OT: Anyone have about $250,00 I can use?

[John Kuthe]

I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK not
perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great potential!! I
knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each day I live
here!!

Yama! :-)

Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon. With
interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit, if we go
the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've ever owed
money to! :-)

John Kuthe...

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If you can't come up with $250,000 at your age, you are nowhere near "retired".

[W. Lohman]

On 4/26/2015 10:20 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK not
> perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great potential!! I
> knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each day I live
> here!!
>
> Yama! :-)
>
> Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon. With
> interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit, if we go
> the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've ever owed
> money to! :-)

Sure, you don't mind that is has 'Milton Bradley' printed on the back,
right?

[John Kuthe]

What do you trhink I'm trying to do??!!

Non-traditional financing. You are to stuck in the Ways Of Olde, old
man!! As Bob Dylan said:

Please get out of the way if you can't lend a hand
For the times they are a-changin'!!

:-)

Namaste to ya buddy! Seriously!!

[John Kuthe]

No, I want about $250,000 viable U.S. currency.

I don't want a morgage, I wanna buy this place outright. And I will
someday son, but I'd like to "move forward" on my plan sooner, like
NOW!! :-)

[W. Lohman]

On 4/26/2015 1:10 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:54:54 -0600, "W. Lohman" <wl...@yaho.om> wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2015 10:20 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK not
>>> perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great potential!! I
>>> knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each day I live
>>> here!!
>>>
>>> Yama! :-)
>>>
>>> Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon. With
>>> interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit, if we go
>>> the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've ever owed
>>> money to! :-)
>>
>> Sure, you don't mind that is has 'Milton Bradley' printed on the back,
>> right?
>
> No, I want about $250,000 viable U.S. currency.

Oh botheration!

No, none here to lend, or give.

> I don't want a morgage, I wanna buy this place outright. And I will
> someday son, but I'd like to "move forward" on my plan sooner, like
> NOW!! :-)
>

Ever hear of kickstarter?

Captain Kirk has:

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/21/william_shatners_insane_plan_to_solve_californias_drought_a_30_billion_pipeline_from_seattle/

If he can do THAT, why not you too?

[John Kuthe]

I could. I tried it one time, didn't work for me. You gotta have a LOT
more people contribute, and I don't know how to get enough peolle to
contribute enough. Kickstarter is a great idea though!! I helped a
local restaurant open a new location that way, bringing it all back to
food:

http://www.katiespizzacafe.com/

[W. Lohman]

That's defeatist thinking.

> You gotta have a LOT
> more people contribute, and I don't know how to get enough peolle to
> contribute enough.

Just be persuasive, use humor.

> Kickstarter is a great idea though!! I helped a
> local restaurant open a new location that way, bringing it all back to
> food:
>
> http://www.katiespizzacafe.com/

Well that's very cool!

Good on you.

Btw, a pricey menu, but some impressive pies.

I would go for the fingerling potato or egg pizza.

[John Kuthe]

Yeah,m everything today is kinda pricey, unfortunately. Katie's makes
a damm good pizza though, I've had them! I got a complimentary one for
contyributing to their Kickstarter program! Went back once at ful
price too! Damn good pizzas!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 3:11:02 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:54:54 -0600, "W. Lohman" <wl...@yaho.om> wrote:
>
> >On 4/26/2015 10:20 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK not
> >> perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great potential!! I
> >> knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each day I live
> >> here!!
> >>
> >> Yama! :-)
> >>
> >> Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon. With
> >> interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit, if we go
> >> the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've ever owed
> >> money to! :-)
> >
> >Sure, you don't mind that is has 'Milton Bradley' printed on the back,
> >right?
>
> No, I want about $250,000 viable U.S. currency.
>
> I don't want a morgage, I wanna buy this place outright. And I will
> someday son, but I'd like to "move forward" on my plan sooner, like
> NOW!! :-)

So, you want someone to give you $250,000 as an unsecured loan when
you have no visible means of support to repay the loan.

I think Monopoly money is the very best you're going to manage.

Cindy Hamilton

[John Kuthe]

Yes. This is how we have to start changing OUR World. The Mammon
Worshiping moneychangers have more of OUR money than ever before, and
it's got to stop. And We The People CAN take back the power!

I don'r expect any positive substantive response to my request,
really, although I'd be overjoyed if a "money fairy" as I say stepped
up and loaned me $250,000 right now. And I WILL pay it back, in full,
within the next 5-10 years at the very most! Maybe even with a little
"interest" to make it worth the money fairy's while.

We need to stop "charging interest" and just help our fellow people
when they need it, either through interest free loans or outright
gifts! I KNOW this sounds crazy to many, and that's part of the
problem we have too! Everyone it seems has becomne complacent and
thinks this is all "normal" and how it should be! But just imagine how
much BETTER everything COULD be!!

Namaste!

[taxed and spent]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If everyone sat back for this free money, the world would stop spinning on
its axis. It is bad enough as it is with all the free government money
(i.e. MY taxes) being handed out to all those people who have already become
complacent.

If you promise to pay it back, why do you fear a mortgage?

[Brooklyn1]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:47:42 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You got the "fairy" part right... find a street corner in Fairy Land
and peddle your orifices... at $10 a trick how many years will it take
to put that roof over your head... and you'd best get a move on
because in a few more year you'll be at an age where you'd be lucky to
be paid $2 for services.

[Paul M. Cook]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Are your the dud ewho criticised my typos? Seriously dude, you'se a spell
czecker.

[John Kuthe]

The Evil Banks control the NOTE, not the mortgage. The mortgage is a
"dead pledge" which does not come alive unless and until you default
on the note. I know a little about real estate finacing. I don't want
a note, I wanna buy this house outright, cash. I can probably
negotiate a better price for myself with the current owners that way
too.

And the world will not stop spinning on it's axis for a LONG time, 5
billion years by Neil de Grassi's estimates:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29x64uc&s=8#.VT5rZNJViko

I do not want to enrich our current Owners in any way, shape or form,
anymore than I have to. These Owners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_62s9RW9E

[John Kuthe]

Oh ShelDUM!!! Your homophobia is raging again, dear! ;-)

Sorry buddy, I may be 1/2 male and 1/2 female genderwise, but I'm
99.44% heterosexual male sexually!!

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:54:08 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
wrote:

I'm using the last FREE version of Free Agent, no spellcheckers
available!! :-(

John Kuthe...

[Paul M. Cook]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Odd they would still call it free, then.

[W. Lohman]

Then do it and quit talking about it.

> And the world will not stop spinning on it's axis for a LONG time, 5
> billion years by Neil de Grassi's estimates:
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29x64uc&s=8#.VT5rZNJViko

Climate change may make future spins homonid free however.

> I do not want to enrich our current Owners in any way, shape or form,
> anymore than I have to. These Owners:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_62s9RW9E
>

Funny guy, pity the drugs were such a problem to him.

[W. Lohman]

Thunderbird is free and does check spelling.

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:26:34 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>

Yep, it's FREE!! For just $19.95!

But wait! There's MORE!! Call now and get a FREE...

;-)

Fucking Marketers!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Question remains: Got $250,000 I can use for as while?

I'm trying!!

>
>> And the world will not stop spinning on it's axis for a LONG time, 5
>> billion years by Neil de Grassi's estimates:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29x64uc&s=8#.VT5rZNJViko
>
>Climate change may make future spins homonid free however.
>
>> I do not want to enrich our current Owners in any way, shape or form,
>> anymore than I have to. These Owners:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_62s9RW9E
>>
>
>
>Funny guy, pity the drugs were such a problem to him.

Nahh, not like they were for another very funny great guy, Saint
George's contemporary, Saint Pryor!! But they both had a lot of fun,
and gave US a lot of fun too!

[John Kuthe]

Thunderbird doesn't know email from newsgroups! I do!!

Fuck Thunderbird!!

John Kuthe...

[meda...@gmail.com]

I'm about your age. I can come up with $250,000 without financing, although it would involve some financial juggling I'd rather not do. I already own my home outright, so I have no incentive. I'm trying to get it together to retire in 10 years. Again, if it's not possible for you to pull together that amount you're not anywhere close to retiring.

[John Kuthe]

Cool for you!

Good thing I don't compare myself to others, too seriously, ever since
I was a teen one time walking into a shopping mall once and I became
SO self concious and anxious I began to walk funny! And I THOUGHT!!

Thinking is a good thing, you should try it more often! I can't help
it, I do it all the time, sometimes too much, In fact that is why I
was diagnosed Bipolar Disorder, I could not stop thinking and it was
as they say driving me crazy!

But I disgress. I thoujhght to myself in the above malll scene, what
do *I* do sitting around in a shopping mall? I watch people too. I
especially watch the cute girls/women! YUM! But guys? Nahhh not
interested. So I estimated that most of the people who MAY be watching
me probably wouldn't give a shit anyway. Assuaged my "public
appearance" greatly! And the ones who did give a shit? Fuck ;em!

Sick and sad how you equate a fellow human;s worth to their finacial
status. Very sick and sad. Of course you are the product of this sick
sad culture of Worshiping Mammon, so it is to be expeced of the small
minded.

[taxed and spent]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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The use of such notes varies among jurisdictions. And the bank has nothing
to do with a mortgage/note held by someone other than the bank.

I don't want
> a note, I wanna buy this house outright, cash.

And owe someone $250k. How is that different (for you)?

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:08:19 -0700, "taxed and spent"

How it;s different is that WE have the control. Me and the person *I*
owe the $250,000 to. No one else. No government, no banks, and NO
STINKING OWNERS!! We set the terms, etc.

And you want a credit check? Ask ANYONE I have EVER owed money to, and
they will tell you: John Kuthe PAYS his finacialk depts. Even ask
Bryan, I'll bet even he will back me up on this, and he hates my guts
right now!

[jmcquown]

Know one is going to lend him anything. It's just another BS excuse for
posting here.

Jill

[taxed and spent]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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How is a private party loaning you money and taking a mortgage on the house
a problem for you, vs. just borrowing the money with no mortgage? The
private lender will want this type of control, i.e. security for his loan.
And the interest rate will be lower (or the loan possibly attainable).

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:49:04 -0700, "taxed and spent"

Because a private loan between me and a lender does not in ANY WAY
involve out Owners or our government, in any way shape or form. I want
no part of either, which actually are one and the same, almost, since
our government is basically a wholly or substantially owned subsidiary
and money making machine for and by our Owners!! FUCK THEM BOTH!! I
want OUT and AWAY from that shit!!

I am an ethical being, and anyone can ask anyone I have EVER owed
money to, I PAY MY DEBTS! In full and with interest when it is
demanded. I am trying my best to make and operate within a better word
via better way. I want to buy this house I'm currently renting cash
outright, no note and mortgage at all! I don't mind paying the
relativey miniscule am ounts for the real estate tax to our
government, as well as the also miniscule inspections, etc. involved
in making a real estate purchase. I've done it before and In recognize
the government's need of revenue from that stuff to do all ther great
things the government DOES do for U.S. But I want NO part of our
Owners money, which is what I'm be using if I got a loan from a bank
or a mortgage broker.

Now, you have $250,000 you can loan me? Or not. If not, STFU.

Namaste!

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 22:29:11 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:33:43 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Know one is going to lend him anything. It's just another BS excuse for
>> posting here.
>

>He's on one of his manic highs.
>
>-sw

No, this is an honest and earnest question. All it takes is one
sufficiently rich and eminently ethical individual in a position to
deal with me as an ethical benevolent human, and I'd be able to retire
once the deal is transacted, and *I* would start collecting the rent
on this place rather than paying it! There are 6 bedrooms in this
house, meaning I'd collect 5x$340 every month, which I assume the
other five tenrants are paying. I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd
own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.

That is not the ranting of someone on a manic high, that my friends is
sound rational financial planning! :-)

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:03:32 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>No, this is an honest and earnest question. All it takes is one
>sufficiently rich and eminently ethical individual in a position to
>deal with me as an ethical benevolent human, and I'd be able to retire
>once the deal is transacted, and *I* would start collecting the rent
>on this place rather than paying it! There are 6 bedrooms in this
>house, meaning I'd collect 5x$340 every month, which I assume the
>other five tenrants are paying. I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd
>own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
>me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
>with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.

Things simply don't work that way. $1700 pm isn't a lot either, not
enough to save anything and half of it will be eaten up in maintenance
and other unexpected associated costs anyway. But good luck with it
regardless.

[Nunya Bidnits]

>Anyone have about $250,000 I can use?

<blink>

I'd like an Audi R8 and a custom spec food truck as long as
we're making requests. I'll pay off them both with the food
truck when I'm not out driving my R8. Mmkay?

[John Kuthe]

No they don't "work this way", but they should. I'm doing my part,
asking for trust and the use of $250,000. I AM trustworthy, ask anyone
I've ever owed money! Even ask Bryan, who hates my guts!! I'll bet
even HE would vouch for my trustworthiness!

[John Kuthe]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:22:35 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:03:32 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>No, this is an honest and earnest question. All it takes is one
>>>sufficiently rich and eminently ethical individual in a position to
>>>deal with me as an ethical benevolent human, and I'd be able to retire
>>>once the deal is transacted, and *I* would start collecting the rent
>>>on this place rather than paying it! There are 6 bedrooms in this
>>>house, meaning I'd collect 5x$340 every month, which I assume the
>>>other five tenrants are paying. I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd
>>>own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
>>>me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
>>>with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.
>

>Yep. He's nuts. Like, Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs nuts.
>
>-sw

Nuts like YOUR GOD!! (No, not really nuts but just as trust worthy, I
guarantee it!)

[W. Lohman]

On 4/27/2015 9:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> He's on one of his manic highs.
>
> -sw

And where are you now hamster, in the low phase?

[John Kuthe]

If I had it and I coujld afford it, I'd buy you what y9ou want,
outright, no repayment required. IF I could, afford it and still live
myself. Modestly as I always have and always will.

Because I think (not believe!) that would be a nice, good and useful
thing to so for a fellow human. And I think it's a RIGHT thing to do
too! I hater money, most of us just have to have it to live. I know I
do, now, in my present situation which I like, and do not forsee being
ever able to live without money, at age 55 in my present situation,
and at 55, dont think I could survive maybe at all in a "primitive"
environment/situation/culture, devoid of the use or need for money.

How nuts is that! But that's what I'd rather!

[W. Lohman]

No, it's wishful thinking.

[W. Lohman]

On 4/27/2015 10:22 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Yep. He's nuts. Like, Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs nuts.
>
> -sw

Shu Mai, pipe down.

[W. Lohman]

On 4/27/2015 10:28 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> I'd like an Audi R8 and a custom spec food truck

NO.

You lack the class for the former and you ruin ribs with the latter.

[John Kuthe]

Yep, and I have physical objective EVIDENCE of it this AM!! I'll not
bore anyone with it this glorious next morning after last night's po
postings, BUT IT'S REAL!!!

OK, the objective evidence:

1. Physically I feel the best I ever have this AM, what with my most
recent MS exacerbation's recovery, and

2. I put a full width sheet of white paper under the front of my leaky
Minivan last evening when I got home, and just stepped out and
examined it this AM, and there's only one little leaky drip on it!!! I
was gonna drive it down to the shop this AM to have them fix more of
what I'm almost positive was a LOT more little leaks across the front,
but I think now I will have to take Baby down to your U-Squirt-It-Off
carwash and try and wash off as best I can the underside under there
and then redo the leak test to more accurately test for more leaks, to
see of they are new or just residual oil from the leak they fixed
continuing to drip off the underside!

QEfuckingD!!!!

Namaste! :-)

[Moe DeLoughan]

On 4/27/2015 12:03 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:52:58 -0700, "taxed and spent"
> <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:

>> If you promise to pay it back, why do you fear a mortgage?
>>
>
> The Evil Banks control the NOTE, not the mortgage. The mortgage is a
> "dead pledge" which does not come alive unless and until you default
> on the note. I know a little about real estate finacing.

Not nearly enough, and looks like most of what you think you know is
wrong.


I don't want

> a note, I wanna buy this house outright, cash. I can probably
> negotiate a better price for myself with the current owners that way
> too.

Why should they care whether they get the cash from you or from the
mortgage lender?

> I do not want to enrich our current Owners in any way, shape or form,
> anymore than I have to.
>

But you want to be personally enriched by demanding that people who
have the green just give it to you, when they could've made money by
investing it elsewhere.

Here's a suggestion: approach the current owners about buying it on a
contract for deed. You make the monthly payment to them, they continue
to hold title until you pay it in full. If you miss a payment, you're
out on your ass and they retain the money paid and the property.
That's to motivate you to make your payments, while minimizing their
risk. After a few years of steady payments, you can then apply for a
mortgage and the lender will consider your payment history in the
qualification process.

[Cindy Hamilton]

What you're hoping for is contrary to human nature. We are evolved to
protect our family, and to seek advantage from everyone else.

Cindy Hamilton

[Moe DeLoughan]

It's the very pie-in-the-sky fantasy about "investing" in real estate
and "earning" passive income that brought about the recent real estate
bubble and subsequent crash that nearly took down our economy.

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:01:12 -0500, Moe DeLoughan <m...@notmine.null>
wrote:

GREAT IDEA!! Thank you, I will consider it more after I finish my
breakfast!!

Namaste!

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

I know. Purely following "human nature" is as flawed as lassies faire
(SP?) Capitalism and has dug U.S. into the financial hole we are in
right now.

I'm trying to fix it!!

Namaste.

[Ophelia]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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So, are you saying that if we all borrow $250,000 the financial hole will be
plugged?

I am willing to help, so, will you please lend me $250,000? ;-)


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

[taxed and spent]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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will you give me a mortgage?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/27/2015 11:55 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you promise to pay it back, why do you fear a mortgage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Evil Banks control the NOTE, not the mortgage. The mortgage is a
>>>>> "dead pledge" which does not come alive unless and until you default
>>>>> on the note. I know a little about real estate finacing.

>>>> And owe someone $250k. How is that different (for you)?
>>>>
>>>
>>> How it;s different is that WE have the control. Me and the person *I*
>>> owe the $250,000 to. No one else. No government, no banks, and NO
>>> STINKING OWNERS!! We set the terms, etc.

If you intend to deduct the interest on your taxes, the government does
get involved. They also want the interest to be close to the going
rate. There may be ways to cover it up, but if it is a recorded
mortgage, there is possible scrutiny

Personally, if I was lending that much, I'd want it recorded. .

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/28/2015 12:03 AM, John Kuthe wrote:

> I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd
> own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
> me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
> with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.

From that pure income you deduct town taxes and insurance and upkeep
for the properly. I'd not want to try and live on that little, but if
you can, go for it.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/28/2015 1:01 AM, John Kuthe wrote:

>> Things simply don't work that way. $1700 pm isn't a lot either, not
>> enough to save anything and half of it will be eaten up in maintenance
>> and other unexpected associated costs anyway. But good luck with it
>> regardless.
>
> No they don't "work this way", but they should. I'm doing my part,
> asking for trust and the use of $250,000. I AM trustworthy, ask anyone
> I've ever owed money! Even ask Bryan, who hates my guts!! I'll bet
> even HE would vouch for my trustworthiness!
>
> John Kuthe...

Have you calculated the payments due on a 20 or 30 year loan? You can't
retire.

[John Kuthe]

I live VERY imexpensively, I've been doing it for 25 years now, I'm
used to it. It's my "normal" now. Much cheaper than most filthily rich
United Statesians!! I'm a tree hugging dirt worshiping Hippie and it
does my soul good to live that way! :-) Still living richer than much
of the humans on the planet though! This I know, and I feel very
grateful for whenever I think about it!

Namaste buddy!

[John Kuthe]

No, I'm just feeling out the problem right now.

[John Kuthe]

Comfusing text and quoting. :-(

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:55:31 -0700, "taxed and spent"

Of course!

[John Kuthe]

I'm thinking now of approaching my landlord with the idea I got here
in RFD for a:

>Here's a suggestion: approach the current owners about buying it on a
>contract for deed. You make the monthly payment to them, they continue
>to hold title until you pay it in full. If you miss a payment, you're
>out on your ass and they retain the money paid and the property.
>That's to motivate you to make your payments, while minimizing their
>risk. After a few years of steady payments, you can then apply for a
>mortgage and the lender will consider your payment history in the
>qualification process.

Only in a few years I will have the $250,000 cash so I will not have
to approach any fuckling finacial institution OWNED BY OUR OWNERS!!
HA!!!

This was a good suggestion, I'm considering it! Who woulda think it
that one could get good and sound real estate investing advice off
RFD! :-) Just goes to show, it never hurts to ask! :-)

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:24:16 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Plus he said he was going to repay the $250,000 (plus interest) within
>10 years. That's $2,200/month. Minus $1,700 month, minus property
>taxes, insurance, upkeep, partial utilities, that means he'll need to
>EARN $800/month just to break even. And even after all that he's
>still flat broke after that.
>
>Yeah, who wants to loan John the Financial Genius $250,000?
>
>And to think I've been missing out on all these gems by having John
>killfiled.
>
>ObFood: Ice cold iodine cocktail for breakfast (for kidney CT).
>Italian sub and marble tea eggs afterwards.
>
>-sw

You fail to realize!!!

Namaste my good human (I hope, and not a bot!!)

[Moe DeLoughan]

There's at least one good reason why the current owner hasn't done
this himself. John should think about that. Zoning would be the very
first thing to come to mind. If it's in a residential neighborhood,
odds are it cannot be legally converted into a boardinghouse, which is
basically what John is proposing.

Zoning, insurance, neighbors, police calls, repairs, upkeep, and
issues with bad tenants. Playing landlord isn't for the inexperienced,
nor for those who haven't got the financial resources to cover the
upkeep and the inevitable unexpected expenses. Especially since
house-sharing is the last resort for renters, which means John would
be renting to the most desperate and thus highest-risk pool - the
deadbeats, the druggies, the dealers, the down-and-outers.

It's a pipe dream.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/28/2015 11:31 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 4/28/2015 9:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/28/2015 12:03 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd
>>> own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
>>> me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
>>> with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.
>>
>> From that pure income you deduct town taxes and insurance and upkeep
>> for the properly. I'd not want to try and live on that little, but if
>> you can, go for it.
>
> There's at least one good reason why the current owner hasn't done this
> himself. John should think about that. Zoning would be the very first
> thing to come to mind. If it's in a residential neighborhood, odds are
> it cannot be legally converted into a boardinghouse, which is basically
> what John is proposing.

There is a case in CT right now that involves a few couple that got
together and bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood. Turns out,
there is a regulation as to how many non-related people can live in the
same house.

http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-hartford-scarborough-st-0219-20150218-story.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hartford-connecticut-11-live-in-single-family-home-could-be-forced-out/

[Moe DeLoughan]

On 4/28/2015 10:18 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:05:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>> Have you calculated the payments due on a 20 or 30 year loan? You can't
>> retire.
>
> No, I'm just feeling out the problem right now.

$250K for 30 years at 4.5% (high risk mortgage, since you've got poor
credit prospects and this is a high-risk proposition: about
$1270/month. On top of that will be property taxes and insurance. Your
insurance will be quite high, since you'll be operating the home as a
business. Depending on your area, your monthly PITI (payment,
interest, taxes, insurance) could easily be twice the mortgage payment
alone. Plus utilities. Plus repairs and upkeep. Plus legal expenses.

Like I said, we recently went through a national experiment in amateur
real estate investment and playing landlord, and it was catastrophic.
We know from experience that the vast majority of persons attempting
this will fail.

[Moe DeLoughan]

The current owner would have to be either insane or unscrupulous to go
for it. It's a common method hereabouts for families and neighbors
help their kids or their friends' kids get a start on home ownership,
but it is an extremely risky proposition to perform with a stranger.
Sure, you retain title - but just try getting rid of the people after
they've quit paying. The scummiest, savviest lowlifes look for the
inexperienced landlords who won't know how to get them out, and who
won't have the resources to do it the cheapest way possible.

I do know a couple of unscrupulous 'real estate investors' who perform
this as a shell game. They lure in unqualified buyers who just can't
get a home any other way, collect their monthly payments, and the
first time they're late on their payment, boom - they're evicted, and
the owner just finds another sucker. The same house can be 'sold' on a
contract for deed time and time again. It can be profitable if you are
able to get the suckers out before they destroy the property in
retaliation.

[W. Lohman]

On 4/28/2015 9:24 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> And to think I've been missing out on all these gems by having John
> killfiled.

Right...

The imaginary killfile is real big around here, little dumpling.

[W. Lohman]

On 4/28/2015 9:40 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> But no, he obviously hasn't thought this through and has proven he
> can't be trusted with managing his, or anyone else's money.
>
> -sw


Bugger off, Shu Mai.

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:40:37 -0500, Moe DeLoughan <m...@notmine.null>
wrote:

I thank you very much for the idea. I cannot fail. I must not.
Otherwise it' back to suicide by hypothermia as my future plans.

I'ver got tons goinmg on that I am NOT talking about. Never assume any
post I make here is the entirety of my situation. No one here will
ever know that!! :-)

Namaste.

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:31:40 -0500, Moe DeLoughan <m...@notmine.null>
wrote:

All good things to consider! Thank you. Like I say in another post,
there's a LOT more to my situation than I as talking about here!

[John Kuthe]

Regulations, regulations, regulations! FUCKING regulations!!

;-)

[Nunya Bidnits]

"Moe DeLoughan" wrote in message
news:mhoa3m$3k1$1...@dont-email.me...

>I do know a couple of unscrupulous 'real estate investors' who
>perform this as a shell game. They lure in unqualified buyers
>who just can't get a home any other way, collect their monthly
>payments, and the first time they're late on their payment,
>boom - they're evicted, and the owner just finds another
>sucker.

It's the Buy Here Pay Here of mortgages!

OTOH, as I overheard an old used car salesman say about high car
payments:
"You can sleep in your car, but you can't drive your house."
lol

[W. Lohman]

On 4/28/2015 11:24 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> OTOH, as I overheard an old used car salesman say about high car payments:
> "You can sleep in your car, but you can't drive your house."

Another one of your greaseball friends?

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> That is not the ranting of someone on a manic high,

Yes it is, John. Get back on your meds. I'm serious.

[Moe DeLoughan]

I'll give you this: at least you're polite to the people pissing all
over your dream.

An approach more likely to bear fruit might be to simply find a small
apartment complex in your area - say, one that has from six to two or
three dozen units - and see if the owner is looking for a
handyman/supervisor/manager. The usual deal is you get your own
apartment rent free in exchange for performing the routine maintenance
chores.

[Moe DeLoughan]

And while you're at it, look into applying for SSDI and getting your
name on some Section 8 housing voucher wait lists.

[dsi1]

You're serious? Why didn't you say so in the first place? This changes everything! :-)

[jmcquown]

Yep, that's the way it worked (at least for a while) at my last
apartment in TN. The maintenance/handyman guy got a free apartment in
return for basic repairs. If, for example, a stove (they were all
electric) needed a new element or had to be swapped out, he took care of
it. IIRC there were about 120 apartments in that complex.

Jill

[dsi1]

My wife's family had that deal with their condo. They were a good resident manager. The kids would do the maintenance on the property and they would get their mortgage paid by the association. When my father-in-law was on the board, he would keep a strict lock on the monies going out. My wife's family was probably the best thing that could have happened to that condo.

The condo that I live in has a piss poor management. The resident manager owned a unit but would rent out the condo's apartment, keep the money, and also get paid. It was a super sweet deal for him. Obviously, he was working in cahoots with the management company because the association would get charged $500 to haul some trash away. When I see a charge of "$500" several times in the budget sheet it says to me something fishy is going on. I was on the board and we never could get an accounting of what monies was being involved.

In the end we tried to get rid of both these guys but they got rid of us. We went out with a bang - we had to have cops present in case there was a riot. What I learned from being on the board was that people are pretty stupid and as you might know, you can't fix stupid. :-)

[John Kuthe]

50mg Seroquel, every night! "HS" as we medicos call it!! I think of it
as Hours Sleep. It's not but that's how I remember what "HS" means.

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:50:30 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I was diagnosed Bipolar Disorder last March 2014. Tool me amonth and a
bunch of moiney to find a psych drug 1) I could afford and 2) didn't
make me a chemical lobotomy victim!! I didn't want a chemical
lobotomy, which is what some especially old psych drugs did. Seroquel
50mg HS (every night) saved my life, and I can FUNCTION!! Yay!

I take one every night! Only $10 for a 90 day supply! Very affordable
and it HELPS me! :-)

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 00:01:02 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:09:29 +1000, Jeßus <z...@zcv.org.au> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:03:32 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>No, this is an honest and earnest question. All it takes is one
>>>sufficiently rich and eminently ethical individual in a position to
>>>deal with me as an ethical benevolent human, and I'd be able to retire
>>>once the deal is transacted, and *I* would start collecting the rent
>>>on this place rather than paying it! There are 6 bedrooms in this
>>>house, meaning I'd collect 5x$340 every month, which I assume the
>>>other five tenrants are paying. I'd have ZERO as my rent, because I'd

>>>own the place outright!! And $1700/mo income, PURE income, would suit
>>>me JUST FINE!! I'd be able to retire immediately! At 55 years of age,
>>>with a perpetual income for the rest of my life.
>>

>>Things simply don't work that way. $1700 pm isn't a lot either, not
>>enough to save anything and half of it will be eaten up in maintenance
>>and other unexpected associated costs anyway. But good luck with it
>>regardless.
>
>No they don't "work this way", but they should.

Except that it couldn't possibly work on any scale.

>I'm doing my part,
>asking for trust and the use of $250,000. I AM trustworthy, ask anyone
>I've ever owed money! Even ask Bryan, who hates my guts!! I'll bet
>even HE would vouch for my trustworthiness!

I'm not sure if you're pulling our legs here or what at this point...

[taxed and spent]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5a9vja95e7ufru10u...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:55:31 -0700, "taxed and spent"
> <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:qg0ujapciiue2pr6k...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:49:04 -0700, "taxed and spent"
>>> <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:laatja1udfdnneeeq...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:08:19 -0700, "taxed and spent"
>>>>> <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4gqsjal13qo3tkhar...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:52:58 -0700, "taxed and spent"
>>>>>>> <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:teisjah65vd8fe3s8...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:36:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 3:11:02 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:54:54 -0600, "W. Lohman" <wl...@yaho.om>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >On 4/26/2015 10:20 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK
>>>>>>>>>>> >> not
>>>>>>>>>>> >> perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great
>>>>>>>>>>> >> potential!!
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>>>>>> >> knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each
>>>>>>>>>>> >> day
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>>>>>> >> live
>>>>>>>>>>> >> here!!
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Yama! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> With
>>>>>>>>>>> >> interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> if
>>>>>>>>>>> >> we
>>>>>>>>>>> >> go
>>>>>>>>>>> >> the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've
>>>>>>>>>>> >> ever
>>>>>>>>>>> >> owed
>>>>>>>>>>> >> money to! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Sure, you don't mind that is has 'Milton Bradley' printed on
>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>>>>>>>>>>> >back,
>>>>>>>>>>> >right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, I want about $250,000 viable U.S. currency.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want a morgage, I wanna buy this place outright. And I
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> someday son, but I'd like to "move forward" on my plan sooner,
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> NOW!! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So, you want someone to give you $250,000 as an unsecured loan
>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>you have no visible means of support to repay the loan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I think Monopoly money is the very best you're going to manage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. This is how we have to start changing OUR World. The Mammon
>>>>>>>>> Worshiping moneychangers have more of OUR money than ever before,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it's got to stop. And We The People CAN take back the power!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don'r expect any positive substantive response to my request,
>>>>>>>>> really, although I'd be overjoyed if a "money fairy" as I say
>>>>>>>>> stepped
>>>>>>>>> up and loaned me $250,000 right now. And I WILL pay it back, in
>>>>>>>>> full,
>>>>>>>>> within the next 5-10 years at the very most! Maybe even with a
>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>> "interest" to make it worth the money fairy's while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need to stop "charging interest" and just help our fellow
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> when they need it, either through interest free loans or outright
>>>>>>>>> gifts! I KNOW this sounds crazy to many, and that's part of the
>>>>>>>>> problem we have too! Everyone it seems has becomne complacent and
>>>>>>>>> thinks this is all "normal" and how it should be! But just imagine
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> much BETTER everything COULD be!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Namaste!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If everyone sat back for this free money, the world would stop
>>>>>>>>spinning
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>its axis. It is bad enough as it is with all the free government
>>>>>>>>money
>>>>>>>>(i.e. MY taxes) being handed out to all those people who have
>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>become
>>>>>>>>complacent.

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you promise to pay it back, why do you fear a mortgage?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Evil Banks control the NOTE, not the mortgage. The mortgage is a
>>>>>>> "dead pledge" which does not come alive unless and until you default
>>>>>>> on the note. I know a little about real estate finacing.
>>>>>>

>>>>>>The use of such notes varies among jurisdictions. And the bank has
>>>>>>nothing
>>>>>>to do with a mortgage/note held by someone other than the bank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't want
>>>>>>> a note, I wanna buy this house outright, cash.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>And owe someone $250k. How is that different (for you)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How it;s different is that WE have the control. Me and the person *I*
>>>>> owe the $250,000 to. No one else. No government, no banks, and NO
>>>>> STINKING OWNERS!! We set the terms, etc.
>>>>>

>>>>> And you want a credit check? Ask ANYONE I have EVER owed money to, and
>>>>> they will tell you: John Kuthe PAYS his finacialk depts. Even ask
>>>>> Bryan, I'll bet even he will back me up on this, and he hates my guts
>>>>> right now!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How is a private party loaning you money and taking a mortgage on the
>>>>house
>>>>a problem for you, vs. just borrowing the money with no mortgage? The
>>>>private lender will want this type of control, i.e. security for his
>>>>loan.
>>>>And the interest rate will be lower (or the loan possibly attainable).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because a private loan between me and a lender does not in ANY WAY
>>> involve out Owners or our government, in any way shape or form. I want
>>> no part of either, which actually are one and the same, almost, since
>>> our government is basically a wholly or substantially owned subsidiary
>>> and money making machine for and by our Owners!! FUCK THEM BOTH!! I
>>> want OUT and AWAY from that shit!!
>>>
>>> I am an ethical being, and anyone can ask anyone I have EVER owed
>>> money to, I PAY MY DEBTS! In full and with interest when it is
>>> demanded. I am trying my best to make and operate within a better word
>>> via better way. I want to buy this house I'm currently renting cash
>>> outright, no note and mortgage at all! I don't mind paying the
>>> relativey miniscule am ounts for the real estate tax to our
>>> government, as well as the also miniscule inspections, etc. involved
>>> in making a real estate purchase. I've done it before and In recognize
>>> the government's need of revenue from that stuff to do all ther great
>>> things the government DOES do for U.S. But I want NO part of our
>>> Owners money, which is what I'm be using if I got a loan from a bank
>>> or a mortgage broker.
>>>
>>> Now, you have $250,000 you can loan me? Or not. If not, STFU.
>>>
>>> Namaste!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>>
>>will you give me a mortgage?
>>
>
> Of course!
>

Oh wait - you might think of me as one of the OWNERS, so I guess you don't
want to deal with me. Bummer.

[jmcquown]

I sincerely hope so. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would
"loan" this guy money with the promise it would be paid back in X amount
of years. From "rental income"? Yeah, right. Obviously doesn't have a
clue what owning property entails.

I never saw such wishful thinking! No one on rfc is going to "loan"
Kuthe $250K.

Maybe he and Bryan can combine the royalties from "Winter's Whatever"
(do be sure to mention that $0.00 book every chance you get, Bryan) and
buy the house together! Then they can get into another online fight.

Do I have the right channel? This *is* the Kuthe and Bryan show, isn't
it? LOLOL

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:03:39 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

John did mention somewhere today that he has been diagnosed with
bipolar, so...

>Maybe he and Bryan can combine the royalties from "Winter's Whatever"
>(do be sure to mention that $0.00 book every chance you get, Bryan) and
>buy the house together! Then they can get into another online fight.
>
>Do I have the right channel? This *is* the Kuthe and Bryan show, isn't
>it? LOLOL

OMG. You've solved his problem. If he can talk Bryan into going along
with your idea. They could fill the house with web cams, and ppl can
watch by subscription. I know I'd be a customer.

[John Kuthe]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:48:26 -0700, "taxed and spent"

Do you have several billion dollars? If not, you are the Owned. Maybe
very well off, but still Owned!

Listen to Saint George again if it's not clear to you:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_62s9RW9E

[John Kuthe]

Bipolar Disorder March 2014, am well controled now on 50mg Seroquel
every evening>

>
>>Maybe he and Bryan can combine the royalties from "Winter's Whatever"
>>(do be sure to mention that $0.00 book every chance you get, Bryan) and
>>buy the house together! Then they can get into another online fight.
>>
>>Do I have the right channel? This *is* the Kuthe and Bryan show, isn't
>>it? LOLOL
>
>OMG. You've solved his problem. If he can talk Bryan into going along
>with your idea. They could fill the house with web cams, and ppl can
>watch by subscription. I know I'd be a customer.

Oh bloody Hell! Bryan hates me and has a pretty prevalent ubiquitous
psychological problem I suspect is Narcississtic Personality Disorder.
I've known him since Summer school betwen my Sophomore and Junior
years, his Freshman and Sophomore years in high school, 1975 I think.
He's always been this way, same as I've always been the way I am too.
My mental disorder just suddenly became intolerable for me last March,
I dunno why, I thought at first is was the super cold Winter we had,
the fact that I was recently unemployed, socially isolated and I
thought at first it was what the call "cabin fever". But it started to
cause mne serious delusiuons like Christian based religious epiphenies
(I'm 100% atheist and can explain why!) and sleep disturbance, so I
knew I had to get some help, or commit suicide which was right off the
options list, I knew. So I went to the ER just like everyone else with
no health insurance does. Got the help I needed, then I started to see
what Bryan's problem might be. His problem in seeking and getting help
is his disorder doesn't seem unmanagable to him!! He thinks he's doing
"just fine", but he's not. Never was. :-(

[Username]

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/27/2015 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 3:11:02 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:54:54 -0600, "W. Lohman" <wl...@yaho.om> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2015 10:20 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> I'm definitely buying this house!! It's PERFECT!! Well, OK not
>>>>> perfect, it needs a LOT of work!! But it's got great potential!! I
>>>>> knew that right away too, and I know it more and more each day I live
>>>>> here!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yama! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have about $250,000 I can use? I'll pay it back, soon. With
>>>>> interest if you want. We'll have to sign a contract and shit, if
>>>>> we go
>>>>> the interest route. I ALWAYS pay my debts, ask anyone I've ever owed
>>>>> money to! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you don't mind that is has 'Milton Bradley' printed on the back,
>>>> right?
>>>
>>> No, I want about $250,000 viable U.S. currency.
>>>
>>> I don't want a morgage, I wanna buy this place outright. And I will
>>> someday son, but I'd like to "move forward" on my plan sooner, like
>>> NOW!! :-)
>>
>> So, you want someone to give you $250,000 as an unsecured loan when
>> you have no visible means of support to repay the loan.
>>
>> I think Monopoly money is the very best you're going to manage.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

> Know one is going to lend him anything. It's just another BS excuse
> for posting here.
>
> Jill
>


"Know one"? Drinking and posting?

[Bryan-TGWWW]

Laugh all you want, you fucking mangy dog. Within the last few days I
posted that if I had all the money that I've "lost" on my artistic pursuits,
that *I* could probably retire. I've never had pretensions of making money
off art, and if that piece of human refuse would ignore me, I'd be more than
happy to do the same, but he won't, because he's got a sick obsession with me.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[John Kuthe]

Bryan, I am not obsesed with you. I see your posts on here and you
consistently express signs/symptoms of the mental health condition I
am pretty sure you have, severely and pathooigically. Not
pathologically enough for me to recommend any interventions agaisnt
your will of course, but I AM nurse, and you are my old dear friend
who I see getting worse and worse, and I feel compelled to TRY and get
you to seek therapy. To save yourself as well as your wife and child.

That;s all. That is a LOT, I know! To you. It must feel like
"admitting you're wrong" which must tyerrify yoiu as a probable
sufferer of Narcississtic Personalitty Disorder. If you did not suffer
from it, my referring to it as the mental health problem you may have
would not bother you at all. Like if I accused you of being stupid,
which we nbotrh know you are not. Because peoill,e do not feel a lot
either way when louded for or "accused" of that whic they know and are
comfortable/secure with of something about themseelves. Like if
someone complimentedd be for being smart, I KNOW I'm smart and I am
condident and comfortable with that self-knowlege. So I thank them of
course but it does not feel like big compliment. As well, if someone
"accuses" me of being Bipolar, that too I know about myself and am
comfirtable with. I always say hey, I;'m on Seroquel and it's working
well for me. But when I say I think you PROBABLY have the medically
diagnosable condition of Narcississtic Personality Disorder, you
become all uncomfirtable and unhinged and start throwing defensive
crap at me, in an effort to save yourself, your ego, becaose that
itsefr is a symptom if the disporder I sufggersted! And you know it!
So it bothers you because you are in denial about it.

Please drop the denail and see an MD, a psychiatrist. The only
qualified person to make the official diagnosis and also someone who
can also begin to help you.

[dsi1]

Sounds like a good idea to me.

[dsi1]

Lobotomy: not a good idea.

[Nunya Bidnits]

"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:cqaedu...@mid.individual.net...

>Do I have the right channel? This *is* the Kuthe and Bryan
>show, isn't it? LOLOL

It's the Terrance and Philip show.

lol

[Bryan-TGWWW]

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 12:20:15 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
> I thank you very much for the idea. I cannot fail. I must not.
> Otherwise it' back to suicide by hypothermia as my future plans.
>
>

Lord knows that I don't agree with a lot of what Mr. Kuthe posts, but
"suicide by hypothermia," I *like* it!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
--Bryan

[Moe DeLoughan]

On 4/28/2015 12:20 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I thank you very much for the idea. I cannot fail. I must not.
> Otherwise it' back to suicide by hypothermia as my future plans.
>

John: seriously. Contact your county and the local United Way to get
information on immediate assistance. They will help you figure out
what resources are available to help you out. They may be able to find
housing options for you, at least getting you on the waiting lists for
local Secition 8 and other subsidized housing. At your age, you may
even qualify for subsidized senior housing, which is usually less
difficult to get into because the wait lists are shorter.

Also: apply for Social Security Disability. If you have a health
condition that renders you essentially unemployable, you will qualify
for it. You may have to slog through the appeals process first, but
there are companies that help applicants with that (they get paid from
the state/county welfare departments, because every person who gets on
SSDI gets off the local welfare rolls). The companies have a very high
success rate with the appeals process.

Between SSDI and Medicaid (which you will also qualify for), you'll
have some money each month and your medical taken care of. If you get
help finding affordable housing, you'll probably be okay.

[Gary]

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > I thank you very much for the idea. I cannot fail. I must not.
> > Otherwise it' back to suicide by hypothermia as my future plans.
> >
> >
> Lord knows that I don't agree with a lot of what Mr. Kuthe posts, but
> "suicide by hypothermia," I *like* it!

It actually sounds like an easy and sure way to end life if necessary.
Get cold, get really cold...then *they* say that the final urge is
just to lie down and go to sleep. Sounds like a somewhat peaceful
suicide to me.

[Grim Reaper]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:20:13 -0500, John Kuthe wrote:

> I thank you very much for the idea. I cannot fail. I must not.
> Otherwise it' back to suicide by hypothermia as my future plans.
>

> I'ver got tons goinmg on that I am NOT talking about. Never assume any
> post I make here is the entirety of my situation. No one here will
> ever know that!! :-)
>
> Namaste.
>
> John Kuthe...

Don't discount death by tuna retort.

[Janet]

In article <nlvvjahmi3plromf4...@4ax.com>, z...@zcv.org.au
says...

> >I'm doing my part,
> >asking for trust and the use of $250,000. I AM trustworthy, ask anyone
> >I've ever owed money! Even ask Bryan, who hates my guts!! I'll bet
> >even HE would vouch for my trustworthiness!
>
> I'm not sure if you're pulling our legs here or what at this point...
>

John knows he has bipolar disorder, my guess is he's entered a manic
phase but is unaware of that.

Maybe he's stopped taking his medication, at any rate he needs to see
his doctor and get help.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/bipolar-disorder/pages/symptoms.aspx

Janet UK

[John Kuthe]

Yep!! And best of all, it'll be painless once you get over the initial
shivering stage. Hypothermia deadens nerve transmission, which most
pain is! And peoplle going hypothermic say when boating in cold
weather are said to exhibit The Umbles: they stumble, fumble and
mumble. All signs of decreased nerve function.

This is a VERY well thought out exit strategy if I ever decide on it.
I have MS and I am NOT ending up in a fucking nursing home. I have
worked in a nursing home, and as anyone who has worked in one says...

I am not afraid of death, it's the transition that concerns me!! ;-)

[John Kuthe]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:34:01 -0500, Moe DeLoughan <m...@notmine.null>
wrote:

I'm drying out from marijuana, and when I can test clean I'm going to
try and get another nursing job. There are other Home Health Care
agences klike the one I worked for, and my nursing supervisor at the
job I just left liked me a lot and told me she'd be a good reference
for me! So I have good hopes of getting another nursingt job! SOON!
But not too soon, I'm enjoying a temporary hiatus too much right now!!