Huh? All the local ice cream joints and dairy bars around here (CT) will
gladly fix one up with a malted. Yes, it's called a 'malted' round here. I
just had a chomplit malted the other day and it was pure bliss. I had to
light up a smoke afterward it was so good.
Jack Dumbrowski
Competition from the microbrews priced them out of the market.
. . . seriously: I remember how I used to loathe malt as a dairy or cereal
flavoring. In a milkshake, it seriously undercuts the impact of chocolate--as
does just about anything except vanilla.
Neil
> I get teary-eyed thinking of the old drugstore soda fountains and the
> chronic question whether to have a milkshake or a malt. No more is
> there an option. Whatever happened to Malts? I loved them!
The demise of both drugstore and dime store soda fountains and lunch
counters seriously cut into the availability of good malts.
Ice cream shops, many delis, and other restaurants often have them on
their menu. They're good, but they just don't seem quite the same. :-)
Several weeks ago I got a vanilla malt at a Baskin-Robbins. Not exactly
a take-away bargain at $4.50 a pop, uh, malt!
You can get a great malt at Serendipity III on E. 60th in Manhattan, and
it's worth whatever their going rate is. Also, at Rumplemayer's on
Central Park South, which is probably my favorite. Both places will put
you in a nostalgic mood.
I make them at home with the Hamilton Beach malt mixer I bought on eBay.
--
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*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
--Lia
>
> I'm not sure I've ever had a malt. They come in different flavors?
> Chocolate, vanilla and what others?
>
> --Lia
You could have malt added to any flavor of milkshake, making it a "malted".
However, IMHO, the only two flavors that fit well are vanilla and
chocolate. Malt has a rather pronounced flavor, and I can't quite picture
it with much of anything else.
As another poster said, it almost overpowers. I think he didn't even like
it with chocolate, although I do. However, I like it most with vanilla,
where it's flavor truly predominates.
They still exist. The best ones you make at home in your blender- use
Carnation brand malt powder and hard ice cream. Some restaurants still
have them - ask. Sometimes they're not on the menu but they'll make
you one if they have the malt stuff. Used to be a chain called (not
kidding) "Fuddruckers" which had great malts - but pricey.
Lynn in FArgo
Is that the same Fuddrucker's as in hamburgers?
> You could have malt added to any flavor of milkshake, making it a "malted".
> However, IMHO, the only two flavors that fit well are vanilla and
> chocolate. Malt has a rather pronounced flavor, and I can't quite picture
> it with much of anything else.
>
> As another poster said, it almost overpowers. I think he didn't even like
> it with chocolate, although I do. However, I like it most with vanilla,
> where it's flavor truly predominates.
In our family's soda shop in the early 50's (The Towne Spa in South
River, NJ), we also used malt powder on a "Dusty Road" sundae. Any
flavor ice cream (or two since there were two scoops), chocolate
syrup, a generous spoonful of malt powder, whipped cream and a
maraschino cherry.
Made some for The Amazing Kid's last sleepover for her and her
friends. One complimented me on my "great new idea."
Pastorio
Oh, that sounds good, Bob! I've got Horlick's malt powder. Gotta give
that a try when I pick up ice cream this weekend.
It's a funny thing. The malt powder is granular and dry and it's a
small shock to encounter that sort of dryness in an ice cream dish. It
soon becomes a dance to select the ice cream, syrup and malt in good
quantity to keep it all in good balance as you eat it. And don't
forget the whipped cream. I didn't tell the kids, but I used a dash of
white creme de cocoa in it. <LOL> They licked the bowl clean and
giggled a lot. Hard to tell if it was any more than usual, though.
I make shakes nowadays with my immersion blender and I gotta say
they're not any different than what we made then. A good-sized scoop
(or maybe 1 1/2) of ice cream, about a cup of milk, a couple
tablespoons appropriate syrup, and two tablespoons malted milk powder.
It's thick enough to be hard to get through a straw, and so cold it
makes your eyes hurt like a good milkshake/malted/frosted should. Some
people would call shakes "frappes" or, puzzlingly, "cabinets." No one
has explained the source of that last with any credibility. Obviously
those people were from out of town.
Frosted? 2 (or more) good-sized scoops ice cream. Should be too thick
to draw up a straw. You decide the size of the scoops. Spoon stuff.
Brown cow shake? Coffee ice cream, chocolate syrup.
Beer barrel? Vanilla ice cream, root beer syrup.
Grasshopper shake? Mint chocolate chip ice cream, green mint syrup.
Brown cow frosted malt? You know...
Pastorio
Wayne wrote:
> CoastWatcher <jimd...@willapabay.org> wrote in
> news:10l6gp2...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>>I get teary-eyed thinking of the old drugstore soda fountains and the
>>chronic question whether to have a milkshake or a malt. No more is
>>there an option. Whatever happened to Malts? I loved them!
>
>
> The demise of both drugstore and dime store soda fountains and lunch
> counters seriously cut into the availability of good malts.
>
> Ice cream shops, many delis, and other restaurants often have them on
> their menu. They're good, but they just don't seem quite the same. :-)
> Several weeks ago I got a vanilla malt at a Baskin-Robbins. Not exactly
> a take-away bargain at $4.50 a pop, uh, malt!
>
> You can get a great malt at Serendipity III on E. 60th in Manhattan, and
> it's worth whatever their going rate is. Also, at Rumplemayer's on
> Central Park South, which is probably my favorite. Both places will put
> you in a nostalgic mood.
>
> I make them at home with the Hamilton Beach malt mixer I bought on eBay.
>
Wayne, Rumpelmayer's at the St. Moritz is long gone. :o(
Serendipity is still going strong. I have not seen a malted milk
machine in many years, but then, I never liked malted milks.
> lynn...@i29.net (Lynn Gifford) wrote in
> news:c1ec0a8e.04092...@posting.google.com:
> > Used to be a chain called (not kidding) "Fuddruckers" which had
> > great malts - but pricey. Lynn in FArgo
> Is that the same Fuddrucker's as in hamburgers?
Yup.
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That's sure to be an interesting combination. Hmmm...like the idea of
the creme de cocoa in the whipped cream!
> I make shakes nowadays with my immersion blender and I gotta say
> they're not any different than what we made then. A good-sized scoop
> (or maybe 1 1/2) of ice cream, about a cup of milk, a couple
> tablespoons appropriate syrup, and two tablespoons malted milk powder.
> It's thick enough to be hard to get through a straw, and so cold it
> makes your eyes hurt like a good milkshake/malted/frosted should. Some
> people would call shakes "frappes" or, puzzlingly, "cabinets." No one
> has explained the source of that last with any credibility. Obviously
> those people were from out of town.
I have to confess that I don't own an immersion blender. I have a KA
stand mixer, Cuisinart FP, Osterizer blender, and a 1940s Hamilton Beach
malt mixer, with which I've been very pleased.
> Frosted? 2 (or more) good-sized scoops ice cream. Should be too thick
> to draw up a straw. You decide the size of the scoops. Spoon stuff.
>
> Brown cow shake? Coffee ice cream, chocolate syrup.
>
> Beer barrel? Vanilla ice cream, root beer syrup.
>
> Grasshopper shake? Mint chocolate chip ice cream, green mint syrup.
>
> Brown cow frosted malt? You know...
All good ideas!
>
> Pastorio
>
>
> Wayne wrote:
>> CoastWatcher <jimd...@willapabay.org> wrote in
>> news:10l6gp2...@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>
>>>I get teary-eyed thinking of the old drugstore soda fountains and the
>>>chronic question whether to have a milkshake or a malt. No more is
>>>there an option. Whatever happened to Malts? I loved them!
>>
>>
>> The demise of both drugstore and dime store soda fountains and lunch
>> counters seriously cut into the availability of good malts.
>>
>> Ice cream shops, many delis, and other restaurants often have them on
>> their menu. They're good, but they just don't seem quite the same.
>> :-) Several weeks ago I got a vanilla malt at a Baskin-Robbins. Not
>> exactly a take-away bargain at $4.50 a pop, uh, malt!
>>
>> You can get a great malt at Serendipity III on E. 60th in Manhattan,
>> and it's worth whatever their going rate is. Also, at Rumplemayer's
>> on Central Park South, which is probably my favorite. Both places
>> will put you in a nostalgic mood.
>>
>> I make them at home with the Hamilton Beach malt mixer I bought on
>> eBay.
>>
> Wayne, Rumpelmayer's at the St. Moritz is long gone. :o(
Thanks for the info, Margaret. I am sooo sorry to hear that! I would
always stop there in the summer for ice cream or a malt. If I happened
to be in Manhattan for Macy's parade, I would usually go to Rumpelmayer's
for a breakfast of French toast and bacon, with a double hot chocolate to
go!
> Serendipity is still going strong. I have not seen a malted milk
> machine in many years, but then, I never liked malted milks.
For many years, Serendipity has always been a favorite lunch place for me
when wandering around Manhattan. Their "frozen hot chocolate" is
delicious!
> In article <Xns956DD029...@204.127.36.1>, Wayne
> <wayne...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> lynn...@i29.net (Lynn Gifford) wrote in
>> news:c1ec0a8e.04092...@posting.google.com:
>> > Used to be a chain called (not kidding) "Fuddruckers" which had
>> > great malts - but pricey. Lynn in FArgo
>
>> Is that the same Fuddrucker's as in hamburgers?
>
> Yup.
There are quite a few in and around the Phoenix area. In fact, several of
my co-workers went to one for lunch yesterday.
Mocha
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I've had an extra thick blueberry malt before, with ground up real
blueberries. It needed a tad bit more malt flavor, IIRC, but it was yummy.
kili
I love them, too. I hadn't had one in a long time and then, while at a
conference in Reno, I discovered that the Johnny Rocket's chain has malts.
I'm not sure how widespread they are. We've got them here in Seattle.
-Matt
Coffee, mocha, strawberry.
Am I the only one who remembers, in the 50's,
when malts/shakes/frappes/sundaes were $.25?
And decent-sized cones were $.10.
Sigh. (Of course minimum wage was $1.25 IIRC.)
gloria p
That $0.25 in 1955 is about $1.75 today. Hmm, most shakes are more
than that these days, so apparently milkshake prices are outpacing
inflation.
Here's a nice web calculator that corrects for inflation:
http://www.hughchou.org/calc/cpi.cgi
I use stuff like this to remind people that in reality they probably
paid more for gas in the early 80s than now.
> Sigh. (Of course minimum wage was $1.25 IIRC.)
Actually, it was $1.00 in the late 50s, unless your state mandated a
higher wage.
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If your e-mail addy is an accurate indication, you're in
Oregon -- drive up to Shelton, WA and hit Nita's Coffeeshop
on Railroad Avenue. They're only open on weekdays (breakfast
and lunch) but they make old fashioned hamburgers, shakes,
and yes, malts...
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Hmm, 1965... you're still a spring chicken... I remember 75ข minimum wage
(1950)... and most fountain ice cream concoctions were 10ข... hand dipped sugar
cones were a nickle. It's funny how all ice cream back than was "premium", and
now folks act like it was just invented last month. In 1950 there was no
pre-packaged ice cream, it was all hand dipped... usta get a gill of Dolly
Madison packed to the flaps for 10ข.
gill = 4 fluid ounces (7.219 cubic inches) 118.294 milliliters
http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/chart.htm
Minumum wage wasn't $1.25 until 1963, then went down to $1.15 in 1964, and back
up to $1.25 in 1965. In 1950 the minimum wage reached 75¢, then went to $1 in
1956.
Hah! We used to get a "Chop Suey Sundae" - 5 scoops
of ice cream, 5 toppings, whipped cream, nuts, and
a cherry - for $.50.
Kate
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Nope. Not only could you get a large malt glass filled with the shake/malt,
they'd usually leave you the stainless container in which it was made, and which
usually contained a third again as much.
> And decent-sized cones were $.10.
You could also get a cherry, lemon or chocolate coke for $0.10.
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> Am I the only one who remembers, in the 50's,
> when malts/shakes/frappes/sundaes were $.25?
> And decent-sized cones were $.10.
>
> Sigh. (Of course minimum wage was $1.25 IIRC.)
Yeah, I just got sticker shock looking through the supermarket
circular. Ritz Crackers, Nill Wafers, 3 BUCKS?
That's life.
nancy
And $10k a year was a nice salary!
--
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Remove the crap from my email address before using.
$3? Try $4.50! NO more cheese and crackers!
kili
In 1950 $10,000/per yr was typical MD's salary, and they made house calls at $4
a pop... and ran a tab... no one had medical insurance then. In 1950 minimum
wage was 75¢/hr, the typical skilled worker considered $2.50/hr excellent
wages... a brand new fully loaded Chevy cost $600 (fully loaded meant car mats
and an AM radio)... no car loans, certainly no leasing. Typically only MDs,
funeral parlors, pimps, and mafiosa drove Caddies... hey, things don't really
change. In 1950 there were no credit cards, no one was in debt, not any more
than their tab at the corner grocery; for a 10¢ bread, 30¢ for a pound of
bologna, 14¢ for a quart of milk, and 25¢ for two packs of Luckies. And
Dugan's still delivered... no one ever made better cup cakes and chocolate chip
cookies, not to this very day.
I actually discovered the malt when I moved to Iowa to attend college.
Generally, most Dari-Barn-esque establishments will have them (of
varying quality, but all with that malty goodness). Now that I am
living in Chicago, I am at a loss as to where to find a good
one...However, if you ever find yourself in Iowa City, give Whitey's a
try. They have a fabulous selection of flavors!
In the 1950's HALF of $10K would buy you a very nice house.
When my husband graduated from college in engineering in 1966,
the going wage for new engineers in aerospace was ~$8000.
gloria p
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure I've ever had a malt. They come in different flavors?
>> Chocolate, vanilla and what others?
>>
>> --Lia
>
>
>
> Coffee, mocha, strawberry.
>
> Am I the only one who remembers, in the 50's,
> when malts/shakes/frappes/sundaes were $.25?
> And decent-sized cones were $.10.
Yep, and phosphates were 15в. Most places, ice cream was 5в a dip.
Minimum wage? I dunno. I was 7 yo in 1952.
At Pizza Bob's I liked the banana/strawberry and banana/chocolate, always malts
and never shakes. Plain vanilla just never did it for me.
>>
>> As another poster said, it almost overpowers. I think he didn't even like
>> it with chocolate, although I do. However, I like it most with vanilla,
>> where it's flavor truly predominates.
>
>In our family's soda shop in the early 50's (The Towne Spa in South
>River, NJ), we also used malt powder on a "Dusty Road" sundae. Any
>flavor ice cream (or two since there were two scoops), chocolate
>syrup, a generous spoonful of malt powder, whipped cream and a
>maraschino cherry.
That is so weird. I had dusty roads but nobody I ever met had ever heard of
them. These were served at the soda fountain at Truan's Chocolates in the late
60's, early 70's in Dearborn Hts. MI. Truan's is still there, still with the
fountain. Did some of your family move there with the recipe? I went to their
site, which hardly has any information now, and saw that they were founded in
1929.
We have a bunch of those, too! Never tried it. I assume, if you like it,
that it's good. I hope it's *nothing* at all like KFC. I think that stuff
is disgusting.
> We have a bunch of those, too! Never tried it. I assume, if you like it,
> that it's good. I hope it's *nothing* at all like KFC. I think that stuff
> is disgusting.
Damn, I used to adore the original KFC chicken.
nancy
I can't remember liking KFC since the late 1950s. I really liked it then.
IMHO, the decine of the quality and taste of KFC began when they left the
true restaurant setting and became fast food "outlets".
Minimum wage in 1950 was $.75.
---------------------------
1950 Prices US President
Bread: $0.14/loaf Harry S. Truman
Milk: $0.82/gal US Vice President
Eggs: $0.70/doz Alben W. Barkley
Car: $1,750 Academy Award Winners
Gas: $0.27/gal Best Picture: All About Eve
Directed By Joseph L Mankiewicz
Best Actor: Jose Ferrer
in Cyrano De Bergerac
Best Actress: Judy Holliday
in Born Yesterday
House: $14,500
Stamp: $0.03/ea
Avg Income: $3,815/yr
Min Wage: $0.75/hr
DOW Avg: 235
Same here, too bad they don't make it that way anymore...
J.J. in WA wrote:
> One time on Usenet, qwe...@monmouth.com said:
>
>>Wayne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>We have a bunch of those, too! Never tried it. I assume, if you like it,
>>>that it's good. I hope it's *nothing* at all like KFC. I think that stuff
>>>is disgusting.
>>
>>Damn, I used to adore the original KFC chicken.
>
>
> Same here, too bad they don't make it that way anymore...
>
>
You are most likely speaking of Col. Sander's Chicken. When the old
man sold the business and name, he handed down his recipe, too.
However, the new owners cut corners and the chicken no longer tasted
as it had before. The Colonel barred the new owners legally from
using his name and the name changed to Kentucky Fried Chicken.
To the best of what I remember, that's the story. The original
Colonel Sanders chicken was wonderful, the KFC is really bad.
> PS: we do, however, have nearly every other damn franchise place here
> except the one I really like . . . Popeye's Fried Chicken.
Mmmmmm, Popeye's. That's one of only two fast food places I'll
voluntarily go to (the other being White Castle).
Brian
> I make my own, when I allow myself to have one. Ovaltine is a malted
> beverage powder. Just make a malted milk with your blender using about 3
> Tbsp of ovaltine added to it.
Interesting. In New Zealand Ovaltine is a chocolate drink. Not so
where you are?
Miche
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> Interesting. In New Zealand Ovaltine is a chocolate drink. Not so
> where you are?
http://slate.msn.com/id/2074516/
nb
Here in Sandy Eggo, it is available both ways. I like the chocolate, but
only at bedtime in the winter!
Charlie
Ovaltine makes a few different flavors, including malt.
I haven't looked for Ovaltine in a very long time,
but in the U.S. when I was a kid there were two
varieties--plain and chocolate. I have no idea what's
available now.
gloria p
Last I bought some, 'bout 5 years ago, there was vanilla too. But Horlick's
makes even more flavors and their malt powder is much better for making malteds
than Ovaltine.
Charlie! EWWW! YUCK!!
How _COULD_ you admit to liking that toxic, vile powder?
I expect better of Guinness drinkers!
The Ranger
I was weaned to early? Besides, Guinness is both malty and chocolaty.
Charlie
> Miche wrote:
> >
> > In article <1096160281.bDtBmyU41NyQ1wRmrujXHg@teranews>,
> > "Helen Peagram" <hpea...@nexusisp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I make my own, when I allow myself to have one. Ovaltine is a malted
> > > beverage powder. Just make a malted milk with your blender using about 3
> > > Tbsp of ovaltine added to it.
> >
> > Interesting. In New Zealand Ovaltine is a chocolate drink. Not so
> > where you are?
>
> I haven't looked for Ovaltine in a very long time,
> but in the U.S. when I was a kid there were two
> varieties--plain and chocolate. I have no idea what's
> available now.
I've never seen "plain" (vanilla?) Ovaltine. I've seen vanilla and
chocolate Horlicks, which sounds similar.
(I love vanilla Horlicks, but it's made with wheat products, so is off
my radar. Sigh.)
Miche
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WWMVD?
I just was at Kroger's. Ovatine comes in three flavors: chocolate, malt, and
chocolate malt.
Jim