Electric hand mixer that won't burn out?
Jonathan Kamens
At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
(like, e.g.,
http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers&T1=KTA+KHM3WH)
every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
(Yes, we could get it fixed, but I'm pretty certain that
getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
(Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
kitchen.)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
--
Jews for Obama (http://www.jews4obama.com/)
Mark Thorson
>
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as
> we want to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
for the purpose. Cookie dough is way too thick
for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
It's like using a knife as a screwdriver and
complaining when the tip breaks off.
Sheldon
wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> every 2-3 years. �We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
Even the best hand mixers won't stand up long to mixing heavy doughs
like for cookies. I have a 7 speed KitchenAid that's great for
whipping and mixing batters but I don't think it would last long on a
steady diet of mixing stiff cookie doughs.
Daniel Ganek
I wouldn't use a hand mixer for cookie dough but KitchenAid does
make a dough hook for the model you picked (the cheapest by the way).
Were you using the dough hook? Using beaters for dough is guaranteed
to burn out the motor. I'd also go with the strongest mixer I could get;
i.e. the 9-speed KA.
/da
T
j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us says...
> (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> kitchen.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
I've got an older (90's) Sunbeam Mixmaster stand/detachable unit that
just goes and goes. I paid $50 for it though now I see they want $169 or
so for the same thing.
However their hand mixers are based on the classic:
Jonathan Kamens
>You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
>for the purpose. Cookie dough is way too thick
>for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. Granted,
perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
Dave Smith
That is the same hand held mixer that I have been using for years and mine is
still going strong. I use it for chocolate chip cooks, meat loaf and other tough
jobs and it works fine.
Brian Christiansen
"Jonathan Kamens" <j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote in message
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> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
Well, I use either a pastry cutter
(http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Pastry_Cutter) or a potato masher,
which I think works better than a pastry cutter, to cream the butter and
eggs together, then a wooden spoon to stir in the chocolate chips and the
optional nuts. Neither of those things burn out.
I have mixed the cookies using an electric device like a mixer or food
processor from time to time, but it is neither faster nor "easier" than
using the hand tools, at least in my opinion. It is just more clean up.
You can even mix the chips in with your hands as the following recipe
recommends: http://theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/index.php?RecipeID=111. I
have never done it that way, but I would highly recommend washing your hands
before doing the mixing, even though you washed your hands, or at least
should have, before you started cooking.
I don't know if you use the mixer for something else, but the bottom line is
that cooking had been done with hand tools for a lot more of human history
than power tools, and quite often, they are actually the better choice
(though one time I tried making mayonnaise with a whisk, and that is just
for the birds).
Brian Christiansen
Nancy2
wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
> (Yes, we could get it fixed, but I'm pretty certain that
> getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
>
> (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> kitchen.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
>
> --
> Jews for Obama (http://www.jews4obama.com/)
Dunno. I have a KA hand mixer, the 6 speed, and I've used it at least
once or twice a week for about a decade now. I'm thinking about
getting a 7-speed, with a whip attachment, actually.
N.
Nancy2
wrote:
I can't think of anything easier than creaming shortening and sugar
with an electric stand mixer. Clean-up? Pshaw, a quick hot-water
wash (under the running water) with a little soap smeared on, and the
beaters are good to go. Plus, I can finish the recipe in the stand
mixer, using only that one bowl and a spatula. I'd never try creaming
shortening and sugar by hand - it just doesn't work as well. IMO, of
course.
As for the OP, I can't imagine mixing cookie dough with a hand mixer.
I use mine sometimes for brownie batter (homemade- it's thinner than a
box mix, actually), frosting, and beating eggs for whatever. That's
about all I use it for.
N.
Janet Wilder
The ad for your mixer says it's "powerful enough to mix double batches
of cookie dough" If that's their claim, they should stand by it. Have
you contacted them?
Personally, I mix heavy cookie dough by hand. It helps to establish the
calorie deficit so I can eat more cookies without getting fat :-)
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
zxcvbob
Was it really a Kitchenaid, or was it maybe a Sunbeam that kind of looks
like the one you linked?
Bob
Robert Klute
Probably time to switch to a stand mixer. You can get a refurbished
tilt head for $169.00. That's not much more than the cost of 2 of the 7
speed hand mixers or 3 of the 3 speeds. For $200 you can get the heavy
duty 5-qt Professional model (475 Watts, all metal construction).
http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_list.asp?SKW=KTAFACTSTAND&HDR=outlet
FWIW, the 3 speed has a 170 Watt motor.
Julia Altshuler
>
> I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
> too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. Granted,
> perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
> what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
> hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
I mix cookies by hand with a metal spoon and have never had a problem.
The only reasons I'd be tempted to use a standup mixer or other
electronic help would be:
if I were making an especially large batch as though making them
commercially
if I had arthritis or other medical condition which made using my arm in
that way difficult.
I thought there would be a whole list, but I can only come up with the 2
possibilities. If you don't have either of these, I'd suggest just
mixing by hand from the start. You can let the fact that the hand
mixers die prematurely, or you can say that clean-up is easier.
Good reasons for using the hand held mixer: egg white and cream. And
even then, a hand whip works fine.
--Lia
Melba's Jammin'
j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) wrote:
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
I'm very happy with my Braun Multi-Mix unit. Includes a stick blender,
chopper, and a tall container for doing some stick blending. Don't know
if they still sell it, but it does what I need it to do when I don't
want to haul out the KA stand mixer.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller , blahblahblog is back and
is being updated quite regularly now.
"rec.food.cooking Preserved Fruit Administrator
'Always in a jam. Never in a stew.'" - Evergene
Wayne Boatwright
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> (like, e.g.,
> http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers&T1=KTA+KH
> M3WH) every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
> (Yes, we could get it fixed, but I'm pretty certain that
> getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
>
> (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> kitchen.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
>
I don't know of a current model hand mixer that I would recommend, as I
haven't needed a new one.
My dad bought my mother a "Dormey" hand mixer made by Dormeyer in 1954.
She used it until she passed away in 1998, and I have been using it since
then. I also happen to have a KitchenAid stand mixer, but I still use the
hand mixer for many things.
The are frequently sold on eBay. Currently there are two for sale. If you
don't mind buying something used, buy one of these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dormeyer-Dormey-Portable-Electric-Mixer-Model-7500
_W0QQitemZ160267075932QQihZ006QQcategoryZ11653QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ
ViewItem
or
As a side note, I have since bought two of these mixers on eBay "just in
case" mine dies. I doubt that it will, though, so here I sit with three of
them. :-) Oh, the two on eBay are *not* being sold by me.
--
Wayne Boatwright
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Where am I going, and why am I in this
handbasket?
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Wayne Boatwright
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> (like, e.g.,
> http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers&T1=KTA+KH
> M3WH) every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
> (Yes, we could get it fixed, but I'm pretty certain that
> getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
>
> (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> kitchen.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
>
I would not be happy with anything currently on the market. However, some
of the older hand mixers have survived decades of use.
My dad bought my mother a "Dormey" hand mixer made by Dormeyer in 1954.
She used it until 1998 when she passed away. I now have it and use it
regularly, although I also have a KitchenAid stand mixer that I use for
heavier mixtures.
You can usually find one on eBay, in fact, they are several currently
listed now. Here is one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dormeyer-Dormey-Portable-Electric-Mixer-Model-7500
_W0QQitemZ160267075932QQihZ006QQcategoryZ11653QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ
ViewItem
OR
If you don't mind buying something used, I can't recommend this highly
enough.
Mark Thorson
>
>I'm very happy with my Braun Multi-Mix unit. Includes a stick blender,
> chopper, and a tall container for doing some stick blending. Don't know
> if they still sell it, but it does what I need it to do when I don't
> want to haul out the KA stand mixer.
I have the Braun, too. I wouldn't even consider
using it on cookie dough.
Dimitri
"Jonathan Kamens" <j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote in message
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>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> (like, e.g.,
> http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers&T1=KTA+KHM3WH)
> every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=142281
You need a mixer with dough hooks for making cookies,
Or get a kitchen aid.
--
Old Scoundrel
(AKA Dimitri)
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
>
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> (like, e.g.,
> http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers&T1=KTA+KHM3WH)
> every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
Symptoms precisely describe crap made in China, especially if they occur
immediately after the return limit date.
Jonathan Kamens
>Was it really a Kitchenaid, or was it maybe a Sunbeam that kind of looks
>like the one you linked?
I don't think the one we had was a KitchenAid. I don't remember what
the brand was.
If the answer to my question is, "Some of the brands are garbage. You
should get a <x>," then I'd love to hear that :-).
sandi
news:g77kpf$2bm$1...@jik3.kamens.brookline.ma.us:
> Greetings,
>
> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> (like, e.g.,
> http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers
> &T1=KTA+KHM3WH) every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
> (Yes, we could get it fixed, but I'm pretty certain that
> getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
>
> (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> kitchen.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
I have a late Sunbeam mixer. It's still going..
after many cookies. :-) Circa late '60's or Very early '70's.
Harvest gold.
Kathleen
I really don't have room for a stand-up mixer in my kitchen. But, in
point of fact, I don't have room for my hand mixture, either. It's kept
downstairs, pretty much right where I'd keep a stand-up mixer. So, when
this latest one finally dies I'll replace it with a stand-up unit.
Meanwhile, I prolong the life of my current handheld mixer by making
sure that the butter and eggs are at room temp before attempting to beat
them.
Goomba
> Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
I'm an old fashioned girl. I just make cookies with a bowl and large
mixing spoon with a little elbow grease behind it. I never seemed to
need a mixer? Is this something you might be able to try doing?
Giusi
is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> it),
I have the Braun Multi Mix which includes mixer, stick blender, dough hooks
and mini chopper. I have had it 8 years and use it professionally as well
as domestically. For very heavy doughs use the dough hooks. Otherwise it
does what it does and does it very well indeed. Mine is 350 watts but I
think the newer ones are higher wattage.
I had to replace the blade and staff of the chopper once, but the rest keeps
on trucking. I have rarely been this pleased with an appliance and I use it
every day for something.
Sheldon
> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> > Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> writes:
>
> >>You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
> >>for the purpose. �Cookie dough is way too thick
> >>for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
>
> > I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
> > too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. �Granted,
> > perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
> > what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
> > hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>
> I really don't have room for a stand-up mixer in my kitchen. �But, in
> point of fact, I don't have room for my hand mixture, either. �It's kept
> downstairs, pretty much right where I'd keep a stand-up mixer. �So, when
> this latest one finally dies I'll replace it with a stand-up unit.
Then you really need both... for the vast majority of mixing a hand
mixer surffices just fine, and is far easier to clean and store. I
don't even have a stand mixer anymore... for the teensy quantity of
dough a 5-6 quart KA can handle I'd rather by hand. The *only*
reasonS anyone needs a KA sized stand mixer at home is if they are
handicapped or a kitchen snob.
Michael Black
Huh?
It's easy to hand mix at the beginning, it's later that it
becomes too much trouble.
If you can mix by hand when you add the flour, then you might
as well do the whole thing by hand.
Michael
Nancy Young
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
>> Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> writes:
>>> You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
>>> for the purpose. Cookie dough is way too thick
>>> for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
>>
>> I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
>> too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. Granted,
>> perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
>> what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
>> hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>>
> Huh?
>
> It's easy to hand mix at the beginning, it's later that it
> becomes too much trouble.
Don't chocolate chip cookies start with creaming the butter
and sugar until fluffy? I find that much easier with a mixer.
nancy
hahabogus
@jik3.kamens.brookline.ma.us:
Move on up to power tools...use an electric drill. Put the mixer
attachments in the chuck of an electric drill. The motors are larger, so
they will last longer.
--
The house of the burning beet-Alan
T
says...
Sounds like you've been watching too much Good Eats. A tool should
always have more than one use and you've definitely done that here.
For the more engineering inclined you could actually design a fixed
platform to attach the drill and then a gearbox to spin two or more
beaters.
The nice thing about the drill is the variable speed and torque.
Sheldon
The drill motor will last but it will probably wreck the typical hand
mixer beater... and unless one has a sturdy device for securing the
bowl this idea can even prove dangerous... I don't recommend this
cockamamie method, certainly not for anyone not physically able to mix
cookie dough entirely by hand.
Most cookie recipes begin:
"In a large bowl, cream together butter and sugar until smooth. Beat
in eggs and vanilla."
This can easily be accomplished with any hand mixer.
Then the dry ingredints:
"Stir in the flour, baking powder, and salt."
Needs two minutes with a sturdy wooden spoon is all.
My KA hand mixer came with a dollars-off coupon for heavy duty beaters
(looks like just larger diameter wire) but I never ordered them, the
regular beaters do fine for all my whipping and beating needs.
Actually for cookie dough it's better to make up each single batch
recipe separately.
blake murphy
at least you're not claiming hand mixing produces a better texture.
your pal,
blake
Lynn from Fargo
Jesus wants you to get a Sunbeam . . .
or maybe a Hamilton Beach. I've been happy with both.
Lynn in Fargo
Goomba
>> I'm an old fashioned girl. I just make cookies with a bowl and large
>> mixing spoon with a little elbow grease behind it. I never seemed to
>> need a mixer? Is this something you might be able to try doing?
>
> at least you're not claiming hand mixing produces a better texture.
>
> your pal,
> blake
Well, I do like my cookies better than most everyone elses! LOL
Perhaps it is the inclusion of classic elbow grease that makes them so good?
Mark Thorson
>
> The drill motor will last but it will probably wreck the typical hand
> mixer beater... and unless one has a sturdy device for securing the
> bowl this idea can even prove dangerous... I don't recommend this
> cockamamie method, certainly not for anyone not physically able to mix
> cookie dough entirely by hand.
Hardware stores sell attachments for drills
for mixing. Combine this with a stand to turn
the drill into a drill press, and you'll have
a mighty tool that will stand up to any
cookie dough.
Nancy2
> "Jonathan Kamens" <j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote in message
>
> news:g77kpf$2bm$1...@jik3.kamens.brookline.ma.us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> > (like, e.g.,
> > every 2-3 years. We don't use the mixer that
> > often, maybe two or three times per month, and yet there
> > always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> > smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> > smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
>
> > Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> > once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> > post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> > up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> > it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> > ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> > to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
>
> http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=142281
>
> You need a mixer with dough hooks for making cookies,
> Or get a kitchen aid.
>
> --
> Old Scoundrel
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, poppycock and balderdash. You don't need dough hooks to make
cookie dough. Where did that idea come from? You use the KA paddle
beater for cookie dough. Dough hooks are for kneading bread dough.
N.
TammyM
"Goomba" <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Before I had my KA stand mixer, I used to start out the process with a hand
mixer, and then finish the process by hand with a heavy mixing spoon and the
previously mentioned "elbow grease". Never burnt out a hand mixer motor in
many years of cookie making.
TammyM
Dimitri
"Nancy2" <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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N.
What do you use when you don't want to get out the KA?
Rod Speed
> On Aug 4, 11:27?pm, Kathleen <khhfmdeletet...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>>> Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> writes:
>>
>>>> You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
>>>> for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
>>
>>> I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
>>> perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
>>> what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
>>> hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>>
>> point of fact, I don't have room for my hand mixture, either. ?It's
>> kept downstairs, pretty much right where I'd keep a stand-up mixer.
>> stand-up unit.
>
>
> Then you really need both... for the vast majority of mixing a hand
> mixer surffices just fine, and is far easier to clean and store. I
> don't even have a stand mixer anymore... for the teensy quantity of
> dough a 5-6 quart KA can handle I'd rather by hand. The *only*
> reasonS anyone needs a KA sized stand mixer at home is if they are
> handicapped or a kitchen snob.
Or they do a hell of a lot more dough than you do and arent stupid enough to do that by hand.
Michael Black
Yes, you're right.
My point wasn't in fast stirring, but that the initial ingredients
are really easy to stir while once you add the flour it can get
stiff. Whenever I make gingerbread cookies, I basically stop
adding flour when I'm tired of mixing it all.
That said, I've never made chocolate chip cookies by hand. Always
with a mixer. I had a Mixmaster forever, and I never removed the
mixing part from the stand to use it as a hand mixer. There was no
need. I never damaged that Mixmaster.
For a decade I've made a lot of chocolate chip cookies, sometimes in
very close together batches (making ten batches right after the other)
and have never burned out a mixer. The fact that I have a Kitchenaid
now is merely because it was a gift.
I did burn out the elements in the oven one year, both went within
a few weeks of each other, but that was merely because the elements
were old at that point.
Michael
Terry Pulliam Burd
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>I'm an old fashioned girl. I just make cookies with a bowl and large
>mixing spoon with a little elbow grease behind it. I never seemed to
>need a mixer? Is this something you might be able to try doing?
I could not make the DH's favorite cookies without my KA stand mixer.
The trick to making them is to beat the hell out of 'em (recipe says 5
mins., I prefer to double that - makes for beautiful, lacey cookies
that taste just like pecan pie):
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Harris Ranch Pecan Drops
cookies
2 1/2 cups brown sugar
3/4 teaspoon salt
3/4 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 1/2 pounds coarsely chopped
pecan pieces
1/2 cup egg whites; 3 - 4 large eggs
1. Heat the oven to 350°F degrees. In the bowl of an electric mixer,
combine the brown sugar, salt, vanilla and pecan pieces. Beat on low
speed to incorporate the ingredients, then drizzle in the egg whites.
Increase the speed to medium-low and beat for 4 to 5 minutes, scraping
down the sides of the bowl as needed.
2. Drop the dough in rounded tablespoons onto a greased baking sheet.
Press each ball of dough with the back of a spoon to form a cookie 3
1/2 inches in diameter and about one-eighth-inch thick.
3. Bake 10 to 12 minutes, until the edges are lightly browned. Remove
from oven and immediately remove the cookies from the baking sheet to
a cooling rack. The cookies will be soft but will firm up as they
cool.
Yield: 3 dozen cookies
Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
-- Duncan Hines
To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
jmcquown
> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> >
> > I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
> > too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. Granted,
> > perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
> > what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
> > hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>
>
> The only reasons I'd be tempted to use a standup mixer or other
> electronic help would be:
>
>
> if I were making an especially large batch as though making them
> commercially
>
> if I had arthritis or other medical condition which made using my arm
> in that way difficult.
>
My thoughts exactly. It's literally been a couple of decades since I made a
batch of cookies but I never used a mixer to do it. Even with arthritis
(mildly annoying, not severe which I'm sure would make a difference) I don't
recall cookie dough taking that long to stir together.
Jill
Wayne Boatwright
Lazy me would not want to "beat butter and sugar together until light and
fluffy" by hand, which many cookie recipes call for as a first step. Then,
beating eggs into that mixture. After that, most things are stirred in.
Easier with a hand mixer; easier still with a stand mixer, which frees you
up for working with other ingredients whilst it's running on its own.
Having said that, I know that making cookie dough does *require* a mixer.
--
Wayne Boatwright
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Jean B.
> My thoughts exactly. It's literally been a couple of decades since I
> made a batch of cookies but I never used a mixer to do it. Even with
> arthritis (mildly annoying, not severe which I'm sure would make a
> difference) I don't recall cookie dough taking that long to stir together.
>
> Jill
And the recipes usually tell you to mix by hand, esp. at the end.
--
Jean B.
Sheldon
Providing it's not a very stiff dough at best a KA stand mixer can
handle dough for two 2 lb loaves. How much dough do you think can be
kneaded in a 5-6 quart bowl... if you can't knead dough for two loaves
you must have some really dainty hands... you gotta build up your
wrists... you must have a very small peepee. Here, knead THIS!
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
Nancy2
>
> - Show quoted text -
I suppose it's useless to remind you that some people have arthritis
which limits their wrist action, or they might have other joint or
muscle problems.
N.
Nancy2
> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
>
>
> > You need a mixer with dough hooks for making cookies,
> > Or get a kitchen aid.
>
> > --
> > Old Scoundrel
>
> > (AKA Dimitri)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Oh, poppycock and balderdash. You don't need dough hooks to make
> cookie dough. Where did that idea come from? You use the KA paddle
> beater for cookie dough. Dough hooks are for kneading bread dough.
>
> N.
>
> What do you use when you don't want to get out the KA?
>
> --
> Old Scoundrel
>
> (AKA Dimitri)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
My KA is always out - covered in a KA black cover to match the side of
the fridge, which is where it sits in the corner of the
countertop. ;-)
I used to have it on a pull-out shelf right below the top of the
counter, but I like it where it is now better. It's pretty heavy to
lift up and put back on a regular basis. Plus, I hardly have anything
on my countertops, so it doesn't add any clutter, really. Well,
except now, I have a 4-gallon crock sitting on the counter because I'm
making sweet pickles....
(Send me an e-mail, Dim ....)
N.
Sheldon
> Sheldon wrote:
> >"Rod Speed" wrote:
> > > Sheldon wrote:
> > > > Kathleen wrote:
> > > >> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
> > > >>>> You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
> > > >>>> for the purpose. ?Cookie dough is way too thick
> > > >>>> for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
>
> > > >>> I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
> > > >>> too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. ?Granted,
> > > >>> perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
> > > >>> what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
> > > >>> hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>
> > > >> I really don't have room for a stand-up mixer in my kitchen. ?But, in
> > > >> point of fact, I don't have room for my hand mixture, either. ?It's
> > > >> kept downstairs, pretty much right where I'd keep a stand-up mixer.
> > > >> ?So, when this latest one finally dies I'll replace it with a
> > > >> stand-up unit.
>
>
>
> > > > Then you really need both... for the vast majority of mixing
> > > > a hand mixer surffices just fine, and is far easier to clean
> > > > and store. I don't even have a stand mixer anymore... for the > > > > teensy quantity of dough a 5-6 quart KA can handle I'd rather
> > > > by hand. The *only* reasonS anyone needs a KA sized stand
~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Or they do a hell of a lot more dough than you do and arent stupid enough to do that by hand.
>
> > Providing it's not a very stiff dough at best a KA stand mixer can
> > handle dough for two 2 lb loaves. �How much dough do you think can be
> > kneaded in a 5-6 quart bowl... if you can't knead dough for two loaves
> > you must have some really dainty hands... you gotta build up your
> > wrists... you must have a very small peepee. Here, knead THIS!
> >
> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .-
> I suppose it's useless to remind you that some people have arthritis
> which limits their wrist action, or they might have other joint or
> muscle problems.
I suppose it's useless to remind you to learn how to use a dictionary
so you can look up the word "handicapped"... and while you're at it
look up "irritating twat".
Rod Speed
> On Aug 5, 3:34?pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Aug 4, 11:27?pm, Kathleen <khhfmdeletet...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>>>>> Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> writes:
>>
>>>>>> You're doomed as long as you use the wrong tool
>>>>>> for the purpose. ?Cookie dough is way too thick
>>>>>> for mixing with a handheld electric mixer.
>>
>>>>> I suppose I should have been clear that when the dough gets
>>>>> too thick for the hand mixer, we switch to a spoon. ?Granted,
>>>>> perhaps we are not switching soon enough, and perhaps that is
>>>>> what is causing our mixers to die a premature death, but I was
>>>>> hoping that perhaps there is a better answer than that...
>>
>>>> I really don't have room for a stand-up mixer in my kitchen. ?But,
>>>> in point of fact, I don't have room for my hand mixture, either.
>>>> ?It's kept downstairs, pretty much right where I'd keep a stand-up
>>>> mixer. ?So, when this latest one finally dies I'll replace it with
>>>> a stand-up unit.
>>
>>> Then you really need both... for the vast majority of mixing a hand
>>> don't even have a stand mixer anymore... for the teensy quantity of
>>> reasonS anyone needs a KA sized stand mixer at home is if they are
>>> handicapped or a kitchen snob.
>>
>> Or they do a hell of a lot more dough than you do and arent stupid
>> enough to do that by hand.
> Providing it's not a very stiff dough at best a KA stand mixer can
> handle dough for two 2 lb loaves. How much dough do you think can be
> kneaded in a 5-6 quart bowl... if you can't knead dough for two loaves
> you must have some really dainty hands... you gotta build up your
> wrists... you must have a very small peepee. Here, knead THIS!
I wasnt talking about how much dough you do at once, child.
cybercat
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6ful3qF...@mid.individual.net...
lol
Kind of wearing out the "child" thing, aren't we hoss? Shake it up a little,
there are other terms that you can use to try to look condescending. From
way down there. Son.
:)
Sheldon
>>
> I wasnt talking about how much dough you do at once, child.
Figures someone with a two inch fuse like yours would be wanting to do
a child, you sicko douchebag.
Rod Speed
Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote just what you'd
expect from a desperately cowering gutless fuckwit child.
Sheldon
> Some gutless fuckwit child desperately cowering behind
> expect from a desperately cowering gutless fuckwit child.
Wow, gutless fuckwit... I'm shivering.
Do you know you stink like an old unwashed repeatedly fucked twat...
just like your smegma mouthed momma! <G>
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
blake murphy
i thought for a moment we had met sheldon's elusive dad. of course, i
don't blame him for being elusive.
your pal,
blake
Henrik Jarolf
This is because they had primarily metal construction, compared to this modern cheap plastic plague, that only breaks.
Nothing beats German quality, like the handmixer ABC-MIX.
You can see it working hard on YT channel Miss Mixy.
It can take anything. It's unbreakable.
https://www.deutsches-kunststoff-museum.de/sammlung/virtuelles-museum/k-2009-00257/
Henrik Jarolf
> j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) wrote in
> >
> > At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
> > (like, e.g.,
> > http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=handmixers
> > always comes a time when the blades stop spinning and wisps of
> > smoke come drifting out of the motor, along with the awful
> > smell of a motor that shell spin its blades no more.
> >
> > Having once again smelled the smoke of hand-mixer doom, we are
> > once again in the market for a new one, and so I thought I'd
> > post and ask: is there a mixer on the market that won't give
> > up the ghost after a few years (and if so where can we get
> > it), or are we doomed to continue contributing to the
> > ever-growing global waste disposal problem as long as we want
> > to keep making chocolate chip cookies?
> >
> > getting it fixed costs more than buying a new mixer.)
> >
> > (Yes, a real stand mixer would almost certainly solve this
> > problem, but we wouldn't use one often enough to justify the
> > expense, and besides, we don't have space for one in our
> > kitchen.)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
> I have a late Sunbeam mixer. It's still going..
> after many cookies. :-) Circa late '60's or Very early '70's.
> Harvest gold.
Exactly. As I said. Vintage power.
Modern products are plastic plague. Avoid.
Also, buy always 2nd hand used, then you don't contribute to the electronic waste en masse.
I found a GERMAN (quality!) handmixer vintage ABC-MIX that stands unbelievable abuse. Tested it myself.
jmcquown
> On Tuesday, 5 August 2008 at 04:21:28 UTC+3, sandi wrote:
>> j...@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) wrote in
>> news:g77kpf$2bm$1...@jik3.kamens.brookline.ma.us:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> At our house, we seem to go through an electric hand mixer
>>> (like, e.g.,>
> Modern products are plastic plague. Avoid.
> Also, buy always 2nd hand used, then you don't contribute to the electronic waste en masse.
> I found a GERMAN (quality!) handmixer vintage ABC-MIX that stands unbelievable abuse. Tested it myself.
named bowser?
Jill
Henrik Jarolf
dsi1
I'm glad that the Kitchenaid site knows the proper name for shave ice. Around here if you say "shaved ice", you're a tourist. If you say "shave ice", you're a local. If you say "ice shave", you're from Hilo Hawaii.
https://www.kitchenaid.com/countertop-appliances/stand-mixers/accessories/p.shave-ice-attachment.ksmsia.html?
GM
;-D
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GM