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>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
Here you go:
http://images.google.com/images?q=pasta+shapes+penne&hl=en
nancy
Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.
Karen
I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.
From the Ronzoni web site:
Penne Rigate Definition & Description: From the Latin for "feathers"
(reminiscent of old-fashioned quill pens) they are diagonally cut tubular
shapes with ridged surfaces. Best Uses: Versatile in size and shape, penne
takes only 6 minutes to cook! Use it in entrées, side dishes, soup, oven
bakes or cold salads. Most pasta sauces are great with penne, but thinner
sauces will cling to ridges in penne.
http://www.ronzoni.com/cooking/PastaShape.asp?S=37&C=2&N=Short+Shapes
There's a taxonomy here:
Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
"macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)
Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
pen
Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside
Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface
Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end
And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
it even more complicated than that:
http://www.foodsubs.com/PastaTubes.html
--Blair
> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> TIA
images.google.com - search on penne pasta
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Yes. Penne is a pasta shape. What description do you need?
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Pandora
No. It is impossible . Penne are these:
http://images.google.it/images?q=penne+barilla&hl=it&btnG=Cerca+immagini
They can be "lisce or rigate" (Smooth or striped).
Ziti are these:
They are similar to "Bucatini" but with a bigger diameter. They generally
use them not long as they are, but broken in 4" pieces.
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Pandora
Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
Ciao
lp
The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume :)
Pandora
Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.
M-W
pen
noun
Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
FEATHER
1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
a : QUILL
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Sheldon
Thousands, try about 100 years... it was only a little more than 120
years ago that the first extruded/tubular pasta was made.... previously
the 'talians made only cut flat pasta (cut by knife and wires), not
even 'ghettis were dreamed up yet. Of course for thousands of years
the orientals produced long noodles entirely by hand, using no tools
whatsoever, by intricate stretching techniques. The first pasta
extrusion dies were made in trhe US in 1903.
Sheldon
Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
> pen
> noun
> Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
> Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
> FEATHER
> 1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
> a : QUILL
Pencil
from L. penicillus "paintbrush, pencil," lit. "little tail," dim. of
peniculus "brush," itself a dim. of penis "tail"
Luca
>
> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
> italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
I meant stilographic pen :)
Ciao
Pandora
Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
Ciao
Luca
Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
ciao
Pandora
Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)
Ciao
Luca
Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io :)
In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma sono
romana.
BTW I meant investigations on penne:)
cheers
Pandora
You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
regions :-)
> BTW I meant investigations on penne:)
What else to know? Penne were first made in Gragnano (Naples) between 1600
and 1800. There's no patend pending and no offficial birth date ;-)
Ciao
Luca
Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well known
here and well loved by some of us too:) You do yourself no favours by
attacking her before you even know her as we do:)
Ophelia
Scotland
Thank you , Ophelia, for the beloved :)!
I love you too :)
Pandora
Sorry, who's attacking who???
I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
Please read again and do some simple math.
Ciao
Luca
Geez... You're smart! ;-)
lp
A little more respect for the Queens of this newsgroup please :))
Sheldon you ignorant burger flipper.
Note clear depiction of extrusion at bottom of machine.
The first mention of the word "spaghetti" in /english/ was in 1849.
Who knows how long the Italians were using the words spaghetti
("string") and spago ("cord") to refer to long, thin noodles before
that.
You are so fucking sad.
--Blair
Opheliaaaaa! You make me blush !!!!!!!!! Thank you for the honour :)
Tomorrow at 5 o'clock we can take a tea together..I will wait for you!
Pandy
I shall bring cakes:))
yes please. I love english cakes :)
Pandy
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