OT I LIKE being poor!

[John Kuthe]

Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)

John Kuthe....

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 12:44:52 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
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> Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)
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> John Kuthe....
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You still gotta pay property taxes unless you want a lien on your house.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 16 May 2020 John Kuthe wrote:
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>Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)

If you own real estate you are not poor and you WILL pay property
taxes and all sorts of insurance. Plus you will owe the IRS taxes for
all your rental income.
Kootchie is very poor in the area of intellect. Had he a functioning
brain he'd stave off that $100,000.00+ clay roof... he will need that
money to stave of being homeless.

[Dave Smith]

If they are renting a portion of the rent goes to property tax.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

He's got to actually send them the money and we know how well he is doing
be up to date and paying taxes.

[Hank Rogers]

John Kuthe wrote:
> Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)
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> John Kuthe....
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You won't be poor long. Soon, some nursing agency will definitely
snap you up and pay a very handsome wage for your services.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

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[John Kuthe]

Yep, Real Property taxes on the house and Personal Property taxes on each car. I know that, it's kinda immoral but our corrupt Govt insists!

The Govt takes every dollar we earn, spend and on what we own after we spend it! How corrupt is that? :-( And all because our White Supremacist ancestors STOLE all this land "fair and square" from the First Americans! Ask any IF you can find any surviving! Believe me, the U.S. Government hopes they will all die off! :-(

John Kuthe...

[GM]

You are REALLY becoming unhinged...maybe we'll have to call down there and do this aka put you in the NUT HOUSE:

https://dmh.mo.gov/mental-illness/help/civil

"For some persons, a mental disorder or a mental illness leaves them unable to make decisions about caring for their basic human needs such as food, shelter, and medical care. A few people who are experiencing a mental disorder or a mental illness may be in danger of hurting themselves or others. This can be a very confusing and frightening experience for them as well as for their families and friends. With appropriate evaluation, treatment, and continued care, most people with mental illness can return to their normal lives.

Similarly, individuals who are misusing alcohol or drugs may be unable to make decisions about caring for their basic human needs such as food, shelter, and medical care. Alcohol or drug misuse may also place a person in danger of hurting themselves or others.

As with most types of medical evaluation and treatment, people may decide to participate voluntarily, may refuse to participate or may choose alternatives to the recommendations.

For some people, the symptoms of a mental disorder or a mental illness or the effects of alcohol or drug misuse compromise their cognitive or reasoning ability, and they are left unable to understand sufficient information to make decisions about necessary and appropriate medical treatment.

Missouri Statutes, Chapter 632 RSMo, provide the statutory authority to allow involuntary treatment under certain conditions with appropriate due process. This process is called Civil Involuntary Detention.

Who can initiate a Civil Involuntary Detention?
If the situation is an emergency, what do I do?
If the situation is not an emergency, what do I do?
How long will a person be detained, evaluated and treated?
What happens in court?
Will I be asked to testify in court?
Does Missouri have an outpatient commitment law?
Do Missouri statutes include "gravely disabled" criteria?
Are there any other laws that can be used to help persons who are incapacitated by mental illness?
Does a person have to be homicidal or suicidal before he or she is able to be civilly detained?

Who can initiate a Civil Involuntary Detention?
Any adult person may file an application for detention, evaluation, and treatment with the probate division of the circuit court where the person may be found.

Law Enforcement personnel, under their police power authority, may detain a person believed to be imminently harmful due to a mental disorder or substance use disorder and transport the person to an appropriate facility for evaluation for admission.

Staff of the Access Crisis Intervention (ACI) system, the 24-hour crisis hotline, can also assist with the civil involuntary detention process. By calling the toll-free 24-hour ACI crisis number, the caller will be able to speak to a mental health worker who will evaluate the current situation and assist with the appropriate response.

Facilities that are recognized by the Department of Mental Health to provide civil involuntary detention services have mental health professionals who are designated and approved to initiate on-site civil involuntary detention for individuals in need of emergency evaluation and treatment. These professionals may be psychiatrists, licensed physicians, psychiatric residents, psychologists, nurses or social workers, licensed professional counselors or a qualified addiction professional.

If the situation is an emergency, what do I do?
If possible and safe to do so, get the person to the emergency room of a hospital that treats persons with mental disorders.

If the person is currently receiving mental health treatment, call the person responsible for the treatment and that person should provide you with an emergency plan and assist with crisis intervention.

Call the police or sheriff; tell them about the situation and explain why it is an emergency. If appropriate to do so, the law enforcement officer may take the person into custody and transport the person to an appropriate facility.

If the situation is not an immediate emergency, what do I do?
If the person is currently receiving mental health treatment, call the person providing the treatment. That person should assist you.

Call the toll-free 24-hour Access Crisis Intervention (ACI) 24-hour crisis hotline. You will be able to speak to a mental health worker who will evaluate the current situation and assist you with the appropriate response.

If you have sufficient information that the person has a mental disorder and presents a likelihood of harm, you may petition the Probate Court for civil detention.

How long will a person be detained, evaluated and treated?
The initial period is for up to 96 hours, excluding weekends and certain holidays. After the initial period, the person's treating physician and treatment team will decide if further detention, evaluation, and treatment are needed. If so, the treating psychiatrist and treatment team may initiate a court hearing for the appropriate time frame, 21 days, 90 days, or one year for mental health treatment and 30 or 90 days for alcohol or drug treatment.

What happens in court?
If an application for 96 hours is presented to the Probate Division of the Circuit Court, the judge will decide whether to order the person detained, evaluated, and treated in an appropriate facility for up to 96 hours.

If a petition is filed for commitment beyond the initial 96-hour period, a formal hearing will be held in the court to hear facts supporting the petition. During this hearing the person against whom the petition is filed will be represented by an attorney; if the person cannot afford an attorney, the court will appoint one. The judge will hear the evidence and make the final decision as to whether the person will be committed for an additional period.

Will I be asked to testify in court?
If you have observed recent behavior of a person that supports the allegation in the petition, you will usually be asked to testify. Sometimes family members or friends are the only persons who have witnessed harmful behavior.

Does Missouri have an outpatient commitment law?
Missouri has provisions for releasing a person from a mental health facility to outpatient commitment. These statutory provisions allow for a mental health facility to set conditions for a person's release and provides authority to return a person to a mental health facility if the conditions are not met.

Do Missouri statutes include "gravely disabled" criteria?
Yes. The criteria that a person must be mentally disordered and, as a result, present harm to self or others includes a standard that a person may be harmful if, as a result or an impairment, he or she is unable to make decisions regarding hospitalization or treatment as evidenced by not providing for basic necessities of food, clothing, shelter, safety, or medical care.

Are there any other laws that can be used to help persons who are incapacitated by mental illness?
Yes. If a person continues to be unable to make basic decisions because of an impairment, guardianship should be considered. This legal process places the personal decision making in the hands of another person who is legally able to authorize needed services. This law has provisions for limited guardianship that allows the guardian to only have decision-making powers under certain conditions.

Does a person have to be homicidal or suicidal before he or she is able to be civilly detained?
No. Verbal threats to do harm are sufficient, or even placing a person in fear of harm is sufficient. The standard is "a likelihood of serious physical harm to self or others." Past patterns of behavior that have historically have resulted in harm may also be considered..."

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[S Viemeister]

And in most places, sales tax.

[John Kuthe]

Yep, tax us on what we spend! Sales tax! :-(

And all because our Govt is corrupt and addicted to MONEY!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Wow! For someone who works two jobs, you have an enormous amount of free time, Where do you go to copy/paste all this crap?

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

You should do something about it! You should attack and force them
to negotiate. Otherwise, you are just a poor unemployed cannabis
nurse sitting in a flophouse in da Loo, whining. Did the police
take your UZI away?

What would your daddy think? I bet he would SHIT.

[Hank Rogers]

Don't forget OIL. They want everyone to burn gasoline.

Electricity is not allowed for many.

no nissan leafs or electric shit for many of us that don't live in
da Loo.

SAVE US .... ATTACK NOW. WE WANT TO BE FREE TO USE ELECTRIC APPLIANCES!

[GM]

Took me about 75 seconds...on this thang called "the internets"...a "mere bagatelle" as "they" say...

:-P

--
Best
Greg

[Alex]

John Kuthe wrote:
> Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)
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> John Kuthe....

You didn't pay them when you were "RICH!!!".  What changed?

[Alex]

All of the rent goes to income tax.  Property tax is paid from the proceeds.

[Alex]

You don't think those cops that hauled you out in handcuffs were working
for free, right?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 1:44:52 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)
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> John Kuthe....

You're not poor. Your idea of poverty is obviously a white man's
conception of what it means to be poor.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
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> Poor people pay no TAXES! :-)
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> John Kuthe....

You're not poor, John. You own a house.
Lack of job and available cash alone doesn't define the word.

Your net worth is not just about your dwindling
bank account and your rising Discover Card balance.