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OT Julie! THANK YOU for a birthday I will never forget!!

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John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:14:14 AM3/27/19
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:-)

John Kuthe, NEVER owned an Uzi, NEVER WILL!! :-)

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:53:54 AM3/27/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:14:14 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> :-)
>
> John Kuthe, NEVER owned an Uzi, NEVER WILL!! :-)

PS: Bel Nor Detectives SPILLED THE BEANS!! ;-) Hee hee! And it was "nice" to see Clayton Holdover was much the same as I remember it from exactly 40 years ago, the FIRST time I was there!! :-) And who would have KNOWN The Law can NOW hold you for 2*4* Hours rather than the 20 hours without charging you with ANYTHING, undoubtedly because we NOW have FOR PROFIT PRISONS! And I ASKED the Clayton Police "manning" the Holdover about it too!! Just to let them know *I* know more about The Law than THEY DO!! And I left it at that!! And was a Model Inmate for a total of 24 Hours, first part at Bel Nor Police Station!! And Bel Nor Police Station had MUCH BETTER FOOD than the Clayton Holdover!

Hank Rogers

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Mar 27, 2019, 5:36:11 PM3/27/19
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Pamela wrote:
> On 11:53 27 Mar 2019, John Kuthe <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:14:14 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, NEVER owned an Uzi, NEVER WILL!! :-)
>>
>>
>> PS: Bel Nor Detectives SPILLED THE BEANS!! ;-) Hee hee!
>>
>> And it was "nice" to see Clayton Holdover was much the same as I
>> remember it from exactly 40 years ago, the FIRST time I was there!! :-)
>>
>> And who would have KNOWN The Law can NOW hold you for 2*4* Hours rather
>> than the 20 hours without charging you with ANYTHING, undoubtedly
>> because we NOW have FOR PROFIT PRISONS! And I ASKED the Clayton Police
>> "manning" the Holdover about it too!!
>>
>> Just to let them know *I* know more about The Law than THEY DO!!
>
> I bet that worked out really well. Not.
>
>> And I left it at that!! And was a Model Inmate for a total of 24 Hours,
>> first part at Bel Nor Police Station!! And Bel Nor Police Station had
>> MUCH BETTER FOOD than the Clayton Holdover!
>
> Now you have a police record.
>

What the hell did he do? I guess I missed it!


Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 5:55:57 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:36:19 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.net>
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I missed it too. 24 hours... it can't have involved an uzi.

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 6:10:53 PM3/27/19
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"Julie" called the Ben Nor Police about a stupid post I made about Uzi For My Birthday and and:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQ8byG2mY8

Ands I HAVE NOT OWNED A FIREARM SINCE THE EARLY 1990's! None! And the Bel Nor Police arrived with long guns and one asked me to please step outside, put my hands behind my back and began cuffing me and said 'Mr Kuthe you are under arrest and read me the Miranda rights! And as soon as they said "You are under arrest" I became ultra compliant!

They thought I may have an Uzi!

And I get to spend 24 hours in custody with after saying repeatedly I own NO WEAPONS!! And after 24 hours there were NO CHARGES FILED! ROFL!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Has Not Owned A Firearm Since 1992!

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 6:20:47 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
Lol! Better safe than sorry. Did Julie tell you she called the police
or did the police tell you?

GM

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Mar 27, 2019, 6:34:32 PM3/27/19
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So did the hot Indian roomies skedaddle...OOPS - there goes that "rental income" a - swirlin' down the crapper...!!!

LOL...!!!

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John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 6:37:23 PM3/27/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
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> > Now you have a police record.
> >
>
> What the hell did he do? I guess I missed it!

I did NOTHING! And I was NOT CHARGED! So I have NO Police Record of any Convictions!! Just Police Reports, no convictions or record!

I have not owned a firearm since about 1992!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Total Pacifict and Non Violent Hippie!

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 6:43:27 PM3/27/19
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Nope! They asked one of I had any weapons and he said not that he knew of, answering from upstairs.

The police were looking for GUNS and found none, then relaxed. Once I was in the Bel Nor station they put all their long guns in the huge gun safe in the Police station. I was "in custody" for 24 hours and the Police filed NO CHARGES against me!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Pacifist Non Gun Owner!

Jeßus

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:03:31 PM3/27/19
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LOL, on so many levels. What a country.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:27:35 PM3/27/19
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That will go nicely with yoose nursing record. Yoose should frame them
for display in yoose shared house.


John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:29:40 PM3/27/19
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We have a Legal System for a REASON!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:31:12 PM3/27/19
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I HAVE NO RECORD!!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Police Record FREE!

Alex

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:50:46 PM3/27/19
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Did you meet "Bubba" and convert him to Socialism?

Alex

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Mar 27, 2019, 7:52:39 PM3/27/19
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She didn't drop the dime to the IRS unless she uses a different name.
They will be next!

Jeßus

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Mar 27, 2019, 8:06:02 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
LOL, detained for 24 hours. Great legal system you have.

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 8:22:13 PM3/27/19
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It used to be 20 hours and I asked the Clayton Police if they knew when it was increased to 24 hours from 20. No one did! It was 20 hour limit to hold someone with no charges being filed. Back in the 1960s when there were radical activists, and if someone sensitive like MLK Jr or bobby Kennedy was flying into a city the local police would herd up the activists in the area and hold them all for 20 hours.

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 8:27:46 PM3/27/19
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I will declare my rental income as operating income for my NOT FOR PROFIT business under CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG Real Estate and Human Development NOT FOR PROFIT business as soon as I make enough $$ to PAY the taxes! That's why I NEED a nursing job income! My housemates pay into the NOT FOR PROFIT SUB CORPORATION that IS 3068Bellerive.ORG, in CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Real Estate and Human Developer! :-)

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 8:29:36 PM3/27/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:52:39 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
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than the Clayton Holdover!
>
> She didn't drop the dime to the IRS unless she uses a different name.
> They will be next!

And you STILL THINK the IRS will VISIT ME? Fat Chance! I'll get USPS Mails first!

dsi1

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Mar 27, 2019, 8:57:48 PM3/27/19
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It's a safe bet that it was that rat bastard s.w. that dropped a dime on you.

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:11:07 PM3/27/19
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He's lucky he's not black.

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:26:08 PM3/27/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 00:57:21 GMT, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>You must mean the house with a spare room where the lodger had to leave soon
>after reporting the landlord for possessing an unauthorised gun.
>
>What a monkey house.

Why do you think it was a lodger? He seems to think it was Julie.

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:32:31 PM3/27/19
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I DO NOT CARE!! I was NOT LEGALLY CHARGED because I BROKE NO LAWS!!!!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Real Estate and Human Developer, NOT FOR PROFIT!

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:36:55 PM3/27/19
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I understand what you're saying, but when a person who doesn't come
across all that stable, starts talking about taking people out with an
uzi, a phone call might be a good idea.

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:44:54 PM3/27/19
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But any threat is OBVIATED when I DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS to CARRY IT OUT! No UZI or any other Firearms!! Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!! For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!

And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+

John Kuthe, Climate Activist, etc!

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 9:58:52 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >It's a safe bet that it was that rat bastard s.w. that dropped a dime on you.
>>
>> I understand what you're saying, but when a person who doesn't come
>> across all that stable, starts talking about taking people out with an
>> uzi, a phone call might be a good idea.
>
>But any threat is OBVIATED when I DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS to CARRY IT OUT!

That's probaby why you're a free man again.

>No UZI or any other Firearms!! Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating
>more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!! For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was
>when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!
>
>And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+

Maybe you're very stable, but you don't come across it here. Just the
statement that you're going to get on the roof with an uzi, is already
dubious.

And so what if it was 20 hours in the 60s and 24 now? Things change in
45 years. I'm more surprised that they locked you up at all. What good
did that do?

Jeßus

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Mar 27, 2019, 10:12:28 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
How the hell is anyone here supposed to know that?

>No UZI or any other Firearms!!

How the hell is anyone here supposed to know that?

>Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!!
>For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!

I've always regarded privately owned and operated prisons as an
obscenity.

>And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+

LOL, stable like your president?

Jeßus

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Mar 27, 2019, 10:16:34 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
Of course they did. It's the land of the free, after all.

Jeßus

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Mar 27, 2019, 10:20:34 PM3/27/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:10:59 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Yes, lucky he's not black. But he's a white, straight male. That
demographic has it's own discrimination to deal with.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 27, 2019, 10:26:21 PM3/27/19
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Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 17:57:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a safe bet that it was that rat bastard s.w. that dropped a dime on you.
>>>
>>> I understand what you're saying, but when a person who doesn't come
>>> across all that stable, starts talking about taking people out with an
>>> uzi, a phone call might be a good idea.
>>
>> But any threat is OBVIATED when I DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS to CARRY IT OUT!
>
> That's probaby why you're a free man again.
>
>> No UZI or any other Firearms!! Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating
>> more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!! For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was
>> when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!
>>
>> And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+
>
> Maybe you're very stable, but you don't come across it here. Just the
> statement that you're going to get on the roof with an uzi, is already
> dubious.
>
> And so what if it was 20 hours in the 60s and 24 now? Things change in
> 45 years. I'm more surprised that they locked you up at all. What good
> did that do?
>

Gives them time to make records checks and inquiries, also extends the
time that tips or other evidence could roll in. Remember, they don't
know that he is a harmless idiot, all they know is they have picked up a
raving lunatic.



Dave Smith

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Mar 27, 2019, 11:04:39 PM3/27/19
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On 2019-03-27 10:08 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> o doesn't come

>> Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!!
>> For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!
>
> I've always regarded privately owned and operated prisons as an
> obscenity.

It ranks up there with privatized law enforcement and "security
contractors like Blackwater.


>
>> And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+
>
> LOL, stable like your president?

;-)

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 11:05:34 PM3/27/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:58:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
...
>
> And so what if it was 20 hours in the 60s and 24 now? Things change in
> 45 years. I'm more surprised that they locked you up at all. What good
> did that do?

You are missing my point! I'll bet it went up to 24 hours because we now have a FOR PROFIT PRISON SYSTEM! And 4 more PAIL hours from the Federal Government means $$$! So does the cheap poison food they serve the inmates!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, etc.!

John Kuthe

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Mar 27, 2019, 11:24:11 PM3/27/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 9:26:21 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
...
> Gives them time to make records checks and inquiries, also extends the
> time that tips or other evidence could roll in. Remember, they don't
> know that he is a harmless idiot, all they know is they have picked up a
> raving lunatic.

They have all the time they want! And I was anything BUT a raving lunatic except on that post which the detective PRINTED OUT with my name and pic on it! I was 100% in control the whole evening!

Oh and one of the detectives found the post "I bought four Chicken Tits!" highly amusing!

John Kuthe...





Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 11:30:10 PM3/27/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:26:29 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.net>
wrote:
True, I guess.

Bruce

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Mar 27, 2019, 11:36:12 PM3/27/19
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I've never felt discriminated against yet.

GM

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Mar 28, 2019, 8:16:27 AM3/28/19
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John Kuthe wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 9:26:21 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> ...
> > Gives them time to make records checks and inquiries, also extends the
> > time that tips or other evidence could roll in. Remember, they don't
> > know that he is a harmless idiot, all they know is they have picked up a
> > raving lunatic.
>
> They have all the time they want! And I was anything BUT a raving lunatic except on that post which the detective PRINTED OUT with my name and pic on it! I was 100% in control the whole evening!


Soooooo...if you were "in control the whole evening", why were you not able to leave the lock - up when you wanted...???

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Janet

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Mar 28, 2019, 9:42:25 AM3/28/19
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In article <4a38b7cf-8a11-4829...@googlegroups.com>,
johnk...@gmail.com says...

> > > They thought I may have an Uzi!

Whether or not you legally own a gun, was never the issue.

On this group you threatened to get a uzi and shoot people.
You have said you have bipolar disorder, a serious mental illness:
that you self medicate for it: that you take cannabis.

Given the terrible US history of crazed gunmen killers, it's not
surprising some concerned person in the USA took notice of your
threats and dobbed you in to local police for investigation.

Maybe it was one of your own tenants. Whoever it was, they DID THE
RIGHT THING.


> > > And I get to spend 24 hours in custody with after saying repeatedly I own NO WEAPONS!!

Whether or not you legally own guns is irrelevent. Anyone in US can get
hold of them, apparently.

> And after 24 hours there were NO CHARGES FILED! ROFL!

Your local police took it seriously (as they should). While you were
held they no doubt checked you out , questioned your housemate tenants,
past/ present employers, checked out your nursing license, your
disciplinary record there; your landlord license.

Do you think they're laughing? Or hurriedly reviewing your nirse and
landlord licenses, and where to live? Frantically googling your name
and usenet crap?

"No charges", but the point is you have been flagged up by the police
as a local crazy and self-declared anarchist who makes stupid gun
threats.

If you think that's a laughing matter, dream on. Others, including
people YOU depend on, are unlikely to share your sense of humour.

Janet UK



A Moose in Love

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Mar 28, 2019, 9:50:47 AM3/28/19
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he was just mucking around. and being an anarchist is not a crime; not even close. it's a flaky political stance to take, but violence is not endorsed by anarchists. the opposite in fact. having said that, there are people who call themselves anarchists who are violent. but they're not really anarchists. anarchists don't want chaos, what it is that they want is to live free from government force. how they would accomplish that, i have no idea.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 28, 2019, 10:23:14 AM3/28/19
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24 hours in the U.S. 8-12 in Australia. I don't see
where there's all that much difference. It's not like
we're keeping suspects of major crimes locked up for
weeks without charging them.

John was "helping the police with their enquiries" ;)

Cindy Hamilton

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 10:50:38 AM3/28/19
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I was in control of ME INSIDE ME, NOT OUTSIDE ME!! DUH!! And I DID GOOD for a few others of the INMATES IN CLAYTON HOLDOVER!! Because I am a NURSE, and THAT'S WHAT I DO!!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Doer Of The GOOD! :-)

U.S. Janet B.

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Mar 28, 2019, 11:02:51 AM3/28/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 13:42:23 -0000, Janet <nob...@home.net> wrote:
snip
>
> "No charges", but the point is you have been flagged up by the police
>as a local crazy and self-declared anarchist who makes stupid gun
>threats.
>
snip
> Janet UK
>
probably as a person of interest by the FBI as well

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 12:12:01 PM3/28/19
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The KKK Took My Baby Away!! The Ramones, now playing!! And now, I'm An OUTSIDER!! ;-)

Dave Smith

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Mar 28, 2019, 12:19:54 PM3/28/19
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On 2019-03-28 9:42 a.m., Janet wrote:

> "No charges", but the point is you have been flagged up by the police
> as a local crazy and self-declared anarchist who makes stupid gun
> threats.
>
> If you think that's a laughing matter, dream on. Others, including
> people YOU depend on, are unlikely to share your sense of humour.
>

It probably provided a few laughs for the officers who had to deal with
him. I suppose that if they had body cams with audio they would have had
to turn them off as they told their co-workers about the loony they had
to deal with that day.



Dave Smith

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Mar 28, 2019, 12:22:31 PM3/28/19
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When you get a guy that carries on the way Kuthe does in here, and
obsessing about his young female tenants, and then making comments about
Uzis some people think it prudent to alert authorities rather than
waiting until he acts out physically.



GM

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Mar 28, 2019, 12:41:37 PM3/28/19
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You're going to end up in "Arsenal Street", John Kuthe...!!! :

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A part of the community for over 140 years, the hospital has seen the surrounding neighborhoods change from fields and farms to a thriving residential and business area known as "The Hill," famous for many fabulous restaurants, markets and bakeries. The hospital moved into all new facilities in 1997, including a 4-ward hospital facility and 10 cottages.

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John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 1:36:08 PM3/28/19
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Hee hee! I HOPE "they" put me on their WATCH LIST!! I LOVE BEING WATCHED!! I smile, wave, etc.!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Audiophile!! :-)

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:10:38 PM3/28/19
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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:52:39 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:14:14 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, NEVER owned an Uzi, NEVER WILL!! :-)
>>> PS: Bel Nor Detectives SPILLED THE BEANS!! ;-) Hee hee! And it was "nice" to see Clayton Holdover was much the same as I remember it from exactly 40 years ago, the FIRST time I was there!! :-) And who would have KNOWN The Law can NOW hold you for 2*4* Hours rather than the 20 hours without charging you with ANYTHING, undoubtedly because we NOW have FOR PROFIT PRISONS! And I ASKED the Clayton Police "manning" the Holdover about it too!! Just to let them know *I* know more about The Law than THEY DO!! And I left it at that!! And was a Model Inmate for a total of 24 Hours, first part at Bel Nor Police Station!! And Bel Nor Police Station had MUCH BETTER FOOD than the Clayton Holdover!
>> She didn't drop the dime to the IRS unless she uses a different name.
>> They will be next!
> I will declare my rental income as operating income for my NOT FOR PROFIT business under CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG Real Estate and Human Development NOT FOR PROFIT business as soon as I make enough $$ to PAY the taxes! That's why I NEED a nursing job income! My housemates pay into the NOT FOR PROFIT SUB CORPORATION that IS 3068Bellerive.ORG, in CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG!
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Real Estate and Human Developer! :-)

Even if your pipe dream was possible you failed to create a 501(c)(3)
organization in 2018 while you collected rental income.

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:12:40 PM3/28/19
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 12:10:53 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Pamela wrote:
>>>> On 11:53 27 Mar 2019, John Kuthe <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:14:14 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe, NEVER owned an Uzi, NEVER WILL!! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Bel Nor Detectives SPILLED THE BEANS!! ;-) Hee hee!
>>>>>
>>>>> And it was "nice" to see Clayton Holdover was much the same as I
>>>>> remember it from exactly 40 years ago, the FIRST time I was there!! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> And who would have KNOWN The Law can NOW hold you for 2*4* Hours rather
>>>>> than the 20 hours without charging you with ANYTHING, undoubtedly
>>>>> because we NOW have FOR PROFIT PRISONS! And I ASKED the Clayton Police
>>>>> "manning" the Holdover about it too!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to let them know *I* know more about The Law than THEY DO!!
>>>> I bet that worked out really well. Not.
>>>>
>>>>> And I left it at that!! And was a Model Inmate for a total of 24 Hours,
>>>>> first part at Bel Nor Police Station!! And Bel Nor Police Station had
>>>>> MUCH BETTER FOOD than the Clayton Holdover!
>>>> Now you have a police record.
>>>>
>>> What the hell did he do? I guess I missed it!
>> "Julie" called the Ben Nor Police about a stupid post I made about Uzi For My Birthday and and:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQ8byG2mY8
>>
>> Ands I HAVE NOT OWNED A FIREARM SINCE THE EARLY 1990's! None! And the Bel Nor Police arrived with long guns and one asked me to please step outside, put my hands behind my back and began cuffing me and said 'Mr Kuthe you are under arrest and read me the Miranda rights! And as soon as they said "You are under arrest" I became ultra compliant!
>>
>> They thought I may have an Uzi!
>>
>> And I get to spend 24 hours in custody with after saying repeatedly I own NO WEAPONS!! And after 24 hours there were NO CHARGES FILED! ROFL!
>>
>> John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Has Not Owned A Firearm Since 1992!
> It's a safe bet that it was that rat bastard s.w. that dropped a dime on you.

Whoever it was had a solid reason and the result is hilarious!

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:15:56 PM3/28/19
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John Kuthe wrote:
> I DO NOT CARE!! I was NOT LEGALLY CHARGED because I BROKE NO LAWS!!!!
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Real Estate and Human Developer, NOT FOR PROFIT!
>

How were they able to lock you up for 24 hours and search your house?
They must have had a warrant. They couldn't do that based on a random
phone call.

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:18:35 PM3/28/19
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You weren't in prison, expert, you were in jail which I'm sure is owned
by your town or county. Did you get a tattoo? Maybe a cool rainbow?

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:22:49 PM3/28/19
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Lucky for him he must have been out of weed when they searched his house.

Bruce

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:26:44 PM3/28/19
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He says it was Julie. What does he base that on? I agree that it's
hilarious, regardless who made the call. No more UZI threats from
John.

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:29:56 PM3/28/19
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Imagine them walking up to the house and seeing that Rainbow Tribe
disaster over the door.

Alex

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:31:14 PM3/28/19
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Pamela wrote:
> What happens when the loony actually manages to get hold of a gun but gets
> ignored because he's a known lunatic?

He shoots up a school in Parkland, FL.

Jeßus

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Mar 28, 2019, 7:58:47 PM3/28/19
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 23:04:36 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-03-27 10:08 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> o doesn't come
>
>>> Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!!
>>> For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!
>>
>> I've always regarded privately owned and operated prisons as an
>> obscenity.
>
>It ranks up there with privatized law enforcement and "security
>contractors like Blackwater.

Yes. Blackwater is such an ethical business that they've since changed
their name not once, but TWICE due to their notoriety. Changed to Xe
Services and now known as Academi.

That they seem to receive preferential treatment from Govco and can
perpetrate human rights abuses without consequences speaks volumes
about 'democracy'.

Jeßus

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Mar 28, 2019, 8:02:32 PM3/28/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 19:18:25 -0400, Alex <Xela...@gmail.com> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
<snip>
>> But any threat is OBVIATED when I DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS to CARRY IT OUT! No UZI or any other Firearms!! Police then lost interest exempt interest incarcerating more inmates to a FOR PROFIT Prison!! For 24 HOURS, up from the 20 hours it was when Prisons were NOT FOR PROFIT!
>>
>> And I come on as VERY STABLE because I AM! A&Ox4+
>>
>> John Kuthe, Climate Activist, etc!
>
>You weren't in prison, expert, you were in jail which I'm sure is owned
>by your town or county. Did you get a tattoo? Maybe a cool rainbow?

This one may be more appropriate:
https://postimg.cc/kDntgthS

Jeßus

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Mar 28, 2019, 8:07:59 PM3/28/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:36:05 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:17:03 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:10:59 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:02:33 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:03:31 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 04:53:50 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>We have a Legal System for a REASON!
>>>>
>>>>LOL, detained for 24 hours. Great legal system you have.
>>>
>>>He's lucky he's not black.
>>
>>Yes, lucky he's not black. But he's a white, straight male. That
>>demographic has it's own discrimination to deal with.
>
>I've never felt discriminated against yet.

Talk long enough to a millennial SJW (social justice warrior) or
modern 'feminist', and you will. In no time you'll be accused of being
a 'phobe' or 'ist' of some description.

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 8:16:38 PM3/28/19
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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 6:10:38 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
...
> Even if your pipe dream was possible you failed to create a 501(c)(3)
> organization in 2018 while you collected rental income.

No, but I created *.ORG sites for ALL the CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG umbrella NOT FOR "PROPHET" CORPORATION! MY Not For Profit NON TAXABLE UMBRELLA CORPORATION!

And WE ALL Pay NO TAXES, just like Churches!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and CEO of CooperativeCorporationsSTL.ORG!

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 28, 2019, 8:42:36 PM3/28/19
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Sure, when you couple it with some posts, especially one about an Uzi.

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 9:34:02 PM3/28/19
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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 7:42:36 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...
> Sure, when you couple it with some posts, especially one about an Uzi.

Like "Uzi For My Birthday"?

You or anyone had NEVER heard that phrase before? You or anyone MUST BE LIVING UNDER A ROCK! ;-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, etc.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 28, 2019, 9:49:51 PM3/28/19
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I live under a rock.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 28, 2019, 10:08:56 PM3/28/19
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Don't count on it. Mental patients can be very unpredictable. Sometimes
they repeat the same offense over and over. Sometimes they have to be
restrained, or put in a straight jacket.

It is not hilarious to me, rather it is sad, because he can't help it,
and the prognosis is poor.








Hank Rogers

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Mar 28, 2019, 10:30:35 PM3/28/19
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Does St. Louis have no mental health organization? It's a large city, so
I figured there has to be help for people that need it.

You really need to seek out help before something much worse happens.

Good luck.

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 11:34:45 PM3/28/19
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I AM Mental Health Care! I'm an RN, BSN, and a Cannabis Nurse!

NOTHING WORSE CAN HAPPEN!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN, Cannabis Nurse!

John Kuthe

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Mar 28, 2019, 11:37:10 PM3/28/19
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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:30:35 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
...
>
> Does St. Louis have no mental health organization? It's a large city, so
> I figured there has to be help for people that need it.
>
> You really need to seek out help before something much worse happens.
>
> Good luck.

Oh, and REAGAN eliminated all that Mental Health Care, remember? I DO!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Mental Health Care Advocate!

Bruce

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Mar 28, 2019, 11:58:43 PM3/28/19
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Police see a lot more than you, apparently. They wouldn't raise an
eyebrow.

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:01:33 AM3/29/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:09:04 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.net>
wrote:
I think he was just venting in an immature way. He'll know better than
to do that again.

>It is not hilarious to me, rather it is sad, because he can't help it,
>and the prognosis is poor.

I don't know.

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:06:10 AM3/29/19
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:04:27 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:36:05 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:17:03 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:10:59 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>He's lucky he's not black.
>>>
>>>Yes, lucky he's not black. But he's a white, straight male. That
>>>demographic has it's own discrimination to deal with.
>>
>>I've never felt discriminated against yet.
>
>Talk long enough to a millennial SJW (social justice warrior) or
>modern 'feminist', and you will. In no time you'll be accused of being
>a 'phobe' or 'ist' of some description.

I don't often disagree with feminists, but politically correct people,
yes.

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:07:03 AM3/29/19
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:37:07 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:30:35 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>...
>>
>> Does St. Louis have no mental health organization? It's a large city, so
>> I figured there has to be help for people that need it.
>>
>> You really need to seek out help before something much worse happens.
>>
>> Good luck.
>
>Oh, and REAGAN eliminated all that Mental Health Care, remember? I DO!

Reagan was almost as dumb as GM.

Jeßus

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Jeßus

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Mar 29, 2019, 1:32:13 AM3/29/19
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 15:06:58 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Shrewd when it came to PR - dumb as a post when it came to policy. He
was so easily manipulated by interest groups.

Jeßus

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Mar 29, 2019, 1:48:50 AM3/29/19
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 15:06:05 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:04:27 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:36:05 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:17:03 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:10:59 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>He's lucky he's not black.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, lucky he's not black. But he's a white, straight male. That
>>>>demographic has it's own discrimination to deal with.
>>>
>>>I've never felt discriminated against yet.
>>
>>Talk long enough to a millennial SJW (social justice warrior) or
>>modern 'feminist', and you will. In no time you'll be accused of being
>>a 'phobe' or 'ist' of some description.
>
>I don't often disagree with feminists, but politically correct people,
>yes.

There are different 'waves' of feminism, so it does depend with whom
you're talking to.

dsi1

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Mar 29, 2019, 3:38:24 AM3/29/19
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On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 5:36:12 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> I've never felt discriminated against yet.

It's a common experience with colored folks in America. If you're black, Asian, Mexican, funny looking middle Eastern dudes, Filipinos, et al., you're going to know about it alright. A lot of white folks have never been a minority where they live. White folks are so out of touch that they don't ever believe that discrimination exists in America. Everybody else knows about it. That's the breaks.

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 3:55:22 AM3/29/19
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I said that _I_ have never felt discriminated against. I didn't say
discrimination doesn't exist.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 29, 2019, 5:56:11 AM3/29/19
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Although you can't get blood out of a stone, the IRS has a special
press for getting money out of tax deadbeats.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 29, 2019, 5:59:25 AM3/29/19
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No, he won't. He's incapable of self-control while unmedicated and
manic.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 6:03:02 AM3/29/19
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It was the first time. It got him locked up. That could be a big
negative motivator. We'll have to wait and see. Popcorn?

dsi1

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Mar 29, 2019, 6:13:06 AM3/29/19
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My comments were not about you, you, or you. It was about Americans.

Bruce

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Mar 29, 2019, 6:51:46 AM3/29/19
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 03:13:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:55:22 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 00:38:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 5:36:12 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've never felt discriminated against yet.
>> >
>> >It's a common experience with colored folks in America. If you're black, Asian, Mexican, funny looking middle Eastern dudes, Filipinos, et al., you're going to know about it alright. A lot of white folks have never been a minority where they live. White folks are so out of touch that they don't ever believe that discrimination exists in America. Everybody else knows about it. That's the breaks.
>>
>> I said that _I_ have never felt discriminated against. I didn't say
>> discrimination doesn't exist.
>
>My comments were not about you, you, or you. It was about Americans.

Ok, ok, ok.

Ophelia

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"Jeßus" wrote in message news:4b6r9eti9jfbifh2f...@j.net...
==

THAT is a perfect woman????


Ophelia

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Mar 29, 2019, 7:51:45 AM3/29/19
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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:d240efad-f9f0-4dff...@googlegroups.com...
==

I suppose it happens in most places. Horrible:(

Julie Bove

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Mar 29, 2019, 8:26:29 AM3/29/19
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dsi1 wrote :
You two anti-American butthurt libtards
should get a room.

John Kuthe

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Mar 29, 2019, 8:33:14 AM3/29/19
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I have ALWAYS felt OUT OF PLACE with ANY group of my Fellow Humans!

NO ONE just automatically LIKES me! Everyone MAKES ME EARN their acceptance! I LIKE people who look different! I find my Fellow White People here in the U.S. easiest to INITIALLY earn their acceptance, but as soon as I SPEAK with them, their acceptance seems to FADE!

Because I KNOW I am smart, and know LOTS of things and as soon as I speak, they realize I'm VERY smart, and THEN I make them feel UNCOMFORTABLE in their own Skin and SEEK to get away from me! Overtly OR MOSTLY COVERTLY!!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe

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Mar 29, 2019, 8:43:23 AM3/29/19
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ROFL!!!

AFRAID of NON WHITES, JULIE??!! ROFL!!!

What's that SWINGING between your LEGS there, Julie? A SMALL PENIS or an ELONGATED CLITORIS? Pick ONE, please? ;-)

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:01:19 AM3/29/19
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Are you too stupid to realize that's not the real Julie?

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia

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"John Kuthe" wrote in message
news:dbe6672b-566a-4a25...@googlegroups.com...
==

John, I don't think anyone is accepted automatically. One has to get to
know a person to do that.


John Kuthe

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:14:49 AM3/29/19
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On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 8:01:19 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
> Are you too stupid to realize that's not the real Julie?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

There EXISTS no REAL "Julie"! Just a SOCK PUPPET!!

I KNOW that now!! Probably one of Alex's AVATARS!! The PRICK!! :-(

John Kuthe Climate Activist and Clobberer Of Sock Puppets!

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:37:23 AM3/29/19
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It is, and it happens even among the other races. There is black/black
discrimination as an example. Goes back to the beginning of mankind.

I don't see it going away. You cannot legislate feelings and attitudes
and thoughts.

Dave Smith

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:45:09 AM3/29/19
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It is curious that people will dump on white people for the excluding
people of other races while other races and cultures are just as biased,
but only white people can be racist these days. Slavery was never
really a thing here, except among the native people, but we now have a
significant black population, primarily from the Caribbean, and a lot of
them have a chip on their shoulder about 500 years of slavery.... that
happened to previous generations in other places. Not wanting children
to date or marry people of another race is not exclusive to whites.



Dave Smith

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:48:28 AM3/29/19
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Yes. You often make sweeping statements about Americans, and about white
people. No prejudice there.

Ophelia

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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:jcpnE.150694$cD4....@fx07.iad...
===

No, I can see that, but nevertheless it is horrible:( I don't care what
colour a person is so long as they are nice and kind people.

dsi1

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On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 1:51:45 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I suppose it happens in most places. Horrible:(

Possibly, I can't really say how things are in your country. My guess is that it mostly happens where socioeconomic inequalities exist along racial lines. It didn't happen here because most of the people here were on the same boat - dirt poor working in the cane fields.

Da Hawaiians love to talk about race and culture. The curious thing about the people on mainland is that it's not PC to do that. The mainlanders just freak out when people mention race. It is a problem that will continue to vex America because, while people of color have to confront this reality most days, white folks can't even decide whether or not such a problem exists. It's a deeply repressed, mass delusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-un-LUjRX14

Ophelia

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:08:52 PM3/29/19
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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:16e77d5c-b0d8-4843...@googlegroups.com...
===

There is a mixture where I live and I never see any problems. Everyone
is kind and pleasant to each other. I do however hear about it in some
places in UK. I can't speak about everywhere, because of course, the only
time we hear about it is when there 'are' problems.

I have to say though I have never lived anywhere like that and I never
want to. I grew up with a mixed family next door and the boy my age was my
best friend. I just heard he had died in 2013:(( I don't give a fig about
race. Personality and kindness are all that are important to me.




Gary

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:27:50 PM3/29/19
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John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I have ALWAYS felt OUT OF PLACE with ANY group of my Fellow Humans!
>
> NO ONE just automatically LIKES me! Everyone MAKES ME EARN their acceptance! I LIKE people who look different! I find my Fellow White People here in the U.S. easiest to INITIALLY earn their acceptance, but as soon as I SPEAK with them, their acceptance seems to FADE!
>
> Because I KNOW I am smart, and know LOTS of things and as soon as I speak, they realize I'm VERY smart, and THEN I make them feel UNCOMFORTABLE in their own Skin and SEEK to get away from me! Overtly OR MOSTLY COVERTLY!!

I suspect just a few minutes conversation with you scares them.
Best to run away from this fellow, they think.

Gary

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:28:49 PM3/29/19
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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" wrote:
> I could this possibly happening to you:
> http://dardaniapost.com/2019/03/married-man-spends-76000-to-look-like-the-perfect-woman/
>
> ==
>
> THAT is a perfect woman????

No, Oph. That is the perfect candidate to get a bullet between
the eyes immediately. Forget political correctness where we allow
all kinds of weirdos to claim their oddities these days. Too many
ppl on this earth these days and fuckups like that guy needs to
go immediately. Don't baby their warped brains, just end it.

Enough is enough with all this political correctness bullshit.
Also just the transgender nonsense in general. These fucked up
ppl don't need understanding or operations, they need to get
serious mental health therapy...or just shoot them. Not
joking...this odd crap has gone out of control lately.

IMO, many of these weird ass people should have remained in the
closet.
We don't want to hear about or see that crap. Like the Bruce
Jenner nonsense. Now he's a fake woman and still just as messed
up in the head as he ever was.

dsi1

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:31:25 PM3/29/19
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Kind and pleasant is a great way to be although it's pretty much the exact opposite of the way things are on rfc. Why is that? I like talking to people from other cultures - it's great fun and you learn a lot. One gets to see different ways of seeing things as well as the universality of the human species.

dsi1

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Mar 29, 2019, 12:31:47 PM3/29/19
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tert in seattle

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Mar 29, 2019, 1:00:06 PM3/29/19
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I prefer to generalize about the Nacirema

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 29, 2019, 1:14:19 PM3/29/19
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People seem to have an innate fear of anything different. We also learn
prejudices from those around us, parents, neighbors, schoolmates.

I grew up in a white neighborhood, went to an all white school and had
little contact with other races. I may have had some wrong ideas that
way too. When I got into the workforce I found that others may not look
like me, but still have much the same in their life. They can be
interesting people and you can learn from them.

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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==

The nastiness I see here, I put down to people being able to let out
feelings they daren't in real life.


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