Thanksgiving food: mac & cheese?
Terry
at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
Best -- Terry
--Bryan
Do they make it from the blue box?
>
> Best -- Terry
--Bryan
George Shirley
The way I look at it Thanksgiving is all about comfort food. If your
comfort food is mac and cheese then, by all means, have mac and cheese.
I love cornbread dressing as my wife makes it and don't care for greens
with bacon, you might like one or the other. What difference does it
make to anyone else what you or I like in food?
Melba's Jammin'
Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
My only comment is that if that's what you grew up eating at
Thanksgiving dinner, that's what you're likely to want and/or serve at
your own table. And my sense of it is that it may be a regional thing,
too. While I haven't eaten at any non-family Thanksgiving meals, I know
of no one up here who serves mac and cheese.
<shoulder shrug>
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Who Said Chickens Have Fingers?
10-30-2009
Bob Terwilliger
Cornbread dressing is *much* better known on Thanksgiving. Greens with bacon
is a year-round thing; I'm not aware of any place which traditionally eats
it only on Thanksgiving.
I've lived in Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia in the southern USA, but
I never heard of mac&cheese as a "traditional" Thanksgiving dish until
recently. A friend of mine attended Thanksgiving at the house of her
boyfriend's family in Louisiana. Afterward, she made somewhat-horrified
remarks regarding the mac&cheese, the canned gravy, and the mirliton faux
corn dogs. (She had grown up in Seattle, so this was not *her* tradition by
any stretch of the imagination!)
Mind you, *I* don't see anything wrong with the idea of mac&cheese on
Thanksgiving, and if it fit in with the rest of the menu I'd be perfectly
willing to serve it, but my opinion is not typical because I actively avoid
following tradition most of the time.
Bob
Andy
news:00bfbcae$0$6692$c3e...@news.astraweb.com:
M&C for Thanksgiving is permissible if and only if it contains a grain or
two of nutmeg. ;)
Andy
Stu
wrote:
-->Terry wrote:
-->> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
-->> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
-->> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
-->> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
-->>
-->> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
-->> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
-->> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
-->>
-->> Best -- Terry
-->
-->The way I look at it Thanksgiving is all about comfort food. If your
-->comfort food is mac and cheese then, by all means, have mac and cheese.
-->I love cornbread dressing as my wife makes it and don't care for greens
-->with bacon, you might like one or the other. What difference does it
-->make to anyone else what you or I like in food?
For gods sake George don't say that in here or too loud or the dogs will have
at ye ;-)
Virginia Tadrzynski
"Terry" <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com...
As with the other posters, I agree that it is a regional thing. Having
grown up in the wilds of NC, I know of people who have mac&cheese for
thanksgiving....although it is NEVAH out of the box....same people can't
imagine having people over without potato salad as well to go along with the
mashed potatoes and gravy. I think the only thing universally accepted
about Thanksgiving is the cranberries (sauced or whole). I never grew up
with stuffing at home, I make my mother-in-laws sausage stuffing. I know
people in the Low Country of SC and New Englanders that swear by oyster
stuffing......whereas I, on the other hand, could never conscience stuffing
'boogers up a bird's butt'...
-ginny
Stu
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
-->Terry wrote:
-->
-->> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
-->> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
-->> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
-->> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
-->>
-->> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
-->> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
-->> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
-->
-->Cornbread dressing is *much* better known on Thanksgiving. Greens with bacon
-->is a year-round thing; I'm not aware of any place which traditionally eats
-->it only on Thanksgiving.
-->
-->I've lived in Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia in the southern USA, but
-->I never heard of mac&cheese as a "traditional" Thanksgiving dish until
-->recently. A friend of mine attended Thanksgiving at the house of her
-->boyfriend's family in Louisiana. Afterward, she made somewhat-horrified
-->remarks regarding the mac&cheese, the canned gravy, and the mirliton faux
-->corn dogs. (She had grown up in Seattle, so this was not *her* tradition by
-->any stretch of the imagination!)
-->
-->Mind you, *I* don't see anything wrong with the idea of mac&cheese on
-->Thanksgiving, and if it fit in with the rest of the menu I'd be perfectly
-->willing to serve it, but my opinion is not typical because I actively avoid
-->following tradition most of the time.
-->
-->Bob
Everyones commenting about what's right or wrong to serve at thanksgiving, and
are totaly missing the reason the holiday exists in the first place which seems
to have gotten lost.
Thanksgiving in the US
Thanksgiving is thus widely perceived as a time for family. An opportunity to
reunite with loved ones, friends, and relations we haven�t seen for years. It�s
some time off work, a break from school, the chance for an extended romantic
weekend, and more importantly, an opportunity to eat copious amounts of food
without feeling too guilty!
The First Thanksgiving was celebrated to give thanks to God for helping the
pilgrims survive the brutal winter. The first Thanksgiving feast lasted three
whole days providing enough food for 53 pilgrims and 90 Indians. The
traditional Thanksgiving menu often features turkey, stuffing, sweet potatoes
and pumpkin pie. Americans may eat these foods on modern day Thanksgiving, but
the first feast did not consist of these items. On the first feast turkey was
any type of fowl that the pilgrims hunted. Pumpkin pie wasn't on the menu
because there were no ovens for baking, but they did have boiled pumpkin.
Cranberries weren't introduced at this time. Due to the diminishing supply of
flour there was no bread of any kind. The foods included in the first feast
included duck, geese, venison, fish, lobster, clams, swan, berries, dried
fruit, pumpkin, squash, and many more vegetables.
Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving Day, presently celebrated on the fourth Thursday
in November, has been an annual tradition in the United States since 1863. It
did not become a federal holiday until 1941. Thanksgiving was historically a
religious observation to give thanks to God.
Thanksgiving in Canada
As in the US, thanksgiving is widely perceived as a time for family. An
opportunity to reunite with loved ones, friends, and relations we haven�t seen
for years. It�s some time off work, a break from school, and an opportunity to
eat copious amounts of food without feeling too guilty!
The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an explorer, Martin
Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Pacific Ocean.
Frobisher's Thanksgiving was not for harvest but homecoming. He had safely
returned from a search for the Northwest Passage, avoiding the later fate of
Henry Hudson and Sir John Franklin. In the year 1578, he held a formal
ceremony, in what is now the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, to give
thanks for surviving the long journey. The feast was one of the first
Thanksgiving celebrations by Europeans in North America. Frobisher was later
knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after
him � Frobisher Bay.
Starting in 1879 Thanksgiving Day was observed every year, but the date was
proclaimed annually and changed year to year. The theme of the Thanksgiving
holiday also changed each year to reflect an important event to be thankful
for. In its early years it was for an abundant harvest and occasionally for a
special anniversary.
ra...@vt.edu
> "Terry" <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com...
> > After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> > at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> > mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> > as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
> As with the other posters, I agree that it is a regional thing. Having
> grown up in the wilds of NC, I know of people who have mac&cheese for
> thanksgiving....although it is NEVAH out of the box....same people can't
<snip>
> people in the Low Country of SC and New Englanders that swear by oyster
> stuffing......whereas I, on the other hand, could never conscience stuffing
> 'boogers up a bird's butt'...
My family always had an oyster casserole, which I never liked, that everyone
else claimed was wonderful. That, and scalloped potatoes. I haven't had
those 2 dishes at Thanksgiving since I quit going back to Pennsylvania and
started staying home. I'm thinking about doing the scalloped potatoes this
year, but my wife really likes mashed, and I don't really want 2 different
potato dishes considering all the other starches that will be on hand.
I need to remember to take that turkey out to defrost this evening . . .
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
blake murphy
>
> Thanksgiving in the US
>
> Thanksgiving is thus widely perceived as a time for family. An opportunity to
> reunite with loved ones, friends, and relations we haven�t seen for years. It�s
> some time off work, a break from school, the chance for an extended romantic
> weekend, and more importantly, an opportunity to eat copious amounts of food
> without feeling too guilty!
>
i thought it was to carbo-load and rest up for the black friday shopping
marathon.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
> In article <i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com>,
> Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
>> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
>> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
>> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>>
>> Best -- Terry
>
> My only comment is that if that's what you grew up eating at
> Thanksgiving dinner, that's what you're likely to want and/or serve at
> your own table. And my sense of it is that it may be a regional thing,
> too. While I haven't eaten at any non-family Thanksgiving meals, I know
> of no one up here who serves mac and cheese.
> <shoulder shrug>
even if you called it hotdish?
your pal,
blake
Stu
wrote:
-->On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:09:09 -0600, Stu wrote:
-->>
-->> Thanksgiving in the US
-->>
-->> Thanksgiving is thus widely perceived as a time for family. An opportunity
to
-->> reunite with loved ones, friends, and relations we haven�t seen for years.
It�s
-->> some time off work, a break from school, the chance for an extended
romantic
-->> weekend, and more importantly, an opportunity to eat copious amounts of
food
-->> without feeling too guilty!
-->>
-->
-->i thought it was to carbo-load and rest up for the black friday shopping
-->marathon.
-->
-->your pal,
-->blake
that too ;-)
cybercat
<ra...@vt.edu> wrote
> My family always had an oyster casserole, which I never liked, that
> everyone
> else claimed was wonderful. That, and scalloped potatoes.
I love oyster casserole! I'm with you on the potatoes, though.
Nancy2
> Thanksgiving in the US
>
>
This is a brooklyn1 post - I had to look to see who really posted
it ;-)
N.
Nancy2
> started staying home. I'm thinking about doing the scalloped potatoes this
> year, but my wife really likes mashed, and I don't really want 2 different
> potato dishes considering all the other starches that will be on hand.
>
> I need to remember to take that turkey out to defrost this evening . . .
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.
Sweet potatoes are usually part of T'giving - why not mash them?
N.
Jean B.
I have never encountered this in my family!
--
Jean B.
Lynn from Fargo
I think Wayne would back me up on this one. In many places in the
South, macaroni and cheese (never from a box) is a side dish that can
be served with almost any meal. If you are ever lucky enough to eat
in one of those wonderful cafeterias in the South, or the down-home
restaurants that feature what they call "meat and threes" (meat & 3s
are where you walk up to the counter or the waitress comes to you with
a hand written list of sides or recites them for you.
You pick your meat from a couple of choices (frequently fried chicken,
fried pork chops, meatloaf etc ) then you choose your sides (green
beans, corn, okra, sweet, mashed or scalloped potatoes, mirlitons
(pattypan squash casserole) or one of dozens of other possible
vegetables. You will probably find mac & cheese. In the South, it's
a vegetable.
Lynn in too far north Fargo
must have been a Southern cook in a previous life!
Stu
wrote:
-->
-->> Thanksgiving in the US
-->>
-->>
-->
-->This is a brooklyn1 post - I had to look to see who really posted
-->it ;-)
-->
-->N.
Nancy, I cannot tell a lie, I posted it...and it was factual.
Nancy Young
I remember Thanksgiving meals at the homes of Italians years
ago. The first course was lasagna. Imagine having turkey dinner
after a starter plate of lasagna? Yikes. Anyway, it's not
completely unfamiliar to me to have a macaroni type of dish
with the T-day meal.
nancy
Dave Bugg
It's part of the "soul-food" tradition for many families thoughout the south
during holidays and Sunday dinner. As you noted, it is one of many side
dishes, and many of the recipes I've tasted are simple and delicious.
Now your going to tell us you've never eaten a slaw dog. :-)
--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan
Goomba
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> Best -- Terry
I agree. Mac & Cheese, salads, deviled eggs are all picnic or average
day foods to me and not special enough for a Thanksgiving meal to me.
But then again, my grandmother was known to do a turkey as well as
lasagna on Thanksgiving, LOL.
George Shirley
> Terry wrote:
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
>> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
>> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
>> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> It's part of the "soul-food" tradition for many families thoughout the south
> during holidays and Sunday dinner. As you noted, it is one of many side
> dishes, and many of the recipes I've tasted are simple and delicious.
>
> Now your going to tell us you've never eaten a slaw dog. :-)
Anyone who eats slaw on a hot dog is a heretic and should be remanded to
the inquisition. Hot dogs are only eaten with chili, no kraut, no slaw,
no ketchup. Amen!
Ranee at Arabian Knits
I've never heard of it as a Thanksgiving dish. I think of it as you
do. If we hadn't spent time in Tulsa, I'd never have even known it was
eaten as a side dish. We eat it as a main dish with salad or veggie
sticks and fruit. Sometimes with vegetables cooked in with it.
Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits
"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
Dave Bugg
Go ahead, rat me out to Torquemada; I'll at least die happy :-)
"No one EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition!"
Virginia Tadrzynski
"Lynn from Fargo" <lynn...@i29.net> wrote in message
news:e3bbd0af-4879-4d3a...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
In my post earlier, I stated I remembered Mac&cheese being served at
T'giving in certain homes. I'm originally from NC.
-ginny
Virginia Tadrzynski
"Dave Bugg" <dave...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hamburgers and Hot Dogs.....All The Way (chili, cole slaw , onions and
yellow mustard)....is there any other way?
-ginny
Tara
Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. I'm thinking we have it for
Easter dinner, too.
When I cook holiday dinners, I don't make macaroni and cheese. I do
enjoy it, but it's not a must have for me. It is a must have for her
adult children, along with her chicken and dumplings.
Tara
Gregory Morrow
> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
I've been spending T-day with a buncha folks who are about half African -
American, the boo - fay table *groans* with numerous side dishes of mac 'n
cheese that they provide. It's just plain outta-the-box stuff, nothing
fancy, not even garnished. These are folks who are all professionals, they
have plenty of money, maybe it's a black or just a southern cultural thing,
who knows...I've noticed some southern whites have the same propensity for
plain mac 'n cheeze, too...
T-day to me is special, therefore mac 'n cheese is not something I'd choose
to offer. I *do* love the stuff, though, and it's easy to make a great
home - made version...
--
Best
Greg
Gregory Morrow
Mac 'n cheeze is not considered a "hotdish" in the upper Midwest, blake...
--
Best
Greg
Gregory Morrow
Last year I made a sweet potato stir - fry, it was a hit...saw the recipe in
the _New York Times_ IIRC...
Had julienned strips of sweet potato, red bell pepper, red onion, garlic...a
tish of sesame oil for flavoring, garnished with toasted pecans...
--
Best
Greg
Melba's Jammin'
blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
Macaroni and cheese is not hotdish, you goof!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Who Said Chickens Have Fingers?
10-30-2009
Melba's Jammin'
George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> with bacon, you might like one or the other. What difference does it
> make to anyone else what you or I like in food?
I didn't get a sense that it makes any particular difference, only that
he's curious about the notion. :-0)
Omelet
> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> Best -- Terry
We have never once served mac and cheese with t-day as a side.
Never have heard of it being "traditional" either. Where did you get
this silly idea?
--
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Christine Dabney
wrote:
>In article <i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com>,
> Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
>> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
>> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
>> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>>
>> Best -- Terry
>
>We have never once served mac and cheese with t-day as a side.
>Never have heard of it being "traditional" either. Where did you get
>this silly idea?
In the South, mac and cheese is often listed in as a vegetable.
Really.
Christine
--
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com
Omelet
Christine Dabney <arti...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
<snork> I can believe it...
Bob Terwilliger
> I remember Thanksgiving meals at the homes of Italians years
> ago. The first course was lasagna. Imagine having turkey dinner
> after a starter plate of lasagna? Yikes. Anyway, it's not completely
> unfamiliar to me to have a macaroni type of dish with the T-day meal.
When I was thinking about Thanksgiving a couple years ago I put together a
quasi-Italian Thanksgiving menu. Maybe I'll actually make it some year -- if
I ever need to cook Thanksgiving dinner for twelve people!
Fennel Salad
Butternut Squash Lasagna
Parmesan-Prosciutto Mashed Potatoes
Ciabatta Dressing with Chestnuts and Pancetta
Turkey Breast roasted with citrus and herbs
Turkey Legs braised with garlic and red wine; mushrooms with butter garnish
Pseudo-Italian Cranberry Dipping Sauce (recipe below)
Rapini with Olive Oil, Garlic, Red Pepper Flakes, Raisins, and Pine Nuts
Corn and Peppers with Fried Sage Leaves
Onion Pudding with Balsamic Syrup
Tiramisu with Caramelized Figs
Sweet-Potato Custard with Ginger Ice Cream
Panna Cotta with Raspberry-Red Wine Sauce
Almond Cookie Sandwiches with Saffron-Cardamom Ice Cream
Pseudo-Italian Cranberry Dipping Sauce
1 sprig rosemary
1 pound cranberries
2 cups orange juice
2 tablespoons honey
Zest from 1 orange
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt
2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper
2 tablespoons granulated sugar
3 cups ginger ale
Strip leaves from rosemary sprig and chop them.
Combine all ingredients in a non-reactive saucepan and bring to a boil.
Reduce heat and simmer, stirring occasionally, for 30 to 45 minutes or until
liquid is reduced by half. Fish out rosemary stem.
Carefully puree with an immersion blender or blender until smooth. Check for
seasoning and serve in small ramekins.
Bob
projektile...@yahoo.com
wrote:
>
> > even if you called it hotdish?
>
> Mac 'n cheeze is not considered a "hotdish" in the upper Midwest, blake...
Unless one adds lutefisk. Ja shore hoop dee doo!
Melba's Jammin'
<1a93be12-7f29-44b0...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
projektile...@yahoo.com wrote:
Excuse me?! That's "Yah, shure! You betcha!" Ask Sven and Ole.
Stu
-->On Nov 20, 5:04�pm, "Gregory Morrow" <gregorymor...@earthlink.net>
-->wrote:
-->>
-->> > even if you called it hotdish?
-->>
-->> Mac 'n cheeze is not considered a "hotdish" in the upper Midwest, blake...
-->
-->Unless one adds lutefisk. Ja shore hoop dee doo!
Friend of mine is Norwegian, and they make it all the time
* Exported from MasterCook *
Lutefisk
Servings : 6
Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 kilograms (6 pounds) lutefisk
3 tablespoons salt
600 grams (1 1/3 pounds) good potatoes
200 grams (7 ounces) bacon, sliced.
coarse ground pepper
Accompaniment:
Green peas stew (4 persons)
3 dl (1 1/4 cups) whole, dry green peas water
1 dl (1/3 cup) milk
1 tablespoon wheat
1 teaspoon salt
Cook the lutefisk without water in an oven.
Warm the oven to 200 degrees.
Lay the fish on a plate with the skinside down. Sprinkle over with salt. Cover
with aluminum foil. Put it into the oven for about 40 minutes. Less fish needs
less time.
3.Dice the bacon and fry on low heat so the fat melts and the dices get crispy.
Green peas stew:
Make a thickener out of the milk and wheat flour. Mix into the stew and let it
boil for 5-6 minutes. Add salt to taste. You can also buy a peastewing, read
the instructions on the package.
Putting it all together
Serve the lutefisk warm on warm dishes with green peastew, cooked potatoes,
bacon fat and crispy bacon dices. #Place coarse salt, freshly ground pepper and
mustard on the table.
Variations : You can also serve with flatbread and lefse. People even serve
melted goat cheese.
jmcquown
news:i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com...
> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> Best -- Terry
It's strange, I know. And I won't be serviing it as a side dish. My mother
(and me after her) made it as a main dish. That was dinner. But it shows
up on restaurant menus as a "side", often listed as part of the "vegetables"
(which really made no sense).
If you want to make it as a side dish, go ahead. If not, don't. That's
about all I have to say about it.'
Jill
Nancy Young
> "Terry" <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still
>> puzzled at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of
>> having mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as
>> ubiquitous as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
> It's strange, I know. And I won't be serviing it as a side dish. My
> mother (and me after her) made it as a main dish. That was dinner.
> But it shows up on restaurant menus as a "side", often listed as part
> of the "vegetables" (which really made no sense).
They are saying "vegetables" when they really mean "other than
meat" is how I think of it.
> If you want to make it as a side dish, go ahead. If not, don't.
> That's about all I have to say about it.'
I never heard of people having macaroni and cheese as a side dish
until this newsgroup, some time in the past. It was always a
main dish when I was growing up, too.
nancy
blake murphy
> In article <m25762wfcv6e$.8uyjgx14eur8$.d...@40tude.net>,
> blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:38:54 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> My only comment is that if that's what you grew up eating at
>>> Thanksgiving dinner, that's what you're likely to want and/or serve at
>>> your own table. And my sense of it is that it may be a regional thing,
>>> too. While I haven't eaten at any non-family Thanksgiving meals, I know
>>> of no one up here who serves mac and cheese.
>>> <shoulder shrug>
>>
>> even if you called it hotdish?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Macaroni and cheese is not hotdish, you goof!
well, no. but if you served sufficient cocktails beforehand, maybe you
could get away with it.
your pal,
blake
projektile...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> In article
> <1a93be12-7f29-44b0-924a-655cf03e9...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> projektilevomitch...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Nov 20, 5:04 pm, "Gregory Morrow" <gregorymor...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > even if you called it hotdish?
>
> > > Mac 'n cheeze is not considered a "hotdish" in the upper Midwest, blake...
>
> > Unless one adds lutefisk. Ja shore hoop dee doo!
>
> Excuse me?! That's "Yah, shure! You betcha!" Ask Sven and Ole.
LOL! My Norwegian grandparents would be ashamed of my poor display!
Goomba
> I never heard of people having macaroni and cheese as a side dish
> until this newsgroup, some time in the past. It was always a
> main dish when I was growing up, too.
> nancy
And served with salad as a meatless meal, or just a cheap main dish with
the addition of diced ham and veggies. But never was it a side dish in
my home either.
Gregory Morrow
That's nothing, you should see the cybertwot's "display"...she's got a
prolapsed uterus that she has to drag about...
--
Best
Greg
Arri London
Terry wrote:
>
> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> Best -- Terry
Never been offered it at a Thanksgiving meal. Have been offered it as a
side dish at other meals in various parts of the US. It is a main dish
for us.
Jinx Minx
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-9361A...@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article <i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com>,
> Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
>> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
>> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
>> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>>
>> Best -- Terry
>
> We have never once served mac and cheese with t-day as a side.
> Never have heard of it being "traditional" either. Where did you get
> this silly idea?
> --
> Peace! Om
>
It's not a silly idea if it's relevant to your cultural upbringing. It's a
traditional soul food dish, right along with that cornbread and greens.
It's not traditionally served in my family at Thanksgiving, but I'd
certainly welcome it. It's a starch with dairy -- no more different or less
special than au gratin or scalloped potatoes which are frequently served as
traditional holiday side dishes (depending on the holiday) in my extended
family.
As an aside, I have to say that the very best macaroni and cheese I've ever
had didn't come from a fancy restaurant or recipe with a bazillion different
types of cheese (nor was it Velveeta). It was a southern, soul food family
recipe.
I used to work at a clinic that had a significant population of employees
with strong
southern roots. It was sacrilege to have a potluck without macaroni and
cheese.
Jinx
sf
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> never heard of people having macaroni and cheese as a side dish
>until this newsgroup, some time in the past. It was always a
>main dish when I was growing up, too.
That was probably me. I always serve it as a side dish, never as a
main dish.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
jmcquown
news:87reg5tg4s7psv530...@4ax.com...
But it's a side dish listed along with the vegetables :) So is rice.
Neither are vegetables. I believe serving it as a side dish is an ethnic
variation.
Jill
blake murphy
it's a pretty common side with baked ham.
your pal,
blake
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
I think most americans make it a as a one pot meal.
Instead of the Italian way as part of a meal.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
sf
I like to serve macaroni and cheese with pork chops. It's never a
main dish and I'm not even remotely Italian.
Omelet
sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >>>I never heard of people having macaroni and cheese as a side dish
> >>>until this newsgroup, some time in the past. It was always a
> >>>main dish when I was growing up, too.
> >>>
> >>>nancy
> >>
> >>
> >> it's a pretty common side with baked ham.
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> >I think most americans make it a as a one pot meal.
> >
> >Instead of the Italian way as part of a meal.
>
> I like to serve macaroni and cheese with pork chops. It's never a
> main dish and I'm not even remotely Italian.
I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
Terry
wrote:
>In article <i32dg5pjg819b4l6f...@4ax.com>,
> Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
>> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
>> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
>> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>
>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>>
>> Best -- Terry
>
>We have never once served mac and cheese with t-day as a side.
>Never have heard of it being "traditional" either. Where did you get
>this silly idea?
From polling my students (60-140 per class). I often give an
extra-credit "quiz" on the Monday before Thanksgiving; sort of a
reward for those who show up that day. The quiz bears a single
question: "In 5000 words or less, what are you having for
Thanksgiving dinner?" :-)
Usually a majority of the quizzes come back with "macaroni and cheese"
as one of the items. It seems more common than "dressing" though not
as common as "yams with marshmallows".
Since tomorrow is Monday... maybe I'll do another poll and post the
results. :-)
Terry
sf
wrote:
>I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
>The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
No catholics in your background either, huh?
Ranee at Arabian Knits
sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:43 -0600, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
> >The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
>
> No catholics in your background either, huh?
What? Perhaps I am overly obtuse, but I don't get this.
Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits
"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
sf
<arabia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <a6gjg5lt1buloo703...@4ax.com>,
> sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:43 -0600, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
>> >The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
>>
>> No catholics in your background either, huh?
>
> What? Perhaps I am overly obtuse, but I don't get this.
>
Remember meatless Fridays?
Nancy Young
> In article <a6gjg5lt1buloo703...@4ax.com>,
> sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:43 -0600, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
>>> The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
>>
>> No catholics in your background either, huh?
>
> What? Perhaps I am overly obtuse, but I don't get this.
There were no Catholics in my house, either, and we certainly
didn't have meatless Fridays.
nancy
Ranee at Arabian Knits
sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:20:57 -0800, Ranee at Arabian Knits
> <arabia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <a6gjg5lt1buloo703...@4ax.com>,
> > sf <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:43 -0600, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
> >> >The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
> >>
> >> No catholics in your background either, huh?
> >
> > What? Perhaps I am overly obtuse, but I don't get this.
> >
> Remember meatless Fridays?
Ah! We still do that. Wednesdays, too. I didn't get the connection
to mac and cheese, though we do sometimes have that for those meals.
Goomba
>>> I've always served it as a side dish too, and so did mom.
>>> The exception is when it's being eaten as leftovers as a snack. ;-d
>> No catholics in your background either, huh?
>
> What? Perhaps I am overly obtuse, but I don't get this.
>
Meatless Fridays and days before feast days
golfstar2006
'Terry[_3_ Wrote:
> ;1406251']After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still
> puzzled
> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> Best -- Terry
I've never had mac n cheese for Thanksgiving, but I wouldn't
disapprove. Family tradition is what the holidays is all about. You
probably would want to make one from scratch though, rather than use
the blue box from the grocery store method.
..typically mac and cheese from scratch recipes start by making a
bechamel sauce, which is a dairy product (milk or cream or combination)
thickened with a roux, then cheeses are stirred in, then it's mixed with
cooked macaroni and topped with bread crumbs in a casserole, then
baked.
Speaking of interesting/unusual Thanksgiving sides, about 10 years ago
I discovered a spicy butternut squash soup that is absolutely
phenomenal. I've made it every year since then, and everyone loves
it.
-cheers.
--
golfstar2006
Virginia Tadrzynski
do, Terry, it would be an answer to this debate.
-ginny
Virginia Tadrzynski
"sf" <sf.u...@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:v8dhg5lhge64gb01r...@4ax.com...
M&C was never a main dish, but a side....but then again, I am born -n- bred
South'rn.
-ginny
Goomba
> M&C was never a main dish, but a side....but then again, I am born -n- bred
> South'rn.
> -ginny
>
Scalloped potatoes with ham is another dish that can be a main dish, but
others might only think of it as a side dish.
Steve Pope
>Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>> M&C was never a main dish, but a side....but then again,
>> I am born -n- bred South'rn.
>Scalloped potatoes with ham is another dish that can be a main dish, but
>others might only think of it as a side dish.
I work by a "primi-secondi" paradigm. If dinner involves both
a primi and secondi, then I would serve a starch course (primi) first
followed by a main course (secondi). In this case mac and cheese
(or baked ziti, or penne pecorino, etc.) is a very suitable primi.
But not all dinners follow that sequence, in which case the mac and
cheese, or any other pasta dish for that matter, might very well be the
main course. In such a case, I would try to in clude a side dish
that adds to protein completion (since even whole-wheat macaroni/pasta
is unbalanced). Typically I'd address this by including garbanzo
beans in a green salad, or something similar.
(What I'm not wired for is doing mac-and-cheese as a total side;
if it is in a course, it is the main item in that course, although
that might not be the main course.)
Steve
sf
<golfstar2006....@foodbanter.com> wrote:
>Speaking of interesting/unusual Thanksgiving sides, about 10 years ago
>I discovered a spicy butternut squash soup that is absolutely
>phenomenal. I've made it every year since then, and everyone loves
>it.
Are you going to post the recipe?
TIA
Ran�e at Arabian Knits
Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote:
I think of scalloped potatoes as a side dish. If ham is added, it
becomes a main dish.
Bob Muncie
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still
>>> puzzled at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of
>>> having mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as
>>> ubiquitous as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>>>
>>> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
>>> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
>>> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
>> mother (and me after her) made it as a main dish. That was dinner.
>> But it shows up on restaurant menus as a "side", often listed as part
>> of the "vegetables" (which really made no sense).
>
> They are saying "vegetables" when they really mean "other than
> meat" is how I think of it.
>> If you want to make it as a side dish, go ahead. If not, don't.
>> That's about all I have to say about it.'
>
> until this newsgroup, some time in the past. It was always a
> main dish when I was growing up, too.
Nancy -
I have always considered mac & cheese a comfort food. I also consider it
a casserole.
With that in mind, unless I added a meat (like ham), it is just a
casserole, and used as a side dish like any other high carb like
potatoes, or pasta.
I do occasionally have mac & cheese as an entree, but more often, it is
a side to pork chops, or some other entree.
I do think Tday is a day to have a large number of casseroles. That just
improves the event.
For the background, I was born in Kentucky, and raised in Indiana.
Bob
Cindy Hamilton
> Hamburgers and Hot Dogs.....All The Way (chili, cole slaw , onions and
> yellow mustard)....is there any other way?
> -ginny
Yuck. Just chopped onion on my dog (and lots of it, please).
Hamburgers require onion; tomato and lettuce are pleasant options.
And, to stay marginally on topic, I don't eat mac & cheese at all.
Cindy Hamilton
brooklyn1
wrote:
Yes, I can see scalloped potatoes as a side that goes with a ham,
fresh or smoked... but scalloped potatoes seasoned/laced with bits of
smoked ham is definitely a side. I suppose it depends on the ratio of
meat to potato... add enough meat then it can become a main dish. I
don't consider mac n' cheese a main dish unless it contains a slew of
tube steak. I've never seen mac n'cheese served for Thanksgiving...
I've known Italians who serve lasagna on Thanksgiving to accompany the
turkey, but then I've known Italians who serve lasagna as a dual
function main for every holiday meal. I don't think it qualifies as
an Italian holiday meal unless there's a second lasagna in the fridge.
Ya know, I've never seen real Italians serve mac n' cheese... in
Brooklyn mac n' cheese is known as Jewish lasagna.
Rusty
Oh -- Thanks so much for saying you don't eat mac & cheese.
I don't like it at all and have never made it for my family. To me it
is very bland and pasty. I don't get all the comfort food talk about it.
Maybe I have not had it made correctly. My daughter, who is a
gourmet cook and has loads of cookbooks by Julia Child to Bobby Flay and
Thomas Keller, made Lobster Mac & Cheese in individual ramekins for us.
It loved good, but I just ate the lobster pieces.
On Thanksgiving foods - I'm originally from Massachusetts where the
Thanksgiving table was filled with lots of veg. dishes like creamed
onions, mashed turnip, mashed butternut squash, corn, green beans, sweet
potatoes, mashed potatoes along with the turkey, stuffing and cranberry
sauce. Dessert was always pumpkin and mincemeat pie. I still like to
have the traditional vegetables but not as many different ones and must
make a mincemeat pie and now it's a pumpkin cheesecake along with the
apple pie. When we moved to MD and my daughter married a boy from
Baltimore, I discovered it was traditional, or mandatory, to have
sauerkraut with the Thanksgiving turkey. That just didn't seem right to
me. Does anyone know of that tradition or have sauerkraut with turkey?
It is interesting to note the different regional foods for the holiday.
What do you people in the South, Midwest, Southwest and Pacific West
serve for the big day? Happy Thanksgiving to all. Rusty in MD
Goomba
> On Thanksgiving foods - I'm originally from Massachusetts where the
> Thanksgiving table was filled with lots of veg. dishes like creamed
> onions, mashed turnip, mashed butternut squash, corn, green beans, sweet
> potatoes, mashed potatoes along with the turkey, stuffing and cranberry
> sauce. Dessert was always pumpkin and mincemeat pie. I still like to
> have the traditional vegetables but not as many different ones and must
> make a mincemeat pie and now it's a pumpkin cheesecake along with the
> apple pie.
These are most of the foods I equate with Thanksgiving also.
Traditionally English style, much as I picture the Pilgrims eating.
> When we moved to MD and my daughter married a boy from
> Baltimore, I discovered it was traditional, or mandatory, to have
> sauerkraut with the Thanksgiving turkey. That just didn't seem right to
> me. Does anyone know of that tradition or have sauerkraut with turkey?
German or Polish communities probably? It certainly doesn't get served
at my home at TG.
Food Snob®
> I still like to have the traditional vegetables but not as many different ones and must
> make a mincemeat pie
But mincemeat is made out of mice. At least the Klondike brand is.
--Bryan
Info
wrote:
-->On Nov 23, 3:27�pm, Rusty <larust...@yahoo.com> wrote:
-->
-->> �I still like to have the traditional vegetables but not as many
different ones and must
-->> make a mincemeat pie
-->
-->But mincemeat is made out of mice. At least the Klondike brand is.
-->
-->--Bryan
that's micemeat not mincemeat, different taste altogether
Food Snob®
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:16:14 -0800 (PST), Food Snob® <bryangsimm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> -->On Nov 23, 3:27 pm, Rusty <larust...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> -->
> -->> I still like to have the traditional vegetables but not as many
> different ones and must
> -->> make a mincemeat pie
> -->
> -->But mincemeat is made out of mice. At least the Klondike brand is.
> -->
> -->--Bryan
>
> that's micemeat not mincemeat, different taste altogether
I have it on good authority that just as "Soylent Green is people,"
mincemeat is mice:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_Kat
--Bryan
Lynn from Fargo
> It is interesting to note the different regional foods for the holiday.
> What do you people in the South, Midwest, Southwest and Pacific West
> serve for the big day? Happy Thanksgiving to all. Rusty in MD
In "Norda-sota" (Fargo ND/Moorhead MN) there will be lefse on many
many tables. A number of those tables will not have a Norski within
hollerin' distance. You can buy at least four brands in my
supermarket: Carl's, Freddie's, Mrs. Olson's and Hornbacher's (the
store brand). Some people will eat it with butter, some with butter
and sugar. A few wierdos use other condiments - salsa, peanut butter,
jam . . . the true believers will make their own, frequently in family
"lefse baking teams". Sheets and sheets and sheets of it - enough to
freeze for Christmas.
I buy it - usually "Freddies" (on sale) or Carl's (if I'm feeling
rich)
Lynn in Fargo
PS: Forgot to say that you can buy at least three brands all year
long.
Lynn from Fargo
Rusty,
Does your daughter make "Maryland Fried Chicken"? - fried on top of
the stove but then smothered in cream gravy. That stuff is wicked
good!
Lynn in Fargo
Food Snob®
> Dave Bugg wrote:
> > Terry wrote:
> >> After living in Parts Unknown, KY for 20-odd years, I am still puzzled
> >> at the tradition (which seems to extend beyond Kentucky) of having
> >> mac&cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving. Seems to be as ubiquitous
> >> as cornbread dressing and greens cooked with bacon.
>
> >> Me, I consider mac&cheese to be an everyday dinner dish. In our home
> >> we make it about every other week. Anyone out there who'd like to
> >> comment on mac&cheese and Thanksgiving?
>
> > during holidays and Sunday dinner. As you noted, it is one of many side
> > dishes, and many of the recipes I've tasted are simple and delicious.
>
> > Now your going to tell us you've never eaten a slaw dog. :-)
>
> Anyone who eats slaw on a hot dog is a heretic and should be remanded to
> the inquisition. Hot dogs are only eaten with chili,
If at all.
> no kraut, no slaw,
> no ketchup. Amen!
Some have suggested that King David became impotent after seeing and
old woman eating coleslaw.
--Bryan
Rusty
> Rusty,
> Does your daughter make "Maryland Fried Chicken"? - fried on top of
> the stove but then smothered in cream gravy. That stuff is wicked
> good!
> Lynn in Fargo
No - she doesn't do Fried Chicken, but her hubby does make it the
Maryland way occasionally. Usually they put chicken breasts on the grill
every Sunday and have it on salads during the week for lunch. Healthy
lunch, they say. She's a health nut. Nothing wrong with that.
Rusty from MD
Steve Pope
>No - she doesn't do Fried Chicken, but her hubby does make it the
>Maryland way occasionally. Usually they put chicken breasts on the grill
>every Sunday and have it on salads during the week for lunch. Healthy
>lunch, they say. She's a health nut. Nothing wrong with that.
Other than that chicken is no healthier than any other form
of meat/fish/fowl one might consume. If it's factory chicken, it's
arguably less healthy than most.
Steve
Cindy Hamilton
> It is interesting to note the different regional foods for the holiday.
> What do you people in the South, Midwest, Southwest and Pacific West
> serve for the big day? Happy Thanksgiving to all. Rusty in MD
I'm Midwestern born and bred; my husband was born in New Jersey and
emigrated to Cincinnati when he was 11.
Well, with just the two of us we only do the basics: turkey,
dressing,
gravy, mashed potatoes (because my husband expects them), and
a tossed salad (every shotgun shell needs wadding), cranberry-orange
relish (probably utilized as dessert).
I recall his family also had creamed onions, and maybe boiled green
beans. Dinner rolls, which always seemed like overkill to me.
We always had mashed rutabaga because my mother liked it, and
an assortment of pickles (including those bright-red apple rings).
I never ate vegetables when I was a kid, so if we had any I didn't
pay attention. The dreaded candied sweet potatoes (with marshmallows,
of course). Store-bought pumpkin pie.
My first husband's family always had two or three cooked vegetables,
and sliced ripe tomatoes. I think they had some deal with
someone from Kentucky or someplace that still had ripe tomatoes
in November.
Cindy Hamilton
Ran�e at Arabian Knits
<1eefc092-7946-45e8...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:27�pm, Rusty <larust...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It is interesting to note the different regional foods for the holiday.
> > What do you people in the South, Midwest, Southwest and Pacific West
> > serve for the big day? �Happy Thanksgiving to all. � � Rusty in MD
>
> I'm Midwestern born and bred; my husband was born in New Jersey and
> emigrated to Cincinnati when he was 11.
Both my husband and I grew up in Oregon, but Rich has midwestern
heritage from his maternal side and German heritage from his paternal
(his great grandparents were German from Germany, who emigrated). Since
I am a first generation American, of Saudi background, my ideas of
traditional are a bit skewed.
Rich's folks smoked their turkey which was delicious, but you never
got really good gravy from it, so I roast ours. They also made bread
stuffing, which I grew up with as well, but Rich doesn't care for it, so
I make a smaller amount of a bread/cornbread dressing (cornbread alone
is too crumbly for me, but I like the flavor with the bread) and a
larger amount of wild rice dressing. My goal is to cram as many
American foods into one meal as possible: turkey, potatoes, squash,
corn, peppers, wild rice, cranberries, etc. None of us likes the
candied sweet potatoes, so I include them in our rolls.
My menu for the day with many recipes is posted on my blog:
<http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/2009/11/thanksgiving-menu-and-recipes.h
tml>
blake murphy
i hear unscrupulous vendors are substituting rat.
your pal,
blake
Nancy Young
brother and his family into their new house last night, and my
sil is insistent that Thanksgiving will be at their house. That's
just the beginning of the complications involved here, but dang
if she won't have that place whipped into shape by Thursday.
I called to see what I could bring and I was told that one of
their friends will be there and what are they bringing?
Yup. Macaroni and cheese.
nancy
Ranee at Arabian Knits
Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Since tomorrow is Monday... maybe I'll do another poll and post the
> results. :-)
Did you poll them?
Terry
Yep, it wasn't as prevalent as I thought but fully a third of the
class (about 30 of 90 students) said that mac & cheese was a
traditional side dish at their Thanksgiving.
Sweet tea was the overwhelming favorite drink, though some students
did admit (down here in the shiny brass buckle of the bible belt!)
that they had wine or beer.
Terry
George Leppla
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:10:14 -0800, Ranee at Arabian Knits
> <arabia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <e79jg5lpnaj0da1c2...@4ax.com>,
>> Terry <prfe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Since tomorrow is Monday... maybe I'll do another poll and post the
>>> results. :-)
>> Did you poll them?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ranee @ Arabian Knits
>>
>> "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
>>
>> http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
>
> Yep, it wasn't as prevalent as I thought but fully a third of the
> class (about 30 of 90 students) said that mac & cheese was a
> traditional side dish at their Thanksgiving.
Macaroni and cheese... actually saw it as a side dish on a cruise line.
Asked the waiter and he said that it was always there on the
children's menu and so many adults were ordering it that they put it on
the main menu as a side dish or you could order it as a pasta course...
or a main course.
I tried it and it was very good... not your run of the mill boxed Kraft mix.
Of course, one cruise line had been known for years as having the best
Bread Pudding. I always found that to be funny because to me, bread
pudding was a dish made out of crusts and stale bread by poor people,
and the line that touts theirs is a more upscale line.
George L
sf
<geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Of course, one cruise line had been known for years as having the best
>Bread Pudding. I always found that to be funny because to me, bread
>pudding was a dish made out of crusts and stale bread by poor people,
>and the line that touts theirs is a more upscale line.
I can answer that. I love bread pudding. I didn't grow up with bread
pudding and have no preconception of it as poor people's food, so I
order it every chance I get!
FYI: Upscale restaurants also have bread pudding on the menu, so it
makes sense for the cruise line to have it on theirs too.
George Leppla
Well, since you like it, here is the Holland America Cruise Line recipe
for bread pudding:
http://www.yum-recipes.com/Recipe/Dutch/130096_Holland_America_Bread_Pudding.html
When Carnival Corp bought HAL a few years ago, this dish started showing
up on other cruise lines owned by Carnival (Princess, Carnival, Costa,
etc)
When I was a kid, we ate bread pudding because it was cheap to make.
Back then, going on a ship was only for "rich people" so I find it
ironic that the "rich" were oohing and aahing over something that we had
often.
I still love it, but with this gluten intolerance, haven't had it in a
while.
George
Goomba
> When Carnival Corp bought HAL a few years ago, this dish started showing
> up on other cruise lines owned by Carnival (Princess, Carnival, Costa, etc)
Dang! I didn't know Carnival owned HAL. You could've slapped me over
with that news.
>
> When I was a kid, we ate bread pudding because it was cheap to make.
> Back then, going on a ship was only for "rich people" so I find it
> ironic that the "rich" were oohing and aahing over something that we had
> often.
We went out to a wondeful Indian restaurant last night and for dessert I
ordered kheer. I think they just use the leftover basmati rice to make
that lovely, creamy sweet rice pudding.
>
> I still love it, but with this gluten intolerance, haven't had it in a
> while.
>
I'd rather suffer whatever repercussions you get when eating gluten than
going without something. I can't imagine it. Ouch.
sf
<geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:11:30 -0600, George Leppla
>> <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Of course, one cruise line had been known for years as having the best
>>> Bread Pudding. I always found that to be funny because to me, bread
>>> pudding was a dish made out of crusts and stale bread by poor people,
>>> and the line that touts theirs is a more upscale line.
>>
>> I can answer that. I love bread pudding. I didn't grow up with bread
>> pudding and have no preconception of it as poor people's food, so I
>> order it every chance I get!
>>
>> FYI: Upscale restaurants also have bread pudding on the menu, so it
>> makes sense for the cruise line to have it on theirs too.
>>
>
>Well, since you like it, here is the Holland America Cruise Line recipe
>for bread pudding:
>
>http://www.yum-recipes.com/Recipe/Dutch/130096_Holland_America_Bread_Pudding.html
>
>When Carnival Corp bought HAL a few years ago, this dish started showing
>up on other cruise lines owned by Carnival (Princess, Carnival, Costa,
>etc)
:) thanks! You can never have too few bread pudding recipes.
>
>When I was a kid, we ate bread pudding because it was cheap to make.
>Back then, going on a ship was only for "rich people" so I find it
>ironic that the "rich" were oohing and aahing over something that we had
>often.
>
>I still love it, but with this gluten intolerance, haven't had it in a
>while.
>
Unfortunately, the current bread pudding maker in the family just
found out in September that she has a gluten intolerance - so the
bread puddings have stopped here too. She's finding that she can
sneak some gluten in every now and then, but she's still playing
around with how much and how often.
George Leppla
>
>
>> When Carnival Corp bought HAL a few years ago, this dish started
>> showing up on other cruise lines owned by Carnival (Princess,
>> Carnival, Costa, etc)
>
> Dang! I didn't know Carnival owned HAL. You could've slapped me over
> with that news.
They own HAL, Cunard (yes, Cunard!), Princess, Costa, Seabourn and of
course, Carnival. And some others in Europe... P&O, Aida, etc.
> We went out to a wondeful Indian restaurant last night and for dessert I
> ordered kheer. I think they just use the leftover basmati rice to make
> that lovely, creamy sweet rice pudding.
Now rice pudding is something I can have and I love it. Again, had it a
lot when I was a kid... it was cheap to make.
George L
George Leppla
> Unfortunately, the current bread pudding maker in the family just
> found out in September that she has a gluten intolerance - so the
> bread puddings have stopped here too. She's finding that she can
> sneak some gluten in every now and then, but she's still playing
> around with how much and how often.
Me too. I've found a 7 grain bread that i can tolerate for toast and
the occasional fried egg sandwich for breakfast. But I sorely miss
going out for pizza But I'm not too bummed about it. There are still
lots of things I can eat and I'm gald for that. Besides, if I
absolutely have to, I can cheat once in a while but I've been pretty
good here lately.
George L
blake murphy
whereat is that again, terry?
your pal,
blake
Terry
Very very western KY (Murray).
It was not until 2000 that the town was dragged, kicking and
screaming, into the 20th century. A law allowing restaurants to serve
alcohol (IF the restaurant seats at least 100 and gets 70% of revenues
from food) was passed that year.
blake murphy
o.k., thanks.
your pal,
blake