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All-Clad users....Do you like the handles?

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Sheryl Rosen

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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I have one All-Clad pan. A beautiful grille pan and I like it a lot. It does a
great job on steaks, chicken and burgers.

But I don't like the handle.

Because I have small hands and am not very strong, I tend to grip the handles
of my pans near the body of the pan. It's more balanced like that for me and I
feel like I have a more secure hold on it. It's the LTD line, so it's a rather
heavy pan, even empty.

But the All-Clad handle is wide at the back, where most people hold it, and it
narrows into a v shape closer to the body. I understand it's designed this way
to be cooler to the touch. My other metal handled pans (admittedly, lesser pans
than this all-clad one!!!) have handles that are pretty much the same thickness
all the way down.(or at least, not so severe a difference). I noticed
Calphalon's handles are uncomfortable, too.

I'm happy with the pan's performance, but I doubt I'd get another single handle
pan of theirs again, because of the handle. It's just not comfortable.

Am I the only one who doesn't like the handle? I'm not COMPLAINING, per se.
It's not gonna make me hate the pan, but I'm glad it's a pan I use maybe 3-4
times a month vs. a regular 10 inch skillet I might use every day. I just
wanna know if perhaps others feel the same way I do. If enough of us do, then
it's worth letting them know--maybe they could change the design eventually.

I can't imagine that narrow handle would be good for people with arthritis!


Sheryl
Not a newbie. Just new to AOL.

PENMART10

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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In article <20000331202103...@ng-fn1.aol.com>, catma...@aol.com
(Sheryl Rosen) writes:

All single handled pans are inherently poorly balanced; they only have one
handle. As capacity increases so will the difficulty in handling, regardless
of pan style or manufacturer. Most folks will find lifting a filled,
single-handled sauce pot difficult, once past the 3 quart size, regardless who
makes it.

But generally, those grill pans (the ones with the raised ridges) are not moved
about very much... they sorta just sit there while the meat is flayed about,
occasionally. Then the handle would be used primarily for steadying, not
lifting. When the meat is done it's moved onto a plate; there's no real need
to bring the pan to the plate, I don't think, in fact I don't recommend that,
think that's dangerous. I don't understand the importance of a grill pan
handle needing to be exeptionally ergonomically comfortable, as long as it fits
your hand and has no sharp edges. Maybe using a heavy-duty pot holder would
enable you to more easily choke up on the handle, so as to increase the
diameter for comfort, increase your leverage moment by shifting the fulcrum
point and so you won't get burned while doing so.


Sheldon
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"I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out."


Jean B.

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>
> I have one All-Clad pan. A beautiful grille pan and I like it a lot. It does a
> great job on steaks, chicken and burgers.
>
> But I don't like the handle.

Sheryl,

Don't like the handle (I'm also petite, have we discovered
something here?); also don't like the lids--but I guess
they aren't a problem with a grille pan....

Jean B.

Webfoot

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Apr 2, 2000, 4:00:00 AM4/2/00
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Strange I have a full set of All-Clad that I use all the time. Only
the stock pot handles get hot which is to be expected. The other pan
are rather nice and never get hot. I imagine if you chocke up on the
handel to much they will get hot. Next time I cook I'll have to see
how far up the heat traveles up the handel.
>
> I've noticed that they heat up rather quickly. Being one used
>to bakelite handles on my old RevereWare, I burned my hands a lot
>until I got used to the All-Clad and started using a towel or a
>potholder to deal with them......
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott W. Binder
>Arcata, Humboldt County, CA
>ICQ #108536
>http://www.northcoast.com/~scottb
>For my Personal Recipe Archive,
>ftp://208.25.189.9
>


PENMART10

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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On 2 Apr 2000 21:46:15 -0500, Webfoot <web...@ducklake.org> wrote:
>
>Strange I have a full set of All-Clad that I use all the time. Only
>the stock pot handles get hot which is to be expected.

Why should hot handles be expected with a stock pot? The handles on my
voluptuous PIAZZA stock pots don't get hot. PIAZZA incorporates a uneek
patented design which insulates the handles from the pot body, but then those
on the All-Clad are teensy, old fashioned, micky mouse pot handles, and it's
not even a real stock pot, it's shape is all wrong, they're passing off a stew
pot in it's stead. And you paid more than twice as much for half as much
pot... just so you can bandy about a name... ahahahaha!

Alan Z.

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Sheryl,

I like the handles on the All-Clad cookware very much.
And I too have small hands.
You know what they say about us men with small hands.... don't you?
"We wear small gloves" <vbg>

>
> Because I have small hands and am not very strong...."


Sheryl Rosen

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Oh, Alan, Alan, Alan, Alan...what am I gonna do with you?

(shaking my head and laughing)

Sheryl Rosen

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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>
>On 2 Apr 2000 21:46:15 -0500, Webfoot <web...@ducklake.org> wrote:
>
>>Strange I have a full set of All-Clad that I use all the time. Only
>>the stock pot handles get hot which is to be expected. The other pan
>>are rather nice and never get hot. I imagine if you chocke up on the
>>handel to much they will get hot. Next time I cook I'll have to see
>>how far up the heat traveles up the handel.
>>>
>
> Yes, that is the way I usually handle the pans, choked up on
>the handle with an overhand grip, like one would hold a pizza peel.
>Yes, the back half of the handles don't heat up as much, but that
>isn't much help with a full pot of whatever :)

>
>Regards,
>
>Scott W. Binder
>Arcata,

You guys, I appreciate your replies and opinions, but I never said I didn't
like the handles because they got hot.

Hot I can deal with, that's what pot holders are for. It's completely
reasonable to expect the handles of pans that are on a hot burner to get HOT.
That's not the issue. A $2 potholder from Wal-Mart will fix a hot handle,
whether it's an All-clad or a $3 pan from the same Wal-mart.

My issue is COMFORT.

They are flat out uncomfortable, unless you hold them right at the back, where
it's widest. If you choke up at all, you're grasping something that's not only
narrow but an odd shape. And because they are so heavy, you HAVE to choke up,
unless you're a weightlifter. I'm not.

It's NOT about heat.

I'm glad I have a grille pan, which does't require a lot of handling. But I'll
tell ya, I won't buy another skillet of theirs. I picked up a 10 inch skillet
at the store yesterday, and I didn't find it comfortable at all. It's still
heavy enough to necessitate choking up on the handle.

Just wanted to clarify--it's not the heat, it's the comfort!

Robin Nelson

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:38:57 -0800, Scott B. <sco...@northcoast.com>
wrote:


> I've noticed that they heat up rather quickly. Being one used
>to bakelite handles on my old RevereWare, I burned my hands a lot
>until I got used to the All-Clad and started using a towel or a
>potholder to deal with them......
>

>Regards,
>
>Scott W. Binder


>Arcata, Humboldt County, CA
>ICQ #108536
>http://www.northcoast.com/~scottb
>For my Personal Recipe Archive,
>ftp://208.25.189.9
>

Mind that you're not using excessive heat with the All-Clad grill pan.
I rarely go much over medium -- it's such a good conductor -- and
still get great marking and desired doneness on most stuff. And, the
handle never heats up more than the first 3 inches or so.

tagger

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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In article <q9bges4d691431s7f...@4ax.com>,

web...@ducklake.org wrote:
> Strange I have a full set of All-Clad that I use all the time. Only
> the stock pot handles get hot which is to be expected. The other pan
> are rather nice and never get hot. I imagine if you chocke up on the
> handel to much they will get hot. Next time I cook I'll have to see
> how far up the heat traveles up the handel.
> >
> > I've noticed that they heat up rather quickly. Being one used
> >to bakelite handles on my old RevereWare, I burned my hands a lot
> >until I got used to the All-Clad and started using a towel or a
> >potholder to deal with them......
> >
> >Regards,
> >
...which brings me to ask if anyone knows about those colored handle
covers you see on the cooking shows...seems as though a lot of
commercial kitchens use them.

> >Scott W. Binder
> >Arcata, Humboldt County, CA
> >ICQ #108536
> >http://www.northcoast.com/~scottb
> >For my Personal Recipe Archive,
> >ftp://208.25.189.9
> >
>
>

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josh mathews

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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a little note,.....


You should always pick up a pan with a towel, regardless if you know it's
hot or not. It's a training thing when you work in a kitchen. You get so
used to grabbing things in a hurry not knowing if handles are hot or not, so
getting into a habit of touching everything with a towel prevents you from
getting burned......at least by hot cookware!!

You can also get gel handles for some pans which are nice but not a solution
to the problem of hot handles, I still use towels with the handgrips on
it......it's just more safe.

Josh

Sheryl Rosen

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Apr 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/7/00
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For the third time.....

It's not about HOT handles.

You use a pot holder or a towel and the heat is NOT an issue.

IT'S ABOUT COMFORT.

The shape makes them uncomfortable to hold, in my opinion.

FYI, I always use a pot holder. My problem is that even with a potholder, the
handle shape is NOT comfortable. It's not too hot to hold. It's too
uncomfortable to hold.

Am I alone here??????

Jeff Cook

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> FYI, I always use a pot holder. My problem is that even with a potholder, the
> handle shape is NOT comfortable. It's not too hot to hold. It's too
> uncomfortable to hold.
>
> Am I alone here??????


I agree, it's a weird design. I convinced myself the handles are shaped
that way to disperse the heat better (greater surface area), and that
I'm glad they didn't listen to the person who suggested they have them
scoop down instead of up. It would be much more annoying to me if it was
hollow on the bottom instead.

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je...@cookstudios.com
http://www.cookstudios.com
Washington DC area

Jeff Cook

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Jeff Cook wrote:
> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> > FYI, I always use a pot holder. My problem is that even with a potholder, the
> > handle shape is NOT comfortable. It's not too hot to hold. It's too
> > uncomfortable to hold.
>
> I agree, it's a weird design. I convinced myself the handles are shaped
> that way to disperse the heat better (greater surface area), and that
> I'm glad they didn't listen to the person who suggested they have them
> scoop down instead of up. It would be much more annoying to me if it was
> hollow on the bottom instead.


Sorry, if you're talking about the U-shaped handle on the pot inself
(rather than the long handle), yes, several people, including myself
have mentioned how frustrating they are. They're not really grips...more
like tabs, and I wish they were larger.

Harry A. Demidavicius

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:58:43 -0400, Jeff Cook <je...@cookstudios.com>
wrote:

Errrm ... and you pay premium price for this privilege?
Sounds Smart ....
Harry Demidavicius

Webfoot

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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I think I am beginning to understand here. The handle is not
comfortable to the grip, it could be because of the heat <just
kidding> I have to admit that when I wash my pans I hold them close
to the body of the pan rather out on the handle. It does get
uncomfortable especially on the third pan, my hand hurts. But I do
love the look and performance of All-Clad

Russ Mack


>
>For the third time.....
>
>It's not about HOT handles.
>
>You use a pot holder or a towel and the heat is NOT an issue.
>
>IT'S ABOUT COMFORT.
>
>The shape makes them uncomfortable to hold, in my opinion.
>

>FYI, I always use a pot holder. My problem is that even with a potholder, the
>handle shape is NOT comfortable. It's not too hot to hold. It's too
>uncomfortable to hold.
>

Jeff Cook

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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"Harry A. Demidavicius" wrote:
> >Sorry, if you're talking about the U-shaped handle on the pot inself
> >(rather than the long handle), yes, several people, including myself
> >have mentioned how frustrating they are. They're not really grips...more
> >like tabs, and I wish they were larger.
> Errrm ... and you pay premium price for this privilege?
> Sounds Smart ....
> Harry Demidavicius


There is such a thing as learning the value of a design, nimrod. Or no,
just make snap judgements and blather them to thousands. Sounds smart.

Price

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Why did you call him a hunter...? There is such a thing as learning the
value of a definition, rather than blather it to thousands and sound
ignorant...

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Price Courtright
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