Cut from a can lid!
Julie Bove
Been out shopping for hours. Came in with food from Taco Time. Both
hungry. Cats wanted to eat. Told daughter to feed them while I put some
stuff away.
It all happened so quickly! She was opening the can. Wellness brand. Pop
top lid. Blood everywhere. Seems like a huge cut. Doesn't want to stop
bleeding. Finally told her to eat her dinner as best she can. Food is cold
now. I have to eat. Seeing as how I have diabetes and our dinner is much
delayed, wouldn't be safe for me to drive until I do.
And then? Prolly going to the hospital unless buy some miracle the bleeding
has stopped. Been about an hour now. Gah
Polly Esther
the cut as best you can and apply a plain old wet tea bag. Get some help
from a neighbor. A frightened diabetic mama is NOT a good driver. Polly
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Spiro Weville
Shouldn't she be in one of those hermetically sealed plastic bubbles?
Shouldn't you be eating rather than posting in the case you need to go
to the hospital?
MaryL
"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:itmgd8$rm8$1...@dont-email.me...
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Bleeding for an hour sounds dangerous, especially with the amount of blood
you described. You should get some food (anything!!) fast, and then get
Angela to the hospital ASAP. Don't waste time on the newsgroup. And be
sure to ask about a tetanus shot unless you are sure her boosters are
up-to-date. Please keep us updated.
MaryL
Julie Bove
"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That's a nasty wound and you do need to get 'real' care - but now - close
> the cut as best you can and apply a plain old wet tea bag. Get some help
> from a neighbor. A frightened diabetic mama is NOT a good driver. Polly
Thanks! It did finally stop bleeding.
Julie Bove
"MaryL" <stan...@invalid.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's fine now. Thanks.
Paul M. Cook
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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I know it's late in the game but you need to apply pressure to the wound
with as clean a material you have, preferably gauze pads. An hour of
bleeding is a lot and the wound probably needs stitches. If I were worried
about a low I'd make a quick sandwhich and then hot the road.
Good luck
Paul
Julie Bove
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It quit now. Thanks!
djs...@aol.com
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If it bled that long and that much you still need to take her to the
doctor. My sister cut her hand real badly on broken glass. The
bleeding stopped but she had to have surgery on her hand to remove the
scar tissue that had built up around and inside the wound.
Julie Bove
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Eeew. That doesn't sound good! I don't know that it bled a lot. It just
kept bleeding whenever she took pressure off of it. She does also tend to
panic when she sees a little bit of blood.
J. Clarke
Just a suggestion, but if you have to eat before you can drive safely,
keep an MRE handy--tastes like crap and may not be particularly good for
you but it's a balanced meal sufficient to keep a soldier going for a
day, you can eat it cold out of the package, and they'll keep for 10
years if you store them in a cool place. Just the thing for an
emergency.
Storrmmee
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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Janet Wilder
computer and post it to a newsgroup????
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
notbob
> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
You know ol' J Bovine couldn't pass up an opportunity for some
attention gettting. Screw the kid.
nb
ViLco
> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
If you had read the thread before posting you'd know that is was under
control.
Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
--
ViLco
Let the liquor do the thinking
Dave Smith
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
>> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>
> If you had read the thread before posting you'd know that is was under
> control.
> Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
In fairness..... she said that it was still bleeding after an hour.
I few years ago I cut my finger while preparing dinner. I probably
should have gone to the ER for stitches. I put a nice tight bandage on
it and saved myself a trip. The next day I figured it might be a good
idea to get it checked out. I stopped to visit my mother on the way to
the hospital and finally got to the ER around 1 pm. The nurse asked me
what made me think I didn't need stitches when it happened. Truth
is.... I had had a couple drinks and should not have been driving... or
handling sharp knives.... and I had a leg of lamb on the BBQ that was
ready to serve.
A doctor looked at it and said it was too late to stitch. They put some
ointment and a dressing on it. As it turned out, it healed better than
previous finger gashes that had been stitched.
Julie Bove
"J. Clarke" <jclark...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Not when you have food allergies!
notbob
> is.... I had had a couple drinks and should not have been driving... or
> handling sharp knives....
Like I always say, don't drink and dice. ;)
nb
Julie Bove
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <itmgd8$rm8$1...@dont-email.me>,
> cuts but yeah, they can take awhile to stop. Especially long shallow
> cuts that cut across a lot of capillaries.
>
> Hope you are better!
I don't even know what a pressure bandage is! But a regular bandage is what
stopped the bleeding. I kept trying to put one on there but she would see
the blood and yank her hand back. Apparently telling her to hold it up, and
put pressure with a paper towel wrapped around it wasn't enough.
She is going to the Dr. today for something else. I will have him look at
it.
Pete C.
Not much should really be stitched these days, the surgical adhesive
(cyanoacrylate a.k.a. super glue) is better.
Julie Bove
"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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She wasn't bleeding uncontrollably!
Julie Bove
"notbob" <not...@notbob.invalid> wrote in message
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The bleeding stopped.
Julie Bove
"ViLco" <vill...@tin.spam> wrote in message
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> Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
>> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>
> If you had read the thread before posting you'd know that is was under
> control.
> Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
I looked it up online and it said if the bleeding hadn't stopped after a
couple of hours to go to the hospital. So I sat down to eat and waited.
And when she was done eating it had stopped.
Julie Bove
"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> On 20/06/2011 9:42 AM, ViLco wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>>> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
>>> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>>
>> If you had read the thread before posting you'd know that is was under
>> control.
>> Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
>
>
> In fairness..... she said that it was still bleeding after an hour.
>
>
>
> I few years ago I cut my finger while preparing dinner. I probably should
> have gone to the ER for stitches. I put a nice tight bandage on
Had I taken her at the point where I posted, by the time we had gone to the
hospital it would have stopped.
The Cook
I thought most diabetics had emergency food available at all times. If
you are allergic to so many things it seems that you would have a
supply of stuff that you could eat without preparation.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
Brooklyn1
Well, you couldn't expect Julie to remember the phone number to call
911. At the very least a normal brained person would have wrapped the
gushing hand in a towel and immediately driven directly to the nearest
ER... but no, gotta first take an hour to cook boca boogers and eat
them. I seriously doubt it was much of a cut, certainly not if there
was time to post and reply about it... couldn't have been more blood
than from a picked mosquito bite scab.
Brooklyn1
wrote:
And you actually believe the hypochondriac.
Michael L Kankiewicz
>>>
>>> It all happened so quickly! She was opening the can. Wellness brand. Pop
>>> top lid. Blood everywhere. Seems like a huge cut. Doesn't want to stop
>>> bleeding. Finally told her to eat her dinner as best she can. Food is cold
>>> now. I have to eat. Seeing as how I have diabetes and our dinner is much
>>> delayed, wouldn't be safe for me to drive until I do.
>>>
>> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
Kinda like Tori Spelling tweeting at the scene of her auto accident,
including at the end "Going to dr now to check on baby. I think its just
shock."
Huh?
Dora
And there are plenty of things for a diabetic to grab in an
emergency - orange juice, sugar, Coke, peanut butter, proteins. You
say your daughter is bleeding profusely yet you are on the computer
and waiting for our replies? Please.
Dave Smith
computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>>>
>>> If you had read the thread before posting you'd know that is was under
>>> control.
>>> Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
>>
>>
>> In fairness..... she said that it was still bleeding after an hour.
>>
>>
>>
>> I few years ago I cut my finger while preparing dinner. I probably should
>> have gone to the ER for stitches. I put a nice tight bandage on
> So? According to what I read online that was not the time to go to the ER.
> Had I taken her at the point where I posted, by the time we had gone to the
> hospital it would have stopped.
>
Silly me. We should all have taken the time to revel in your drama.
Ema Nymton
careful to keep my fingers out of the way. Guess what? I cut my
thumb. I walked into the utility room next door, and grabbed a nitrile
glove. When I watch the wounded people on Chopped put on a glove, it
takes them forever. Me? I used latex or nitrile gloves every day at
work for a couple of decades, I can put them on in a few seconds. Not
this time, my hands were wet. lol Now I am beginning to see the nature
of their glove problem.
Becca
ChattyCathy
> I know this came up a while back. And now it happened.
More 'jwama'. Gimme a break, please.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
Janet Wilder
bleeding."
Pardon me for the misinterpretation.
Dave Smith
That's okay. You caught the drama. Now.... the excuses.
Julie Bove
"The Cook" <susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I have candy in my purse at all times but that won't substitute for a real
meal.
Julie Bove
"Dora" <lime...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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She wasn't bleeding profusely. And when I looked it up online it said to
seek medical help if it had been bleeding for a COUPLE of hours. At about
the one hour mark I told her to eat her dinner as best she could and if it
was still bleeding after we would go to the hospital. It wasn't.
Julie Bove
When she cut herself there *was* blood everywhere. There didn't continue to
be blood everywhere.
Julie Bove
"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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> In article <itnlcd$ggu$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
>>
>> "Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4dff473b$0$1650$c3e8da3$92d0...@news.astraweb.com...
>> > On 6/19/2011 10:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
> Blood everywhere. Seems like a huge cut. Doesn't want to stop
>> >> bleeding
>> >> has stopped. Been about an hour now. Gah
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
>> > computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>>
>> She wasn't bleeding uncontrollably!
>
> wouldn't stop bleeding ?
It did stop bleeding! Somewhere after an hour. I don't know exactly when.
I made the post because someone here said they had never been cut by a can.
Julie Bove
> In article <itnlcu$gli$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
Yes. And then it stopped.
Dave Smith
>> And there are plenty of things for a diabetic to grab in an emergency -
>> orange juice, sugar, Coke, peanut butter, proteins. You say your daughter
>> is bleeding profusely yet you are on the computer and waiting for our
>> replies? Please.
>
> She wasn't bleeding profusely. And when I looked it up online it said to
> seek medical help if it had been bleeding for a COUPLE of hours. At about
> the one hour mark I told her to eat her dinner as best she could and if it
> was still bleeding after we would go to the hospital. It wasn't.
>
>
Okay.... I gotta ask....... eat her dinner as best she could????
Just how bad can a cut finger be that one cannot eat?
I mean..... if she is bleeding as badly as you first indicated, and
there is some issue with her ability to eat on is given the impression
that it is a bad enough gash that it requires medical attention.
Cheri
You'll learn. LOL
Cheri
Brooklyn1
You obviously haven't spent time around certain females on the rag.
That's what yoose get for typing "a bad gash". LOL
Julie Bove
"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
>>> And there are plenty of things for a diabetic to grab in an emergency -
>>> orange juice, sugar, Coke, peanut butter, proteins. You say your
>>> daughter
>>> is bleeding profusely yet you are on the computer and waiting for our
>>> replies? Please.
>>
>> She wasn't bleeding profusely. And when I looked it up online it said to
>> seek medical help if it had been bleeding for a COUPLE of hours. At
>> about
>> the one hour mark I told her to eat her dinner as best she could and if
>> it
>> was still bleeding after we would go to the hospital. It wasn't.
>>
>>
>
>
> Okay.... I gotta ask....... eat her dinner as best she could????
>
> Just how bad can a cut finger be that one cannot eat?
Well we had tacos which kind of require two hands and she had to keep
pressure on the one hand.
>
>
> I mean..... if she is bleeding as badly as you first indicated, and there
> is some issue with her ability to eat on is given the impression that it
> is a bad enough gash that it requires medical attention.
No.
Julie Bove
When she first got the cut it was all over. But not after she wrapped it.
Janet Wilder
bleeding you found time to post to a Usenet group about cooking.
M�nchausen's By Proxy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome
I'm sorry, Julie. I know you have a lot of problems, but there is no
excuse for not taking a bleeding child to the ER. I raised 3 children
and when the bleeding did not stop with pressure after 10 minutes, we
were at the ER. If I could not drive myself, I called 911. I don't care
how creative you get trying to excuse this behavior, you won't win a
mother of the year award from me.
That's all I have to say about this.
Janet Wilder
Brooklyn1
Paul M. Cook
Wow, when I was a kid we didn't get taken to the ER for nothing. I got my
head cut open one winter while riding sleds. Big old cut above my left eye.
Blood everywhere and I mean a ton of it. Mom closed it up with a sewing
needle and some thread she dipped in Witch Hazel. Better believe it hurt.
Times sure have changed.
Paul
Janet Wilder
They have. Now we have insurance. Then your mom probably didn't. I
would never stitch my child myself. The chance of infection is huge, not
to mention the inevitable scarring.
A long time ago people who had bad cuts either bled out or developed
infections or tetanus. Today we treat them with modern medicine and
vaccinations and they live long and productive lives.
projectile vomit chick
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 20/06/2011 9:42 AM, ViLco wrote:
> > > Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> > >> Your child is bleeding uncontrollably and you find time to get on the
> > >> computer and post it to a newsgroup????
>
> > > control.
> > > Anyway, what should she do, scream around her daughter for a whole hour?
>
> > In fairness..... she said that it was still bleeding after an hour.
>
> > I few years ago I cut my finger while preparing dinner. I probably
> > should have gone to the ER for stitches. I put a nice tight bandage on
> > idea to get it checked out. I stopped to visit my mother on the way to
> > the hospital and finally got to the ER around 1 pm. The nurse asked me
> > what made me think I didn't need stitches when it happened. Truth
> > is.... I had had a couple drinks and should not have been driving... or
> > handling sharp knives.... and I had a leg of lamb on the BBQ that was
> > ready to serve.
>
> > A doctor looked at it and said it was too late to stitch. They put some
> > ointment and a dressing on it. As it turned out, it healed better than
> > previous finger gashes that had been stitched.
>
> Not much should really be stitched these days, the surgical adhesive
> (cyanoacrylate a.k.a. super glue) is better.
Arrgh I should have read further into the thread before mentioning
Super Glue. I had a nasty knife cut when I was working a few years
ago. My boss took me to urgent care and the doctor closed it up with
that (of course it wasn't a tube of Super Glue but I'm sure it was
pretty much the same thing!)......worked great, I don't even have a
scar.
MaryL
"Paul M. Cook" wrote in message news:itoklb$otd$1...@dont-email.me...
Wow, when I was a kid we didn't get taken to the ER for nothing. I got my
head cut open one winter while riding sleds. Big old cut above my left eye.
Blood everywhere and I mean a ton of it. Mom closed it up with a sewing
needle and some thread she dipped in Witch Hazel. Better believe it hurt.
Times sure have changed.
Paul
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I remember playing around an old barn. I slipped and cut myself on a rusty
nail. My mother cleaned the wound and then immediately took me to the
doctor's office. She was much more concerned about the fact that it was an
old, rusty nail than with the cut itself. That is when I received my first
lesson on the possibility of lockjaw and the importance of tentanus
injections. Booster shots today last much longer than I remember from that
era.
MaryL
projectile vomit chick
Well spotted Sheldon. LOL indeed!
notbob
> injections. Booster shots today last much longer than I remember from that
> era.
I thought one lasted a lifetime. I was shocked when a doctor told me
I needed one several years ago. Gee, it'd only been 50 yrs. ;)
nb
Paul M. Cook
Oh we had insurance. You went to a doctor if you lost a limb or had a 106F
fever.
> A long time ago people who had bad cuts either bled out or developed
> infections or tetanus. Today we treat them with modern medicine and
> vaccinations and they live long and productive lives.
Aspirin was the cure all.
Paul
MaryL
"notbob" wrote in message news:96a7kg...@mid.individual.net...
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Not even close to lifetime immunity. Boosters are generally given every 10
years. If it is a really dirty wound (such as a rusty nail or fence in an
area with livestock), I think doctors recommend a booster after 5 years.
MaryL
projectile vomit chick
> "Omelet" <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ompomelet-3BBF6...@news.giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <itmgd8$rm...@dont-email.me>,
> > "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> >> I know this came up a while back. And now it happened. We were in a
> >> hurry.
> >> Been out shopping for hours. Came in with food from Taco Time. Both
> >> hungry. Cats wanted to eat. Told daughter to feed them while I put some
> >> stuff away.
>
> >> It all happened so quickly! She was opening the can. Wellness brand.
> >> Pop
> >> bleeding. Finally told her to eat her dinner as best she can. Food is
> >> cold
> >> now. I have to eat. Seeing as how I have diabetes and our dinner is
> >> much
> >> delayed, wouldn't be safe for me to drive until I do.
>
> >> bleeding
> >> has stopped. Been about an hour now. Gah
>
> > cuts but yeah, they can take awhile to stop. Especially long shallow
> > cuts that cut across a lot of capillaries.
>
> > Hope you are better!
>
> I don't even know what a pressure bandage is! But a regular bandage is what
> stopped the bleeding. I kept trying to put one on there but she would see
> the blood and yank her hand back. Apparently telling her to hold it up, and
> put pressure with a paper towel wrapped around it wasn't enough.
Close it up with Super-Glue. Stings like hell but it works.
>
> She is going to the Dr. today for something else. I will have him look at
> it.
Julie Bove
Oh we have been to the ER many times in the past few months. But this
didn't warrant a trip. Oh and I don't want any awards from you. Nope.
Cheri
news:itoq79$nam$1...@dont-email.me...
> Oh we had insurance. You went to a doctor if you lost a limb or had a
> 106F fever.
Sounds like we were siblings. LOL
Cheri
Dave Smith
I was under the impression that they only gave tetanus boosters if you
have an injury and it has been a long time since the last one or the
time is in doubt. My doctor has never recommended a booster for me, but
don't think I have ever gone more than 10 years without having some
incident that led to a shot.
Julie Bove
I can remember begging to be taken to the ER. I was an adult then. My
parents wouldn't do it. Heck they wouldn't have even had to pay for it. I
had insurance there. Instead they kept me at their house for a week while I
missed work due to a subloxated knee. My mom finally *did* take me to the
Dr. when it swelled extremely much. I had it drained. And then it got
better.
I don't think I ever went to the ER as a child. Emergency trips to the Dr.,
yes. Such as the bee sting or when I fell from a rope swing.
As for the care given at the ER? Well... They prescribed a med for her ear
infection that did nothing. Told me she had a sprained ankle. It is nerve
damage. Still awaiting the nerve conductivity test for that one. We did
not go for her back. Went to the Dr. for that because they were still open.
They said it was a sprain. Long story short and an MRI and CAT scan
later... It's just short of a stress fracture. She is currently in a
corset for two months and must miss her recital. So yeah. We've been to
the Dr. and hospital a lot.
This, IMO didn't warrant a trip to the hospital. But we are leaving shortly
for her Drs. appointment for the thyroid problem that was discovered at
Children's Hospital. And her A1c which was 5.7. According to some sources
this could be pre-diabetes.
I will show the cut to the Dr. and see what he says.
Julie Bove
Yeah. But you can't give it to kids now!
Steve Pope
>I was under the impression that they only gave tetanus boosters if you
>have an injury and it has been a long time since the last one or the
>time is in doubt.
In my case they gave me one prior to travel to a non-North America,
non-EU country. Whether that's rational or some sort of xenophobia,
I'm not certain. I guess the theory is if injured in such a place,
they may not have a booster shot on hand to give to you.
Steve
Brooklyn1
MaryL
"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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It does seem to be primarily in the case of injuries or travel (or location
in a place where it would be difficult to get to medical care). In the
event of an injury (even a minor one if it meets the right criteria for
getting dirt into the wound), the physician will probably check to see when
the last booster was given.
MaryL
Polly Esther
see how things have gone. It baffles me how many snarky folks have climbed
in. It is very important that you consider a tetanus shot. Years ago I
scooped up garbage from a trash can the raccoons had pilfered with my bare
hands. In a hurry. Stupid. Ignorant . . . all of that. Sliced my hand
thoroughly with a can lid. Can lids can be quite nasty. Who knows what
manner of rat poison ( or droppings) they may have been around or only God
knows what else.
I remember being given a choice of tetanus injections - the regular or
one for those who are allergic. I chose the costly allergic one and had no
swelling, fever, soreness or notice at all. Probably all of us who love to
cook need to remember when was our last tetanus shot and if we need to renew
it. Can't cook without my can opener. Polly
Polly Esther
that might have been prevented. Just a struggling fellow removing debris
from his home got a 'little' cut that cost him his life. I don't know or
need to know the technicalities of tetanus but for sure, that was one of
thousands of lives lost. Maybe he didn't have a way to get medical care.
Probably he thought it wasn't important. It was. Polly
Brooklyn1
wrote:
It wasn't all that long ago when there was no such thing as medical
insurance. The first medical insurance was major medical, only kicked
in for hospital admissions... there was no insurance for doctor
visits, but then doctors didn't charge more than a couple of dollars
for an office visit... I remember in the '50s doctors made house
calls, cost $4... an extra dollar for a shot of penicillin. And if
you didn't have all the money you could pay a dollar a week. Believe
it or not there was a time not all that long ago when people didn't
become MDs for the big money, they really wanted to help people...
doctore did not become wealthy. In 1950 for a cut hand you brought
your kid to the corner pharmacy, or the barber shop... pharmacists and
barbers would stitch and dress all kind of wounds, even bullet wounds,
did tooth extractions too. My mother rushed me to the Whalens Drugs
store on the corner several times... housewives didn't drive, and
there was no 911. If something too serious for the pharmacy they'd
phone a neighborhood doctor who'd leave an office full of patients and
rush right over. The medical profession sure has changed, and not
everything for the better, technology is better but as much as
technology has escalated so has greed... and now we are on the brink
of Obama Care, there'll be no medical care whatsoever.
Steve Pope
>It wasn't all that long ago when there was no such thing as medical
>insurance. The first medical insurance was major medical, only kicked
>in for hospital admissions... there was no insurance for doctor
>visits, but then doctors didn't charge more than a couple of dollars
>for an office visit... I remember in the '50s doctors made house
>calls, cost $4... an extra dollar for a shot of penicillin. And if
>you didn't have all the money you could pay a dollar a week. Believe
>it or not there was a time not all that long ago when people didn't
>become MDs for the big money, they really wanted to help people...
This is all true. I have always had health insurance, or when young
had health coverage either as a Navy brat or as a college student (back
then, college came with healthcare). Between undergraduate and
grad school, I bought "White Cross" health insurance (that truly
was the real name of the insurer) and the premium was $300/year --
and probably a third of that went to the insurance salesman (who
stopped by my apartment to sell me the policy).
Steve
jmcquown
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:41:06 -0400, The Cook <susan_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:13:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"J. Clarke" <jclark...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:MPG.2868f95c4...@hamster.jcbsbsdomain.local...
>>>> In article <itmjrk$bff$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "MaryL" <stan...@invalid.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4dfecbd6$0$1953$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news:itmgd8$rm8$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I know this came up a while back. And now it happened. We were in
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > hurry.
>>>>> > Been out shopping for hours. Came in with food from Taco Time.
>>>>> > Both
>>>>> > hungry. Cats wanted to eat. Told daughter to feed them while I put
>>>>> > some
>>>>> > stuff away.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It all happened so quickly! She was opening the can. Wellness
>>>>> > brand.
>>>>> > Pop
>>>>> > stop
>>>>> > bleeding. Finally told her to eat her dinner as best she can. Food
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > cold
>>>>> > now. I have to eat. Seeing as how I have diabetes and our dinner
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > much
>>>>> > delayed, wouldn't be safe for me to drive until I do.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > bleeding
>>>>> > has stopped. Been about an hour now. Gah
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > blood
>>>>> > you described. You should get some food (anything!!) fast, and then
>>>>> > get
>>>>> > Angela to the hospital ASAP. Don't waste time on the newsgroup.
>>>>> > And
>>>>> > be
>>>>> > sure to ask about a tetanus shot unless you are sure her boosters
>>>>> > are
>>>>> > up-to-date. Please keep us updated.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine now. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Just a suggestion, but if you have to eat before you can drive safely,
>>>> keep an MRE handy--tastes like crap and may not be particularly good
>>>> for
>>>> you but it's a balanced meal sufficient to keep a soldier going for a
>>>> day, you can eat it cold out of the package, and they'll keep for 10
>>>> years if you store them in a cool place. Just the thing for an
>>>> emergency.
>>>
>>>Not when you have food allergies!
>>>
>>
>>I thought most diabetics had emergency food available at all times. If
>>you are allergic to so many things it seems that you would have a
>>supply of stuff that you could eat without preparation.
>
> And you actually believe the hypochondriac.
Munchhausen's (and munchhausen's by proxy, I suspect)... not to mention just
a plain attention-seeking poster. Diabetics always keep something on hand,
whether it be hard candy or a granola bar. (My aunt was a type one diabetic
and she always had something on hand in case her blood sugar took a dive.)
In this case, if the child was bleeding that severely for over an hour, how
about calling 911 if you can't drive? Hmmmmm?
Jill
Julie Bove
"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:96ac5...@mid.individual.net...
She saw the Dr. today. He said it was nothing to worry about. It is
healing properly and didn't need any stitches.
The can came to me in a case that was sealed in plastic. Probably direct
from the vendor to the pet store who then sent it to me. Daughter is very
picky and if the can in any way looked dirty or dusty she would have washed
it off.
Julie Bove
"Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:itorp...@news4.newsguy.com...
My mom took us to the Dr. for EVERYTHING! I never went to the hospital but
my brother frequently did. He always got croup in the middle of the night.
I remember going many times to the hospital in my pajamas and then wondering
who was going to watch me the next day. In those days my dad was working
two jobs and wasn't around to care for me. My mom would stay with my
brother and they would put him in an oxygen tent. I gather that is no
longer the standard treatment.
Julie Bove
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:96asmm...@mid.individual.net...
I had candy. But that wasn't a meal. I didn't need to dial 911. She
didn't need stitches. Everybody calm down now and go back to what you were
doing.
I only posted because someone here a while back said you couldn't get cut
from a can.
Paul M. Cook
You can get sepsis from bug bites and die. It's all a matter of what wee
beasties manage to get into the wound at the opportune time.
Paul
frie...@zoocrewphoto.com
>
> I few years ago I cut my finger while preparing dinner. I probably
> should have gone to the ER for stitches. I put a nice tight bandage on
> it and saved myself a trip. The next day I figured it might be a good
> idea to get it checked out. I stopped to visit my mother on the way to
> the hospital and finally got to the ER around 1 pm. The nurse asked me
> what made me think I didn't need stitches when it happened.
Years ago, I sliced my finger when I was cutting open a loaf a french
bread. The knife was dull and slipped, and gashed my finger pretty
bad. We didn't have anything big enough for it in the first aid kit,
so I went to the pharmacy. I encountered two managers on the way. They
all asked to see it. I removed the paper towels for a second and
recovered. They say enough to see that it was bad. I put a bunch of
gauze on it and taped it tight.
That night, my dad asked why I hadn't gone to the emergency room as
they would have stitched it., That's exactly why I didn't go. I'm
needle phobic. I'd rather deal with the blood. It bled some more the
next day, but I just kept adding more gauze and taped it tight again.
I did have some minor nerve damage. I think the nerves were cut and
then healed in a different order. After the skin was healed, there
were a couple months where I could push buttons without pain, but the
sensation felt strange. Once I got used to the new system, it didn't
feel weird anymore. The scar isn't bad. Just a line through my
fingerprint with a slight dent.
Back then, we did not have cutting gloves. By the next year, we had
them, and i hated them. I did the same thing to the next finger,
thought not nearly as bad. French bread again. Since then, I use the
cutting glove at work. At home, I don't. But I rarely have to cut open
bread for sandwiches at home since i usually use sliced bread. And the
knives aren't dull. At work, we get our knives sharpened on a regular
basis, but some are better than others, and it there's a good length
of time between sharpening.
frie...@zoocrewphoto.com
> She wasn't bleeding profusely. And when I looked it up online it said to
> seek medical help if it had been bleeding for a COUPLE of hours. At about
> the one hour mark I told her to eat her dinner as best she could and if it
> was still bleeding after we would go to the hospital. It wasn't.
Something else that helps is an ice pack. It will keep swelling down,
but also cools the blood, which slows it down. A coupe years ago, I
was taking down a table that had legs that crossed. I was trying to
remove a difficult screw. I knew not to wrap my fingers around the
leg, but as I struggled to get the screw lose, I forgot and wrapped my
fingers around. The screw came out, and the table collapsed on my
fingers. It hurt really bad, cut pretty good, and I knew it was bad. I
also have a tendency to get light headed and feel really warm if I see
a bad hole.I'm okay with blood, just not good with needles and icky
holes. So, the first thing I did was grab two gel packs from the
freezer and a bottle of water from the fridge. I wrapped my injured
hand with one ice pack, sat down on the floor, and put the other ice
pack on my head and drank some water. It helped me feel a lot better,
kept me from getting lightheaded, and after about half an hour, I
removed the ice pack, washed my hand, and bandaged the wound. It was
much better by then as the bleeding had stopped.
Soft ice packs are excellent for emergencies. They can help stop
bleeding and reduce the amount of swelling. Great for headaches,
muscle aches, etc. I always keep several in my freezer, and i take at
least one soft pack in my cooler when traveling.
frie...@zoocrewphoto.com
> I remember playing around an old barn. I slipped and cut myself on a rusty
> nail. My mother cleaned the wound and then immediately took me to the
> doctor's office. She was much more concerned about the fact that it was an
> old, rusty nail than with the cut itself. That is when I received my first
> lesson on the possibility of lockjaw and the importance of tentanus
> injections. Booster shots today last much longer than I remember from that
> era.
>
I got my first tetanus shot a couple years ago after getting a
splinter stuck in my heal. Damn thing took 8 days to come out. The
doctor couldn't get it out without cutting at my heal as it went
straight in, and was in too deep for her tools. (I was at the
doctor's office, not the emergency room). We didn't know what it was,
so I got a shot. No biggie. The next day, I was sitting, watching tv,
and suddenly, ow! It flt like somebbody had punched me. It ached for a
couple hours after that. Really weird.
Nancy Young
> I got my first tetanus shot a couple years ago after getting a
> splinter stuck in my heal. Damn thing took 8 days to come out. The
> doctor couldn't get it out without cutting at my heal as it went
> straight in, and was in too deep for her tools.
Yikes.
> (I was at the
> doctor's office, not the emergency room). We didn't know what it was,
> so I got a shot. No biggie. The next day, I was sitting, watching tv,
> and suddenly, ow! It flt like somebbody had punched me. It ached for a
> couple hours after that. Really weird.
I had my last tetanus shot a really long time ago (I know, you're
supposed to get a booster every 10 years). They asked which was my
dominant arm and gave me the shot in the other arm. They told me
to take aspirin, which I didn't, and the next day I found out why.
Ouch! As you say, like Mike Tyson hit me on the arm. It was only
sore for a day or so.
nancy
Stu
wrote:
>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:itmgd8$rm8$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>I know this came up a while back. And now it happened. We were in a hurry.
>Been out shopping for hours. Came in with food from Taco Time. Both
>hungry. Cats wanted to eat. Told daughter to feed them while I put some
>stuff away.
>
>It all happened so quickly! She was opening the can. Wellness brand. Pop
>top lid. Blood everywhere. Seems like a huge cut. Doesn't want to stop
>bleeding. Finally told her to eat her dinner as best she can. Food is cold
>now. I have to eat. Seeing as how I have diabetes and our dinner is much
>delayed, wouldn't be safe for me to drive until I do.
>
>And then? Prolly going to the hospital unless buy some miracle the bleeding
>has stopped. Been about an hour now. Gah
>
>- - - - - - - - - - -
>
>Bleeding for an hour sounds dangerous, especially with the amount of blood
>you described. You should get some food (anything!!) fast, and then get
>Angela to the hospital ASAP. Don't waste time on the newsgroup. And be
>sure to ask about a tetanus shot unless you are sure her boosters are
>up-to-date. Please keep us updated.
>
>MaryL
Yes an hour is a very long time, stitches time!!! I keep a bottle of second
skin around just for this reason. A quick swipe, blow on it quickly to aid
drying and off to the hospital, really it's crazy glue by another name... but
it works, now get her to the hospital for a few stitches.
Storrmmee
<frie...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in message
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Brooklyn1
wrote:
Like I said, Julie probably couldn't remember the phone number for
911.
Brooklyn1
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
That's a big fat lie... no one ever said any such thing... should be
obvious to anyone who cooks that more cuts are from cans than cutlery.
People probably cut themselves at least once from every fifty cans
they open, but usually so small a nick they just keep going and by the
time they dump the contents of the can totally forget that tiny cut.
Only an idiot like you would post a whole magilla about a nick from a
can that really should have been forgotten. I'll have to remember to
post about every shaving nick.... Julie, next time you see blood shove
a styptic pencil up your ass... you'll forget all about the blood.
Ahahaha. . . .
Brooklyn1
People get their first tetanus shots as infants, in a series, combined
with other vacinations. You're supposed to receive a booster every
ten years but it will usually be repeated with most injuries that
occur after five years of the last booster.... that's why you're asked
when you got your last tetanus shot, and very few remember, so since
you're already in the ER you're given one anyway. If ever you're
being treated for an injury ask about a tetanus shot as many doctors
forget... just because a tetanus shot wasn't administered don't assume
that you don't need one... always ask. Nowadays medical personal are
not nearly so through as they once were... very few doctors today give
a through exam, most don't even ask that you remove your clothing and
don a gown. They have someone else weigh you and take your BP, they
make a cursory check with a stethoscope is all, they barely even look
at you... if someone didn't pull your chart and place it where the
doctor could see it they wouldn't know your name even though you're a
long time patient. I've been going to the same doctor now for ten
years and I'm still called Mr. Sheldon... no matter how many times I
remind the office staff to file my chart under Martin they still
insist on putting it under Sheldon, and then they can't find it until
I tell them where to look. Everyone misfiles me... most of my bills
are mailed to Martin Sheldon. I gave up trying to get the electric
company to change their records, even Verizon has my name backwards. I
can sign my checks either way and they still get cashed. My UPS
driver gets my name correct because he thinks Sheldon Martin is a
better name for a spy's car than Astin Martin.
Nancy Young
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:12:38 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I had my last tetanus shot a really long time ago (I know, you're
>> supposed to get a booster every 10 years). They asked which was my
>> dominant arm and gave me the shot in the other arm. They told me
>> to take aspirin, which I didn't, and the next day I found out why.
>> Ouch! As you say, like Mike Tyson hit me on the arm. It was only
>> sore for a day or so.
> People get their first tetanus shots as infants, in a series, combined
> with other vacinations. You're supposed to receive a booster every
> ten years but it will usually be repeated with most injuries that
> occur after five years of the last booster.... that's why you're asked
> when you got your last tetanus shot, and very few remember, so since
> you're already in the ER you're given one anyway.
I'm a serial tetanus shot liar. Next time it comes up I will confess
it's been decades since my last booster.
> don a gown. They have someone else weigh you and take your BP, they
> make a cursory check with a stethoscope is all, they barely even look
> at you... if someone didn't pull your chart and place it where the
> doctor could see it they wouldn't know your name even though you're a
> long time patient. I've been going to the same doctor now for ten
> years and I'm still called Mr. Sheldon... no matter how many times I
> remind the office staff to file my chart under Martin they still
> insist on putting it under Sheldon, and then they can't find it until
> I tell them where to look.
(laugh) That's funny. I guess not if it's you and especially not
if they need to get your records in an emergency.
> Everyone misfiles me... most of my bills
> are mailed to Martin Sheldon. I gave up trying to get the electric
> company to change their records, even Verizon has my name backwards. I
> can sign my checks either way and they still get cashed. My UPS
> driver gets my name correct because he thinks Sheldon Martin is a
> better name for a spy's car than Astin Martin.
I agree. Astin just doesn't roll off the tongue. They should
change that.
nancy
Julie Bove
"Stu" <in...@foodforu.ca> wrote in message
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The Dr. said she didn't need stitches. He said you only need those if the
wound doesn't close. Hers did.
Brooklyn1
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, after our being practically married for more than 15 years my
name should be familiar to you... Nancy and Sheldon sounds as familiar
as Nancy and Sluggo. LOL
Ema Nymton
>
> It does seem to be primarily in the case of injuries or travel (or
> location in a place where it would be difficult to get to medical
> care). In the event of an injury (even a minor one if it meets the
> right criteria for getting dirt into the wound), the physician will
> probably check to see when the last booster was given.
>
> MaryL
>
In Jamaica, my husband was playing basketball, and impaled his hand on
one of those spiky fences. He could not move, the spike went through his
hand. They had to cut the fence and they took him to the hospital, with
the fence still in his hand. The doctor removed the fence, repaired a
tendon, sutured him up, gave him a tetanus shot and some antibiotics.
There was no charge.
Becca
Ema Nymton
> Arrgh I should have read further into the thread before mentioning
> Super Glue. I had a nasty knife cut when I was working a few years
> ago. My boss took me to urgent care and the doctor closed it up with
> that (of course it wasn't a tube of Super Glue but I'm sure it was
> pretty much the same thing!)......worked great, I don't even have a
> scar.
At Target, I bought a skin glue called New Skin. It looks like a small
bottle of iodine or nail polish. I believe Nexicare also has one. It
works, but it burns like the fire from Hell.
Beca
Dave Smith
>
> In Jamaica, my husband was playing basketball, and impaled his hand on
> one of those spiky fences. He could not move, the spike went through his
> hand. They had to cut the fence and they took him to the hospital, with
> the fence still in his hand. The doctor removed the fence, repaired a
> tendon, sutured him up, gave him a tetanus shot and some antibiotics.
> There was no charge.
Ouch. I bet that hurt like hell. I once had a dig bit though my hand.
My own dog did it to me. Another dog had attacked him and had his back
leg in a vice grip. I made the mistake of trying to intervene, and I was
watching the other dog, not expecting that my own dog would bite me.
I saw a blur and felt a tooth it, but it was not until a few minutes
later that it started to hurt, and then I looked down and saw the blood
pouring out. I went to the ER where I was told that they don't usually
stitch dog bites, just clean them out and put a dressing on.... but
they stitched that one.
Holy cow that hurt, and it hurt for months, I have a whole new respect
for dog bites now. As far as I could recall I had not had a tetanus
shot for at least 10 years, so they gave me one. I was told to keep my
hand straight. It kept bending, and I had to straighten it out, which
really hurt.
I had to go to court that afternoon. I got a conviction on the case but
it was appealed. When I attended the appeal and picked up my notes from
the court officer there was blood on them.
Cheri
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:23:02 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote in message
>>news:itoq79$nam$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>> Oh we had insurance. You went to a doctor if you lost a limb or had a
>>> 106F fever.
>>
>>Sounds like we were siblings. LOL
>
> insurance. The first medical insurance was major medical, only kicked
> in for hospital admissions... there was no insurance for doctor
> visits, but then doctors didn't charge more than a couple of dollars
> for an office visit... I remember in the '50s doctors made house
> calls, cost $4... an extra dollar for a shot of penicillin. And if
> you didn't have all the money you could pay a dollar a week. Believe
> it or not there was a time not all that long ago when people didn't
> become MDs for the big money, they really wanted to help people...
> your kid to the corner pharmacy, or the barber shop... pharmacists and
> barbers would stitch and dress all kind of wounds, even bullet wounds,
> did tooth extractions too. My mother rushed me to the Whalens Drugs
> store on the corner several times... housewives didn't drive, and
> there was no 911. If something too serious for the pharmacy they'd
> phone a neighborhood doctor who'd leave an office full of patients and
> rush right over. The medical profession sure has changed, and not
> everything for the better, technology is better but as much as
> technology has escalated so has greed... and now we are on the brink
> of Obama Care, there'll be no medical care whatsoever.
I was a kid in the 50's too, and you're right. I once had a veterinarian
stitch up a wound on my head.
Cheri