OT But joyful!

[graham]

This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:08:31 -0600, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4

Lovely! But oh my knees are aching just watching :)

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/29/2019 9:08 AM, graham wrote:
> This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4

Not typical of our high schools.
Following that was an excellent youth orchestra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O192eo9zbT4

Nice to see good music lives on.

[GM]

graham wrote:

> This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4

Wot is this "depressing news" you speak of, graham...???

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[Ophelia]

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:TNpnE.342016$KB3.2...@fx02.iad...

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Oh that is beautiful!!!! Thanks for posting it.

Oh to be so young and agile again:)))

[notbob]

On 3/29/2019 8:22 AM, GM wrote:

> Wot is this "depressing news" you speak of, graham...???

If you live in the USofA, most all news is depressing!

Thanks fer posting, graham. I usta play bass viola (dbl bass) in our
middle school orchestra. ;)

nb

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:08:31 -0600, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4

thank you. A wonderful start to the day

[notbob]

On 3/29/2019 9:51 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> thank you. A wonderful start to the day

Agree!

Got me off my 80's R&R binge. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbfa86bTD34

nb

[Nancy2]

It seems to be some choreographer's idea of Irish step dancing, only the steps are much
wider/bigger and take up a lot more space. It was entertaining in a way, but I prefer regular
standard ballet moves or genuine Irish step dancing, myself.

N.

[Thomas]

My friend used to teach Irish step dance. Her name is Nancy.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I don't know how he came up with the moves but it seem some is based in
Slovak folk dancing. A bit exaggerated though.

[graham]

But see one Irish clog dance and you've seen them all:-)

[Bruce]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 20:16:05 GMT, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 14:17 29 Mar 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/29/2019 9:08 AM, graham wrote:
>>>
>>> This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4
>>
>> Not typical of our high schools.
>

>Sad but true.
>
>Too many schoolkids aim for a cushy life and nothing more.

Old people have always been talking about young people this way.

[graham]

Chinese actions against Canada, Brexit and Trumpgit!

[dsi1]

I saw the movie "Skyscraper" last night. It starred Duane "The Rock" Johnson. It was made with Chinese money and is pretty much the future of American blockbuster movies. They have to appeal to Chinese audiences. The comedies will have to be funny to Chinese audiences. If you're familiar with Chinese movies, you know that they don't make a whole lot of sense. That's the future of American entertainment. We'll have to kowtow to the Chinese because they're the ones with the big money for the big movies that Americans love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9QePUT-Yt8

[lucreti...@fl.it]

Don't forget the China actions all come as a result of Trump asking us
to arrest Meng Wanzhou - we do it - then he doesn't follow through. I
think we should let her go and to hell with Trump. Two timing SOB

[Ed Pawlowski]

Canadians?
https://imgur.com/gallery/uzYXLSw

[jmcquown]

Of course you *never* talk about politics. ;)

I hate Trump, don't get me wrong. But to me, global news such as
another potential nuclear arms race in the Middle East is much more
disturbing. The entire area has been volatile for centuries. Saudi
Arabia says it will build nuclear arms if Iran does. (Not long ago it
was India and Pakistan). Good lord, didn't anyone learn anything from
the Cold War?

How many more centuries do you need to finally say, "okay, enough is
enough. Let's stop finding better ways to kill each other." Yikes.

Jill

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 19:40:20 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/29/2019 7:03 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:31:39 -0600, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-03-29 8:22 a.m., GM wrote:
>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This might help take your mind off the depressing news:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-zbbvKG4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wot is this "depressing news" you speak of, graham...???
>>>>
>>> Chinese actions against Canada, Brexit and Trumpgit!
>>
>> Don't forget the China actions all come as a result of Trump asking us
>> to arrest Meng Wanzhou - we do it - then he doesn't follow through. I
>> think we should let her go and to hell with Trump. Two timing SOB
>>
>Of course you *never* talk about politics. ;)

Excuse me! I never said that, YOU said in a thread a little while
ago.

>
>I hate Trump, don't get me wrong. But to me, global news such as
>another potential nuclear arms race in the Middle East is much more
>disturbing. The entire area has been volatile for centuries. Saudi
>Arabia says it will build nuclear arms if Iran does. (Not long ago it
>was India and Pakistan). Good lord, didn't anyone learn anything from
>the Cold War?
>
>How many more centuries do you need to finally say, "okay, enough is
>enough. Let's stop finding better ways to kill each other." Yikes.
>
>Jill

Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
there are left with the consequences :( Trump in his evil way is
supporting Israel because of his SIL I assume, meantime that gives the
Israelis the go-ahead to massacre Palestinians with their missiles,
right down to sending soldiers in to a class to arrest a 5, yes 5 year
old, terrorist!! I am disgusted the UN is doing nothing about the
slaughter of Gazains, one who was a close friend, amongst them.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 20:57:58 -0300, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

>Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
>in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
>there are left with the consequences :( Trump in his evil way is
>supporting Israel because of his SIL I assume, meantime that gives the
>Israelis the go-ahead to massacre Palestinians with their missiles,
>right down to sending soldiers in to a class to arrest a 5, yes 5 year
>old, terrorist!! I am disgusted the UN is doing nothing about the
>slaughter of Gazains, one who was a close friend, amongst them.

Israel retaliates. I'd retaliate too if my neighbour threw missiles at
us. And it's very dumb to provoke your enemy when they're ten times
stronger than you.

[GM]

"....ohboyohboyohboy..."

Don't you know, Lucretia, that one of Hamas' "tactics" is to embed their terrorist missile - lobbing nests amongst schools, hospitals, invalid homes, etc....thus when the Israelis retaliate in kind they squeal "VICTIM"...it is a SQUALID bid to arouse "sympathy"...unfortunately some simple folks fall for the "ruse"...

This "palestinian" tactic is akin to Nazi Germany claiming that the Poles "instigated" World War II by "invading" the Reich on 1 September 1939...or the East Germans claiming that the Berlin Wall was built to "repel" an "anti - fascist invasion" by the "revanchist" US/UK/FR troops garrisoned in West Berlin...

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[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 11:03:44 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

That's just been massive 'retaliation' for one missile that slightly
damaged a house in Israel.

[lucreti...@fl.it]

"....ohboyohboyohboy..." the Israelis have sure done a job on you!

[Dave Smith]

It's not as if Israel has not threatened massive retaliation for any
attacks against them. I looked at a number of reports and they each
give a different story. One said that Hammas said the missile was
launched accidentally because of a malfunction in an automated system
they claimed to have set up because they have intelligence that Israel
is planning to attack before the upcoming election.

Another source talked about the military imbalance and how Hamas cannot
really counter the Israelis in battle. All they can do is to harass
them. It has become a self perpetuating problem. A small group of
Palestinians set off bombs or fire rockets at Israel. Israel reacts
with an overwhelming responses. Palestinians are killed and buildings
are destroyed. Palestinians react with anger against Israel, side with
Hammas, more missiles get fired, Israel reacts with overwhelming force,
and the cycle continues.

[GM]

MASSIVE retaliation is the only tactic that at this point will work against the terrorists trying to destroy Israel, Lucretia...

Another thing you must realise is that Hamas cares NOT about any loss of human life on their side, thus embedding their terrorists nests in schools, hospitals, etc. so as to claim that Israeli retaliation is "killing innocent victims"...very "cynical" of them, eh...???

The Hamas SOP is taken *directly* from Joseph Goebbel's nazi propaganda handbook...

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[jmcquown]

My point is: I'd much rather people stop trying find better ways to
kill each other. Is that okay with you?

Jill

[lucreti...@fl.it]

You are well brain washed - put yourself in their position. Their
land was taken from them and 'given' to Israel in 1948. If someone
shoved you out of your home and donated it to a stranger, how much
would you like them?? Since 1948 Israel has nibbled away at what
Palestinians had until it has them caged in a small area. It is quite
clear they are practicing genocide and the world allows it so greedy
Israel keeps at it.

[GM]

notbob wrote:

> On 3/29/2019 8:22 AM, GM wrote:
>
> > Wot is this "depressing news" you speak of, graham...???
> If you live in the USofA, most all news is depressing!

Hmmm..it is...???

My "news" has been GREAT lately nb...the Mueller Report vindicated our President Trump...unemployment at near - record low levels...MSNBC's Rachel Maddow has had her smirking yap SHUT, and now Fox News is #1 again...LOTSA peeps I know are WORKING their way outta poverty by getting nice good - paying career jobs (ThANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!)...President Trump has recognized Israel's territorial rights to the Golan Heights...and the Dems are still IMPLODING like a party balloon that lost it's helium...

Remember, y'all..."Your attitude towards life is determined by how you FRAME things..."

:-D

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[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:

>
> lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> > Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
> > in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
> > there are left with the consequences :(

GWB? Learn your history. The damn Middle East countries have been
a pain in the ass ever since the history of mankind.

>
> My point is: I'd much rather people stop trying find better ways to
> kill each other. Is that okay with you?

In my opinion, I think the USA, China, and even Russia should all
chip in and arm to the hilt every middle east country then sit
back and let them kill each other off. Then we can roll in and
divy up all the land for ourselves. Every single one of them are
just a pain in the ass to the world in general.

Just kidding, naturally but there is a bit of truth in what I
say.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-29 7:57 p.m., lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
> in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
> there are left with the consequences :(

Really??? Did you erase all the history before that? The US and Britain
staged a coup in Iran that installed the Shah. His oppressive rule
helped to set the stage for the Islamic revolution. There was also the
establishment of Israel, and recognition of that country led to
attempted invasion by the neighbouring Arab countries. Western support
of Israeli has been a aggravating factor in the Middle East for 70 years.

Trump in his evil way is
> supporting Israel because of his SIL I assume,

The US has been a steadfast supporter of Israel since its birth.

> meantime that gives the
> Israelis the go-ahead to massacre Palestinians with their missiles,
> right down to sending soldiers in to a class to arrest a 5, yes 5 year
> old, terrorist!! I am disgusted the UN is doing nothing about the
> slaughter of Gazains, one who was a close friend, amongst them.

The UN has been equally ineffective in stopping the Palestinians from
attacking Israel at every opportunity. Israel has a virtual stranglehold
on Gaza because the Palestinians have been smuggling arms, ammunition
and and fighters to commit terrorist attacks. They have attacked soft
targets like restaurants and buses. More recently they resorted to
rocket attacks. The cowardly bastards of Hammas and other Islamist
groups hit at soft targets and then hide among the women and children
with the expectation that no one would dare to strike them and risk the
killing of innocent civilians. They are not averse to working out of an
then hiding in mosques and expecting that no one can dare to strike a
holy site.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-30 1:40 p.m., Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:

>> My point is: I'd much rather people stop trying find better ways to
>> kill each other. Is that okay with you?
>
> In my opinion, I think the USA, China, and even Russia should all
> chip in and arm to the hilt every middle east country then sit
> back and let them kill each other off. Then we can roll in and
> divy up all the land for ourselves. Every single one of them are
> just a pain in the ass to the world in general.

I thought that is what they were doing. One of the great ironies of the
Gulf War was the story about how Saddam had to be disarmed because he
had a vast supply of WMDs including gas and that they had used gas
against the Kurds. They certainly had no objection to Iraq using gas
against the Iranians. They even provided them with satellite
intelligence about Iranian troop positions to help them to target them.

One of the reasons that the conflict has been going on for so long is
that the US and western powers are backing one site while Russia and
Iran are backing other factions. It is a proxy war where they are
backing one side or another without getting totally sucked into the
fighting.

There is no reason to send your own troops in to fight if you can arm
someone else to do it. Look at how the situation turned out in
Afghanistan. The US was pissed that the Soviet Union had marched into
Afghanistan to prop up a communist regime. The US backed the
Mujahideen, "freedom fighters", who were basically a bunch of Islamists
under the control of various war lords. That was their way to fight the
expansion of communism and to get back at them for having armed the
insurgency in Vietnam. Once the Soviets pulled out the US stopped
funding them and they went back to their old games, and then the Taliban
moved in with the promise of law and order. That worked out really well.

[jmcquown]

On 3/30/2019 1:40 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>>> Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
>>> in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
>>> there are left with the consequences :(
>
> GWB? Learn your history. The damn Middle East countries have been
> a pain in the ass ever since the history of mankind.

Despite her apparent lack of interest in politics (laughing) she
certainly does tend to blame everything on fairly recent US history.

Actual history tells us the Middle East (boundary maps vary) has often
been warlike, nomadic and territorial since well before the United
States existed.

Historically, the UK/Great Britain has always been far more reaching and
territorial than the US.

Jill

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:06:57 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/30/2019 1:40 PM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>>>> Most of the trouble in the middle east was created when GWB interfered
>>>> in Iraq because vested oil interests wanted him to. Now the people
>>>> there are left with the consequences :(
>>
>> GWB? Learn your history. The damn Middle East countries have been
>> a pain in the ass ever since the history of mankind.
>
>Despite her apparent lack of interest in politics (laughing)

Not sure about your laughing, YOU were the one saying No Politics then
you open a political post and try to blame me!

she
>certainly does tend to blame everything on fairly recent US history.
>
>Actual history tells us the Middle East (boundary maps vary) has often
>been warlike, nomadic and territorial since well before the United
>States existed.

The difference was that was their own wars, of a tribal nature. Quite
unlike GWB moving in and saying 'now you will have a democracy'

>
>Historically, the UK/Great Britain has always been far more reaching and
>territorial than the US.
>
>Jill

But clearly in a better way - why else are they all dedicated to the
Commonwealth of Nations??

Look where the US went, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria et al.

[Janet]

In article <nI4oE.237526$W44.1...@fx26.iad>, j_mc...@comcast.net
says...

Newsflash; the British Empire is over.
We recognise we often got it hopelessly wrong.

It's high time the US did the same

Janet UK

[Dave Smith]

Really? The British Empire spanned the globe at one time but those
former colonies are now independent countries. The US started off as a
series of British colonies that became independent and then expanded,
annexing Florida, the midwest, then the southwest, Alaska and Hawaii. It
also has acquired territories in the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico,
American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Marianas, plus a number of smaller
islands across the Pacific.

[GM]

No, the US is not analagous to the British Empire, we were never "expansionist" - territorially - except within North America...and also with Hawaii and some of the other Pacific islands, also Puerto Rico in 1898.

The Philippines were granted independence in 1946, the Panama Canal Zone was ceded to Panama later. We did buy Alaska from the Russians, and also the US Virgin Islands from Denmark c. 1917...our only remaing foreign "real estate" is Guantanomo in Cuba.

Here are maps:

US:

"Map of the United States and directly-controlled territory at its greatest extent from 1898–1902, after the Spanish–American War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_territorial_acquisitions#/media/File:American_Empire1.PNG

Here is a BE map c. 1920:

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/File:Map_of_the_British_Empire_in_the_1920%27s.png


Even the Belgian and Portugese empires were much larger in scope than any US "empire"...

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