dinners and my wife had their roast lamb. We were
able to sit out on the deck and enjoy the view. It is located right next
to the Welland Canal so we were able to watch the boats going by and
cyclists and walkers on the trail. It was a very pleasant evening and
the food was great.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-08-04, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-08-04 12:48 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> While slowly reducing freezer content, I found enough fairly current meat
>>> to make this.
>>> It ain't impressive,
>>>
>>> <https://postimg.cc/jDgpFT5g>
>>>
>>> but it's food related.
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>> You had a gourmet dinner compared to what I ate.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jtrj3Rew1X5Jdvr69
>
>
> Hmm... needs more carbs.

There's always dessert.

> Last night we went to a Greek restaurant for dinner. It is in a nearby
> city and we had been planning on checking it out for some time and had
> been hearing good things about it. My buddy stopped by just as we were
> getting ready to go. His wife was out of town so we invited him along.
> He and I had calamari dinners and my wife had their roast lamb. We were
> able to sit out on the deck and enjoy the view. It is located right next
> to the Welland Canal so we were able to watch the boats going by and
> cyclists and walkers on the trail. It was a very pleasant evening and
> the food was great.

Nice. We had German food for lunch yesterday. I had
a salad with creamy garlic dressing, German potato salad,
and veal bratwurst (apparently St. Galler bratwurst or
something similar):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Galler_Bratwurst

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

Styrofoam. As far as I'm concerned, "single use" plastic would be
better than Styrofoam. The rare time I get take out, I wash and reuse
the plastic container with a snap-on lid. Call it "Tupperware". Great
for freezing portions of chili, soup, or whatever.

[dsi1]

It's a plant-based compostable container - as are the utensils. Well, that's what the say, anyway. We also get charged 15 cents for paper take-home bags in supermarkets. Plastic bags are no longer an option. Plastic water bottles will probably be banned. Things are getting weird around here but we do what we gots to do.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/01/plastic-water-bottles-may-be-next-ban-in-hawaiis-war-against-pollution/

[Bruce]

Good point.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

wrote:

>On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:46:34 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Single use plastic containers are illegal in Hawaii for food vendors.
>> >
>> But isn't that what that is?
>
>It's a plant-based compostable container - as are the utensils.

That's great, seriously. I've always wondered about the outer cabbage
leaves that one always discards.

>Well, that's what the say, anyway. We also get charged 15 cents for
>paper take-home bags in supermarkets. Plastic bags are no longer an
>option. Plastic water bottles will probably be banned. Things are
>getting weird around here but we do what we gots to do.
>
>https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/01/plastic-water-bottles-may-be-next-ban-in-hawaiis-war-against-pollution/

These things are going on here too. Maybe a bit annoying until you're
used to it, but good of course.

[jmcquown]

On 8/3/2023 11:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

Looks good, Leo! Hold the ketchup on my slice of meatloaf, please. ;)

(BTW, Nancy Young said thanks for thinking of her.)

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:48:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> You had a gourmet dinner compared to what I ate.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jtrj3Rew1X5Jdvr69
>

Three starches!!!

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-08-04 5:11 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/3/2023 11:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> While slowly reducing freezer content, I found enough fairly current meat
>> to make this.
>> It ain't impressive,
>>
>> <https://postimg.cc/jDgpFT5g>
>>
>> but it's food related.
>>
>> leo
>
> Looks good, Leo!  Hold the ketchup on my slice of meatloaf, please. ;)

I am torn. Meat loaf is one of the few things that I have ketchup with,
but I would have a lot less than that.

[dsi1]

I didn't cook that and it was a free meal. Nobody there was complaining about it.

[jmcquown]

I've never been a fan of ketchup on anything. <shrug>

Jill

[jmcquown]

Yet another photo of a take-out meal. Nearly anything is "gourmet"
compared to something served in a styrofoam container.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Meatloaf, macaroni and cheese and egg sandwiches.

[Bruce]

I want to taste cheese and eggs, not a red supermarket sauce.

[GM]

Lol...

Be careful, Onkel Tojo - san might take out his Samurai sword and go CHOP CHOP! to yer uppity white woman head...

🐸

--
GM

[cshenk]

Me to, but I could use creamy horseradish/mayo there vice ketchup!!

For us, I'd take the smaller meatloaf slice and Don the bigger, and
more mashed potatoes. Might make up some brown peppered gravy and use
that instead of the horseradish/mayo which would work on the potatoes
too.

[cshenk]

Same here. Occasionally I want it on the side with my fries but that's
about it.

[cshenk]

Now now, reminds me of occasional Navy related meals where we did
charity and the charity fed us workers something. They didn't look
much better.

[Bruce]

I was shocked as a kid when I ordered fries in France and was given a
choice of mustard or ketchup. No mayo! They're insane!

[dsi1]

Indeed, it was a school lunch. The news at the orientation was that the school breakfast and lunch was going to be free. Excellent!

[Bruce]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 12:15:13 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

It's never too early to start kids on crappy white bread!

[Hank Rogers]

cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2023 11:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> While slowly reducing freezer content, I found enough fairly
>>> current meat to make this.
>>> It ain't impressive,
>>>
>>> <https://postimg.cc/jDgpFT5g>
>>>
>>> but it's food related.
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>> Looks good, Leo! Hold the ketchup on my slice of meatloaf, please. ;)
>>
>> (BTW, Nancy Young said thanks for thinking of her.)
>>
>> Jill
>
> Me to, but I could use creamy horseradish/mayo there vice ketchup!!
>

Sometimes, I like a little djon mustard on meatloaf, especially
when using it for a sandwich. But yesterday, I put a little too
much on my leftover meal. At least it's easy to scrape off too
much.

[Hank Rogers]

Well, if yoose were 20 or 30 years older, you might have had
the good fortune to serve with Popeye.

His vittles were the finest on the planet (as long as yoose not
an officer). And he'd have given you fringe benefits too :)

[dsi1]

I beg your pardon, sir! That's a sweet Hawaiian roll. It's not bad but I don't eat stuff like that anymore. My granddaughter loves it!
The Hawaiian sweet roll comes to us from the Portuguese pao duce. If you find a recipe for Hawaiian rolls on the internet, make sure it doesn't use any pineapple juice. That's just ignorant. Better yet, just use a recipe for pao duce instead.

[jmcquown]

Doesn't make that pic look any better.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 13:12:46 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

Ok, I looked it up. It's a sweet bread. White flour, sugar, butter,
eggs.

[cshenk]

I hope the actual ones are better!

[dsi1]

I would add milk, potato, and lemon zest. I used to interview old Portuguese ladies to learn about how they made their pao duce. I liked to add some yellow food coloring to make it extra punchy.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/T49xvAbH2A3Phx897

[dsi1]

Hopefully they are, my guess is that the cafeteria staff will do the best with what they got. It's a tough job,

[Bruce]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 14:55:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

I'd think the added dairy would already make it yellowish. I remember
sugar bread from way back. It was popular with children. I guess every
culture has their sweet bread.

[dsi1]

Blame it on the Portuguese. Those guys also gave Hawaii its favorite breakfast sausage: Portuguese sausage. The old school Portuguese ladies would add some potato to the batter but that seems to have fallen out of favor. This guy is using way too much yellow food coloring. What the hell?

https://morethanweeat.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/portuguese-sweet-bread/

[bob]

..or too late!

[Bruce]

That neither. A crappy-bread eater is a joy for a lifetime. To the
food industry.

[Michael Trew]

On 8/5/2023 3:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2023 18:51:18 +0000, "cshenk"
> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> I've never been a fan of ketchup on anything.<shrug>
>>

>> Same here. Occasionally I want it on the side with my fries but that's
>> about it.
>
> I was shocked as a kid when I ordered fries in France and was given a
> choice of mustard or ketchup. No mayo! They're insane!

Mayonnaise seems kinda gross on fries, but to each their own. I keep
small (in modern terms) glass bottle of Heinz catsup in the fridge, and
it lasts me for months before I use it up.

[Michael Trew]

School lunches are really going down hill. Michelle Obama's lunches
were gross. I had first-hand experience. Some of it was microwave
stuff. Lunch ladies don't really even cook anymore.

[Dave Smith]

Mayo is commonly served with fries around here because we have a lot of
Dutch people living here. It is an automatic with sweet potato fries,
and usually flavoured withe curry, chipotle or something similar.
When I was in France recently I had fries a couple times and they came
with mayo or mayo and ketchup.

[Bruce]

France in the 70s is another kettle of fish.

[dsi1]

Da Hawaiians have been putting mayo on fries because it gives the furikake something to hold on to.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmuFMsF7mPfQuzN38

[Bruce]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

I vote in favour.

[dsi1]

School lunches have always been a disappointment. It's probably where rfc learned to disrespect food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XGG1NouAzg

[Cindy Hamilton]

Michelle Obama didn't tell your lunch ladies to microwave your food.
Your local school district did that to save money.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

I'm surprised da Hiwayans don't shave their furikake.

[Bruce]

Michael's from a part of the US where people aren't very objective
about anybody called Obama.

[GM]

The Tokyo control operator of the Japan Broadcasting Corporation noticed that the Hiroshima station had gone off the air. He tried to re-establish his program by using another telephone line, but it too had failed...

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Tokyo's first indication that the city had been destroyed by a new type of bomb came from President Truman's announcement of the strike, sixteen hours later...

[GM]

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 2:25:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

The exact number of people killed by the blast, firestorm, and radiation effects of the bombing are unknown...

Estimates have ranged from 66,000 people killed and 69,000 injured, upwards to 140,000 dead (by December 1945) in later estimations...

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[Michael Trew]

Yes, but Michelle Obama had a child lunch program that was supposed to
be healthier, but in reality, the government mandates made the food
awful. The only thing I approved of was the sweet potato fries. We
were given them often enough that I tired of them, but since it's been
at least a decade, I think I'll have to make those soon.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-08-04, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> Meatloaf?


I must have hit the rack before you posted. Yes. :)

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-08-06, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> Mayonnaise seems kinda gross on fries, but to each their own. I keep
> small (in modern terms) glass bottle of Heinz catsup in the fridge, and
> it lasts me for months before I use it up.

Fries need to be dipped in a thick chocolate shake. Why haven't I done
that in sixty years?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-08-07, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 8/6/2023 5:13 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-08-06, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 8/5/2023 5:57 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 11:08:38 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope the actual ones are better!
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully they are, my guess is that the cafeteria staff will do the
>>>> best with what they got. It's a tough job,
>>>
>>> School lunches are really going down hill. Michelle Obama's lunches
>>> were gross. I had first-hand experience. Some of it was microwave
>>> stuff. Lunch ladies don't really even cook anymore.
>>
>> Michelle Obama didn't tell your lunch ladies to microwave your food.
>> Your local school district did that to save money.
>
> Yes, but Michelle Obama had a child lunch program that was supposed to
> be healthier, but in reality, the government mandates made the food
> awful.

No, insufficient budgets make the food awful. It's possible to
satisfy the nutritional requirements of the mandates, but not
for the paltry amount of the average American school lunch budget,
which is set locally.

France, as you might suppose, is very interested in the quality
of school lunches. The U.S. just wants to get the job done
as cheaply as possible.

https://karenlebillon.com/french-school-lunch-menus/

Of course, the French have a better idea how to raise kids who
aren't picky eaters.

> The only thing I approved of was the sweet potato fries. We
> were given them often enough that I tired of them, but since it's been
> at least a decade, I think I'll have to make those soon.

Try them with a little powdered chipotle pepper sprinkled on them.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
...

> Fries need to be dipped in a thick chocolate shake. Why haven't I done
> that in sixty years?

well buttered home made toast is also excellent with
hot chocolate in the winter.


songbird (just sayin'...

[cshenk]

That's sad. Michelle didn't know anything about nutrition or good food.

[jmcquown]

This is a free school lunch? Never saw anything like that in a school
cafeteria.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:29:32 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Maybe things have changed in half a century?

[dsi1]

For a lot of kids, it's the only meal they'll get. Free breakfasts and lunch is a good thing. I'm not going to comment on what's being served. School lunches have always been below average but I can't say that I'd be able to do better with a meager budget. Hawaii needs a new DOE dietitian armed with a new budget to do what needs to get done. It'll probably be expensive - so what?

[songbird]

dsi1 wrote:
...

> For a lot of kids, it's the only meal they'll get. Free breakfasts and lunch is a good thing. I'm not going to comment on what's being served. School lunches have always been below average but I can't say that I'd be able to do better with a meager budget. Hawaii needs a new DOE dietitian armed with a new budget to do what needs to get done. It'll probably be expensive - so what?

sometime check out farm to school programs.


songbird

[Hank Rogers]

Why don't yoose take the job, Uncle Tojo?

All yoose have to do is whip up a huge batch of poi every day,
and lay in a good stock of pineapples and sugar.

[dsi1]

I'll check it out. Thanks.