OT These 12 hour shifts are gonna be rough!

[John Kuthe]

I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(

John Kuthe...

[GM]

John Kuthe wrote:

> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
>
> John Kuthe...

How long before they dismiss you...maybe we should have a betting pool, LOL...!!!

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Greg

[John Kuthe]

How long before you become kind and supportive?

Forever? :-(

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 7:25:03 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:

[Snag]

Probably about the time he has a psychotic break and kills a few
patients ... just remember , virtually ALL of the perpetrators of mass
shootings have been on anti-psychotic meds at one time or another .
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Yes , I'm old
and crotchety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[GM]

If you had the integrity to take responsibility for your behaviors, then I would be glad to wish you well. But as it is, you cannot even take care of yourself. You've --->>> no <<<--- business being in health care, where your actions can bode well - or ill - for those in your care...I mean if you cannot even find your W-2's for the past years, how can you be trusted to measure a correct dosage, etc....

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Greg

[GM]

Snag wrote:

> On 5/24/2020 7:24 AM, GM wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> >> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> >
> > How long before they dismiss you...maybe we should have a betting pool, LOL...!!!
> >
>
> Probably about the time he has a psychotic break and kills a few
> patients ... just remember , virtually ALL of the perpetrators of mass
> shootings have been on anti-psychotic meds at one time or another .

True dat'...

Not a mass act, but this Chicago incident caught my eye:

https://cwbchicago.com/2020/05/uptown-man-charged-with-smothering-wife-to-death.html

Uptown man charged with smothering wife to death
May 21, 2020

"Prosecutors on Thursday charged an Uptown man with first-degree murder in connection with the smothering death of his wife last month. Brian Rosin, 34, was ordered held in lieu of $100,000 bail. Judge Arthur Willis said Rosin must submit to electronic monitoring if he can post a $10,000 deposit bond.

Shortly before 4 p.m. on April 28, Rosin called 911 to report that 25-year-old Isabel Rosin had apparently died in their apartment on the 1200 block of West Carmen. Police bodyworn cameras recorded Rosin as he told arriving officers that he covered his wife’s face with a pillow because she was screaming during a schizophrenic episode, prosecutors said.

Isabel Rosin was taken to Weiss Hospital in critical condition. She died early the next morning. Brian Rosin was arrested by police who responded to his 911 call, but detectives released him two days later while they awaited autopsy results.

The medical examiner ruled late last week that her death was a homicide by smothering, according to records. Brian Rosin was taken back into custody this week.

During a bond hearing Thursday, Assistant State’s Attorney James Murphy said the Rosins ingested a hallucinogenic drug on the afternoon of April 28. A defense attorney later identified the drug as mushrooms. No illicit drugs were found in her system at autopsy, Murphy said, but the blood tests did not look for hallucinogens.

An examination of Brian Rosin’s phone records revealed that he sent a series of text messages to his wife’s phone that narrated the events leading up to her death, Murphy said. Rosin’s texts allegedly said he felt angry that he “wasted” a trip on drugs and said he could not take her to a hospital due to the COVID-19 outbreak.

According to Murphy, Rosin said his wife began screaming, laughing, singing, crying, and tried to take off her clothes after ingesting the drug. She “threw him into a table, striking his back and spilling soda onto a computer,” Murphy said.

Rosin allegedly grew angry with her behavior and the potential damage to the computer. He also became concerned that her screams might cause neighbors to think that he’s a domestic batterer, so he forced her onto a couch and placed a pillow over her head, Murphy continued.

“The victim struggled and clawed,” Murphy said. “She screamed anytime he put a pillow on her face, so he put a second pillow on.”

Isabel Rosin eventually stopped breathing and he called 911. Murphy said Brian Rosin’s last text message to his wife said, “I am sorry.”

A neighbor told police that they heard Isabel Rosin scream for help and say something like “you hurt me,” but they did not think the situation was serious, Murphy said.

The Rosins, who were married for three years, had no children.

Brian Rosin’s defense attorney, Mark Kusatzky, called Isabel Rosin’s death “a sudden and intense tragedy.” He said both of the Rosins took medications for psychiatric conditions.

“They had a loving relationship where they helped each other,” Kusatzky said..."

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[Bruce]

On Sun, 24 May 2020 07:58:09 -0500, Snag <snag...@msn.com> wrote:

>On 5/24/2020 7:24 AM, GM wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>>
>> How long before they dismiss you...maybe we should have a betting pool, LOL...!!!
>>
>
> Probably about the time he has a psychotic break and kills a few
>patients ... just remember , virtually ALL of the perpetrators of mass
>shootings have been on anti-psychotic meds at one time or another .

Or they've been hiding in the mountains with their mama.

[Hank Rogers]

John Kuthe wrote:
> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Oh shit. Well, there goes the new job.

Seriously, you shouldn't drop your medicines. I hope you'll be able
to handle the new job and hope you'll enjoy it. Good luck.

[Boron Elgar]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/201506/mass-shootings-psychiatric-medications-and-rick-perry

[Bruce]

So much for that theory.

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(

After 3 years of not working, yes, 12 hour shifts all of the
sudden might be rough at first. But you'll get used to it.

You should check with your doctor that recommended Seroquel
before you quit taking it. Explain your new situation.

Remember, you are a nurse and not a doctor.

I wish you well with the new job unlike so many here that
seem to waiting in glee just waiting for you to fail.

[cshenk]

I wish him well too. Good advice on the meds. Maybe he needs to step
them down a little but not stop?

[Bruce]

You heard cshenk, Jon.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5ECAAC5E...@att.net...

==

Not me. I wish him well and hope it all goes well for him!


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[John Kuthe]

As an RN, I stepped my Seroquel dose down from 200mg HS to 100HS, two nights in a row before I called my MD and asked her to rewrite the prescription. As long as the nurse is aware of any safety risks associated with adjusting a prescription, we can, then consult with the MD later if the change shows to be effective. And recently I've been biting my 100MG tabs about in 1/2 anyway, because I really don't like Seroquel.

Nurses know a LOT about prescription drugs too, yano? And I got an A in pharmacology! :-)

You non-medical people don't know much about them, we medicos DO!

Get it?

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:20:16 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:

[Mike Duffy]

On Sun, 24 May 2020 06:28:16 -0700, GM wrote:

> Rosin said his wife began [...] to take off her clothes

Err, ummm, where exactly can we get this kind of mushroom?

[Mike Duffy]

On Sun, 24 May 2020 13:18:22 -0400, Gary wrote:

> I wish you well with the new job unlike so many here that seem to
> waiting in glee just waiting for you to fail.

I agree, John. Changing your dose might be too many changes too fast.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 7:22:58 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Maybe you just need a completely different medication??

[John Kuthe]

Thanks Ophelia! Yep, I have the coffee pot set up to make a fresh pot and my big Thermos ready nearby and my lunchtime bagel sandwich made up and wrapped in foil in the fridge, my scrubs clean and ready to go! First few PAID days are orientation and learning how to use their electronic charting tools. Then next week, nursing work, for 6 more years I hope! Then I will be 66 and ready to retire on full SocSec payout of over $1500/mo. Plus my house earns me $$ too! :-)

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Sounds like a good start ... Good luck.

[Bruce]

I think RFC should take a vote.

[Alex]

In minutes or hours?

[Alex]

This is from the "Fuck all of you" guy!

You need more drugs, not less.  There's some more support.  I have
offered you solid advice before and you ignored it.

[Bruce]

Generally speaking, it's a good idea not to accept any advice from a
stalker.

[Alex]

Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary"  wrote in message news:5ECAAC5E...@att.net...
>
> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to
>> shake! :-(
>
> After 3 years of not working, yes, 12 hour shifts all of the
> sudden might be rough at first. But you'll get used to it.
>
> You should check with your doctor that recommended Seroquel
> before you quit taking it. Explain your new situation.
>
> Remember, you are a nurse and not a doctor.
>
> I wish you well with the new job unlike so many here that
> seem to waiting in glee just waiting for you to fail.
>
> ==
>
>   Not me.  I wish him well and hope it all goes well for him!
>

It appears that he will be working in a controlled environment.  I hope
that is true and, if's that's the case, I do wish him well.

[Alex]

Or a lobotomy.

[Alex]

If you manage to pull this off, SS will be higher than $1500/mo.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

He said his medication makes him foggy, maybe a different pill wouldn't
have the same side effects.

[John Kuthe]

Good! Assuming SocSec stays liquid! A Democratic SOCIALIST program!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

I'm a nurse, I was VERY wary about "antipsychotics" and was very pleasantly surprised how well it worked for me. ALL antipsychotics are like chemical lobotomies! :-(

John Kuthe...

[Dave Smith]

That is a problem with people with mental illness and the medications
they take. There are a number of unpleasant side effects. A common one
for manics is that it dulls them ..... too much for their liking. They
spend a lot of time zoned out and life loses that wonderful zip that
they enjoyed in their manic phase.

[GM]

So...you can be described as an "Uzi - toting lobotomized cannabis nurse"...???

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Greg

[Hank Rogers]

Or an ass sniffer.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 8:36:18 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> That is a problem with people with mental illness and the medications
> they take. There are a number of unpleasant side effects. A common one
> for manics is that it dulls them ..... too much for their liking. They
> spend a lot of time zoned out and life loses that wonderful zip that
> they enjoyed in their manic phase.
>

When I moved into my house my neighbor across the alley from me was bi-polar.
She had been in her depressive state for well over 5 years but when she was
on her high, she bought a fancy-schmancy electric stove and she doesn't cook.
She also bought the former owner of my house gas kitchen stove and it was
stored in my outbuilding. I went to her door and knocked and asked her when
she wanted to remove it and she was in pajamas.

The neighbor next door was highly surprised she answered my knock and wanted
to know what time I went to her house? It was around noon and he said "Oh,
she must have thought you were delivering Meals-on-Wheels." She NEVER went
outside unless it was 3:00 a.m. to put her garbage in the can.

Her niece took care of a lot of her business but would make her do simple
things like call and have someone come mow the yard and such things.

[GM]

I have had *tons* of bi - polar clients over the years (I am in "workforce development", meaning that I work to assist low - income/at - need peeps to get jobs)...the vast majority un - diagnosed. Tore my hair out for years, eventually I worked my way up to places that screen for behavioral health issues...

I've had many score exactly like Kuthe - intelligent, educated, once had good gigs. But if he does not "get a handle" on his behavioral health issues, he *will* never get a sustainable job, and most likely end up homeless/incarcerated. The best thing for John to do would be to apply for SSDI, because that is what he is going to end up having to do...he will end up losing his property...

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Greg

[jmcquown]

He *really* needs to talk to his doctor before stopping Seroquel. He
may need an adjustment in the dosage or a different medication.

Based on his many rants I'm not convinced he's been taking it as
prescribed in the first place. If so, it doesn't appear to be working.

As for the 12-hour shifts, he knew that before he took the job. He'll
find out if he can handle it soon enough. He shouldn't give up before
he starts.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I believe that, too, Dave. I think we've all witnessed some of his
manic phases. I doubt he was bothering to take his medication at the
time. He needs to talk to his doctor and tell him what the problem is.
There may be a better medication for him but only his doctor knows for sure.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:56 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Tell him. He's here.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:06:24 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 5/24/2020 8:54 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 7:22:58 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm gonna stop my Seroquel, and the Seroquel FOG is just too hard to shake! :-(
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> Maybe you just need a completely different medication??
>>
>He *really* needs to talk to his doctor before stopping Seroquel. He
>may need an adjustment in the dosage or a different medication.

[graham]

No! he's at work!

[Bruce]

He'll be back :)

[graham]

More's the pity!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 5/24/2020 8:54 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you just need a completely different medication??
> >
> He *really* needs to talk to his doctor before stopping Seroquel. He
> may need an adjustment in the dosage or a different medication.
>
> Based on his many rants I'm not convinced he's been taking it as
> prescribed in the first place. If so, it doesn't appear to be working.
>

He's stated he's stepped down his dose to half and I believe even how he's
reduced that amount. I don't care what degree someone has, they are
incapable of diagnosing and treating their own bipolar condition. This
is not a disease that can be 'cured' all he can hope for management.

>
> As for the 12-hour shifts, he knew that before he took the job. He'll
> find out if he can handle it soon enough. He shouldn't give up before
> he starts.
>
> Jill
>

I'll admit a 12-hour shift is a shock to the body but once you get into the
rhythm of it the time does pass quickly and NO PROBLEM sleeping once you get
home! The hardest part for him will be in a working environment and not
flopping on the couch or heading to the refrigerator whenever you please.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 25 May 2020 12:40:16 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2020 8:54 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >
>> > Maybe you just need a completely different medication??
>> >
>> He *really* needs to talk to his doctor before stopping Seroquel. He
>> may need an adjustment in the dosage or a different medication.
>>
>> Based on his many rants I'm not convinced he's been taking it as
>> prescribed in the first place. If so, it doesn't appear to be working.
>>
>He's stated he's stepped down his dose to half and I believe even how he's
>reduced that amount. I don't care what degree someone has, they are
>incapable of diagnosing and treating their own bipolar condition. This
>is not a disease that can be 'cured' all he can hope for management.

Like I said, I suggest the RFC council decide what medication and how
much of it John will take. This isn't something to take any risks
with.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 2:52:22 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Like I said, I suggest the RFC council decide what medication and how
> much of it John will take. This isn't something to take any risks
> with.
>

No, it's not. He needs to talk with his doctor and *possibly* explore another
medication and not decide what's best for him. He doesn't have the knowledge
to make that decision but we can observe from his postings he's not on an even
keel.

[Bruce]

Yes, I think Talk to your doctor is the only good advice.

[Hank Rogers]

But it gives you lots of butt sniffing opportunities.