Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
Again, IAYCAA. "-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007
Better to just have two butter dishes, and leave out a few days worth
of butter at all times. After 22 years of marriage, my wife has
finally stopped compulsively refrigerating the butter.
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
--Bryan
--Bryan
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
Ewww!
Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
that are harboring mold spores.
Empty it, run it through the dishwasher on sani, if you have that
cycle, then soak it in a bleach solution for an hour or so, then run
it through again. Then try using it.
If it molds after that, chuck it or take it back where you got it and
complain and see if you can find a stainless one.
Fantes has this:
http://www.fantes.com/images/120970butter.jpg
Boron
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
Boron
> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
I would sterilize, then try using bottled or distilled water. You might
want to boil and cool the water first. I can't help but think that the
water may be the primary culprit. I have never had this happen with a
butter bell.
Is yours porcelain or pottery, or is it glass? Mine is heavy glass.
--
Wayne Boatwright
Date: November(XI) 25th(XXV),2007(MMVII)
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4wks 4hrs 30mins
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If it's made in China, mold spores could be the least of the problems. Some
years back, it was teapots whose inside coating was leaching cadmium.....
Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish. I
won't buy that brand anymore.
Ms P
I've never seen that happen with LOL butter, after 35 years of using it. The
culprit is more likely to be in your house, not the product.
That might be true if it happened with any other product. The ONLY butter
I've ever had mold was LOL.
Ms P
On another ng, someone had one of these butter containers, and had
nothing but problems, too. I think everyone just told her not to use
it.
Karen
I buy Challenge and Land O' Lakes salted whipped butter and do not
refrigerate it to keep it spreadable. I don't have a problem with spoilage.
Mitch
Something's contaminating it, and it's not likely to be happening at the
plant where it's made. Could be your water, your butter dish, the knife,
etc.
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it?
>
> Is is made in China?
>
> -sw
Probably.
Hmmm. Might well be, although I typically have the store brand on hand,
too. I think I may try the store brand in it and see if it's any
better. Apart from this, though, I've NEVER seen mold on butter.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
I know that Gloria Puester here had a problem (not with spoilage) and
stopped using hers.
> Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 06:54:37p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
>
> > I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> > Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> I would sterilize, then try using bottled or distilled water. You might
> want to boil and cool the water first. I can't help but think that the
> water may be the primary culprit. I have never had this happen with a
> butter bell.
>
> Is yours porcelain or pottery, or is it glass? Mine is heavy glass.
Glazed pottery. Interesting thought. I think I'll talk to a food
scientist friend about it and see what he says.
I'm thinking about the one right below it -- if it uses batteries, it's
gotta be good, doncha think. <g>
>In article <abbkk3p2s2dpbbm0l...@4ax.com>,
> Boron Elgar <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> >out and ticking me off.
>> >
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>> >
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> Ewww!
>>
>> Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
>> that are harboring mold spores.
>>
>> Empty it, run it through the dishwasher on sani, if you have that
>> cycle, then soak it in a bleach solution for an hour or so, then run
>> it through again. Then try using it.
>>
>> If it molds after that, chuck it or take it back where you got it and
>> complain and see if you can find a stainless one.
>>
>> Fantes has this:
>> http://www.fantes.com/images/120970butter.jpg
>>
>> Boron
>
>I'm thinking about the one right below it -- if it uses batteries, it's
>gotta be good, doncha think. <g>
What? No USB port?
Boron
I've read all the posts so far about this thread. Why use a butter bell
in the first place? Does it make any difference to the butter? I've
never seen butter bells - and haven't known about them - until this past
year or so. They now seem to be available in a lot of stores. Is this
a new fad? What's the benefit of the butter bell? Why is it different
than a butter dish?
I keep my butter on a glass butter dish with a cover on my kitchen
counter. If I don't keep the butter covered, a particularly sneaky
feline will surreptitiously jump up to the kitchen counters in the wee
hours of the night whilst I sleep and partake of said butter if it's not
covered! The cat knows better too, which is why she waits until I'm
asleep! <G>
Sky
P.S. What is "IAYCAA"? I can't figure it out from the context and
googling didn't help.
--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice
(skipping the whole bell thing)
> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)
I have a butter bell ... it seems to pacify HWMRB.
(he who must refrigerate butter)
nancy
I keep our butter in the fridge... it's just too hot here (most of the
time) to leave it out. So sue me.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "readandpostrosie" <READAN...@YAHOO.COM> wrote
>>
>>> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>>>
>>> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>>
>> I have a butter bell ... it seems to pacify HWMRB.
>>
>> (he who must refrigerate butter)
>
> I keep our butter in the fridge... it's just too hot here (most of the
> time) to leave it out. So sue me.
Do I have to?
nancy
Have to.. what? Put the butter in the fridge or sue me? ;)
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
You have to keep the water cold. It happens to me when I don't change
the water often enough.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "ChattyCathy" <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote
>>
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> "readandpostrosie" <READAN...@YAHOO.COM> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>>>>>
>>>>> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>>>> I have a butter bell ... it seems to pacify HWMRB.
>>>>
>>>> (he who must refrigerate butter)
>>> I keep our butter in the fridge... it's just too hot here (most of the
>>> time) to leave it out. So sue me.
>>
>> Do I have to?
>
> Have to.. what? Put the butter in the fridge or sue me? ;)
I know I don't have to put my butter in the refrigerator ...
nancy
Winter: It's on the counter near a chilly wall. Summer: It's refrigerated,
or it would get way too soft.
In that case, no you don't.
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>out and ticking me off.
>>
>>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
May I suggest changing the water every day or two, and to make sure the
water level is high enough so that the butter is submerged in the water. It
may or not make a diff, but I use Brita-filtered water.
Felice
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "ChattyCathy" <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote
>>> Have to.. what? Put the butter in the fridge or sue me? ;)
>>
>> I know I don't have to put my butter in the refrigerator ...
>
> In that case, no you don't.
Whew, because you know what a hassle that is? (laugh)
nancy
Never.
heh heh heh. Especially taking 'international laws' into consideration ;)
Dtto. Never. I don't like rancid butter.
>On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
><barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>out and ticking me off.
>>
>>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
>
>I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
>recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
>scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
>
>Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
>
>Boron
I had this problem once...and googled as did Boron. Adding salt to
the water solved the problem for me. Wouldn't you think they would
include instructions?
Sue D.
I'm wondering about the water - it can only sit around for so long
without gathering up bacteria from the air.
I don't see the need for a bell myself - I use a regular, covered
butter dish, no water, no chilling, and it sits out on the counter
full-time. I've never had any rancid butter, no matter what the
outside temp is. I probably use more than a 1/4 pound (1 stick) a
week. It just doesn't have time to get old.
I live in a cool climate, and we use butter quickly enough that it
never goes rancid on us.
(Of course, I only leave a stick out, not the whole pound, but I
assume that's what the question means.)
Serene
>On Nov 25, 8:32 pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>>
>> <barbschal...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> >out and ticking me off.
>>
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
>> recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
>> scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
>>
>> Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
>>
>> Boron
>
>
>I'm wondering about the water - it can only sit around for so long
>without gathering up bacteria from the air.
I think the instructions call for regular water changes.
>
>I don't see the need for a bell myself - I use a regular, covered
>butter dish, no water, no chilling, and it sits out on the counter
>full-time. I've never had any rancid butter, no matter what the
>outside temp is. I probably use more than a 1/4 pound (1 stick) a
>week. It just doesn't have time to get old.
My butter is always in the fridge. I prefer the butter cold. I keep
two kinds of butter...one more expensive, cultured one we use on
breads, rolls, etc., and then the Costco one for basic cooking.
Boron
Always refrigerate mine. Thought you were supposed to. Who knew?
Jon
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
wtf does IAYCAA mean?
ypb
Did that. Will make sure there's plenty of water though I think I'm
using enough.
>
>"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:qor2j.21353$B25....@news01.roc.ny...
>> "Ms P" <ms_pe...@wbsnet.org> wrote in message
>> news:5qut4qF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Melba's Jammin'" <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:barbschaller-66BF...@news.iphouse.com...
>>>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>>> out and ticking me off.
>>>>
>>>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>>>
>>>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>>> --
>>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish.
>>> I won't buy that brand anymore.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I've never seen that happen with LOL butter, after 35 years of using it.
>> The culprit is more likely to be in your house, not the product.
>
>
>That might be true if it happened with any other product. The ONLY butter
>I've ever had mold was LOL.
>
>Ms P
>
Maybe it's the only one without preservatives. :)
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
Jes' use a regular butter dish, Martha Stewart.
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
Gesundheit
I did, too, until I finally tired of never being able to spread it on
my nice bread and rolls. Now I leave a stick in a covered butter dish
on the counter 24/7, even in the summers, and not a problem at all.
> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>
>
I used to have a butter dish, but it broke a few months before I got
divorced. I would leave a stick out; once in a while the last bit of it
would taste off in the summer. My mother is a refrigerator of butter :(
> Have you look it up on the net? The very first hit is:
> http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?p=3642349
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> -sw
>
dude, that's a link to an archive of this thread :)
>>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>> On another ng, someone had one of these butter containers, and had
>> nothing but problems, too. I think everyone just told her not to use
>> it.
>>
>> Karen
>
> I know that Gloria Puester here had a problem (not with spoilage) and
> stopped using hers.
I couldn't get the butter to stay in the "bell". It kept sliding into
the water no matter how hard I packed it in. I took it back to the
store where I bought it.
If you try again, I'd agree with whoever said to soak it in a bleach
solution, boil it for 5 minutes or so, then use sterile water to fill
the bottom. And if you can't stick a clean knife in it without
contaminating it, what good is it?
gloria p
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:39:00 GMT, Sarah Gray wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in
>> news:prvce8az...@sqwertz.com:
>>>
>>>> wtf does IAYCAA mean?
>>>
>>> Have you look it up on the net? The very first hit is:
>>> http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?p=3642349
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> dude, that's a link to an archive of this thread :)
>
> Oops. Silly me :-P
Ok, so I'm a dumbass...
I still haven't figured out what IAYCAA is, either...
LOL!! I was feeling puckish. I often end my requests with "I await
your counsel and advise." You moron. '-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
??>> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note
??>> that within a couple days, I'm getting something black on
??>> the inside of the water container and on the inside of the
??>> butter container. It's grossing me out and ticking me
??>> off.
??>>
??>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I
??>> stop it!?
CS> Jes' use a regular butter dish, Martha Stewart.
??>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
I don't eat real butter so I had never looked at this thread
before but it has continued so long that I had to find out what
was a "butter bell". It seems an ingenious idea but one of the
first few hits I found on Google
http://tinyurl.com/2n5lrn
said to remember to change the water every few days to avoid
mold.
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
Yeah, yeah. I don't have a covered butter dish --- hmmm, maybe I'll
pack some butter in this WITHOUT THE WATER. That should help me decided
if it's a water issue.
(Hi, Sue! Nice to see you.)
> was a "butter bell". It seems an ingenious idea but one of the
> first few hits I found on Google
> http://tinyurl.com/2n5lrn
> said to remember to change the water every few days to avoid
> mold.
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
Thanks,
I was changing it daily. Sometimes twice a day.
>On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:48:39 GMT, blake murphy wrote:
>
>Have you look it up on the net? The very first hit is:
>http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?p=3642349
>
>Hope that helps!
>
>-sw
as a matter of fact i did. i think that item is a plant.
your pal,
blake
>In article <2ofmk3l5jbp72i2sa...@4ax.com>,
> blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> >out and ticking me off.
>> >
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>> >
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> wtf does IAYCAA mean?
>>
>> ypb
>
>LOL!! I was feeling puckish. I often end my requests with "I await
>your counsel and advise." You moron. '-)
apparently i'm not alone in being dyslexic with initialisms. your
kilometerage may vary.
your pal,
blake
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
Barb, I've used a butter bell for *years* and the only time I've
gotten that mold is when I (inattentively) stretched cleaning the bell
for too long. If I clean it regularly - meaning every 2 or 3 weeks -
and change the water once a week, I have no problem at all. You may
just have a defective bell (and I'm not saying Made in China, of
course). I don't see a hallmark on my bell, but You-Know-Who's sister,
Linda, gave it to me probably 20 years ago.
Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
-- Duncan Hines
To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
>In article <474b5cf5...@news-server.nyc.rr.com>,
> s...@noaddy.com (Curly Sue) wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> Jes' use a regular butter dish, Martha Stewart.
>>
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> Gesundheit
>
>Yeah, yeah. I don't have a covered butter dish --- hmmm, maybe I'll
>pack some butter in this WITHOUT THE WATER. That should help me decided
>if it's a water issue.
>
>(Hi, Sue! Nice to see you.)
You too! I peek in every so often but haven't had the time lately to
follow what's going on. :(
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> fired up random neurons and synapses to
> opine:
>
> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> >out and ticking me off.
> >
> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> Barb, I've used a butter bell for *years* and the only time I've
> gotten that mold is when I (inattentively) stretched cleaning the bell
> for too long. If I clean it regularly - meaning every 2 or 3 weeks -
> and change the water once a week, I have no problem at all. You may
> just have a defective bell (and I'm not saying Made in China, of
> course). I don't see a hallmark on my bell, but You-Know-Who's sister,
> Linda, gave it to me probably 20 years ago.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
Thanks, Squeaks. I'm wondering if "you get what you pay for" may come
into play here. Most I've seen have run to about $20. This one was $10
at Ingebretsen's. A good deal. I might ask them if they've had any
complaints. I've been quite vigilant about changing the water and
about washing it. Sonofagun.
You're not missing much.