Entemann's

[Julie Bove]

Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee cakes
years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were known
to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand. Once
in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
They're not even fresh!!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

They're still available in all the stores here.

[penm...@aol.com]

Entenmann's was sold about 2-3 years ago... products are awful now.
I used to live less than 1/2 mile from their plant... their company
store had great values, every item $1.

[U.S. Janet B.]

That's how every baking plant gets rid of the unsold more than a day
old stuff that is brought back -- everything $1. We have a baking
plant here that does the same.
People swarm for that stuff.
Janet US

[Gary]

penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know what happened to this brand?

> Entenmann's was sold about 2-3 years ago... products are awful now.

Nonsense. Entenmann's is still sold and products are better than
most pastry you can buy - even fresh daily baked in your store's
bakery.

You just ate Drake's/Little Debbie stuff and you are dissing
Entenmenns's? nonsense.

[Sqwerts]

On 9/19/2017 8:53 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I would buy on of their coffee cakes/streudels

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
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[m...@privacy.net]

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

Easily available here, and JUST as good as they always were.

[m...@privacy.net]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:49:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

ABOUT the claim of them being sold recently..

The pharmaceutical company Warner-Lambert purchased Entenmann's in
1978, and then sold it to General Foods in 1982. General Foods merged
with Kraft in 1990. Kraft sold its bakery business to CPC
International (later Bestfoods). Bestfoods was purchased by Unilever
in 2000, which sold its baking division to George Weston, a Canadian
baked goods and supermarket business, the next year. Weston sold its
United States interests including Entemann's in 2008 to Mexican
conglomerate Grupo Bimbo.[3] Other Bimbo Bakeries USA holdings include
companies such as Thomas', Brownberry, Boboli, Arnold, Oroweat,
Freihofer’s, and Stroehmann.[5]

On March 27, 2014, it was reported that Entenmann's was ceasing baking
operations at the Bay Shore, New York location in July 2014. Other
operations, such as sales, the store and distribution are to continue.

[Boron]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:49:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Thomas', Entenmann's and Bimbo all have outlets in this part of NJ.

Entenmann's started going downhill in the late 70s. They were wondrous
before then, but once there was a corporate sell off, that was it.
From Wiki:

[Julie Bove]

<penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Thanks.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:49:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Restaurants 'swarm' for it too, they are the first ones there evey AM.

[U.S. Janet B.]

You live in such an odd place. In my community the bakers deliver
direct to the restaurants first thing in the a.m. The stuff is still
warm. Does everyone rip everyone else off where you are?
i have no desire to visit New York. It sounds horrible.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

Many years ago my mom bought things from (I think it was) the Wonder
Bread thrift store. Day old stuff, dirt cheap.

Jill

[Jim Macey]

We get the day-old at our Sara Lee outlet. Entemann's, Sara Lee, Thomas'
English Muffins, and a host of other famous names are owned by Grupo
Bimbo, out of Mexico City. I'd guess their market share is about a third
of the US market, at minimum.

[jmcquown]

On 9/19/2017 10:44 AM, l not -l wrote:

> If I were the one with this dilemma, I'd visit the Entemann's
> website, https://www.entenmanns.com/en, especially their store
> locator page, which asks what product you want and your zipcode.
> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/store-locator
>
Excellent suggestion.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 9/19/2017 10:53 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:44:46 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
>> If I were the one with this dilemma, I'd visit the Entemann's
>> website, https://www.entenmanns.com/en, especially their store
>> locator page, which asks what product you want and your zipcode.
>> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/store-locator
>

> I checked a few zip codes across the country and you either have a
> mostly full selection, just the donuts, or nothing at all. I'm in the
> later category. I would buy on of their coffee cakes/streudels if
> they had them here (but they don't, so I won't).
>
> -sw
>
I checked my zip code (expanded the search to 20 miles). According to
the Store Locator I can get the Crumb Coffee Cake at Bi-Lo. That's way
the heck over by Parris Island (Marine Corps Recruiting Station). The
only place I can buy the Cheese Filled Crumb Coffee Cake is at Piggly
Wiggly.

However, if I want the Cinnamon Swirl Buns, they have them at Publix.
Ditto the All Butter Loaf Cake and Raspberry Danish. :)

Walmart is also listed for some of the items. But they either don't
deliver to the "new" Walmart on Lady's Island yet or they have failed to
update the Store Locator web search to include deliveries there.

Regardless, I won't be looking for Entenmann's products. It was fun to
look around, though! :)

Jill
Jill

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:37:13p, Julie Bove told us...

A full range of Entemann products is carried by almost every
supermarket in the Phoenix area, including the donuts. I like all
their products except for the donuts. Having said that, I have never
liked pre-packaged/boxed donuts. The chocolate coating on their donuts
taste like wax and they're always dry. If I want donuts I buy them
fresh at a donut shop. Fresh donuts from a donut shop will cost you
more than $4 for 6 of them.

Just as an aside, Julie, it seems from your many posts that you have
trouble finding many food prodicts where you live. When we lived
further out in the desert we had to drive anywhere from 30 to 40 miles
to go to a supermarket. Now that we live in the city there's
practically nothing I have trouble finding.

--

~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

**********************************************************

Wayne Boatwright

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/19/2017 10:53 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:44:46 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
>> If I were the one with this dilemma, I'd visit the Entemann's
>> website, https://www.entenmanns.com/en, especially their store
>> locator page, which asks what product you want and your zipcode.
>> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/store-locator
>
> I checked a few zip codes across the country and you either have a
> mostly full selection, just the donuts, or nothing at all. I'm in the
> later category. I would buy on of their coffee cakes/streudels if
> they had them here (but they don't, so I won't).
>
> -sw
>

You've not missed much.

Many years ago Entemanns was decent but I'd no longer bother with the
soggy strudels.

[Ed Pawlowski]

No. they are not. Evidently there are no good bakeries near you.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:10:50 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
<waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:37:13p, Julie Bove told us...
>
>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the
>> coffee cakes years ago. I never liked them but everyone else
>> seemed to. People were known to eat a whole box all by themselves.
>> But now? I rarely see the brand. Once in a while I see donuts.
>> They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way. They're not even
>> fresh!!
>>
>
>A full range of Entemann products is carried by almost every
>supermarket in the Phoenix area, including the donuts. I like all
>their products except for the donuts. Having said that, I have never
>liked pre-packaged/boxed donuts. The chocolate coating on their donuts
>taste like wax and they're always dry.

I think I know why you don't like their donuts. Here are the
ingredients for Entenmann Rich Frosted Donuts:

"Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Shortening (Soybean, Cottonseed),
Sugar, Unbleached Enriched Wheat Flour (Flour, Malted Barley Flour,
Reduced Iron, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate (B1), Riboflavin (B2), Folic
Acid), Water, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Nonfat Milk, Soy Flour,
Egg Yolks, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium
Aluminum Phosphate), Natural & Artificial Flavors, High Fructose Corn
Syrup, Dextrose, Pregelatinized Wheat Starch, Corn Syrup, Salt, Soy
Lecithin, Sorbitan Monostearate, Polysorbate 60, Mono- And
Diglycerides, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Cellulose Gum, Guar
Gum, Tapioca Dextrin, Xanthan Gum, Karaya Gum, Beta Carotene (Color),
Caramel Color."

Yo mama!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:53:15 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>

wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:44:46 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
>> If I were the one with this dilemma, I'd visit the Entemann's
>> website, https://www.entenmanns.com/en, especially their store
>> locator page, which asks what product you want and your zipcode.
>> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/store-locator
>
>I checked a few zip codes across the country and you either have a
>mostly full selection, just the donuts, or nothing at all. I'm in the
>later category. I would buy on of their coffee cakes/streudels if
>they had them here (but they don't, so I won't).

I wouldn't buy their strudels if I were you:

Wheat Flour, Water, Pineapple, Sugar, Palm Oil, Neufchatel Cheese
(Pasteurized Nonfat Milk and Milkfat, Cheese Culture, Salt, Carob Bean
Gum), High Fructose Corn Syrup, Milk, Eggs, Modified Cornstarch,
Soybean Oil, Salt, Lemon Puree, Milk Protein Concentrate, Natural &
Artificial Flavors, Lactic Acid, Mono- and Diglycerides, Preservatives
(Potassium Sorbate, Sorbic Acid, Sodium Propionate), Citric Acid,
Artificial Color, Soy Lecithin, Xanthan Gum, Vitamin A Palmitate,
Caramel Color, Soy Protein, Beta Carotene (Color).

But then again, maybe you can put them in the fuel tank of your car.
You might be driving faster than ever!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:58:39 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:

That's a good deal. If you had to buy all those chemicals separately,
you'd be paying a lot more.

[pltrgyst]

On 9/19/17 3:39 PM, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>
> Easily available here, and JUST as good as they always were.

They were never fresh, and like Duncan Donuts, they're gone way downhill
over the years. Thsee days, the chocolate frosting on the
chocolate-covered donuts tastes like half plastic, half wax.

-- Larry

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Tue 19 Sep 2017 07:08:15p, pltrgyst told us...

I think a lot depends on where you live and where the bakery plants are
located. As far as Duncan Donuts, here in Phoenix they remodeled all
of their stores coincided with the poor quality of their products. I
tried two of their new stores after they opened and would never go
back.

As far as Entemanns is concerned, most all of their products here in
Phoenix are as good as they ever were. IMO their donuts wever any
good, and I totally agree about their chocolate frosting, and tahe
docnuts were always dry and stale.

[m...@privacy.net]

I've been getting their products for at least 40 years, AND my taste
buds are JUST as good as THEY used to be, and no matter WHO owns them,
they're using the same recipe and ingredients, and the products are
JUST FINE.

If YOU feel differnetly, YOU changed, NOT them.

[Bruce]

Some of the ingredients they're using today were not even invented yet
40 years ago.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 3:49:56 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> That's a good deal. If you had to buy all those chemicals separately,
> you'd be paying a lot more.

This is why I never read the ingredients in my favorite things. Your body has a lot more going on chemically than any dopey snack cake. The chemicals in your body has a profound effect on everything it does. It can cause you to grow or not grow, it has serious effects on your mood and outlook of life itself. The chemicals in snack cakes are nothing. Mostly your analysis in this matter is specious.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:31:09 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

The whole idea that the cheap ass, money grabbing food industry feeds
us science projects is revolting. Nobody needs that stuff and it's
stupid to eat it.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 10:07:08 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> The whole idea that the cheap ass, money grabbing food industry feeds
> us science projects is revolting. Nobody needs that stuff and it's
> stupid to eat it.

It's stupid to eat a snack cake if you're trying to lose some weight. The bad stuff in these things don't have science project names. It's pretty simple really - fats and sugars. OTOH, if you're starving to death, fats and sugars could save your life.

As far as chemical factories goes, the human body is producing thousands of complex compounds every second. We don't know the effect most of these compounds have on our bodies, and perhaps we never will.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:10:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 10:07:08 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> The whole idea that the cheap ass, money grabbing food industry feeds
>> us science projects is revolting. Nobody needs that stuff and it's
>> stupid to eat it.
>
>It's stupid to eat a snack cake if you're trying to lose some weight. The bad stuff in these things don't have science project names. It's pretty simple really - fats and sugars. OTOH, if you're starving to death, fats and sugars could save your life.

If you look at the ingredient list, there's a lot more in there than
just fats and sugars.

>As far as chemical factories goes, the human body is producing thousands of complex compounds every second. We don't know the effect most of these compounds have on our bodies, and perhaps we never will.

The fact that we don't know much yet, is even more reason not to eat
crazy science projects.

[Cindy Hamilton]

"Just as good as they always were" might be true, since 0 = 0.

That said, I used to love Entenmann's until we got a superlative
bakery.

Cindy Hamilton

[Julie Bove]

"pltrgyst" <nn...@xhost.org> wrote in message
news:opsiic$nbo$1...@dont-email.me...

Ew. My mom had a friend who said that she loved bakery cake frosting that
tasted like Crisco.

[Julie Bove]

"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:6f33scht8pb0bdcsi...@4ax.com...

It is.

[Julie Bove]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ops41d$fet$1...@dont-email.me...

My dad used to buy from the Hostess outlet. We have a Bimbo outlet near
here. I've never been. I have been to the Franz outlet. Good stuff but they
give you so much free stuff when you check out. We can never eat it all.

[Julie Bove]

"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:HljwB.73541$sH2....@fx05.iad...

Heh. I tried the stuff. Yucky.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Wed 20 Sep 2017 01:58:15a, Julie Bove told us...

When you refer to how horrible New York is, are you referring to NYC
or any of the 5 boroughs, or to the any beautiful and wnderful parts
of New York State?

[Gary]

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Heh. I tried the stuff. Yucky.

Hey wait...didn't you just tell us you couldn't even find
Entenmann's?
LOL! Julie, you've reverted back to the old classic "julie mode,"
you don't like any food or suggestions. And you are cooking for
someone else (and the dog) ?

;)

[Gary]

I might be mistaken but didn't the old frosting only consist of
crisco and powdered sugar?

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> dsi1 wrote:
> >As far as chemical factories goes, the human body is producing thousands of complex compounds every second. > >We don't know the effect most of these compounds have on our bodies, and perhaps we never will.
>
> The fact that we don't know much yet, is even more reason not to eat
> crazy science projects.

If you were actually educated and degreed as a chemist and
specialized in food prep, you might realize the necessity for
certain chemicals in food. Don't be so paranoid. Eat what you
like, just not a whole lot of it.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Why are they necessary? For a couple of centuries cakes were made
without them. I made a cake on Sunday. Flour, sugar, milk, eggs,
butter, vanilla, baking powder, salt. No other chemicals and tastes
better than anything from a package.

Necessary usually translates to cheaper, longer lasting, more profitable.

Same with ice cream. Gums are cheaper than mild and fruit. The best
ice cream does not have them.

[Ed Pawlowski]

If I changed, t was for the better so I'm good with that. I'd like to
compare the ingredient lists from 30 or 40 years ago.

[Sqwerts]

On 9/19/2017 5:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> <rolling eyes> <shaking head>
Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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[Sqwerts]

On 9/20/2017 2:07 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Nobody needs that stuff and it's
> stupid to eat it.

You have been eating JeBus' arse again, troll.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/20/2017 6:45 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 20 Sep 2017 01:58:15a, Julie Bove told us...
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> You live in such an odd place. In my community the bakers
>>> deliver direct to the restaurants first thing in the a.m. The
>>> stuff is still warm. Does everyone rip everyone else off where
>>> you are? i have no desire to visit New York. It sounds horrible.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> It is.
>>
>>
>
> When you refer to how horrible New York is, are you referring to NYC
> or any of the 5 boroughs, or to the any beautiful and wnderful parts
> of New York State?
>

The state has some really nice places. NYC is a different world and has
some both good and bad points depending on your POV. Foods you cannot
get anywhere else, theater, and a fast paced life. Expensive too.

[Sqwerts]

On 9/19/2017 8:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I used to live in Pittsburgh.

[Ed Pawlowski]

She used to live in the east where they are in many stores.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Wed 20 Sep 2017 07:11:57a, Ed Pawlowski told us...

I love NYC. Lived there for a few years many years ago. During the
years I lived in Cleveland I made trips to NYC at least 3-4 times
every year for theatre, restaurants, and shopping. I had already
"done" all the museums long ago.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Before Crisco there was (drumroll, please): Butter!

Not as stable as Crisco, but much, much tastier.

Cindy Hamilton

[notbob]

On 2017-09-20, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

> She used to live in the east where they are in many stores.

They've been in stores, out West, fer decades. I cannot ever recall a
time when I did NOT see Entemann's snails, bear claws, etc, on the
sprmkt shelf. Got 'em here in CO, too. Even at 10K ft elev. ;)

nb

[notbob]

On 2017-09-20, Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:

> I love NYC. Lived there for a few years many years ago. During the
> years I lived in Cleveland I made trips to NYC at least 3-4 times

> every year.....

If I lived in Cleveland, I'd love NYC, also. ;)

nb

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:45:22 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
snip

>
>When you refer to how horrible New York is, are you referring to NYC
>or any of the 5 boroughs, or to the any beautiful and wnderful parts
>of New York State?

The parts that Sheldon talks about. He is not a good testament for the
places, people and things. Everything is about someone cheating or
taking advantage. Who wants that?
You must also remember that I was responding to Sheldon speak.
Janet US

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:18:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>On 9/19/2017 3:39 PM, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee cakes
>>> years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were known
>>> to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand. Once
>>> in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
>>> They're not even fresh!!
>>

>> Easily available here, and JUST as good as they always were.
>

>No. they are not. Evidently there are no good bakeries near you.

Perhaps some think Entenmann's donuts aren't fresh because they sell
baked donuts, not fried.... I happen to prefer baked donuts. Before
Entenmann's was sold to new owners a few years ago I loved their
chocolate crumb coated devils food donuts... I didn't buy them often
as once I started I'd eat the entire boxful in one sitting. When I
lived on Lung Guyland I was less than a half mile from their factory
in Bayshore. Seems they no longer feature chocolate crumb coated
devils food donuts
https://www.entenmanns.com/en
Seems Entenmanns has changed ownership several times in the past few
years.... used to be very good but the last time we tried their coffee
cake it was awful... I'll never buy Entenmann's again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entenmann%27s

[penm...@aol.com]

m...@privacy.TIAD.net wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>m...@privacy.TIAD.net wrote:

>>>juliebove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee cakes
>>>> years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were known
>>>> to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand. Once
>>>> in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
>>>> They're not even fresh!!
>>>
>>> Easily available here, and JUST as good as they always were.
>>>
>>No. they are not. Evidently there are no good bakeries near you.
>

>I've been getting their products for at least 40 years, AND my taste
>buds are JUST as good as THEY used to be, and no matter WHO owns them,
>they're using the same recipe and ingredients, and the products are
>JUST FINE. If YOU feel differnetly, YOU changed, NOT them.

Your tastebuds are in your rectum. Entenmann's products have changed
for the worse and many are no longer available.

[penm...@aol.com]

Most any neighborhood bakery is/was better than Entenmann's...
Entenmann's is/was a fast food bakery, everything prebaked/pre
packaged. Entenmann's used to be pretty good for a less costly baked
product (cheapskates would bring Entenmann's when they visited
someone), but over the past few years they've changed owners several
times and their product became garbage... today any box cake is far
superior.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:21:18 +1000, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:10:50 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
><waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:37:13p, Julie Bove told us...

>>
>>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the
>>> coffee cakes years ago. I never liked them but everyone else
>>> seemed to. People were known to eat a whole box all by themselves.
>>> But now? I rarely see the brand. Once in a while I see donuts.
>>> They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way. They're not even
>>> fresh!!
>>>
>>

>>A full range of Entemann products is carried by almost every
>>supermarket in the Phoenix area, including the donuts. I like all
>>their products except for the donuts. Having said that, I have never
>>liked pre-packaged/boxed donuts. The chocolate coating on their donuts
>>taste like wax and they're always dry.
>
>I think I know why you don't like their donuts. Here are the
>ingredients for Entenmann Rich Frosted Donuts:
>
>"Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Shortening (Soybean, Cottonseed),
>Sugar, Unbleached Enriched Wheat Flour (Flour, Malted Barley Flour,
>Reduced Iron, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate (B1), Riboflavin (B2), Folic
>Acid), Water, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Nonfat Milk, Soy Flour,
>Egg Yolks, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium
>Aluminum Phosphate), Natural & Artificial Flavors, High Fructose Corn
>Syrup, Dextrose, Pregelatinized Wheat Starch, Corn Syrup, Salt, Soy
>Lecithin, Sorbitan Monostearate, Polysorbate 60, Mono- And
>Diglycerides, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Cellulose Gum, Guar
>Gum, Tapioca Dextrin, Xanthan Gum, Karaya Gum, Beta Carotene (Color),
>Caramel Color."
>
>Yo mama!

Today most packaged baked goods use similar ingredients... difficult
to find an honest loaf of packaged bread.

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > I might be mistaken but didn't the old frosting only consist of
> > crisco and powdered sugar?
>
> Before Crisco there was (drumroll, please): Butter!
>
> Not as stable as Crisco, but much, much tastier.

I would agree. Even using just Crisco and sugar, some butter
added could only make it better.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:49:52 +1000, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:58:39 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>

>>>Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee cakes
>>>years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were known
>>>to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand. Once
>>>in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
>>>They're not even fresh!!
>>

>>Entenmann's was sold about 2-3 years ago... products are awful now.
>>I used to live less than 1/2 mile from their plant... their company
>>store had great values, every item $1.
>

>That's a good deal. If you had to buy all those chemicals separately,
>you'd be paying a lot more.

The original Entenmann's products didn't use all those chems.... usta
actually go stale on the market shelf in about a week... now it stays
fresh for 3-4 months.

[Gary]

You cannot compare taste from 30-40 years memory to what you
taste today. I never expected YOU to go there. The only
reasonable way to compare 2 products is to taste both side by
side. I ate Entenmenn's back in the 80's occasionally. I still
like them today.

Stupid to compare what you ate this morning to what you remember
eating 40 years ago. Get real.

[Bruce]

Here too, I'm sure, but this product seems extreme.

[penm...@aol.com]

Most of those chems are for preservation and texture... most baked
goods on market shelves contain the same. It's safer to bake your
own. We don't eat much bread anymore so I rarely bake bread, not
since I discovered this product, all natural, no chems... best
packaged bread I've ever met:
http://heidelbergbread.com/bread/

[S Viemeister]

On 9/20/2017 5:22 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:

> The original Entenmann's products didn't use all those chems.... usta
> actually go stale on the market shelf in about a week... now it stays
> fresh for 3-4 months.
>

I don't often agree with Sheldon, but he is right about Entenman's.
The ingredient list of the original products, was pretty much what I
would have used. I started to bake yeasted coffee cakes after Entenman's
changed hands, because the new ones didn't taste anywhere near as good
as the originals, and had ingredients that home bakers neither use nor need.

[penm...@aol.com]

Of course... all cream frostings are mostly of hydrogenated vegetable
oils... bakeries use unbranded hydrogenated vegetable oil, available
in huge bulk sizes from their wholesalers. Years ago Crisco had
competition, Spry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spry_Vegetable_Shortening

[penm...@aol.com]

>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message

>news:6f33scht8pb0bdcsi...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:25:13 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:49:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:58:39 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee
>>>>>>cakes
>>>>>>years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were
>>>>>>known
>>>>>>to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand.
>>>>>>Once
>>>>>>in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
>>>>>>They're not even fresh!!
>>>>>

>>>>>Entenmann's was sold about 2-3 years ago... products are awful now.
>>>>>I used to live less than 1/2 mile from their plant... their company
>>>>>store had great values, every item $1.
>>>>

>>>>That's how every baking plant gets rid of the unsold more than a day
>>>>old stuff that is brought back -- everything $1. We have a baking
>>>>plant here that does the same.
>>>>People swarm for that stuff.
>>>>Janet US
>>>
>>>Restaurants 'swarm' for it too, they are the first ones there evey AM.

>>
>> You live in such an odd place. In my community the bakers deliver
>> direct to the restaurants first thing in the a.m. The stuff is still
>> warm. Does everyone rip everyone else off where you are?
>> i have no desire to visit New York. It sounds horrible.
>> Janet US

You're missing many of the best bakeries on the planet.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:00:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:ops41d$fet$1...@dont-email.me...

>> On 9/19/2017 11:49 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:58:39 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Entenmann's was sold about 2-3 years ago... products are awful now.
>>>> I used to live less than 1/2 mile from their plant... their company
>>>> store had great values, every item $1.
>>>
>>> That's how every baking plant gets rid of the unsold more than a day
>>> old stuff that is brought back -- everything $1. We have a baking
>>> plant here that does the same.
>>> People swarm for that stuff.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> Many years ago my mom bought things from (I think it was) the Wonder Bread
>> thrift store. Day old stuff, dirt cheap.
>
>My dad used to buy from the Hostess outlet. We have a Bimbo outlet near
>here. I've never been. I have been to the Franz outlet. Good stuff but they
>give you so much free stuff when you check out. We can never eat it all.

Nowadays Bimbo owns Entenmann's, and they are producing dreck.

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 4:03:15 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Why are they necessary? For a couple of centuries cakes were made
> without them. I made a cake on Sunday. Flour, sugar, milk, eggs,
> butter, vanilla, baking powder, salt. No other chemicals and tastes
> better than anything from a package.
>
> Necessary usually translates to cheaper, longer lasting, more profitable.
>
> Same with ice cream. Gums are cheaper than mild and fruit. The best
> ice cream does not have them.

For a fun science experiment, you can buy a doughnut at your local bakery, wrap it up, then try eating it after a week or two. What these stabilizers and preservatives are able to do to certain foods is simply amazing. People say they don't like preservatives in their foods but just try living in a world without them.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

It goes as follows: you buy a real bread and you eat it before it goes
stale. I'm told that in the old days, you could even buy half a loaf.
How advanced is that?

[U.S. Janet B.]

I'm glad you said that. I have been given Entenmann's several times
by a former New Yorker as a Christmas present. I tried one or two
bites because she was so enthusiastic about the stuff. And then I
threw it all away. My husband wouldn't eat it and that is saying a
lot. He likes his sweets.
Janet US

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> It goes as follows: you buy a real bread and you eat it before it goes
> stale. I'm told that in the old days, you could even buy half a loaf.
> How advanced is that?

I understand the principle. People would walk down to their local bakery after work or during their daily errands to pick up a loaf of bread. How so very quaint. What has that got to do with the way Americans live? Nuttin.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Isn't that up to you people? You don't have to be sheeple victims of a
perverted food industry. I'm sure you could buy real food if you
wanted.

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 7:48:22 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> Isn't that up to you people? You don't have to be sheeple victims of a
> perverted food industry. I'm sure you could buy real food if you
> wanted.

Indeed it is. The people have spoken, or rather, their actions have spoken. What people want and what they say they want are two different things. I suggest that you live the way you say you want other people to live but that would be two different things, wouldn't it?

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I know that people tend to eat crap. But in rfc, where most people are
better cooks than me, I wouldn't expect it so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEKGh0ifqc

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 8:09:35 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> I know that people tend to eat crap. But in rfc, where most people are
> better cooks than me, I wouldn't expect it so much.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEKGh0ifqc

Mostly this is a group that likes to gossip. The main topic of discussion is other people. This joint should be called r.p.g.

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-09-20 10:15 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> The state has some really nice places. NYC is a different world
>> and has some both good and bad points depending on your POV.
>> Foods you cannot get anywhere else, theater, and a fast paced
>> life. Expensive too.

>>
>
> I love NYC. Lived there for a few years many years ago. During the
> years I lived in Cleveland I made trips to NYC at least 3-4 times

> every year for theatre, restaurants, and shopping. I had already
> "done" all the museums long ago.

I have been to a number of places in NY state and it's pretty good. My
son goes down to NYC a couple times a year. He loves it.

[Casa de Masa]

On 9/19/2017 11:20 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> tahe docnuts were always dry and stale.
>

The doc's nuts?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/20/2017 12:34 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:

>
> Most of those chems are for preservation and texture... most baked
> goods on market shelves contain the same. It's safer to bake your
> own. We don't eat much bread anymore so I rarely bake bread, not
> since I discovered this product, all natural, no chems... best
> packaged bread I've ever met:
> http://heidelbergbread.com/bread/
>

Looks like real bread, the way it should be. We have a bakery the next
town over that has good bread and pastries. I'm in there a couple of
times a week.

[Casa de Masa]

forged

[Casa de Masa]

On 9/20/2017 10:14 AM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
> Most any neighborhood bakery is/was better than Entenmann's...
> Entenmann's is/was a fast food bakery, everything prebaked/pre
> packaged. Entenmann's used to be pretty good for a less costly baked
> product (cheapskates would bring Entenmann's when they visited
> someone), but over the past few years they've changed owners several
> times and their product became garbage...

https://www.influenster.com/reviews/entenmanns-bakery


Entenmann's Bakery

4.76 / 5 based on 640 Reviews

"They're definitely a very sweet product and nothing like homemade, but
they hit the spot when you're craving a delicious baked good." in 28 reviews
"I can't resist a good piece of Entenmenn's Coffee Cake on Saturday
mornings :) Lots of yummy bakery goods and regulary on sale at my local
Grocery Store!" in 25 reviews
"I love the Entenmann's brand, I've been purchasing this brand for
years, always so fresh and delicious, especially the chocolate chip
cookies!" in 25 reviews
"I really like this brand of pastry it isn't too sweet and I like plain
things so the plain donuts and the assorted box of donuts are good and
the cheese danish " in 23 reviews
"I especially love the individually wrap slices of pound cake, the taste
is delicious and it will completely melt in my mouth each time." in 23
reviews

https://www.influenster.com/reviews/entenmanns-crumb-cake

Entenmann's Crumb Cake

4.30 / 5 based on 20 Reviews

Eva H.
Eva H.
Gainesville, FL
49 reviews
April 13, 2017, 5:13 p.m.
Definitely my second favorite snack cake/food from them. Love these with
a nice cup of hot or iced coffee! I love the single packs but also love
their whole cake. My mom is the one who introduced these in my life!
Thanks mom!

Summer Y.
Greendale, IN
86 reviews
Sept. 8, 2015, 5:30 p.m.
I have loved these cakes since I was a little girl! They are so moist
and delicious! When we buy them I have to hide them throughout the
kitchen to insure that I will get to eat more than one!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Ah, some of us still do that. I can't buy a half loaf though, but you
can in parts of Europe. When I buy raisin bread I usually give half to
a friend.

In the big cities there are still bakeries where you can do that. When
I lived in Philly I could walk to three different bakeries for bread.
Maybe you don't have that in the middle of the Pacific ocean, but we
still do in many parts of our America.

[Casa de Masa]

On 9/20/2017 11:48 AM, Bruce wrote:
> You don't have to be sheeple victims of a
> perverted food industry.

Give it up troll, go eat one of those nasty Auzzie meat pies.

[Casa de Masa]

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!


+ 100000000!!!!!!

[Ed Pawlowski]

We buy real food. Yes, we do buy canned beans. We may buy sausage. We
don't buy breaded chicken, we don't buy containers of mashed potatoes,
frozen dinners, one of other thing like that. Never bought a pre-made
birthday cake. A lot of people are satisfied with mediocrity and crap.
We eat better, healthier.

[U.S. Janet B.]

It's too bad there are no pictures of the crumb so that a person could
really judge.
Janet US

[Bruce]

Definitely. Everybody has that choice. And it's not even more
expensive.

[Bruce]

Maybe it's all prefab on his rock. Note to self: Don't live on a rock.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I can buy half a loaf at my local bakery. Usually, though, I buy a whole
loaf and freeze it. Not as good as fresh bread, but it keeps the bread
from going stale (or moldy), and I can go to the bakery (and resist its
other temptations) once a week rather than more often.

Ingredients: flour, water, salt, yeast.

Grocery store bread is dismal.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

That's it.

>Grocery store bread is dismal.

Yes, even frozen real bread beats it hands down.

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> Maybe it's all prefab on his rock. Note to self: Don't live on a rock.

You got it backwards buckaroo. That kind of stuff is more prevalent in small, isolated, communities. Picking up your daily bread at small bakeries is a rather provincial thing to do.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:38:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's all prefab on his rock. Note to self: Don't live on a rock.
>
>You got it backwards buckaroo. That kind of stuff is more prevalent in small, isolated, communities. Picking up your daily bread at small bakeries is a rather provincial thing to do.

I'm sure you can do it in big cities too. You'll even have more
choice.

[Cindy Hamilton]

New York City. Very provincial.

Cindy Hamilton

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Wed 20 Sep 2017 12:44:22p, Ed Pawlowski told us...

We do buy some canned beans, but not dried beans that I plan on using
in a recipe. We buy sausage from a sausage specialty shop that's
been around since 1952 and still family owned and operated. None of
the other stuff you mentioned.

Two years ago I bought a Schwarzwald Kirshtorte for David's birthday.
The bakery was a highly recommended source and all they bake are
cakes. I discussed the ingredient list with the owner and learned
that they use the same quality ingredients that I use at home. They
even had the Kirschwasser that is used in a syrup and a filling used
for this cake. I have baked this caked many times myself, but at
that particular time I wasn't physically up to making it. When we
tasted it we both agreed that it was as authentic and as good as
mine.

If I needed to, I wouldn't hesitate buying a cake from them anytime.

--

~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

**********************************************************

Wayne Boatwright

[Casa de Masa]

On 9/20/2017 1:58 PM, Bruce wrote:
> Note to self: Don't live on a rock.

Stick with the fatal shore and its many killer insects and reptiles.

[cshenk]

Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

But real fresh is best!

Since I have so much rye, I made an experiment Sunday.

1 1/3C water plus 1 TB (thinking +2 would be better)
3 TB butter (I was a little short, maybe that's why I think a little
more water?)
2 2/3 cup bread flour
1 1/3 cup rye flour
3 TB vanilla lavender sugar (original was brown sugar)
2 ts Bakers Brew coffee spice (original was caraway)
1 ts salt
2 ts yeast

Dough mode then shape, let rise in a slow oven (just the light on) for
1 hour then remove, preheat to 400F and bake 17 minutes.
--

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:27:08 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 9/20/2017 3:00 AM, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:18:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 9/19/2017 3:39 PM, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the coffee cakes
>> >>>> years ago. I never liked them but everyone else seemed to. People were known
>> >>>> to eat a whole box all by themselves. But now? I rarely see the brand. Once
>> >>>> in a while I see donuts. They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way.
>> >>>> They're not even fresh!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Easily available here, and JUST as good as they always were.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> No. they are not. Evidently there are no good bakeries near you.
>> >
>> >
>> > I've been getting their products for at least 40 years, AND my taste
>> > buds are JUST as good as THEY used to be, and no matter WHO owns them,
>> > they're using the same recipe and ingredients, and the products are
>> > JUST FINE.
>> >
>> > If YOU feel differnetly, YOU changed, NOT them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> If I changed, t was for the better so I'm good with that. I'd like to
>> compare the ingredient lists from 30 or 40 years ago.
>
>You cannot compare taste from 30-40 years memory to what you
>taste today. I never expected YOU to go there. The only
>reasonable way to compare 2 products is to taste both side by
>side. I ate Entenmenn's back in the 80's occasionally. I still
>like them today.
>
>Stupid to compare what you ate this morning to what you remember
>eating 40 years ago. Get real.

Ed wanted to see the LIST of ingredients from 40 years ago... would
have been a much shorter list. In the '50s commercial icecream was
much different from today's, it was as natural as the best homemade,
was far better than today's premium ice creams. My favorites were
Louis Sherry and Dolly Madison... back then Good Humor was an
excellent natural ice cream, I liked their coconut and toasted
coconut. One summer I drove a Bungalow Bar truck, was a low end ice
cream but much better than today's premiums.
Today's best commercial ice creams are in the same catagory as today's
mystery meat fast food burgers compared to home ground burgers. Ben &
Jerrys is overly sugared crap, it's more a cheap confection than a
quality ice cream. The best ice cream by far is sold at Spumoni
Gardens in Brooklyn NY... spumoni to die for, one taste and any
spumoni sold in Italy is garbage.
http://www.spumonigardens.com/

[Ed Pawlowski]

Perfect example is Breyers vanilla ice cream. Milk, cream, sugar,
vanilla extract. It was my favorite and I ate it for years. Suddenly it
had gums, fillers, other crap in it and it was terrible. So bad, they
have discontinued it finally. They now have a natural vanilla but it
still has Tara gum.

[notbob]

On 2017-09-21, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

> They now have a natural vanilla but it still has Tara gum.

I know. Hard to find a decent ice cream.

I jes want something with a lotta nuts (no comments from the peanut
gallery!). Any flavor will do. ;)

nb

[Julie Bove]

"Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:XnsA7F5B8F277F56wa...@69.16.179.45...
> On Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:37:13p, Julie Bove told us...

>
>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the
>> coffee cakes years ago. I never liked them but everyone else
>> seemed to. People were known to eat a whole box all by themselves.
>> But now? I rarely see the brand. Once in a while I see donuts.
>> They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way. They're not even
>> fresh!!
>>
>

> A full range of Entemann products is carried by almost every
> supermarket in the Phoenix area, including the donuts. I like all
> their products except for the donuts. Having said that, I have never
> liked pre-packaged/boxed donuts. The chocolate coating on their donuts
> taste like wax and they're always dry. If I want donuts I buy them
> fresh at a donut shop. Fresh donuts from a donut shop will cost you
> more than $4 for 6 of them.
>
> Just as an aside, Julie, it seems from your many posts that you have
> trouble finding many food prodicts where you live. When we lived
> further out in the desert we had to drive anywhere from 30 to 40 miles
> to go to a supermarket. Now that we live in the city there's
> practically nothing I have trouble finding.

I checked and we only have the donuts here. I didn't even really want to buy
the other products. Just wondered where they went.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:kgg3schdiqo8d654h...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:10:50 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> <waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon 18 Sep 2017 11:37:13p, Julie Bove told us...
>>
>>> Does anyone know what happened to this brand? I used to buy the
>>> coffee cakes years ago. I never liked them but everyone else
>>> seemed to. People were known to eat a whole box all by themselves.
>>> But now? I rarely see the brand. Once in a while I see donuts.
>>> They seem expensive. About $4 for 6. No way. They're not even
>>> fresh!!
>>>
>>
>>A full range of Entemann products is carried by almost every
>>supermarket in the Phoenix area, including the donuts. I like all
>>their products except for the donuts. Having said that, I have never
>>liked pre-packaged/boxed donuts. The chocolate coating on their donuts
>>taste like wax and they're always dry.
>

> I think I know why you don't like their donuts. Here are the
> ingredients for Entenmann Rich Frosted Donuts:
>
> "Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Shortening (Soybean, Cottonseed),
> Sugar, Unbleached Enriched Wheat Flour (Flour, Malted Barley Flour,
> Reduced Iron, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate (B1), Riboflavin (B2), Folic
> Acid), Water, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Nonfat Milk, Soy Flour,
> Egg Yolks, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium
> Aluminum Phosphate), Natural & Artificial Flavors, High Fructose Corn
> Syrup, Dextrose, Pregelatinized Wheat Starch, Corn Syrup, Salt, Soy
> Lecithin, Sorbitan Monostearate, Polysorbate 60, Mono- And
> Diglycerides, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Cellulose Gum, Guar
> Gum, Tapioca Dextrin, Xanthan Gum, Karaya Gum, Beta Carotene (Color),
> Caramel Color."
>
> Yo mama!

I don't really like any donuts. Perhaps vegan ones. I did make some yummy
lemon and coconut ones but they were a PITA to make and you
know...diabetes...so...can't really eat more than one tiny one.

[Julie Bove]

<penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f155sctreh6a1a6he...@4ax.com...

> Today most packaged baked goods use similar ingredients... difficult
> to find an honest loaf of packaged bread.

Not here. Plenty of local bakeries. I buy these occasionally. Some might
have issues with the soy and palm but they are tasty and I only have them
once in an while.

[Julie Bove]

"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:EhjwB.73477$sH2....@fx05.iad...
> On 9/19/2017 10:53 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:44:46 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>>
>>> If I were the one with this dilemma, I'd visit the Entemann's
>>> website, https://www.entenmanns.com/en, especially their store
>>> locator page, which asks what product you want and your zipcode.
>>> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/store-locator
>>
>> I checked a few zip codes across the country and you either have a
>> mostly full selection, just the donuts, or nothing at all. I'm in the
>> later category. I would buy on of their coffee cakes/streudels if
>> they had them here (but they don't, so I won't).
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> You've not missed much.
>
> Many years ago Entemanns was decent but I'd no longer bother with the
> soggy strudels.

That's exactly how I thought of them. Soggy.

[Julie Bove]

"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message

news:yyuwB.33346$i03....@fx24.iad...

> On 9/20/2017 9:41 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>> As far as chemical factories goes, the human body is producing
>>>> thousands of complex compounds every second. > >We don't know the
>>>> effect most of these compounds have on our bodies, and perhaps we never
>>>> will.
>>>
>>> The fact that we don't know much yet, is even more reason not to eat
>>> crazy science projects.
>>
>> If you were actually educated and degreed as a chemist and
>> specialized in food prep, you might realize the necessity for
>> certain chemicals in food. Don't be so paranoid. Eat what you
>> like, just not a whole lot of it.
>>
>

> Why are they necessary? For a couple of centuries cakes were made without
> them. I made a cake on Sunday. Flour, sugar, milk, eggs, butter,
> vanilla, baking powder, salt. No other chemicals and tastes better than
> anything from a package.
>
> Necessary usually translates to cheaper, longer lasting, more profitable.
>
> Same with ice cream. Gums are cheaper than mild and fruit. The best ice
> cream does not have them.

People have gotten used to eating crap. Give them real food and they think
it tastes weird.