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Taxed and Spent

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Dec 30, 2020, 11:29:28 AM12/30/20
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When did you live in Malta and for how long?

What Maltese foods did you like and now miss?

I have Pastizzi nailed, wondering what else I should try.

Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 12:06:46 PM12/30/20
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"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:rsi9t2$iag$1...@dont-email.me...

When did you live in Malta and for how long?

What Maltese foods did you like and now miss?

I have Pastizzi nailed, wondering what else I should try.

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LOL :))))

Oh we were there for 4 years:))))))

Heck, It is hard to remember:)) I wish ask them what they can remember:))

LOL

Steve Genital Wertz

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Dec 30, 2020, 12:09:00 PM12/30/20
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On 12/30/2020 12:06 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> I wish ask them what they can remember:))
>
>   LOL
>
IDIOT!

Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 12:41:54 PM12/30/20
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"Steve Genital Wertz" wrote in message news:rsic72$pr6$1...@gioia.aioe.org...

On 12/30/2020 12:06 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> I wish ask them what they can remember:))
>
> Â LOL
>
IDIOT!

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LOL the only idiot here is YOU!!! Not my fault the only place you have
lived is where you are !!!!

Not everyone is like you! Some of us have lived in many place around the
world:)))

Not just the shit hole you know!!!



Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 1:03:21 PM12/30/20
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"Ophelia" wrote in message news:i53qd0...@mid.individual.net...
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We lived in Zabber Road, Paola:))))


Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 1:06:06 PM12/30/20
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"Ophelia" wrote in message news:i53tn2...@mid.individual.net...
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Ooops Zabbar Road :))))



Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 1:09:12 PM12/30/20
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"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:rsi9t2$iag$1...@dont-email.me...

When did you live in Malta and for how long?

What Maltese foods did you like and now miss?

I have Pastizzi nailed, wondering what else I should try.

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Not sure:) We were there for 4 years:)

Hmmm. that is a hard one. I just cooked for the family. what I always
cooked

We didn't eat out a lot, or the kids did at least:))

Steve Genital Wertz

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Dec 30, 2020, 2:05:03 PM12/30/20
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On 12/30/2020 1:05 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>  Ooops Zabbar Road :))))
>
IDIOT!

Steve Genital Wertz

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Dec 30, 2020, 2:05:30 PM12/30/20
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On 12/30/2020 1:09 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>  We didn't eat out a lot, or the kids did at least:))
>
IDIOT!

Ophelia

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Dec 30, 2020, 2:32:09 PM12/30/20
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"Steve Genital Wertz" wrote in message news:rsij1i$cht$2...@gioia.aioe.org...

On 12/30/2020 1:09 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> Â We didn't eat out a lot, or the kids did at least:))
>
IDIOT!

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LOLOLOL

Gary

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Dec 31, 2020, 10:50:56 AM12/31/20
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Ophelia wrote:
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> We didn't eat out a lot,

When I was growing up, we never went out to eat unless with company.
Then, it was always to Howard Johnson. The food there was OK but nothing
to brag about. Always seemed kinda sterile food to me.

Never even ordered a pizza back then. Pizza was always that boxed mix
from a grocery store. No real seafood either - fish was always those
frozen fish sticks. Steaks were always very thin and cooked to well done
and like shoe leather.

I never got good food until I moved out on my own.
This is why I loved McDonalds hamburgers so much.
I used my allowance once a week to go there.



Ophelia

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Dec 31, 2020, 11:53:15 AM12/31/20
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"Gary" wrote in message news:rsks0r$3cl$3...@dont-email.me...
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At least you did find something you really enjoyed:)))

Cindy Hamilton

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Dec 31, 2020, 12:26:20 PM12/31/20
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:50:56 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > We didn't eat out a lot,
> When I was growing up, we never went out to eat unless with company.
> Then, it was always to Howard Johnson. The food there was OK but nothing
> to brag about. Always seemed kinda sterile food to me.

Once or twice a year my mother took me to a nice restaurant. She
always gave me the fruit out of her Rob Roy.

> Never even ordered a pizza back then. Pizza was always that boxed mix
> from a grocery store. No real seafood either - fish was always those
> frozen fish sticks. Steaks were always very thin and cooked to well done
> and like shoe leather.

We ordered pizza, and the place also had stuff like fried shrimp, which
we'd get occasionally.

> I never got good food until I moved out on my own.
> This is why I loved McDonalds hamburgers so much.
> I used my allowance once a week to go there.

McDonald's was too far away until my posse and I were driving age.
I spent my allowance at a place that was like White Castle.

Cindy Hamilton

Master Bruce

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Dec 31, 2020, 12:48:03 PM12/31/20
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If I'd grown up eating like you, I might also have thought McDonalds
is fantastic. Apart from the animal torture, of course, but you don't
mind that.

Sheldon Martin

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Dec 31, 2020, 1:22:15 PM12/31/20
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You call McDs Mystery Meat good food. DUH
You lived in a shit neighhood. Where I lived there were candy stores
that served great food at the counter, soups, sandwiches and burgers.

Growing up we ate out on average twice a week and the food was
excellent and very reasonably priced.
The Chinese restaurant served a full meal, all the hot tea you can
drink, a large bowl of white rice, Wonton Soup w/crispy noodles, Chow
mein, Egg Roll, Fly Lice, Ice Cream for dessert, Fortune Cookies... a
full meal with large portions, enough to bring some home... this
served at a table with a real linen table cloth and real linen
napkins, all for 35в and a customary 10в tip. I would treat my mom to
a Chinks lunch with my newpaper delivery money. This was the third
store from the corner of the block where we lived. The second store
in from the corner was an Italian restorant/pizzaria... a large pie
18", 8 slices, cost 75в, individual slices cost 15в, excellent pizza,
better than anything you can buy today at those chain pizza joints.
The corner store was called a Pork Store, a real butcher shop, served
great Cold Cut Heros... an 8 incher 25в. A photo of that corner with
those three stores was often featured in NY newspaper magazine
sections. This was in Brooklyn, 1950s. There was no McDs or any fast
food joints. Sid's Luncheonette served great burgers and fries. And
naturally there were Kosher Delis all over Brooklyn, more than you
could count, not to mention the Appys everywhere, and lots of street
venders selling all kinds of food... and I could ride my bike ten
minutes to Sheepshead Bay, the seafood capital of the world.

Leo

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Dec 31, 2020, 11:40:37 PM12/31/20
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On 2020 Dec 31, , Master Bruce wrote
(in article<bj3suft3r1236v9vr...@4ax.com>):

> If I'd grown up eating like you, I might also have thought McDonalds
> is fantastic. Apart from the animal torture, of course, but you don't
> mind that.

How old were you when the pescatarian revelation occurred. By the way, Happy
New Year! I have three and a half hours to go.


Master Bruce

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Dec 31, 2020, 11:47:36 PM12/31/20
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:40:29 -0800, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Happy New Year to you too, soon! The First Pescatarian Revelation came
to me when I was around 27. I remember the yellow cans of Moroccan
sardines well.

Gary

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Jan 1, 2021, 9:05:55 AM1/1/21
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> When I was growing up, we never went out to eat unless with company.
>> Then, it was always to Howard Johnson. The food there was OK but nothing
>> to brag about. Always seemed kinda sterile food to me.
>
> Once or twice a year my mother took me to a nice restaurant. She
> always gave me the fruit out of her Rob Roy.

One exception to what I said:
One time, my father took me (only) to a steak house.

Those steaks were finished in the oven on a metal oval plate and served
on the same. As the waitress served these steaks, they were still
sizzling loudly as she brought them out.

Very good steaks but I'll bet no restaurant would serve them that way
now. You could easily burn your hand on the plate if not careful.



Gary

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Jan 1, 2021, 9:06:43 AM1/1/21
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Master Bruce wrote:
> If I'd grown up eating like you, I might also have thought McDonalds
> is fantastic. Apart from the animal torture, of course, but you don't
> mind that.

I don't mind as long as someone else does all the dirty work. Head in
Sand approach to meat.

I tried and didn't like hunting and killing wild animals.
If I raised domestic animals, they would all become pets. Dammit.



Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 1, 2021, 9:20:07 AM1/1/21
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I think you're wrong. Our favorite Thai place serves beef on a sizzling
platter, and we know of a Chinese restaurant that serves Subgum
Wor Bar on a sizzling plate.

Then there's this:

<https://www.blackrockrestaurants.com/>

And this:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_barbecue>

Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown

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Jan 1, 2021, 9:43:24 AM1/1/21
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It's been a while since I went to a Mexican restaurant but it wasn't all
that long ago some places were serving the fixings for fajitas on a
sizzling hot cast iron skillet. Similar to this:

https://tinyurl.com/yab83tw7

Jill

Dave Smith

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Jan 1, 2021, 10:21:39 AM1/1/21
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On 2021-01-01 9:05 a.m., Gary wrote:
ys gave me the fruit out of her Rob Roy.
>
> One exception to what I said:
> One time, my father took me (only) to a steak house.
>
> Those steaks were finished in the oven on a metal oval plate and served
> on the same. As the waitress served these steaks, they were still
> sizzling loudly as she brought them out.
>
> Very good steaks but I'll bet no restaurant would serve them that way
> now. You could easily burn your hand on the plate if not careful.
>

I have seen it in steak houses within the last few years, and more
recently with Chinese and Thai restaurants. It's unfortunate that we
live in a litigation prone society with courts that view stupidity as a
form of victimization.




Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 1, 2021, 11:22:45 AM1/1/21
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I'd not want my steak on a sizzling plate. Starts out medium rare and
end up well done as you eat.

I do recall watching a server in a steakhouse with a plated steak that
had a temperature probe. She stood watching it and when the proper temp
was hit she took off to the table.

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 1, 2021, 11:51:27 AM1/1/21
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I agree with you. That is all for show. Have they never heard of the
concept of resting meat?

I remember when the Mexican restaurants would always bring out plates
with the server using a big towel or something to carry it by the edge.
"Be careful, the plate is very hot!". I would put my hand near the
plate and often could tell it was not so hot. I would just grab the
plate and say "what do you mean - its not hot at all!".



Dave Smith

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Jan 1, 2021, 11:58:41 AM1/1/21
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It is a matter of spectacle for some people, and they want to chow down
on their meat as soon is it comes off the heat. I prefer to let mine
rest for a while.

jmcquown

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Jan 1, 2021, 1:58:47 PM1/1/21
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On 1/1/2021 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I prefer to let my meat rest for a while.
>
Only because your arm gets tired.

Master Bruce

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:00:17 PM1/1/21
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You'd have to let all your American customers sign a form that the
restaurant doesn't have to pay damages for burn wounds if they touch
the hot plate. Even if they do it accidentally.

Master Bruce

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:01:25 PM1/1/21
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 11:22:38 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/1/2021 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-01-01 9:05 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> ys gave me the fruit out of her Rob Roy.
>>>
>>> One exception to what I said:
>>> One time, my father took me (only) to a steak house.
>>>
>>> Those steaks were finished in the oven on a metal oval plate and
>>> served on the same. As the waitress served these steaks, they were
>>> still sizzling loudly as she brought them out.
>>>
>>> Very good steaks but I'll bet no restaurant would serve them that way
>>> now. You could easily burn your hand on the plate if not careful.
>>>
>>
>> I have seen it in steak houses within the last few years, and more
>> recently with Chinese and Thai restaurants.  It's unfortunate that we
>> live in a litigation prone society with courts that view stupidity as a
>> form of victimization.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>I'd not want my steak on a sizzling plate. Starts out medium rare and
>end up well done as you eat.

Maybe it starts out rare and when the plate stops sizzling, it's
perfectly medium rare.

Master Bruce

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:02:05 PM1/1/21
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 08:51:21 -0800, Taxed and Spent
<nospam...@nonospam.com> wrote:

>On 1/1/2021 8:22 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/1/2021 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I have seen it in steak houses within the last few years, and more
>>> recently with Chinese and Thai restaurants.  It's unfortunate that we
>>> live in a litigation prone society with courts that view stupidity as a
>>> form of victimization.
>>>
>> I'd not want my steak on a sizzling plate. Starts out medium rare and
>> end up well done as you eat.
>>
>> I do recall watching a server in a steakhouse with a plated steak that
>> had a temperature probe. She stood watching it and when the proper temp
>> was hit she took off to the table.
>>
>I agree with you. That is all for show. Have they never heard of the
>concept of resting meat?

Is that when one sits down?

dsi1

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:20:53 PM1/1/21
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I like the sizzle. The sizzle is good. Spectacle is good. Sell the sizzle, not the steak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJZubMSTPfg

Hank Rogers

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:42:57 PM1/1/21
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You're getting excited master.


Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 1, 2021, 4:08:48 PM1/1/21
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I'd prefer to eat the steak than the sizzle.

Cindy Hamilton

songbird

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Jan 1, 2021, 5:22:06 PM1/1/21
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Gary wrote:
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> Very good steaks but I'll bet no restaurant would serve them that way
> now. You could easily burn your hand on the plate if not careful.

there is (or perhaps was now) a chain of restaurants in MI called
Branns which has a sizzling steak like that. we go a few times a
year.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 1, 2021, 5:22:12 PM1/1/21
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dsi1 wrote:
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> I like the sizzle. The sizzle is good. Spectacle is good. Sell the sizzle, not the steak.

sizzling rice soup is good eats. :)


songbird

dsi1

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Jan 1, 2021, 6:52:47 PM1/1/21
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I've never had that dish. I believe that I might have heard it being served in Chinese restaurants. It's a heck of a noisy dish!
A lot of stuff is sold by the sizzle - the product might be ordinary stuff like a phone, or coffee, or a car but with an iPhone, or a Starbuck's coffee, or a Ferrari, you're mostly buying a dream of being smarter, richer, or more desirable. A sizzling steak might not be better than a regular steak but I'll always believe that it is.

cshenk

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Jan 1, 2021, 8:10:38 PM1/1/21
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You get them here like that. Mi Casita (Gary, Rosemont and VB BLVD,
technically Bonney Road)


jmcquown

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Jan 1, 2021, 8:39:19 PM1/1/21
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Somehow I don't think Gary is going to go there. He'll have to take
posters' word for it sizzling hot metal plates for certain types of food
haven't fallen by the wayside.

Jill

cshenk

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Jan 1, 2021, 9:52:46 PM1/1/21
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Yeah, if it's not walking distance from the ocean, he doesn't go there.
This one is 11 miles from there so 10.5 too far away (grin).

Ophelia

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Jan 2, 2021, 6:36:55 AM1/2/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:nvi4ch-...@anthive.com...
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You need to enlighten me on that one:))

songbird

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:02:00 AM1/3/21
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Ophelia wrote:

...sizzling rice soup...

> You need to enlighten me on that one:))

i've never made it (i'm not much into hot oil frying these days).

the basic ingredients from what i've had is your everyday
egg drop soup, some fresh cut scallions to garnish. then as you
are serving it you put some very hot oil fried plain rice in it
while the oil is still hot enough to cause it to sizzle. there's
some techniques to all of that which i've never done so i can't
say how to do it without making a mess or burning myself. which
i'd probably manage to do. :)

hmm, probably another reason why i don't cook like this often. :)

the rice is flattened into a slab perhaps 2cm thick or so and
then fried. i'd guess peanut oil.

perhaps others have done this and can fill it in more. :)


songbird

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 3, 2021, 6:43:59 AM1/3/21
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I make chicken egg drop soup often, without rice, I like it with
crispy Chinese noodles... I really don't like any soup with rice, in
fact I don't much care for rice dishes, I substitute orzo, or fine egg
noodles broken to rice size. I also like egg noodles that are in
small flat squares, sold in the Jewish foods section.

Ophelia

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Jan 3, 2021, 6:46:27 AM1/3/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:5q58ch-...@anthive.com...
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Interesting, thanks:) Btw I have never made 'egg drop soup' so perhaps
you might enlighten me on that too:)))


Gary

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Jan 3, 2021, 9:12:56 AM1/3/21
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jmcquown wrote:
> Somehow I don't think Gary is going to go there. He'll have to take
> posters' word for it sizzling hot metal plates for certain types of food
> haven't fallen by the wayside.

You've got that right. It was a novelty when I was 12 years old that one
time but nothing to look for again. It's just a restaurant gimmick.

When I want a good steak, it will be at home.





Gary

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Jan 3, 2021, 9:13:18 AM1/3/21
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songbird wrote:
> the rice is flattened into a slab perhaps 2cm thick or so and
> then fried. i'd guess peanut oil.
>
> perhaps others have done this and can fill it in more. :)

Cooked in water, cooled then fried as you said above.
That's a chef Bobby Flay signature addition and he wins many cooking
contest with it.



Ophelia

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:49:05 AM1/3/21
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"Gary" wrote in message news:rssjd3$nqm$8...@dont-email.me...
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Same here:) When we want steak ... I cook them:)))))




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